Transsexual Jesus

[bluejeangirl76]

There would be no point in the religion if individuals felt that deciding moral righteousness was something they could or should do for themselves. The religion requires that only God can make such a distinction.

The most important, and only(might I add) thing a person needs to know about religion.....

That, and the unfortunate fact that absence of religion makes many individuals feel as though they're exempt from their own accountability.

That's where a person's Locus of Control comes into effect....

Is that what it's called? I always called it "being a big drama queen martyr dickhead who blames everyone else for their problems and can't just take responsibilty for being a shithead."

But yours sounds smarter.

[Ehwmatt]

"When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion"

-Honest Abe

[verslibre]

That's where a person's Locus of Control comes into effect....

Take for instance a student who is waiting for a graded exam. She finally receives her exam and sees that she received a 71. She immediately declares, 'WTF! That test was too hard. It was obviously unfair. Half those questions were asking things I hadn't even heard before!'

Summary: She has an EXTERNAL locus of control....wasn't her fault the test was too hard. She had no control over her grade.

Whereas if she had an internal locus of control, she would have said something like this: 'Yeah, a 71...I knew it was going to be something like that. I really should have studied harder. I remember the professor mentioning this stuff, i just went out to a party the night before and didn't study as much as i should have. I deserved the grade.'

A friend and I were cruising Hollywood and Burbank last week. We hit Amoeba Records and some other places, and later ended up in Burbank for a signing.

My friend, who I'll refer to as "Nad," thought it would be nifty to let his newly-bought GPS do all the navigating for us. I could have saved us a ton of trouble by merely referring to Sunset Boulevard, Cahuenga Boulevard, N/S/E/W, the position of the sun, the Capitol Records building, etc., but to prove a point (and because Nad is one stubborn mofo), I let the GPS do its thing.

Nad's wife programmed it for "shortest" instead of "quickest," and hence it served up the most zigzag routes a motorist could possibly endure, taking us through residential streets that any sensible driver would avoid entirely. Nad practically exploded every fifteen seconds, to my extreme amusement, whenever the GPS chick-bot uttered a new command. "GAWDAMMIT!! WHERE THE FUCK ARE WE GOING?? WHAT'S WITH ALL THESE TRAFFIC LIGHTS!! FUCKING GEE PEE ESS!! PIECE OF SHIT!!"

You'd think we had an A.I. onboard, telling us where to go.

And that's why I think religious types have an EXTERNAL locus of control.

Not all of them. Many, sure, but not all.

[verslibre]

I think we have a moral compass built into us. There are so many people who don't pursue a faith but still no what's right or wrong merely by instinct.

There are countless defective inbuilt moral compasses out there. I wish those tools would get around to mailing their warranty cards.

That's the case with all working mechanisms and living organisms. The larger the number produced, the greater chance of defects. Just ask Toyota.

The more egg cartons, the more cracked eggs. Buy free range, anyhow.

[YoungJRNY]

http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_ ... =2&x=34768

You did not comprehend a thing I said.

May I point out to you that your atheism has it's roots in Christian belief and in fact Christians were the first people to be called "atheists" in the world.

Atheism has strayed so far from the path of enlightenment that they no longer understand that they are now the problem, and that their dogmatism and their brand of control and "fundamentalism" has been far more damaging to this country in the last century than anything the evangelicals have come up with.

You have stripped the mythos and soul and heritage from the country so thoroughly that our society is eroding and we are completely lost and are setting ourselves up to be victimized by reverse colonization by more stable minded cultures - aka "Islamic", just like what is currently happening to Europe.

A society needs it's myths to stay intact in order for it to function, stripping away those myths and replacing them with nihilism, as you and your kind have done... does nothing but destroy the culture.

Now our children are gang fucking each other like animals at various parties and mainlining chemicals to give them some sense of worth, because they no longer have the hope, devotion, and belonging that comes with the wonder of mysticism.

Enlightened Christianity brought about the greatest advancement and liberties human history has ever known, and now you are willing to throw the baby out with the bath water and tear everything down that western society has built just so you can get your mad out on God. And what does that leave for those who come after us?

I comprehended what you said, but there wasn't really anything there that you did say to debate. I just took things of what you said about a.) The ignorant comment about Atheist's being dumbass's and B.) Just using what you were saying as a new start topic, that's all.

As to you "pointing out" that Christians were "first called Atheists' well, that pretty much solves nothing nor has nothing to do with the Atheist, Catholic, or Christian belief. Here is the definition of Atheism.

