Anticipated Albums of 2010

[Ehwmatt]

The trouble is, more often than not, modern remasters are a joke. All they do is recompress the damn thing and make it louder half the time. That's not really doing anything for the overall quality. I've heard some good remasters, but a lot of the mainstream remasters are terrible.

Good point. When all you are doing is blowing out the peaks in order to make the thing louder, you aren't improving the sound quality. If anything, you are making it worse....but it is louder, which must be better.

What's your take on Perry's job on the Journey remasters? I do think he improved those.

To be honest, I've only heard the TBF one and it's VASTLY improved.

[kgdjpubs]

The trouble is, more often than not, modern remasters are a joke. All they do is recompress the damn thing and make it louder half the time. That's not really doing anything for the overall quality. I've heard some good remasters, but a lot of the mainstream remasters are terrible.

Good point. When all you are doing is blowing out the peaks in order to make the thing louder, you aren't improving the sound quality. If anything, you are making it worse....but it is louder, which must be better.

What's your take on Perry's job on the Journey remasters? I do think he improved those.

haven't heard it, and honestly, don't plan to. I bought the albums once. I doubt I'll buy them again, so unless somebody wants to give them to me as a present, I doubt I'll hear them.

Regardless of how good they sound remastered, the one thing you CANNOT change is the songwriting and performances. In the end, it's the same song. You're not going to make a better song by remastering an album, and there is nothing as far as bonus tracks that I want (or don't already have) that is enough to convince me to buy it again.

[kgdjpubs]

We've talked music before man, I know you know your shit and have a huge variety of taste. I suspect we have many of the same favorites going by our past talks and this post. I love it all from all eras if the hook and musicianship is there. Anything from 60s hard rock to hippie shit to Motown to 70s rock to AOR/MR of the 80s to the alternative pop of the 90s etc. One thing that has always surprised me is the fragmentation of musical tastes on here. The thing I've loved about MR is it combines many of the aspects of several favored genres of mine, especially progressive rock, 70s power pop, and 60s pop, and I always figured people heavily into this genre would have similarly wide tastes. But, many here don't seem to.

For instance, a lot of people here seem to base their tastes solely or heavily on whether the band has a soaring tenor vocalist, which just blows my mind and limits your horizons so much. Oh well, to each his own.

I've noticed the same thing myself. The pitch of the singer has little to do with whether I like a band or not--although some are TOO high-pitched for my tastes to distract from the music itself. The "Mickey Mouse on Helium" pitch just doesn't do much for me--and I'll put early Perry in that category. I can hit a high note, but I'd prefer the singer not to make the dogs start howling in pain--as opposed to my attempts. Give me someone who sings within their range and has soul and feeling. Range can help, but is certainly not required for a good vocal. And as far as "soaring tenor vocalists" go for describing my favorite vocalists, anybody who uses that term to describe Jimmy Barnes needs their hearing checked. I've also heard "angle grinder" to describe his voice, and I'd easily go for that before "soaring tenor".

Generally speaking, I'm easy to please for music. Give me a good singer, good melody and good lyrics (ie not all songs about getting drunk and looking for girls--there are much better subjects for lyrical depth). Pretty simple. As I said, I'd go mad if I had to listen to the same style over and over and over and over and... Variety is everything, but for some reason, most people pick one style and never vary. There's a lot of good stuff out there if you only open your ears and give it a chance.

[Rockindeano]

haven't heard it, and honestly, don't plan to. I bought the albums once. I doubt I'll buy them again, so unless somebody wants to give them to me as a present, I doubt I'll hear them.

That's why Bruce said himself he won't do remasters. It's just a money grab and it's bullshit to the fans. There's a big difference with Bruce and band vs. Journey. Two different animals with vast different ideologies and think tanks. Landau vs Azoff. The differences are glaring. Not talking musicianship here people. Talking about business decisions and etiquette.

kgdjpubs, you are a helluva poster dude. You teach me a lot of shit. Thanks

[Red13JoePa]

That's why Bruce said himself he won't do remasters. It's just a money grab and it's bullshit to the fans. There's a big difference with Bruce and band vs. Journey. Two different animals with vast different ideologies and think tanks. Landau vs Azoff. The differences are glaring. Not talking musicianship here people. Talking about business decisions and etiquette.

