Behshad wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Why are we comparing moving on quickly after death vs. divorce, by the way? Not the same ballpark.
Thank you! Love you!
You're welcome. And so far I just like you a lot. You've not even bought me dinner yet!


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Behshad wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Why are we comparing moving on quickly after death vs. divorce, by the way? Not the same ballpark.
Thank you! Love you!
Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:My inlaws dated for 3 months and got married their 4th month together... they've been married for 41 years now. They didnt' have a dying spouse.. and wow, they fell in love that QUICK!! Amazing! And how do you know how it looks to his kids and family? They may be happy to see him happy again and maybe, just maybe she is a wonderful woman.
And no, I think you have no clue because you haven't seen a parent lose a spouse through death. It's living hte experience. And if his family is having a hard time, over time they will understand. It takes TIME.
Lynn, I remember you talking about how your parents were saying you were "rushing" into your marriage a few times on here. Between your obviously happy marriage that I'm assuming happened at least relatively fast(???), your inlaws, and perhaps other family/friend experiences, I think you just have a different outlook on the situation.
In my family, none of the marriages resulted from quick courtships. My grandparents on my mom's side were high school sweethearts, but didn't marry til after college. Hell, even my friends who have gotten married have not done so after whirlwind courtships. It just gives you a totally different outlook on the situation. I think you're taking me and B's differences of opinion a little personally. It's nothing personal. It's not fair to say we have no clue.
EDIT: B makes better points above ^^^ It's really about the respect in the wake of death, I've gotten off my original point
Deb wrote:Deb wrote:Behshad wrote:Deb wrote:Jana wrote:You would be surpised to know that just as many people get divorced who dated a long period of time years. I have friends and co-workers and neighbors, relatives, acquaintances who got divorced, and none of them married after only months. And I have a lot of clients who are divorce lawyers, and in all the divorces I take, not one was a quick courtship.
Yep. I went out with my exhub for 5 years first, then was married for 18 days before divorcing. It happens.
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LOL, my best friend told me that he'd never grow up, but did I listen, noooooooooo.23 years later, she may have been right.
That same cute party boy personality that I was attracted to when I was 18 wasn't as an attractive of a trait in our 40s.
It took over a year after the divorce, but we are great friends now.
Oh you little shithead, I see your change to my post now.![]()
After I ramble on.....
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StevePerryHair wrote:nice try matthew, but we knew each other 3 years before that wedding date. And that was too soon because of our AGES and the fact that my Italian motherinlaw could not cut the freaking apron strings from her grown "fav" son![]()
We tried to tell them they got married in 3 months, and 3 years is too short, and they said it was different, they were older
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My parents on the other hand were very supportive. They were IN OUR SHOES and they got married yonger than we did, and they never judged us
Behshad wrote:[
Respecting others, specially your dead wife, isnt the same as OWING them anything... you should be very sorry for trying to force your opinion on us
Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
bluejeangirl76 wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:nice try matthew, but we knew each other 3 years before that wedding date. And that was too soon because of our AGES and the fact that my Italian motherinlaw could not cut the freaking apron strings from her grown "fav" son![]()
We tried to tell them they got married in 3 months, and 3 years is too short, and they said it was different, they were older
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My parents on the other hand were very supportive. They were IN OUR SHOES and they got married yonger than we did, and they never judged us
My sister did the same thing to me.Said I was too young. (I turned 24 two weeks before the wedding) I said "Excuse me? you were 26. And Cathy (our older sis) was 21... what's your friggin' point?"
And it turns out, ages or doing it 'too young' or 'too fast' had nothing to do with why it didn't work 6 years later. Marrying a shithead was a pretty good-sized part of it though.
Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
No Im just asking YOU,,, since you say it doesnt matter how long after spouse died,,,, as long as he/she carried out the vows,,,,,,
my point,,, TIME DOES MATTER!
StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
No Im just asking YOU,,, since you say it doesnt matter how long after spouse died,,,, as long as he/she carried out the vows,,,,,,
my point,,, TIME DOES MATTER!
Well, lets see... that would mean a break in vows... so that changes what respect means, doesnt it?
Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
No Im just asking YOU,,, since you say it doesnt matter how long after spouse died,,,, as long as he/she carried out the vows,,,,,,
my point,,, TIME DOES MATTER!
Well, lets see... that would mean a break in vows... so that changes what respect means, doesnt it?
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how would it be a break in vows? if they just MET the day of funeral ?
StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
No Im just asking YOU,,, since you say it doesnt matter how long after spouse died,,,, as long as he/she carried out the vows,,,,,,
my point,,, TIME DOES MATTER!
Well, lets see... that would mean a break in vows... so that changes what respect means, doesnt it?
'
how would it be a break in vows? if they just MET the day of funeral ?
Yeah, happens all the time... people fall in love at a funeral and then declare their wedding date at the same time..Give me a REAL scenario.
StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:[
Respecting others, specially your dead wife, isnt the same as OWING them anything... you should be very sorry for trying to force your opinion on us
I still dont' see how he is disrespecting anyone. He carried out his vows and he loved his wife dearly. I dont' see it as disrespect at all. And I dont' have to be right BB. This is my opinion and how I feel and I just think people have no idea until they see death and marriage the way I have.
Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
No Im just asking YOU,,, since you say it doesnt matter how long after spouse died,,,, as long as he/she carried out the vows,,,,,,
my point,,, TIME DOES MATTER!
bluejeangirl76 wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:[
Respecting others, specially your dead wife, isnt the same as OWING them anything... you should be very sorry for trying to force your opinion on us
I still dont' see how he is disrespecting anyone. He carried out his vows and he loved his wife dearly. I dont' see it as disrespect at all. And I dont' have to be right BB. This is my opinion and how I feel and I just think people have no idea until they see death and marriage the way I have.
You know, what people are also not considering is the level of acceptance he might have reached before the loss of his wife. She was ill for a long time, and the idea that this may have been a discussion they had during that time has come up, but even if it did not come up - it may be possible that he came to terms with her loss before she actually passed... again, people handle things differently, so maybe for him, he accepted and made peace with the reality of what was happening to help him handle it easier.
lights1961 wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
No Im just asking YOU,,, since you say it doesnt matter how long after spouse died,,,, as long as he/she carried out the vows,,,,,,
my point,,, TIME DOES MATTER!
my two cents...
Time only matters to the grieving person... and that time can be a lifetime of grieving... and never be able to get over a death...and thus be alone forever... or it can be a short grieving time period and then you move forward in your own life so you can live it to the fullest and still have memories of your loved one... we will each grieve differently, when the time comes...
Rick
bluejeangirl76 wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:[
Respecting others, specially your dead wife, isnt the same as OWING them anything... you should be very sorry for trying to force your opinion on us
I still dont' see how he is disrespecting anyone. He carried out his vows and he loved his wife dearly. I dont' see it as disrespect at all. And I dont' have to be right BB. This is my opinion and how I feel and I just think people have no idea until they see death and marriage the way I have.
You know, what people are also not considering is the level of acceptance he might have reached before the loss of his wife. She was ill for a long time, and the idea that this may have been a discussion they had during that time has come up, but even if it did not come up - it may be possible that he came to terms with her loss before she actually passed... again, people handle things differently, so maybe for him, he accepted and made peace with the reality of what was happening to help him handle it easier.
Ehwmatt wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:[
Respecting others, specially your dead wife, isnt the same as OWING them anything... you should be very sorry for trying to force your opinion on us
I still dont' see how he is disrespecting anyone. He carried out his vows and he loved his wife dearly. I dont' see it as disrespect at all. And I dont' have to be right BB. This is my opinion and how I feel and I just think people have no idea until they see death and marriage the way I have.
You know, what people are also not considering is the level of acceptance he might have reached before the loss of his wife. She was ill for a long time, and the idea that this may have been a discussion they had during that time has come up, but even if it did not come up - it may be possible that he came to terms with her loss before she actually passed... again, people handle things differently, so maybe for him, he accepted and made peace with the reality of what was happening to help him handle it easier.
Lynn brought that up and it was a good point. However, even if they talked about it, if you believe in heaven or even just speaking hypothetically if the wife could see him today, do you really think she'd feel pleased that he was MARRYING someone so soon (and shotuing his love out 3 months after her passing). Even in the most loving relationship where they'd only want the other's happiness, I find it hard to believe most people would be cool with the timeframe. Dating after 10 months would be one thing, but marrying... even if discussed, I dunno.
Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
No Im just asking YOU,,, since you say it doesnt matter how long after spouse died,,,, as long as he/she carried out the vows,,,,,,
my point,,, TIME DOES MATTER!
Well, lets see... that would mean a break in vows... so that changes what respect means, doesnt it?
'
how would it be a break in vows? if they just MET the day of funeral ?
Yeah, happens all the time... people fall in love at a funeral and then declare their wedding date at the same time..Give me a REAL scenario.
ok,,lets say a WEEK after your dad passed away , your mom would say that he met this wonderful man a week ago and theyre getting married in a month....
Michigan Girl wrote:I very much see the point "B" is trying to make. It could
very well have happened while she (Kyle) was in the
hospital for all we know...perhaps this girl worked there.
She may have been a source of comfort to him at that
time...
StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:Here is a very simple way to get across to Lynn !!!
You say the time frame doesnt matter , its about love and happiness, correct!??
Tell me how would you have reacted if on the day of your fathers funeral , your mom wouldve introduced you to Kirk and told you "Lynn, this is Kirk, We are getting married next month cause he is really making me a happy person"
Hmm, is that what Michael sweet did? I don't remember reading that...
No Im just asking YOU,,, since you say it doesnt matter how long after spouse died,,,, as long as he/she carried out the vows,,,,,,
my point,,, TIME DOES MATTER!
Well, lets see... that would mean a break in vows... so that changes what respect means, doesnt it?