Atheism can refer either to the rejection of theism,[1] or to the position that deities do not exist.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.[3]

The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without gods", which was derogatorily applied to anyone thought to not believe in the accepted gods, or to believe in false gods, no gods, or doctrines that stood in conflict with established religions. With the spread of freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves as "atheist" appeared in the 18th century.

So, there you have it. I don't care where it originated who who was called it first blah blah, that has nothing to do with the belief itself. Atheist's are Atheist's for a reason.

The sad thing about being an Atheist is, people are usually ignorant toward the term. People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper. Atheist's believe in the same exact things than Christians, or Catholics do, and that's life, love, friends, happiness and family. We just don't happen to believe in any God, Devil, Heaven or Hell.

[bluejeangirl76]

life, love, friends, happiness and family.

At the end of everything, those are the things that matter.

[verslibre]

People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper.

So the next time somebody's working a crossword puzzle and says "Gimme another another word for atheist," the synonym they're looking for is...satanist?!

Seriously, nobody, and I mean nobody, confuses an atheist for a devil worshipper, son.

</"Dirty" Harry Callahan>

[artist4perry]

While loving the Christian bash that is going on.......... I guess I am tickled to see that as one not once have I threatened to blow any one up here for their kind insights and all around stereotypes.......and by the way I don't buy into the rapture......still haven't found that in the bible anywhere.........and I have read it may times...........

I am far from foulable. I make mistakes, say things I later regret........and for the most part show signs of being quite human..........

As for my friend SM............all people are full of the brown stuff most of the time.........its called the digestive tract. So I guess as many on the fencers have the same browning effect...........

I truely love everyone here, though I don't always agree with everyone here. I doubt we all agree on everything anyway......how dull would this site be without variety of thoughts........

As for Christians being bad.......or stupid.........I guess you can chalk me up to both.............I truely beleive someone died on a cross to forgive a rotten worm like me..........and I am so glad for his strengthening influence on my daily life.......if I die and was "delusional" then maybe through his teachings I have learned to be better than I would have been without him.....but that is a personal thing...............and if I die and I am dirt..........I have no regrets........


But one thing I don't remember ever doing.............putting someone down because they do not beleive.

I don't take any of this too personal............but I will stand up and say I woud defend him till I die........ as for the trasexual Jesus........what can I say.........I just would not attend.....and go my own way. Sad someone can hate someone who did no harm in this world, but it is a free country, and I beleive in free speach.............my soapbox complete..........love you guys anyway.

[Don]

Okay, this isn't aimed at anyone.

Who commits the greater sin?

The person who doesn't believe in God or the person who finds satisfaction in the fact that God will punish the nonbeliever for his ignorance.
Even If God is a vengeful God, does he allow his followers to enjoy the same character trait?

Again, no slam on anyone. Just looking a plausible answer here.

[artist4perry]

Okay, this isn't aimed at anyone.

Who commits the greater sin?

The person who doesn't believe in God or the person who finds satisfaction in the fact that God will punish the nonbeliever for his ignorance.
Even If God is a vengeful God, does he allow his followers to enjoy the same character trait?

Again, no slam on anyone. Just looking a plausible answer here.

Read the parable about the 90 and 9...........he did not rest till the one lost one was found...........then there was rejoicing.

Anyone who rejoices over someone being lost and going to hell........is not Christian. And God is not vengeful...........just hopeful.........for ones the lost lambs he worries over.

[3] Then Jesus told them this parable: [4] "Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? [5] And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders [6] and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, 'Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.' [7] I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Kind of that free will thing.........believing or not.........at least that is my view...........

P.S...........I just noticed........this is the 99 th post

[YoungJRNY]

People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper.

So the next time somebody's working a crossword puzzle and says "Gimme another another word for atheist," the synonym they're looking for is...satanist?!

Seriously, nobody, and I mean nobody, confuses an atheist for a devil worshipper, son.

</"Dirty" Harry Callahan>

I'm not talking about people who study, or people of religion. I'm talking about people who says their religious and believes in the bible without reading a damn word on the page and believes in it "just because it's the right thing to do." Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

[Ehwmatt]

People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper.

So the next time somebody's working a crossword puzzle and says "Gimme another another word for atheist," the synonym they're looking for is...satanist?!

Seriously, nobody, and I mean nobody, confuses an atheist for a devil worshipper, son.