Well Dean, from all indications, perry spearheaded the remastering the catalogue in 06.

[Rockindeano]

That's why Bruce said himself he won't do remasters. It's just a money grab and it's bullshit to the fans. There's a big difference with Bruce and band vs. Journey. Two different animals with vast different ideologies and think tanks. Landau vs Azoff. The differences are glaring. Not talking musicianship here people. Talking about business decisions and etiquette.

Well Dean, from all indications, perry spearheaded the remastering the catalogue in 06.

Yeah I know. The Band had to ok it though I presume. Still a money grab IMO. See, Bruce is anything bu an angel, bu Journey makes him look like a saint. Man, Azoff is just plain evil.

I do believe that the Ticketmaster merger is sill in doubt? Landau is fighting this for all his worth. Somebody has to.

[Ehwmatt]

That's why Bruce said himself he won't do remasters. It's just a money grab and it's bullshit to the fans. There's a big difference with Bruce and band vs. Journey. Two different animals with vast different ideologies and think tanks. Landau vs Azoff. The differences are glaring. Not talking musicianship here people. Talking about business decisions and etiquette.

Well Dean, from all indications, perry spearheaded the remastering the catalogue in 06.

Yeah I know. The Band had to ok it though I presume. Still a money grab IMO. See, Bruce is anything bu an angel, bu Journey makes him look like a saint. Man, Azoff is just plain evil.

I do believe that the Ticketmaster merger is sill in doubt? Landau is fighting this for all his worth. Somebody has to.

Unfortunately, the merger is not in doubt. It was completed last month. Fuck those scumbags

[kgdjpubs]

That's why Bruce said himself he won't do remasters. It's just a money grab and it's bullshit to the fans. There's a big difference with Bruce and band vs. Journey. Two different animals with vast different ideologies and think tanks. Landau vs Azoff. The differences are glaring. Not talking musicianship here people. Talking about business decisions and etiquette.

Well Dean, from all indications, perry spearheaded the remastering the catalogue in 06.

Yeah I know. The Band had to ok it though I presume. Still a money grab IMO.

I doubt the band had anything to do whatsoever with it--nor could they stop it. Unless they own the rights to the master recordings, Sony can do whatever it wants to with them. That's why you see so many bands bitterly complaining about repackaged albums. It's an easy money grab for the labels, and the bands are powerless to stop them.

[Red13JoePa]

To be fair, perry and his mastering engineer did a great job as did CP/Lora with the booklets, those 06 remasters are must haves. And I'm sure the band was more than OK w/ it.
After the FTLOSM debate in the p forum I discovered I couldn;t find the damn album (NEVER happens as if the house went up, the first thing I'd grab would be my music so I was bent), went to FYE and got it again.

[Michigan Girl]

To be fair, perry and his mastering engineer did a great job as did CP/Lora with the booklets, those 06 remasters are must haves. And I'm sure the band was more than OK w/ it.
After the FTLOSM debate in the p forum I discovered I couldn;t find the damn album (NEVER happens as if the house went up, the first thing I'd grab would be my music so I was bent), went to FYE and got it again.

[Carlitto H@kk]

Well, it's true. I think half of the music people on here listen to is shit. Dokken, Kiss, Europe, Winger, Chalfant, Danger Danger, all those shit bands...that's my opinion though. Hell almost everyone on here hates my bands, specifically Bruce and that's ok too. Hell, some people like Michael Jackson. I think the guy was a glorified walking tape machine who couldn't sing a lick live. I think he sucked and pales to Springsteen in the talent and performing category. People like Rhianna, and Pink. It's a matter of taste, that's all.

I'm know I'm jumping in here way late, but Deano, i had to comment on your
MJ reference.
I felt the same way until a few weeks ago when we bought the This Is It DVD
for our daughter Bella (she still asks about you, btw ). She loves the old MJ tunes.
Anyway, I watched it with her and was really surprised at how well MJ could actually
sing, "live", on-stage while dancing. There's no question the guy was straight up wierd
but his knowledge and "instinct" when it came to music, singing, stage presence were
uncanny. I gained a lot of respect for the guy after watching that DVD. Give it a try
if the old Red Box doesn't have anything better to rent

BTW, don't know how close El Centro, CA is to you guys but I'm gonna be there
10-15 March for an airshow... Any chance of seeing you?

