They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Monker]

1. He's not a politician, he doesn't care what other think and says exactly what's on his mind

He absolutely IS a politician. He says what he feels benefits him, even if it is a blatant lie. He campaigns for and against other politicians. He critiques the Democrat party while cheering for Republicans. He does everything a politician does.

2. He's a non comformist, he looks outside the box, looks at the rules and laws and looks at how to use them for the better good of his country (just like a good racer)

Trump does what is best for himself. He looks and rules and laws as things he can bend and even break as president. He does not think of the "good of 'his' country" but what is good for Donald Trump, and the Trump brand.

3. He doesn't follow history, he writes it.

By separating child and parent, putting them in internment camps and IGNORING the historic lesson of Japanese Americans from WWII. He writes history by his love affair with Kim and his best friend Putin, by wagging the dog by assassinating members of foreign governments, by getting impeached for abusing his power and ignoring the authority of congress.

4. You can call religion and values all you want.

The religious right, evangelical Republicans, whatever, are hypocrites. They have values morals that they only call out when it involves the other party. They call out Clinton for a blowjob but do nothing about Trump's affairs with porn stars and playmates. They are nothing but political tools who use their religion exclusively to attack the other party, modern day Pharisees.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I've been divorced twice. Neither driven by myself or driven by infidelity or wrong doing on my part. Does that not make me a "Christian"?

You obviously have no idea what makes somebody a "Christian"...or you are intentionally ignoring it.

The bottom line is anyone outside of the US is not going to like Trump.

Anybody who sees the full scope of who Trump is will not like him.

He's looking after the best interests of the USA

Asking Ukraine and China to interfere in our elections is not in the best interest of the USA. His actions at the border are not in the best interest of the USA. The crazy tariffs are not in the best interest of the USA. Cuddling with Kim and Putin are not in the best interest of the USA.

he's looking for defense deals that are fair without the USA paying to defend the entire world and laggard countries paying their fair share, and he's looking after the best interest of his citizens.

Bitching about NATO dues and the %5 GDP thing does NOT address this - at all. Those are budget items that keep the day to day operation of NATO happening. What you describe above come out of a COMPLETE DIFFERENT fund...by nations donating money and resources to a specific cause.

I am a citizen of the USA....not Donald Trump. I am not "his citizen". I find that comment insulting.

Best US economy ever

Not true. The economy under Clinton grew at a higher rate and was completely supported by corporate and public debt as this one is.

Lowest US unemployment rate ever (black, hispanic, asian, female, white aaaahhhhhhh etc. it's all the same, it's all good)

That depends on how you look at things. IMO, the reality is that it really has not changed THAT MUCH. The same type of complaints that were lobbed during the last election can be made today. That the number is off because of the large number of people who have simply given up looking for work.

Highest stock market achievements ever

Percentage of growth of the market under Obama was
Under Obama, the S&P 500 grew by 56.4%. The Dow Jones Industrials Average was up 50.6% and the Nasdaq, 92.9%.

Trump hasn't come close to those numbers.

Best trade deals we've had ever

Tariffs, not good.

The truth is you wished he was running your country.

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Why? Australia already has their version of Trump. Trump has even praised him for his immigration policies. The last guy was even more pathetic.

[Andrew]

And our deadshit PM is hated. Once again Murdoch media and a coal billionaire shaped the last election.

As for "everyone outside of the USA hating Trump", doesn't that suggest a greater awareness of Trumps buffoonery and bullshit by the international community?

[Aaron]

Or is it penis envy because you're leaders are just sucking up BS and not looking after the best interests of your people?

If he's doing the right thing for his people the rest of the world isn't going to like him. It's common sense. Just follow the money.

And our deadshit PM is hated. Once again Murdoch media and a coal billionaire shaped the last election.

As for "everyone outside of the USA hating Trump", doesn't that suggest a greater awareness of Trumps buffoonery and bullshit by the international community?

[Aaron]

Man I don't have your energy to go point to point but I respect your view. And I respect you not going after me personally with an opening. Much love and respect sir. You're welcome at my place anytime.

1. He's not a politician, he doesn't care what other think and says exactly what's on his mind

He absolutely IS a politician. He says what he feels benefits him, even if it is a blatant lie. He campaigns for and against other politicians. He critiques the Democrat party while cheering for Republicans. He does everything a politician does.