</"Dirty" Harry Callahan>

I'm not talking about people who study, or people of religion. I'm talking about people who says their religious and believes in the bible without reading a damn word on the page and believes in it "just because it's the right thing to do." Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

I have the misfortune of traveling to your horrendous state this evening. Luckily, I bought my beer here since I won't be able to buy any by the time I get there!

[YoungJRNY]

People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper.

So the next time somebody's working a crossword puzzle and says "Gimme another another word for atheist," the synonym they're looking for is...satanist?!

Seriously, nobody, and I mean nobody, confuses an atheist for a devil worshipper, son.

</"Dirty" Harry Callahan>

I'm not talking about people who study, or people of religion. I'm talking about people who says their religious and believes in the bible without reading a damn word on the page and believes in it "just because it's the right thing to do." Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

I have the misfortune of traveling to your horrendous state this evening. Luckily, I bought my beer here since I won't be able to buy any by the time I get there!

Irony is.. the Browns have become so bad that the bars downtown give each Browns fan a free beer out of sympathy! So wear a Browns jersey or shirt!

[TRAGChick]

Not to step on anyone's toes or beliefs (cause I respect that).. and I apologize to anyone if this offends anybody, so if you would be offended, read no further but..

RELIGION IS BULLSHIT! I can't believe a book.. a BOOK mind you, written by 40 or more different authors, corrupted so many human beings to not only death, suicide, murder, and war, but making people believe there is an invisible man, watching our every move in the sky. Take a look outside for ONE moment. If this is the best "God" could do, I'm not impressed.

...and this is exactly WHY it's called Faith.

From a former Astrologist.

Just so you know.

[verslibre]

Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

Maybe in your state the folks are that stupid, but I haven't run across that problem over here in California.

[bluejeangirl76]

People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper.

So the next time somebody's working a crossword puzzle and says "Gimme another another word for atheist," the synonym they're looking for is...satanist?!

Seriously, nobody, and I mean nobody, confuses an atheist for a devil worshipper, son.

</"Dirty" Harry Callahan>

I'm not talking about people who study, or people of religion. I'm talking about people who says their religious and believes in the bible without reading a damn word on the page and believes in it "just because it's the right thing to do." Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

I haven't run across that, but what I have seen is that religious people hear "atheist" and immediately are shocked, like you've just said "I killed a guy"... I keep my feelings on religion and the bible and all that to myself, but my ex never had a problem announcing his atheism. And I told him "please don't use that word in front of my huge catholic family, especially my dad!!!" Not because of being atheist necessarily, but I just know that they are the kind of people who don't really get what it means and have a preassigned stigma with something like that, because Christians, esp. Catholics, don't particularly care if you are another religion, but if you have NO religion, they freak right out. (as kind of proved in this thread)

[verslibre]

I haven't run across that, but what I have seen is that religious people hear "atheist" and immediately are shocked, like you've just said "I killed a guy"... I keep my feelings on religion and the bible and all that to myself, but my ex never had a problem announcing his atheism. And I told him "please don't use that word in front of my huge catholic family, especially my dad!!!" Not because of being atheist necessarily, but I just know that they are the kind of people who don't really get what it means and have a preassigned stigma with something like that, because Christians, esp. Catholics, don't particularly care if you are another religion, but if you have NO religion, they freak right out. (as kind of proved in this thread)

That's not always true, either.

[StoneCold]

If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on matter. If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew and a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz theistically.

This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is true , but rather because of a series of chemical reactions… … Morality, tragedy, and sorrow are equally evanescent. They are all empty sensations created by the chemical reactions of the brain, in turn created by too much pizza the night before.

If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical epiphenomena, like swamp gas over fetid water. This means that we have no reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality.

If no God, mankind is a set of bi-pedal carbon units of mostly water. And nothing else.

Douglas Wilson

[artist4perry]

People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper.

So the next time somebody's working a crossword puzzle and says "Gimme another another word for atheist," the synonym they're looking for is...satanist?!

Seriously, nobody, and I mean nobody, confuses an atheist for a devil worshipper, son.