[Rockindeano]

Well, it's true. I think half of the music people on here listen to is shit. Dokken, Kiss, Europe, Winger, Chalfant, Danger Danger, all those shit bands...that's my opinion though. Hell almost everyone on here hates my bands, specifically Bruce and that's ok too. Hell, some people like Michael Jackson. I think the guy was a glorified walking tape machine who couldn't sing a lick live. I think he sucked and pales to Springsteen in the talent and performing category. People like Rhianna, and Pink. It's a matter of taste, that's all.

I'm know I'm jumping in here way late, but Deano, i had to comment on your
MJ reference.
I felt the same way until a few weeks ago when we bought the This Is It DVD
for our daughter Bella (she still asks about you, btw ). She loves the old MJ tunes.
Anyway, I watched it with her and was really surprised at how well MJ could actually
sing, "live", on-stage while dancing. There's no question the guy was straight up wierd
but his knowledge and "instinct" when it came to music, singing, stage presence were
uncanny. I gained a lot of respect for the guy after watching that DVD. Give it a try
if the old Red Box doesn't have anything better to rent

BTW, don't know how close El Centro, CA is to you guys but I'm gonna be there
10-15 March for an airshow... Any chance of seeing you?

Hey Carl you old bloodhound!

El Centro is El Shithole. Seriously, place smells like a filthy toilet when you enter the city limits. It's about 4 hours from here. I just had surgery two days ago, so I can't do a damned thing right now. I am sorry, but will promise to catch a show in the near future.

Re: MJ- I was a fan when they were the Jackson 5! Dude, I have all the albums, or had them. I had Going Back o Indiana, Through the Looking Glass, Ben, all of them. I don't care how weird he is or whatever his fetish's were, I just don't hold him up with the greatest front men ever. The video sounds great and all, but you can't tell me he was going to pull off 50 live dates in London. Personally, I have a problem with singers not singing. That's just me I guess. it would be like me going to your airshows, where the greates pilots handle those planes, and finding out they were all on remote control or something of that nature. I just think that by fucking around with music, and not being genuine with your craft, is both deceiving and also pissing in the face of music, disrespecting the very thing that made you such a good living. That's what fueled me up so bad with Journey and Augeri. Such a great band at one time, basically mocked the entity of rock n roll and all that it it beholds. Trust me, if one of my favourite guys, let's say Bruce, were to ever lip sync, I would be crushed like I was Journey.

I will keep abreast of your Air shows and will be there for sure! Tell your daughter thanks for asking about me.

[Deb]

Well, it's true. I think half of the music people on here listen to is shit. Dokken, Kiss, Europe, Winger, Chalfant, Danger Danger, all those shit bands...that's my opinion though. Hell almost everyone on here hates my bands, specifically Bruce and that's ok too. Hell, some people like Michael Jackson. I think the guy was a glorified walking tape machine who couldn't sing a lick live. I think he sucked and pales to Springsteen in the talent and performing category. People like Rhianna, and Pink. It's a matter of taste, that's all.

Wow, not one mention of Mr Big in there. Thanks......

[X factor]

What about Born in the USA - that counts doesn't it?

Fuck Fay, that album has sold 24 million copies. It's about time they put it on clearance don't you think?

When are albums like that and Tunnel Of Love gonna get the remaster treatment?
I would think if done properly you could some REAL pickup on both albums.

I like much of HT and LT, too. Tom Joad's even decent in spots.

He said he will never do a remaster. How are you going to improve Tunnel of Love? Outstanding record the way it is. Instead, he is releasing a three disc live album. It's a true actual live record of one show. Running time is 3'24", 32 song set list. I believe it's the Philadelphia show that I invited you to, and you declined. Shithead. I flew 6 hours o get here and you couldn't make the 25 minute drive down to the Spectrum. I am still heated about that.

Deano, when is he releasing this live album? Can't wait to pick that up (though I have so many of his old great bootlegs, andI doubt if anything will ever match up to the intensity of those late 70's shows! )
I have to say, though,.that as craptastic as HUMAN / TOWN is , I'd rather hear it that WOAD. I just can't groove to that record at all. And TOM JOAD? As one friend put it, listening to that album is "like doing homework", Just don't get it. 2 great songs, the rest is unlistenable. And I'm as big a Boss fan as they come!