2. He's a non comformist, he looks outside the box, looks at the rules and laws and looks at how to use them for the better good of his country (just like a good racer)

Trump does what is best for himself. He looks and rules and laws as things he can bend and even break as president. He does not think of the "good of 'his' country" but what is good for Donald Trump, and the Trump brand.

3. He doesn't follow history, he writes it.

By separating child and parent, putting them in internment camps and IGNORING the historic lesson of Japanese Americans from WWII. He writes history by his love affair with Kim and his best friend Putin, by wagging the dog by assassinating members of foreign governments, by getting impeached for abusing his power and ignoring the authority of congress.

4. You can call religion and values all you want.

The religious right, evangelical Republicans, whatever, are hypocrites. They have values morals that they only call out when it involves the other party. They call out Clinton for a blowjob but do nothing about Trump's affairs with porn stars and playmates. They are nothing but political tools who use their religion exclusively to attack the other party, modern day Pharisees.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I've been divorced twice. Neither driven by myself or driven by infidelity or wrong doing on my part. Does that not make me a "Christian"?

You obviously have no idea what makes somebody a "Christian"...or you are intentionally ignoring it.

The bottom line is anyone outside of the US is not going to like Trump.

Anybody who sees the full scope of who Trump is will not like him.

He's looking after the best interests of the USA

Asking Ukraine and China to interfere in our elections is not in the best interest of the USA. His actions at the border are not in the best interest of the USA. The crazy tariffs are not in the best interest of the USA. Cuddling with Kim and Putin are not in the best interest of the USA.

he's looking for defense deals that are fair without the USA paying to defend the entire world and laggard countries paying their fair share, and he's looking after the best interest of his citizens.

Bitching about NATO dues and the %5 GDP thing does NOT address this - at all. Those are budget items that keep the day to day operation of NATO happening. What you describe above come out of a COMPLETE DIFFERENT fund...by nations donating money and resources to a specific cause.

I am a citizen of the USA....not Donald Trump. I am not "his citizen". I find that comment insulting.

Best US economy ever

Not true. The economy under Clinton grew at a higher rate and was completely supported by corporate and public debt as this one is.

Lowest US unemployment rate ever (black, hispanic, asian, female, white aaaahhhhhhh etc. it's all the same, it's all good)

That depends on how you look at things. IMO, the reality is that it really has not changed THAT MUCH. The same type of complaints that were lobbed during the last election can be made today. That the number is off because of the large number of people who have simply given up looking for work.

Highest stock market achievements ever

Percentage of growth of the market under Obama was
Under Obama, the S&P 500 grew by 56.4%. The Dow Jones Industrials Average was up 50.6% and the Nasdaq, 92.9%.

Trump hasn't come close to those numbers.

Best trade deals we've had ever

Tariffs, not good.

The truth is you wished he was running your country.

[/quote]

Why? Australia already has their version of Trump. Trump has even praised him for his immigration policies. The last guy was even more pathetic.[/quote]

[Aaron]

FK Mac, you changed the title again!

[Monker]

Or is it penis envy because you're leaders are just sucking up BS and not looking after the best interests of your people?

If he's doing the right thing for his people the rest of the world isn't going to like him. It's common sense. Just follow the money.

First of all, I doubt VERY MUCH that Andrew believes the current prime minister is doing the right thing for the AUSTRALIAN people (they are not 'his').

Second, what exactly are you talking about? What specific policies are not in the best interest of Australian people?

Lastly, I find it interesting, and hypocritical, how Trump fans now believe it is a good thing to have our country belittled and mocked and disrespected by the rest of the world. There was a time under that last President where the very same people said it was a huge negative. We are respected less now than we ever were under Obama.

[Andrew]

FK Mac, you changed the title again!

More suitable

[Andrew]

Or is it penis envy because you're leaders are just sucking up BS and not looking after the best interests of your people?

If he's doing the right thing for his people the rest of the world isn't going to like him. It's common sense. Just follow the money.

First of all, I doubt VERY MUCH that Andrew believes the current prime minister is doing the right thing for the AUSTRALIAN people (they are not 'his').

Second, what exactly are you talking about? What specific policies are not in the best interest of Australian people?

Lastly, I find it interesting, and hypocritical, how Trump fans now believe it is a good thing to have our country belittled and mocked and disrespected by the rest of the world. There was a time under that last President where the very same people said it was a huge negative. We are respected less now than we ever were under Obama.

