My year end Thank you to the President and Congress

[The Sushi Hunter]

So, thanks to whoever is to blame, for whoring out our industries and jobs to other countries.

Yeah, and Al Gore just sold out to a foreign country as well. Read where all the greenies working for his company in San Fran are pissed cause they now are owned by a Saudi oil company or something like that. Hahahahaha!

[slucero]

So, thanks to whoever is to blame, for whoring out our industries and jobs to other countries.

That would be Congress starting in the 70's.

[Monker]

And this is why Obama gets away with actions like this. The government dictating that you have to purchase healthcare insurance and controlling the health care system is a socialistic program. As opposed to letting the citizen choose if they want to purchase it and letting the free market insurance companies control the health care industry. Sure some would claim it isn't. If you take their viewpoints it makes China look like a Democratic Society.

This is like arguing with a child.

If it were socialism, government would own the insurance companies. Even the public option was removed. It's not socialism. Get over it.

The mandate has nothing to do with socialism, but basic insurance facts. The more people in a program the less it costs. The fact is that it was originally proposed by REPUBLICANS decades ago for this very reason. If you want to keep the cost of insurance down - that's how you do it.

Just love how you down play something that came straight form the horse's or jackass' mouth. Guess you missed the whole raising taxes on the wealthy thing that just happened.

Which had nothing to do with "redistribution" but with the "fiscal cliff" and attempting to come up with a compromise that cut the budget in a realistic way.

Sure none of that revenue is not going go into the entitlement programs which keep growing and Obama does not seem to be too concerned about that. In fact, if he was he would not have removed the requirement to prove you are looking for work on the entitlement programs.

You're such whiner. CONGRESS still has to come up with a compromise for budget cuts. It will happen.

Mmm, sorry I don't think so. He will find a way to complete his vision or should I say his alcoholic, deadbeat, lying father's vision on how the world should be.

LOL...so full of angst.

When it doesn't happen, you'll still be full of angst, and other things, and be spouting off excuses as to why your prophesies were false.

[Monker]

A Ponzi scheme? That is just way exaggerating. I

Great, now ask the federal government to show you that the money is actually there instead of a bunch of IOUs. The only thing that keeps it from being deemed as a Ponzi scheme is that it is our government operating it and they just so happen to own the presses that prints our money.

This is about Social Security. Social Security is NOT an investment you are buying. Therefore, by its very nature it can't be a Ponzi scheme. What is taken out of your check pays for current retirees. That NOT a Ponzi scheme. It's, well, a TAX. Should not be so difficult to understand how the senior welfare system works.

[Boomchild]

If it were socialism, government would own the insurance companies. Even the public option was removed. It's not socialism. Get over it.

The mandate has nothing to do with socialism, but basic insurance facts. The more people in a program the less it costs. The fact is that it was originally proposed by REPUBLICANS decades ago for this very reason. If you want to keep the cost of insurance down - that's how you do it.

When a government forces you or businesses to buy health insurance that is a government DICTATING AND FORCING you to buy something. Just because more people will be forced to buy it doesn't mean that it will cost less. Because some of those still won't be able to afford it requiring someone else to make up for that.

Which had nothing to do with "redistribution" but with the "fiscal cliff" and attempting to come up with a compromise that cut the budget in a realistic way.

To which this additional money will by no doubt go into existing and expanded social programs. Which is redistribution.

You're such whiner. CONGRESS still has to come up with a compromise for budget cuts. It will happen.

Congress compromising is a fucking joke. Those that oppose Obama's reckless spending an bloated social programs don't have the backbone to fight it. Therefore Obama will basically get what he wants in the end. It's all a dog and pony show.

LOL...so full of angst.

When it doesn't happen, you'll still be full of angst, and other things, and be spouting off excuses as to why your prophesies were false.

Sorry but I am not drinking the Obama bathwater. One thing that is for sure is we are going down the tubes with Obama's "leadership" if you can call it that.

[Boomchild]

A Ponzi scheme? That is just way exaggerating. I

Great, now ask the federal government to show you that the money is actually there instead of a bunch of IOUs. The only thing that keeps it from being deemed as a Ponzi scheme is that it is our government operating it and they just so happen to own the presses that prints our money.

This is about Social Security. Social Security is NOT an investment you are buying. Therefore, by its very nature it can't be a Ponzi scheme. What is taken out of your check pays for current retirees. That NOT a Ponzi scheme. It's, well, a TAX. Should not be so difficult to understand how the senior welfare system works.

It's a government plan that by collecting taxes for the SS fund it promises that in turn you will receive benefits when\if you reach age of retirement. The SS fund is empty because the money is being used for other things as well has been expanded to include other programs such as welfare and SSD for which SS was not designed for. It is a PONZI Scheme because the government can not show that the taxes are actually going directly to fund the program. Hence all the IOUs it's stuffed with.

[Monker]

When a government forces you or businesses to buy health insurance that is a government DICTATING AND FORCING you to buy something. Just because more people will be forced to buy it doesn't mean that it will cost less. Because some of those still won't be able to afford it requiring someone else to make up for that.

So what? None this equates to socialism.

It is a basic insurance rule that the more people who participate, the less it costs for everybody....that is a fact.