[Rockindeano]

What about Born in the USA - that counts doesn't it?

Fuck Fay, that album has sold 24 million copies. It's about time they put it on clearance don't you think?

When are albums like that and Tunnel Of Love gonna get the remaster treatment?
I would think if done properly you could some REAL pickup on both albums.

I like much of HT and LT, too. Tom Joad's even decent in spots.

He said he will never do a remaster. How are you going to improve Tunnel of Love? Outstanding record the way it is. Instead, he is releasing a three disc live album. It's a true actual live record of one show. Running time is 3'24", 32 song set list. I believe it's the Philadelphia show that I invited you to, and you declined. Shithead. I flew 6 hours o get here and you couldn't make the 25 minute drive down to the Spectrum. I am still heated about that.

Deano, when is he releasing this live album? Can't wait to pick that up (though I have so many of his old great bootlegs, andI doubt if anything will ever match up to the intensity of those late 70's shows! )
I have to say, though,.that as craptastic as HUMAN / TOWN is , I'd rather hear it that WOAD. I just can't groove to that record at all. And TOM JOAD? As one friend put it, listening to that album is "like doing homework", Just don't get it. 2 great songs, the rest is unlistenable. And I'm as big a Boss fan as they come!

Tom Joad was a concept album was it not? Like Nebraska was. There is a message being told. It's not a compilation of greatest hits or pop songs. Nebraska was a dark serious album. People hated it of loved it. The Rising was a special album. Conceptual in that it was about 9/11 and it also contained some great timeless songs.

As for WOAD, it did have the rock song of the year at the Grammy's.

[Don]

Sade sold 500,000 to debut at #1 this week. A lot of fans out there I guess. Was this album promoted at all? She hadn't released anything in ten years but it seems people knew this was coming out.

[Rockindeano]

Sade sold 500,000 to debut at #1 this week. A lot of fans out there I guess. Was this album promoted at all? She hadn't released anything in ten years but it seems people knew this was coming out.

Who would have thunk this eh? That's a lot of sales for a mid range star.

[RossValoryRocks]

Sade sold 500,000 to debut at #1 this week. A lot of fans out there I guess. Was this album promoted at all? She hadn't released anything in ten years but it seems people knew this was coming out.

That's because she's a "Smooth Operator"...

[Deb]

Sade sold 500,000 to debut at #1 this week. A lot of fans out there I guess. Was this album promoted at all? She hadn't released anything in ten years but it seems people knew this was coming out.

That's because she's a "Smooth Operator"...

Zing!

[wastingbeerz]

Iron Maiden - "untitled fifteenth album"
Alter Bridge III
Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Mojo
Scorpions - Sting in the Tail
Peter Gabriel - Scratch My Back
Ozzy Osbourne "the album formerly known as Soul Sucka"

That's all for now... I'm sure there are some that I forgot.

[Jana]

I don't know. But Lada Gaga's debut album has just hit Diamond. She has sold slightly over 10,000,000.

[ProgRocker53]

I still have a TON of albums from every other year previous this one to catch up on.. ugh. so much great music out there, so little time, so little money.

Going off the Wikipedia 2010 Releases page, I'm listing every one I'd want to listen to:

Transference- Spoon
Sting in the Tail- Scorpions
Songs of Ascent- U2
Alter Bridge III
Untitled- The Black Keys
Year of the Black Rainbow- Coheed & Cambria
Untitled- Anberlin
Untitled- Coldplay
Untitled- Deep Purple
Untitled- Disturbed
Omega- Asia
Detox- Dr. Dre
Untitled- Incubus
Untitled- Interpol
Untitled- Iron Maiden
Untitled- Judas Priest
No Better Than This- John Mellencamp
Untitled- Kanye West
Untitled- Kings of Leon
Hang Cool, Teddy Bear- Meat Loaf
Untitled- Radiohead
Untitled- Red Hot Chili Peppers
Untitled- Shinedown
Untitled- Stone Temple Pilots
Mojo- Tom Petty
Untitled- Tool
Untitled- Van Halen

[Triple S]

Bonrud (hoping it's 2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GRgozHZWg

[wastingbeerz]

I don't know. But Lada Gaga's debut album has just hit Diamond. She has sold slightly over 10,000,000.