The current PM is a useless smug prick, installed by Murdoch media (as per usual) and who has completely alienated most of the country with his pathetic and embarrassing handling of the bushfire crisis.

And yes, the USA's ability to convince the rest of the world to follow you is now all but decimated.

Sadly, Australia's shithouse policies on climate change and rooting the coal industry and mining magnates, plus the interference of Murdoch/News Corp (Fox News to you Americans) is putting us all on a path to certain doom.

Interestingly - the current bushfire crisis here and in particular the Murdoch RWNJ press' coverage of it and the spreading of clearly false info (BULLSHIT) - is getting people all behind a belief that it has to change and his news outlets are pure bullshit.

People here are dying because of this shit...and perhaps one day soon, irresponsible or dangerous BS news media will be be able to be held to criminal account.

[conversationpc]

Reading through this thread again is proof to me that reverse evolution is indeed occurring.

[Aaron]

And why would we care? Aaahhhhhh, the world isn't following us. AAAAHHHHH. That's code for the free money train is slowing down. Again ringing the bell of dispair to people that own the bell tower. We don't GAF what the rest of the world thinks. The free $ train is running dry. You can call it world order, CO2 reduction, global warming disaster, etc. Just follow the money to the real answer. We're not subscribing.

And yes, the USA's ability to convince the rest of the world to follow you is now all but decimated.

[Andrew]

And why would we care? Aaahhhhhh, the world isn't following us. AAAAHHHHH. That's code for the free money train is slowing down. Again ringing the bell of dispair to people that own the bell tower. We don't GAF what the rest of the world thinks. The free $ train is running dry. You can call it world order, CO2 reduction, global warming disaster, etc. Just follow the money to the real answer. We're not subscribing.

And yes, the USA's ability to convince the rest of the world to follow you is now all but decimated.

And that is the exact attitude that will lead to disaster. Eventually. Not giving a fuck is tantamount to sticking your thumb up your ass and sitting in the corner while the building burns down around you.

And please, all RWNJs MUST stop stating the world is sucking on the American money train. It's JUST. NOT. TRUE.

[Andrew]

So peaceful around here

It's as if Presidump Trump isn't a thing. Wishful thinking...

[Aaron]

I'm pretty sure it is. And he's still our president. Get ready for another 4 years. Dems have solidified this, thanks!

And why would we care? Aaahhhhhh, the world isn't following us. AAAAHHHHH. That's code for the free money train is slowing down. Again ringing the bell of dispair to people that own the bell tower. We don't GAF what the rest of the world thinks. The free $ train is running dry. You can call it world order, CO2 reduction, global warming disaster, etc. Just follow the money to the real answer. We're not subscribing.

And yes, the USA's ability to convince the rest of the world to follow you is now all but decimated.

And that is the exact attitude that will lead to disaster. Eventually. Not giving a fuck is tantamount to sticking your thumb up your ass and sitting in the corner while the building burns down around you.

And please, all RWNJs MUST stop stating the world is sucking on the American money train. It's JUST. NOT. TRUE.

[Aaron]

Still the pres sir.

So peaceful around here

It's as if Presidump Trump isn't a thing. Wishful thinking...

[Andrew]

I think the hard right are a very vocal minority. I can't see how the majority of Americans would want this wanker representing them any longer than is necessary.

[Memorex]

I think the hard right are a very vocal minority. I can't see how the majority of Americans would want this wanker representing them any longer than is necessary.

I see you haven't been looking at the latest polls or the low Dem turnout in Iowa. I think it is fairly safe to say that Trump will win by an even larger margin this year.

Americans are very forgiving of the way one speaks when you double their 401k and increase their wages.

[Monker]

I think the hard right are a very vocal minority. I can't see how the majority of Americans would want this wanker representing them any longer than is necessary.

I see you haven't been looking at the latest polls or the low Dem turnout in Iowa. I think it is fairly safe to say that Trump will win by an even larger margin this year.

This is just silly. First, the turnout was "on par with 2016"....and that was from EARLY COUNTS. Saying "low turnout" is not true...it is below inflated expectations, expecting 2008/Obama numbers. It's a CAUCUS - the people inventing these numbers should consider that. Considering the issues with the reporting of results and using early returns from MONDAY and make judgements based on that is unreliable and irresponsible - at the very least.