'
how would it be a break in vows? if they just MET the day of funeral ?
Yeah, happens all the time... people fall in love at a funeral and then declare their wedding date at the same time..Give me a REAL scenario.
ok,,lets say a WEEK after your dad passed away , your mom would say that he met this wonderful man a week ago and theyre getting married in a month....
Nobody meets someone and says they are getting married in one week... try again![]()
StevePerryHair wrote:Well, he's a religious guy too though I also brought up. Does he believe in sex before marriage? He may not. And does he believe that "God" brought her into his life, most likely so, and with that idea, he will feel it's right. He has very strong beliefs and convictions, that is obvious. Right or wrong, it's how he feels and it's what he believes and I respect that. He isnt' doing anything horrible by falling in love. Sorry.
Deb wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Well, he's a religious guy too though I also brought up. Does he believe in sex before marriage? He may not. And does he believe that "God" brought her into his life, most likely so, and with that idea, he will feel it's right. He has very strong beliefs and convictions, that is obvious. Right or wrong, it's how he feels and it's what he believes and I respect that. He isnt' doing anything horrible by falling in love. Sorry.
Who knows if it's love, maybe he's just real horny?
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Bahaha......I kid, I kid.
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Ehwmatt wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:I very much see the point "B" is trying to make. It could
very well have happened while she (Kyle) was in the
hospital for all we know...perhaps this girl worked there.
She may have been a source of comfort to him at that
time...
Sex before marriage shmex before marriage, he was bangin this broad before Kyle passed, I'm willing to bet good $ on that.
Ehwmatt wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:[
Respecting others, specially your dead wife, isnt the same as OWING them anything... you should be very sorry for trying to force your opinion on us
I still dont' see how he is disrespecting anyone. He carried out his vows and he loved his wife dearly. I dont' see it as disrespect at all. And I dont' have to be right BB. This is my opinion and how I feel and I just think people have no idea until they see death and marriage the way I have.
You know, what people are also not considering is the level of acceptance he might have reached before the loss of his wife. She was ill for a long time, and the idea that this may have been a discussion they had during that time has come up, but even if it did not come up - it may be possible that he came to terms with her loss before she actually passed... again, people handle things differently, so maybe for him, he accepted and made peace with the reality of what was happening to help him handle it easier.
Lynn brought that up and it was a good point. However, even if they talked about it, if you believe in heaven or even just speaking hypothetically if the wife could see him today, do you really think she'd feel pleased that he was MARRYING someone so soon (and shotuing his love out 3 months after her passing). Even in the most loving relationship where they'd only want the other's happiness, I find it hard to believe most people would be cool with the timeframe. Dating after 10 months would be one thing, but marrying... even if discussed, I dunno.
Jana wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Behshad wrote:[
Respecting others, specially your dead wife, isnt the same as OWING them anything... you should be very sorry for trying to force your opinion on us
I still dont' see how he is disrespecting anyone. He carried out his vows and he loved his wife dearly. I dont' see it as disrespect at all. And I dont' have to be right BB. This is my opinion and how I feel and I just think people have no idea until they see death and marriage the way I have.
You know, what people are also not considering is the level of acceptance he might have reached before the loss of his wife. She was ill for a long time, and the idea that this may have been a discussion they had during that time has come up, but even if it did not come up - it may be possible that he came to terms with her loss before she actually passed... again, people handle things differently, so maybe for him, he accepted and made peace with the reality of what was happening to help him handle it easier.
Lynn brought that up and it was a good point. However, even if they talked about it, if you believe in heaven or even just speaking hypothetically if the wife could see him today, do you really think she'd feel pleased that he was MARRYING someone so soon (and shotuing his love out 3 months after her passing). Even in the most loving relationship where they'd only want the other's happiness, I find it hard to believe most people would be cool with the timeframe. Dating after 10 months would be one thing, but marrying... even if discussed, I dunno.
If my mom looked down and saw my dad proclaiming his love for a new woman months after her death, lightening would strike him.
In fact, the day b/f my dad died he was at my brother's house and was talking about how lonely he was and about the women at his church. And my brother said, dad, have you ever thought about online dating for seniors. After dad went home that night, my brother sat down at this very heavy oak desk that had a pullout keyboard that was heavy and never moved. My brother went online on a seniors dating site and saw a woman dad's type in the areal, and as he went to click on it, the drawer, which never moves, violently slammed shut. My brother freaked out and turned off the computer. My dad died the next morning. We believe my mom said, enough of this foolishness, you're coming back to me.![]()
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I know my mother.
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Now, on the other hand, my father, who was in ill health, for a year b/f my mom was diagnosed, used to talk about he was going to find my mom her next husband. He had it all planned out. He said he wouldn't be around much longer, body giving out, and he didn't want mom to be all alone He had a widowed doctor all picked out for her.He said he wanted to know she was taken care of and all right after he was gone. He never expected it to be vice versa. But mom wouldn't be so open. I know my mom didn't want another woman in HER house in HER kitchen. taking care of HER husband.
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