Ugh. So so SO many artists that are 10,000,000 times better and struggling selling a few thousand, and this run of the mill "oooh look how crazy I am because I wear funny costumes" pop tart sells 10,000,000? Severely disappointed in the current state of music.

[ProgRocker53]

I don't know. But Lada Gaga's debut album has just hit Diamond. She has sold slightly over 10,000,000.

Ugh. So so SO many artists that are 10,000,000 times better and struggling selling a few thousand, and this run of the mill "oooh look how crazy I am because I wear funny costumes" pop tart sells 10,000,000? Severely disappointed in the current state of music.

Agreed. GaGa's somewhat decent (when compared to many other pop artists) but her "look at how edgy and random I am" schtick is getting old. Also, The Fame Monster is INCREDIBLY weak compared to her first album... I doubt that she will have very much longevity.

[ProgRocker53]

Bonrud (hoping it's 2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GRgozHZWg

I LOVE BONRUD

[Triple S]

Bonrud (hoping it's 2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GRgozHZWg

I LOVE BONRUD

Likewise - from the comments section in YT (that's me asking), sounds like he's working on 2 albums!

[wastingbeerz]

I don't know. But Lada Gaga's debut album has just hit Diamond. She has sold slightly over 10,000,000.

Ugh. So so SO many artists that are 10,000,000 times better and struggling selling a few thousand, and this run of the mill "oooh look how crazy I am because I wear funny costumes" pop tart sells 10,000,000? Severely disappointed in the current state of music.

Agreed. GaGa's somewhat decent (when compared to many other pop artists) but her "look at how edgy and random I am" schtick is getting old. Also, The Fame Monster is INCREDIBLY weak compared to her first album... I doubt that she will have very much longevity.

I dunno, when I first heard Lady Gaga, it was like awful somehow got a new meaning. Seriously, some of the worst excuse for music I've ever heard, and people are jumping on the Lady (Dude?) Gaga bandwagon left and right. I really don't get it. And she (he?) stole the vocal melody in "Poker Face" from McAuley Schenker Group's "Anytime".

[Ehwmatt]

I don't know. But Lada Gaga's debut album has just hit Diamond. She has sold slightly over 10,000,000.

Ugh. So so SO many artists that are 10,000,000 times better and struggling selling a few thousand, and this run of the mill "oooh look how crazy I am because I wear funny costumes" pop tart sells 10,000,000? Severely disappointed in the current state of music.

Agreed. GaGa's somewhat decent (when compared to many other pop artists) but her "look at how edgy and random I am" schtick is getting old. Also, The Fame Monster is INCREDIBLY weak compared to her first album... I doubt that she will have very much longevity.

I dunno, when I first heard Lady Gaga, it was like awful somehow got a new meaning. Seriously, some of the worst excuse for music I've ever heard, and people are jumping on the Lady (Dude?) Gaga bandwagon left and right. I really don't get it. And she (he?) stole the vocal melody in "Poker Face" from McAuley Schenker Group's "Anytime".

I don't get it either - how is it any different from the other dance-pop crap they foist on us? I don't see a difference at all. Terrible all around.

[wastingbeerz]

I don't know. But Lada Gaga's debut album has just hit Diamond. She has sold slightly over 10,000,000.

Ugh. So so SO many artists that are 10,000,000 times better and struggling selling a few thousand, and this run of the mill "oooh look how crazy I am because I wear funny costumes" pop tart sells 10,000,000? Severely disappointed in the current state of music.

Agreed. GaGa's somewhat decent (when compared to many other pop artists) but her "look at how edgy and random I am" schtick is getting old. Also, The Fame Monster is INCREDIBLY weak compared to her first album... I doubt that she will have very much longevity.

I dunno, when I first heard Lady Gaga, it was like awful somehow got a new meaning. Seriously, some of the worst excuse for music I've ever heard, and people are jumping on the Lady (Dude?) Gaga bandwagon left and right. I really don't get it. And she (he?) stole the vocal melody in "Poker Face" from McAuley Schenker Group's "Anytime".

I don't get it either - how is it any different from the other dance-pop crap they foist on us? I don't see a difference at all. Terrible all around.

That's the big joke... it's not ANY different. People are being convinced that it's this new revolutionary thing somehow. Subliminal messages, maybe?