The polls show that more than 50% say the country is on the wrong path. More than 50% give Trump an unfavorable rating. Trump gained a bit in the polls that put him against individual Democrats but it has been virtually unchanged overall for weeks.

Predicting the election nine months from now and saying that Trump is going to win by an "even larger margin" is an exaggeration and simply shows your bias. He did NOT win by a large margin in 2016. He lost the popular vote and barely won in some of the toss up states. The Democrats have only been through ONE caucus. They haven't even chosen a nominee yet. Predicting Trump is going to win election by a large margin before you even know who he is running against is irresponsible.

[Memorex]

I think the hard right are a very vocal minority. I can't see how the majority of Americans would want this wanker representing them any longer than is necessary.

I see you haven't been looking at the latest polls or the low Dem turnout in Iowa. I think it is fairly safe to say that Trump will win by an even larger margin this year.

This is just silly. First, the turnout was "on par with 2016"....and that was from EARLY COUNTS. Saying "low turnout" is not true...it is below inflated expectations, expecting 2008/Obama numbers. It's a CAUCUS - the people inventing these numbers should consider that. Considering the issues with the reporting of results and using early returns from MONDAY and make judgements based on that is unreliable and irresponsible - at the very least.

The polls show that more than 50% say the country is on the wrong path. More than 50% give Trump an unfavorable rating. Trump gained a bit in the polls that put him against individual Democrats but it has been virtually unchanged overall for weeks.

Predicting the election nine months from now and saying that Trump is going to win by an "even larger margin" is an exaggeration and simply shows your bias. He did NOT win by a large margin in 2016. He lost the popular vote and barely won in some of the toss up states. The Democrats have only been through ONE caucus. They haven't even chosen a nominee yet. Predicting Trump is going to win election by a large margin before you even know who he is running against is irresponsible.

It's not difficult. I'm not some magic person, but I am not stupid or blind. Anyway, we can check back in November. And yes, 2016 numbers are low for what they need. Maybe it gets better from here for them, we'll see, but they need bigger than 2016 if they want to beat an incumbent that has the economy hot, no big wars, etc.

Trump has his highest popularity with Gallup. He is more popular than Obama was at this point, etc. I'm not sure what signs you aren't seeing. Check out the independents view of the State of the Union speech. Check out the increased minority support, etc. Anyway, time will tell but it just seems massively obvious to me.

[Monker]

It's not difficult. I'm not some magic person, but I am not stupid or blind.

No, you are biased and presumptuous. There is no way to predict with any accuracy who is going to win the election in November. You don't even know who Trump is running against. In fact, it is too early to even predict that.

And yes, 2016 numbers are low for what they need. Maybe it gets better from here for them, we'll see, but they need bigger than 2016 if they want to beat an incumbent that has the economy hot, no big wars, etc.

It's a CAUCUS state. Did you even watch any of the coverage of what you have to do to caucus for a nominee? First you have to register for a party, you can not go as an independent. So, if somebody wants to stay as an independent, they can not go to a Democrats caucus. Second you have to take hours of your time that evening to dedicate to the process. You do NOT just go in and vote as in a primary or normal election. It does not surprise me AT ALL that the numbers did not change much...IF THAT IS EVEN TRUE. This point is being way over exaggerated by the press, and you.

Trump has his highest popularity with Gallup. He is more popular than Obama was at this point, etc.

You take ONE POLL and then derive all kinds of shit from it. Overall, it hasn't changed:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.html

Trump's popularity has been stuck between 40-45% for years now.

Check out the independents view of the State of the Union speech.

I don't care. It's just a speech.

Check out the increased minority support

Yeah, sure. Republicans have been putting out this propaganda for years. There just is not that significant of a shift, especially with blacks.


[/quote]Anyway, time will tell but it just seems massively obvious to me.[/quote]

Because that is what you want to happen. But, if you take a step back and look at things, it is NOT predictable.

[Memorex]

No, you are biased and presumptuous. There is no way to predict with any accuracy who is going to win the election in November. You don't even know who Trump is running against. In fact, it is too early to even predict that.

I think at this same point in Obama's presidency, it was pretty clear he was going to win reelection no matter who the Republicans put up. I didn't like it. I hoped for the best, but it wasn't hard to figure out. And of course now we know we dodged a bullet.

