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Postby S2M » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:15 am

I'm gonna add a few...

1. Mike Vick (shocking)
2. Plaxico Burress
3. Ben the Rapist
4. Albert Haynesworth
5. Jay Cutler
6. Chad Johnson
7. Vince Young
8. Carson Palmer
9. Tony Romo
10. Jeremy Shockey
11. John Elway(wouldn't play for the team that drafted him)
12. Eli Manning ( same as Elway, only worse because he thinks he is entitled due to his brother and father)
13. Cam the Scam Newton ( definitely guilty of Pay to Play)
14. ANY NFL player who knows who Mark Gastineau is
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:31 am

Enigma869 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7204075/michael-vick-philadelphia-eagles-reportedly-most-disliked-nfl-player-poll


Top ten most disliked players in the NFL

1. Mike Vick (shocking)
2. Plaxico Burress
3. Ben the Rapist
4. Albert Haynesworth
5. Jay Cutler
6. Chad Johnson
7. Vince Young
8. Carson Palmer
9. Tony Romo
10. Jeremy Shockey


How doesn't Mark Sanchez make that list? Mr.GQ? Mr. I actually got convicted of rape? I think Sanchez should be in the top 5 without a doubt. Romo at #9? I'd put Romo #1. No way Plax should be #2. Ben is hated because of his allegations but it's so ironic you don't hear a fucking thing about Mark Sanchez's case where he actually did rape a girl, was actually convicted & arrested and paid the girl off to sweep it under the rug. No mention of that. No mention of Green Bay Packers (Clay Matthews and his cronies) years ago where those women accused them of rape as well. Oh the media. I agree with Cutler and Johnson but Romo being that low and Sanchez not even being on that list makes that list not worthy.
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Postby AlteredDNA » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:08 am

Not defending Sanchez, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't convicted. I don't even think charges were filed, due to "lack of evidence"...
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:21 am

AlteredDNA wrote:Not defending Sanchez, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't convicted. I don't even think charges were filed, due to "lack of evidence"...


That's true, my bad on that. I thought he was convicted but he was actually arrested for that matter. Ben was never even arrested in those cases. Like I said, even his GQ shit and Roethlisberger getting a bad rap on his allegations and Sanchez being from the spotlight of N.Y (and a program at USC with multiple run-ins with the law), it shocks me he isn't top 3-5.
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Postby S2M » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:38 am

Fat Albert has been released....anyone surprised?
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Postby YoungJRNY » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:40 am

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Postby Yoda » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:51 am

S2M wrote:Fat Albert has been released....anyone surprised?


WOW!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE SO STUPID TO GIVE..............

yeah I'm just surprised it lasted this long! :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:51 am

Oakland versus San Diego - Two teams that are a complete mess with 5 straight losses between them, coming into this one. San Diego has "anonymous" players talking about how fat and useless Antonio Gates is, and Oakland has Carson Fucking Palmer. This game may end in a tie, but my money is on San Diego (I have zero confidence in either of these teams). Chargers by 7.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:04 am

Fact Finder wrote:Hey Travis, get your pick in.


Cincinnati 24, Pittsburgh 14. Hahahaha, I would laugh so hard I would cry that the Stealers would be out of the running for the North. Add to that, that piece of semen Carson Palmer wanted greener pastures? he is getting sacked and throwing picks for a very average team who won't make the playoffs.

Rapistburger better watch out for a helluva pass rush; maybe the best in the AFC
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:53 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Hey Travis, get your pick in.


Whoops, couldn't get it in tonight, didn't get in until a little bit ago. I'll take an out on this one, atleast that will put me and John with the same picks picked since Week 1 since he forgot to put his pick in on the first Thursday night.
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Postby Don » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:03 pm

Did Rivers get his head beat in tonight or what? No line help at all. He even looked like he tried a holy roller at the end there.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:22 pm

Don wrote:Did Rivers get his head beat in tonight or what? No line help at all. He even looked like he tried a holy roller at the end there.


It's been a pretty rough schedule for SD too, playin Monday-Sunday-Thursday. That team's gotta be banged up big time. Norv Turner's time has to come to an end. I used to think Rivers was underrated. I'm starting to think he's overrated, or at least rated right where he should be.
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Postby Rick » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:23 pm

Don wrote:Did Rivers get his head beat in tonight or what? No line help at all. He even looked like he tried a holy roller at the end there.


Sonofabitch! I forgot about the Thursday night game! :evil:
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Postby Don » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:33 pm

Rick wrote:
Don wrote:Did Rivers get his head beat in tonight or what? No line help at all. He even looked like he tried a holy roller at the end there.


Sonofabitch! I forgot about the Thursday night game! :evil:


I watched it online on a European ESPN feed.
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Postby Rick » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:57 pm

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Don wrote:Did Rivers get his head beat in tonight or what? No line help at all. He even looked like he tried a holy roller at the end there.