</"Dirty" Harry Callahan>

I'm not talking about people who study, or people of religion. I'm talking about people who says their religious and believes in the bible without reading a damn word on the page and believes in it "just because it's the right thing to do." Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

I haven't run across that, but what I have seen is that religious people hear "atheist" and immediately are shocked, like you've just said "I killed a guy"... I keep my feelings on religion and the bible and all that to myself, but my ex never had a problem announcing his atheism. And I told him "please don't use that word in front of my huge catholic family, especially my dad!!!" Not because of being atheist necessarily, but I just know that they are the kind of people who don't really get what it means and have a preassigned stigma with something like that, because Christians, esp. Catholics, don't particularly care if you are another religion, but if you have NO religion, they freak right out. (as kind of proved in this thread)

And I freeked out where? You see what bugs me is stereotypeing goes two ways. I have never "Freeked" out over anyone saying they don't belieive, but I do have to put up with people lumping all faiths toghether as one and telling me what I believe without even asking. Atheism is just someone who does not beleive in a God. I got that a long time ago.

[bluejeangirl76]

People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper.

So the next time somebody's working a crossword puzzle and says "Gimme another another word for atheist," the synonym they're looking for is...satanist?!

Seriously, nobody, and I mean nobody, confuses an atheist for a devil worshipper, son.

</"Dirty" Harry Callahan>

I'm not talking about people who study, or people of religion. I'm talking about people who says their religious and believes in the bible without reading a damn word on the page and believes in it "just because it's the right thing to do." Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

I haven't run across that, but what I have seen is that religious people hear "atheist" and immediately are shocked, like you've just said "I killed a guy"... I keep my feelings on religion and the bible and all that to myself, but my ex never had a problem announcing his atheism. And I told him "please don't use that word in front of my huge catholic family, especially my dad!!!" Not because of being atheist necessarily, but I just know that they are the kind of people who don't really get what it means and have a preassigned stigma with something like that, because Christians, esp. Catholics, don't particularly care if you are another religion, but if you have NO religion, they freak right out. (as kind of proved in this thread)

And I freeked out where? You see what bugs me is stereotypeing goes two ways. I have never "Freeked" out over anyone saying they don't belieive, but I do have to put up with people lumping all faiths toghether as one and telling me what I believe without even asking. Atheism is just someone who does not beleive in a God. I got that a long time ago.

No no no.... where did I ever name names? I was talking about in general, based on situations I've witnessed personally... just the looks that people give and the comments they make when they hear someone say the word atheist, like it's a crime or something. And I saw it happen a little in this thread, but no it wasn't you.

[artist4perry]

People who think Atheist automatically think devil worshiper.

So the next time somebody's working a crossword puzzle and says "Gimme another another word for atheist," the synonym they're looking for is...satanist?!

Seriously, nobody, and I mean nobody, confuses an atheist for a devil worshipper, son.

</"Dirty" Harry Callahan>

I'm not talking about people who study, or people of religion. I'm talking about people who says their religious and believes in the bible without reading a damn word on the page and believes in it "just because it's the right thing to do." Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

I haven't run across that, but what I have seen is that religious people hear "atheist" and immediately are shocked, like you've just said "I killed a guy"... I keep my feelings on religion and the bible and all that to myself, but my ex never had a problem announcing his atheism. And I told him "please don't use that word in front of my huge catholic family, especially my dad!!!" Not because of being atheist necessarily, but I just know that they are the kind of people who don't really get what it means and have a preassigned stigma with something like that, because Christians, esp. Catholics, don't particularly care if you are another religion, but if you have NO religion, they freak right out. (as kind of proved in this thread)

And I freeked out where? You see what bugs me is stereotypeing goes two ways. I have never "Freeked" out over anyone saying they don't belieive, but I do have to put up with people lumping all faiths toghether as one and telling me what I believe without even asking. Atheism is just someone who does not beleive in a God. I got that a long time ago.

No no no.... where did I ever name names? I was talking about in general, based on situations I've witnessed personally... just the looks that people give and the comments they make when they hear someone say the word atheist, like it's a crime or something. And I saw it happen a little in this thread, but no it wasn't you.

Girl you know I loves ya......but when you say Christians beleive................blank..........I am one.........not perfect........but I am trying to be a good person. Some people take religion to an extreme......but that is not all of us.

[verslibre]

If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on matter. If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew and a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz theistically.

This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is true , but rather because of a series of chemical reactions… … Morality, tragedy, and sorrow are equally evanescent. They are all empty sensations created by the chemical reactions of the brain, in turn created by too much pizza the night before.

If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical epiphenomena, like swamp gas over fetid water. This means that we have no reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality.

If no God, mankind is a set of bi-pedal carbon units of mostly water. And nothing else.