I think there are many cases where it's a coin toss at this point. I don't think this is Reagan-Mondale - that will likely never occur again in our lifetimes - but it's definitely a wider margin than last time.

I'm only basing it on who is in the race now. We will have to see how Bloomberg progresses, but other than him I don't see a serious contender. And I really don't see him as all that serious of a threat either.

People that would rather have someone other than Trump, but like their 401k's and increased paychecks are going to sit at home this year. The Dems will definitely get the vote of all the really deep Trump haters and some others, but many will stay home.

I also will say that California's corrupt ballot harvesting bullshit and other fraud will likely keep the House out of the Republicans hands for the time being. Talk about corruption. I hear they are trying to introduce a bill there that if you register, you have to vote and if you don't, the attorney general can compel you to. That's just gross.

I'm just making a prediction. I think you are as bias or more than I am, so of course there is bias. But I think my analysis is fair.

[Andrew]

So smart...all the best words.

https://twitter.com/libsinamerica/statu ... 96033?s=21

[Andrew]

Watch Trumps victory speech today and please, please try and tell me he’s not a completely unhinged insane sniffling old man.

[Monker]

I think at this same point in Obama's presidency, it was pretty clear he was going to win reelection no matter who the Republicans put up.

I disagree. There was a lot of critique over Obamacare and some of how he handled the crash, bailing out the auto industry, for example. In addition, it was still a recovering economy and was critiqued for how slow the recovery was. He absolutely was vulnerable and there was no way to predict nine months ahead he would win the election.

I didn't like it. I hoped for the best, but it wasn't hard to figure out. And of course now we know we dodged a bullet.

If you mean that we dodged a bullet with Romney, I disagree with that, too. I don't think Romney would have been a disaster like W was.

I think there are many cases where it's a coin toss at this point. I don't think this is Reagan-Mondale - that will likely never occur again in our lifetimes - but it's definitely a wider margin than last time.

This is all complete speculation over something happening nine months from now.

Of course it is not like Reagan/Mondale...simply because Trump is not Ronald Reagan...and you have no idea who the Democrats will nominate.

I'm only basing it on who is in the race now. We will have to see how Bloomberg progresses, but other than him I don't see a serious contender. And I really don't see him as all that serious of a threat either.

Bloomberg skipping the early states is a huge mistake. Al Gore did this way back in 1992, relying on Super Tuesday...and he had no chance. This year could be different...Pete and Bernie could be the two front-runners coming out of NH but if Biden can come back in the next couple, then there is no clear front-runner and someone like Bloomberg could make a case...but it is very unlikely.

People that would rather have someone other than Trump, but like their 401k's and increased paychecks are going to sit at home this year.

Again, you don't know that. Stating these things as facts is just wrong...you are just guessing.

I also will say that California's corrupt ballot harvesting bullshit and other fraud will likely keep the House out of the Republicans hands for the time being.

"Ballot harvesting" is not "fraud". Perhaps Republicans should nominate people who can win instead of whining about the process.

I hear they are trying to introduce a bill there that if you register, you have to vote and if you don't, the attorney general can compel you to. That's just gross.

And, again, this is more propaganda. Even if such a thing became state law, it would be taken to court and cut down. It's just more fear mongering to stir up anger and hate.

I'm just making a prediction.

Correct. What I am saying is you are making a prediction over something that is unpredictable. It's like predicting what the weather will be two weeks from now. It just can't be done.

I think you are as bias or more than I am

But, I am not saying "Trump is going to lose in November".

so of course there is bias. But I think my analysis is fair.

As I pointed out in the polls and such, you can analyze things and make just as fair of a prediction that Trump is going to lose. But, the fact is that the election is so far away and you don't even know who he is running against, that any prediction says more about the person making the prediction than what is going to happen nine months from now.

[Memorex]

I think at this same point in Obama's presidency, it was pretty clear he was going to win reelection no matter who the Republicans put up.

I disagree. There was a lot of critique over Obamacare and some of how he handled the crash, bailing out the auto industry, for example. In addition, it was still a recovering economy and was critiqued for how slow the recovery was. He absolutely was vulnerable and there was no way to predict nine months ahead he would win the election.

I didn't like it. I hoped for the best, but it wasn't hard to figure out. And of course now we know we dodged a bullet.

If you mean that we dodged a bullet with Romney, I disagree with that, too. I don't think Romney would have been a disaster like W was.