Sonofabitch! I forgot about the Thursday night game! :evil:


I watched it online on a European ESPN feed.


Is Oakland for real, or is San Diego just that bad?
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Postby squirt1 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:07 pm

I think the Bengals will beat Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is not the same and only God knows what happened to the Bengals. Anyway, the stadium will probably be 50-50 Pitt fans so it will be a rare homegame on TV. Will Peyton play this year or is it career ending?
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Postby Don » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:08 pm

Rick wrote:
Don wrote:
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Don wrote:Did Rivers get his head beat in tonight or what? No line help at all. He even looked like he tried a holy roller at the end there.


Sonofabitch! I forgot about the Thursday night game! :evil:


I watched it online on a European ESPN feed.


Is Oakland for real, or is San Diego just that bad?


San Diego is just that bad. Rivers got sacked six times and hit at least a dozen more. It wasn't like he was standing around either, dude was running for his life but had no where to go.

Palmer looked good on a few plays but had a few turnovers of his own also.
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Postby Rick » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:11 pm

Don wrote:
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Don wrote:
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Don wrote:Did Rivers get his head beat in tonight or what? No line help at all. He even looked like he tried a holy roller at the end there.


Sonofabitch! I forgot about the Thursday night game! :evil:


I watched it online on a European ESPN feed.


Is Oakland for real, or is San Diego just that bad?


San Diego is just that bad. Rivers got sacked six times and hit at least a dozen more. It wasn't like he was standing around either, dude was running for his life but had no where to go.

Palmer looked good on a few plays but had a few turnovers of his own also.


That's a shame. Rivers is a good QB. I'm still on the fence about Palmer.
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:22 pm

YoungJRNY wrote: that will put me and John with the same picks picked since Week 1 since he forgot to put his pick in on the first Thursday night.


No Sir. I didn't forget anything. I was at the hospital for the birth of my daughter who happened to be born on the same Thursday that the NFL season began on. My pick was Green Bay! :shock:
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Postby Enigma869 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:30 pm

squirt1 wrote:I think the Bengals will beat Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is not the same and only God knows what happened to the Bengals.


I wouldn't count on it. I don't think Pittsburgh is anything special at all. That said, the Bengals are about as battle tested as Pittsburgh is this season. They have a good record against bad teams. They've beat some really bad teams. They have exactly one win against a team with a winning record, and that was Buffalo...a team I've said all season wouldn't make the playoffs, so they're not that great of a team either. The AFC is more wide open this season than I can ever remember. There really are no great teams and a lot of teams that are lucky to win, week to week.

As for Peyton...you have a better chance of seeing Ben Roethlisberger working at a rape hotline than you have of seeing Peyton play this season. The Colts have Andrew Luck all wrapped up, and they would be dopes to jeopardize that. They are so bad, that the NFL finally canceled one of their prime time games (thank god for all of us...except me, as it's against the Patriots, so I'll be forced to watch anyway).
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:48 pm

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YoungJRNY wrote: that will put me and John with the same picks picked since Week 1 since he forgot to put his pick in on the first Thursday night.


No Sir. I didn't forget anything. I was at the hospital for the birth of my daughter who happened to be born on the same Thursday that the NFL season began on. My pick was Green Bay! :shock:


You may of had Green Bay but you didn't make the pick in here, thus, making it a vacant pick 8) Good thing for me though because I had S.D on my poll. They are just terrible. A team showing their ready to move on without Norv Turner, who plays the brand of football in such a conservative way that you can't help but think why S.D didn't get rid of him years ago. They are truly the Dallas Cowboys of the AFC. Talent out the ass who can't put a playoff contender on the field givin' their high hopes going into each season.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:51 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:
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YoungJRNY wrote: that will put me and John with the same picks picked since Week 1 since he forgot to put his pick in on the first Thursday night.


No Sir. I didn't forget anything. I was at the hospital for the birth of my daughter who happened to be born on the same Thursday that the NFL season began on. My pick was Green Bay! :shock:


You may of had Green Bay but you didn't make the pick in here, thus, making it a vacant pick 8) Good thing for me though because I had S.D on my poll. They are just terrible. A team showing their ready to move on without Norv Turner, who plays the brand of football in such a conservative way that you can't help but think why S.D didn't get rid of him years ago.


Ouch! That's tough. :lol:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:56 pm

Enigma869 wrote:
squirt1 wrote:I think the Bengals will beat Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is not the same and only God knows what happened to the Bengals.



As for Peyton...you have a better chance of seeing Ben Roethlisberger working at a rape hotline than you have of seeing Peyton play this season.


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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:02 am

Don wrote:Palmer looked good on a few plays but had a few turnovers of his own also.

Neither really his fault though. Felt pressure and rolled out, ball got knocked out during his windup.
He got hit as he released the ball on the INT. Pretty solid game with some great throws.

Hopefully he'll continue to improve through the rest of the season.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:04 am

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Don wrote:Palmer looked good on a few plays but had a few turnovers of his own also.