Douglas Wilson

"Ugly bags of mostly water."

[YoungJRNY]

Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

Maybe in your state the folks are that stupid, but I haven't run across that problem over here in California.

Very nice response. Intelligently written! +1.

Wait a minute.. California.. the state of unique Same Sex Marriage laws. Ironically, the majority of Cali is going to hell since God doesn't support Gay-marriage. Maybe THAT'S why you haven't come across it. They are eternally burning.

[bluejeangirl76]

Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

Maybe in your state the folks are that stupid, but I haven't run across that problem over here in California.

Very nice response. Intelligently written! +1.

Wait a minute.. California.. the state of unique Same Sex Marriage laws. Ironically, the majority of Cali is going to hell since God doesn't support Gay-marriage. Maybe THAT'S why you haven't come across it. They are eternally burning.

What? God does not support gay marriage?

Wow. I thought God loved everyone and wanted us to follow in that example and treat others as we wanted to be treated. I guess I was absent the day they handed out God's list of exceptions.

Oh wait, that wasn't God's list - that was ignorant man's list.

[YoungJRNY]

Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

Maybe in your state the folks are that stupid, but I haven't run across that problem over here in California.

Very nice response. Intelligently written! +1.

Wait a minute.. California.. the state of unique Same Sex Marriage laws. Ironically, the majority of Cali is going to hell since God doesn't support Gay-marriage. Maybe THAT'S why you haven't come across it. They are eternally burning.

What? God does not support gay marriage?

Wow. I thought God loved everyone and wanted us to follow in that example and treat others as we wanted to be treated. I guess I was absent the day they handed out God's list of exceptions.

Oh wait, that wasn't God's list - that was ignorant man's list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68

I think you'd like this, BJG. Makes me laugh every time!

Another good one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCuc34h ... 5D7E2A5011

[bluejeangirl76]

Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

Maybe in your state the folks are that stupid, but I haven't run across that problem over here in California.

Very nice response. Intelligently written! +1.

Wait a minute.. California.. the state of unique Same Sex Marriage laws. Ironically, the majority of Cali is going to hell since God doesn't support Gay-marriage. Maybe THAT'S why you haven't come across it. They are eternally burning.

What? God does not support gay marriage?

Wow. I thought God loved everyone and wanted us to follow in that example and treat others as we wanted to be treated. I guess I was absent the day they handed out God's list of exceptions.

Oh wait, that wasn't God's list - that was ignorant man's list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68

I think you'd like this, BJG. Makes me laugh every time!

You shouldn't post things like that!! You will be smited!! Erm... smote? Smoted?
Smiteth?

Er. Well, something bad will happen, anyway. Real bad.

Maybe.

[bluejeangirl76]

"My momma said hollerin' in church don't make you any more of Christian than standin' in the garage makes you a Cadillac."

~ Beyonce's Character, "Some Movie I Don't Know The Name of, But Is On TBS Right Now".

Fitting to the present course of the topic.

[iLex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68

I think you'd like this, BJG. Makes me laugh every time!

Another good one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCuc34h ... 5D7E2A5011

Haha... these videos are saying it all...excellent!

[verslibre]

Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

Maybe in your state the folks are that stupid, but I haven't run across that problem over here in California.

Very nice response. Intelligently written! +1.

Wait a minute.. California.. the state of unique Same Sex Marriage laws. Ironically, the majority of Cali is going to hell since God doesn't support Gay-marriage. Maybe THAT'S why you haven't come across it. They are eternally burning.

Haven't heard of Proposition 8?

[YoungJRNY]

Those people, who are ignorant towards the fact, when they hear the word atheist, they automatically assume believing in the devil. I've seen it countless number of times.

Maybe in your state the folks are that stupid, but I haven't run across that problem over here in California.

Very nice response. Intelligently written! +1.

Wait a minute.. California.. the state of unique Same Sex Marriage laws. Ironically, the majority of Cali is going to hell since God doesn't support Gay-marriage. Maybe THAT'S why you haven't come across it. They are eternally burning.

Haven't heard of Proposition 8?

Yeah, but that wasn't EXACTLY the point. The point is, California is that state that goes far and beyond and makes it known of what they want from their same marriage sex laws, and that's the state where homosexuals voice their opinion on this issue quite harshly. The point still remains, that God hates homosexuals (read it, it's in your bible), and demands them to suffer after we live this irrelevant life. Good guy!