I think there are many cases where it's a coin toss at this point. I don't think this is Reagan-Mondale - that will likely never occur again in our lifetimes - but it's definitely a wider margin than last time.

This is all complete speculation over something happening nine months from now.

Of course it is not like Reagan/Mondale...simply because Trump is not Ronald Reagan...and you have no idea who the Democrats will nominate.

I'm only basing it on who is in the race now. We will have to see how Bloomberg progresses, but other than him I don't see a serious contender. And I really don't see him as all that serious of a threat either.

Bloomberg skipping the early states is a huge mistake. Al Gore did this way back in 1992, relying on Super Tuesday...and he had no chance. This year could be different...Pete and Bernie could be the two front-runners coming out of NH but if Biden can come back in the next couple, then there is no clear front-runner and someone like Bloomberg could make a case...but it is very unlikely.

People that would rather have someone other than Trump, but like their 401k's and increased paychecks are going to sit at home this year.

Again, you don't know that. Stating these things as facts is just wrong...you are just guessing.

I also will say that California's corrupt ballot harvesting bullshit and other fraud will likely keep the House out of the Republicans hands for the time being.

"Ballot harvesting" is not "fraud". Perhaps Republicans should nominate people who can win instead of whining about the process.

I hear they are trying to introduce a bill there that if you register, you have to vote and if you don't, the attorney general can compel you to. That's just gross.

And, again, this is more propaganda. Even if such a thing became state law, it would be taken to court and cut down. It's just more fear mongering to stir up anger and hate.

I'm just making a prediction.

Correct. What I am saying is you are making a prediction over something that is unpredictable. It's like predicting what the weather will be two weeks from now. It just can't be done.

I think you are as bias or more than I am

But, I am not saying "Trump is going to lose in November".

so of course there is bias. But I think my analysis is fair.

As I pointed out in the polls and such, you can analyze things and make just as fair of a prediction that Trump is going to lose. But, the fact is that the election is so far away and you don't even know who he is running against, that any prediction says more about the person making the prediction than what is going to happen nine months from now.

We did nominate people that could win and on election night that had one. But then bullshit harvesting, which yes is fraud, overturned a number of our wins.

[Monker]

We did nominate people that could win and on election night that had one. But then bullshit harvesting, which yes is fraud, overturned a number of our wins.

Election harvesting is simply absentee ballots being turned in to the polling place by someone other than the person who filled out the ballot. In CA, that is LEGAL. Therefore, it is NOT fraud. You may not like the law or the results of the election, but it is NOT election fraud.

Fraud would be people filling out the ballot by someone other than who was to be voting and then turning it in. Prove that this happened to a point where it would have overturned an election.

[Monker]

Watch Trumps victory speech today and please, please try and tell me he’s not a completely unhinged insane sniffling old man.

It was a rant, not a speech. Anybody who thinks he learned any type of lesson from being impeached is wrong.

[Andrew]

Watch Trumps victory speech today and please, please try and tell me he’s not a completely unhinged insane sniffling old man.

It was a rant, not a speech. Anybody who thinks he learned any type of lesson from being impeached is wrong.

Widely mocked here in AU. He’s just the most vile, clueless, narcissistic person I’ve ever had the misfortune to endure.

[Memorex]

We did nominate people that could win and on election night that had one. But then bullshit harvesting, which yes is fraud, overturned a number of our wins.

Election harvesting is simply absentee ballots being turned in to the polling place by someone other than the person who filled out the ballot. In CA, that is LEGAL. Therefore, it is NOT fraud. You may not like the law or the results of the election, but it is NOT election fraud.

Fraud would be people filling out the ballot by someone other than who was to be voting and then turning it in. Prove that this happened to a point where it would have overturned an election.

If trump is so bad and hated, imagine how bad these candidates have to be.

https://youtu.be/uF3ZZW5ncZ0

[Andrew]

Brazen and open corruption at every turn. Trump and his AG are as crooked as each other. Stunning how big a fuck you this Roger Stone bullshit is to the whole country. Wow.

[Memorex]

Brazen and open corruption at every turn. Trump and his AG are as crooked as each other. Stunning how big a fuck you this Roger Stone bullshit is to the whole country. Wow.

If you think Stone did anything remotely deserving 9 years, you are watching fake news. And you must feel so many others, like Comey, Hillary, etc. deserve 20 years.