Neither really his fault though. Felt pressure and rolled out, ball got knocked out during his windup.
He got hit as he released the ball on the INT. Pretty solid game with some great throws.

Hopefully he'll continue to improve through the rest of the season.


I can't imagine having that pussy ass quitter on my team. Someone either here or on ProFootballtalk comments said it best: "Makes the throws to keep you in the game, then makes the throws that take you out of the game." Fuck Carson Palmer. His little stunt was only a bit less egregiously selfish than LeBron's "decision."
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:08 am

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Don wrote:Palmer looked good on a few plays but had a few turnovers of his own also.

Neither really his fault though. Felt pressure and rolled out, ball got knocked out during his windup.
He got hit as he released the ball on the INT. Pretty solid game with some great throws.

Hopefully he'll continue to improve through the rest of the season.


If anything, he didn't feel the pressure and that's what good QB's do. How many times do we see Manning or Brady take that little sidestep in the pocket and neglect pressure? Almost all the time. It's the QB's responsibility to sense the rush on either side of his awareness and obviously Palmer failed to sense it or else he would of caressed the football and took the sack since they were going in for a score. All that said though, I said it before that I think Palmer is a big step for Oakland. In my mind, he still has the tools to be a good NFL QB if managed correctly.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:10 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
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Don wrote:Palmer looked good on a few plays but had a few turnovers of his own also.

Neither really his fault though. Felt pressure and rolled out, ball got knocked out during his windup.
He got hit as he released the ball on the INT. Pretty solid game with some great throws.

Hopefully he'll continue to improve through the rest of the season.


I can't imagine having that pussy ass quitter on my team. Someone either here or on ProFootballtalk comments said it best: "Makes the throws to keep you in the game, then makes the throws that take you out of the game." Fuck Carson Palmer. His little stunt was only a bit less egregiously selfish than LeBron's "decision."


I thought from the beginning of his holdout, that he had done the right thing. He put in what 9-10 years with the Bengals. He lost the desire to play for them anymore, and asked to be traded. Why suit up and get beat to hell in a place you don't want to be?

Anyway, enjoy Cleveland and whoever is playing QB there.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:16 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Don wrote:Palmer looked good on a few plays but had a few turnovers of his own also.

Neither really his fault though. Felt pressure and rolled out, ball got knocked out during his windup.
He got hit as he released the ball on the INT. Pretty solid game with some great throws.

Hopefully he'll continue to improve through the rest of the season.


I can't imagine having that pussy ass quitter on my team. Someone either here or on ProFootballtalk comments said it best: "Makes the throws to keep you in the game, then makes the throws that take you out of the game." Fuck Carson Palmer. His little stunt was only a bit less egregiously selfish than LeBron's "decision."


I thought from the beginning of his holdout, that he had done the right thing. He put in what 9-10 years with the Bengals. He lost the desire to play for them anymore, and asked to be traded. Why suit up and get beat to hell in a place you don't want to be?

Anyway, enjoy Cleveland and whoever is playing QB there.


Wasn't he still under contract? If so, he should've manned up and dealt with it instead of quitting.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:27 am

conversationpc wrote:
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Ehwmatt wrote:
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Don wrote:Palmer looked good on a few plays but had a few turnovers of his own also.

Neither really his fault though. Felt pressure and rolled out, ball got knocked out during his windup.
He got hit as he released the ball on the INT. Pretty solid game with some great throws.

Hopefully he'll continue to improve through the rest of the season.


I can't imagine having that pussy ass quitter on my team. Someone either here or on ProFootballtalk comments said it best: "Makes the throws to keep you in the game, then makes the throws that take you out of the game." Fuck Carson Palmer. His little stunt was only a bit less egregiously selfish than LeBron's "decision."


I thought from the beginning of his holdout, that he had done the right thing. He put in what 9-10 years with the Bengals. He lost the desire to play for them anymore, and asked to be traded. Why suit up and get beat to hell in a place you don't want to be?

Anyway, enjoy Cleveland and whoever is playing QB there.


Wasn't he still under contract? If so, he should've manned up and dealt with it instead of quitting.

Yeah, he was. But when you think about it, what difference would it have made?
Say he played out his contract and gotten tagged with the "franchise tag". Still stuck where he doesn't want to be.

Would it really be more honorable to suit up and collect a check when your heart isn't in it?
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:06 am

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Would it really be more honorable to suit up and collect a check when your heart isn't in it?


Yes! This isn't about honor. It's the dude's fucking job. Who gives a fuck whether he's happy or not. I would imagine that most people aren't happy with their job. It's called "work" for a reason. Having said all of that, Brown made the decision (and I think a great one for the Bengals...and another awful one for the Raiders) to trade Palmer, so now he is the Raiders problem. Palmer has been around for a decade, so I'm pretty sure most people know what he is at this point in time. The Raiders gave up FAR too much for a very average QB.
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