It is also a fact that those who can not afford insurance go to emergency care which drives the cost up for everybody. So, having them use preventative care will also bring costs down - and you are already paying for their care cuz they don't pay for those emergency room visits.

Which had nothing to do with "redistribution" but with the "fiscal cliff" and attempting to come up with a compromise that cut the budget in a realistic way.

To which this additional money will by no doubt go into existing and expanded social programs. Which is redistribution.

Yes, there is doubt. First that is your opinion. Second, CONGRESS, has to make additional cuts...and you do NOT know what they will be.

Congress compromising is a fucking joke. Those that oppose Obama's reckless spending an bloated social programs don't have the backbone to fight it. Therefore Obama will basically get what he wants in the end. It's all a dog and pony show.

Republicans do not have a choice. They lost, and they lost decisively. And, they have already compromised some by doing the tax increase. So, you are simply wrong. The politics of obstruction lost the presidency....and they know it.

Sorry but I am not drinking the Obama bathwater. One thing that is for sure is we are going down the tubes with Obama's "leadership" if you can call it that.

Of course not...you drink FOX/Beck/Limbaugh/Haniity/etc...bathwater and then puke it back out with your posts.

Sorry, we were down the tubes and in the sewer under W's leadership...we are only now starting to get back out. (cue for Slu to post a bunch of graphs to show why that's not true, LOL)

[slucero]

I would post some facts for ya .. like the graph that blew your "boomers are retiring not getting jobs" hypothesis out of the water.. but it would be pointless.

Since you don't understand economics, the bond markets, the difference between money and currency, real and perceived value, demographics, yada, yada... and instead choose to simply believe the in the nominal nature of what you watch on CNBC, without regard to the well known and proven facts that the underlying fundamentals and measurement methodologies are horribly skewed.

We are witnessing the world’s largest peacetime accumulation of debt in world history (from $80T to over $240T within the last 10 years) and in every occurrence of this in world history, this always ends one way.

War.

That is because war is the equivalent of economic entropy, and current global debt is over 340% of global GDP. This is unsustainable, and will eventually undermine the veracity of fiat currencies, and the solvency of indebted nations. Result: social and regional unrest, nations returning to old alliances and old idealism.

But like I said.. it's pointless to tell you this. You prefer chewing sand.

[Boomchild]

So what? None this equates to socialism.

Sorry I forgot you have no issue with the government dictating and forcing you to do something that goes against what our constitutional rights stand for. Sorry, making everybody buy health care is a socialistic act.

Republicans do not have a choice. They lost, and they lost decisively. And, they have already compromised some by doing the tax increase. So, you are simply wrong. The politics of obstruction lost the presidency....and they know it.

Republicans, Democrats are all a fucking joke at this point. Their more interested in staying in their positions of power then what is good and right for this country.

Of course not...you drink FOX/Beck/Limbaugh/Haniity/etc...bathwater and then puke it back out with your posts.

Sorry, we were down the tubes and in the sewer under W's leadership...we are only now starting to get back out. (cue for Slu to post a bunch of graphs to show why that's not true, LOL)

Get back out? . What a fucking joke. This supposed "recovery" if you can call it that is the worst in history. Never said that Obama started the problem. He didn't. He's just driving the bus faster down the same road to our downfall. BTW, your misinformed I do not listen to or watch the programs or persons you listed. You just assume so.

[Monker]

Sorry I forgot you have no issue with the government dictating and forcing you to do something that goes against what our constitutional rights stand for. Sorry, making everybody buy health care is a socialistic act.

You are just simply ignorant to what Socialism is and are wrong. Obamacare is absolutely NOT Socialism since it relies on private industry to provide insurance.

If Obamacare ended the private health insurance industry and forced you to buy health insurance through the government - that is socialism.

Social Security is socialism.
The US Postal service is socialism.
Even things like public schools or the public water works are socialism.

Socialism has been a part of this nation almost since it was founded...you would think people like you would know what it is.

Obamacare is a LIBERAL law...ie: liberal in government control and regulations. It is NOT socialism. My God, when leaders of the Socialist party of the US say it isn't, I would be a bit more restrained in spouting that opinion.

Republicans, Democrats are all a fucking joke at this point. Their more interested in staying in their positions of power then what is good and right for this country.

And, that is exactly why Republicans have been forced to compromise...they want to win the presidency at some point...and they do want to keep what power in congress that they have. That will not happen with the direction they were headed the past four years...being uncompromising assholes.

Of course not...you drink FOX/Beck/Limbaugh/Haniity/etc...bathwater and then puke it back out with your posts.

Sorry, we were down the tubes and in the sewer under W's leadership...we are only now starting to get back out. (cue for Slu to post a bunch of graphs to show why that's not true, LOL)

Get back out? . What a fucking joke. This supposed "recovery" if you can call it that is the worst in history. [/quote]

After the second worst economic disaster in world history...it's not as bad as all that...since Obama narrowly avoided it being the WORST. If W. had a third term as President, I think it would have been the worst, easily.

Never said that Obama started the problem. He didn't. He's just driving the bus faster down the same road to our downfall.

Yeah, by saving the financial industry, saving the motor industry and stopping the economic free fall that McCain said "the fundamentals of the economy are sound." He's not driving down the same path as W. W's answer would be a tax cut sometime last year with early rebates in the mail to gain more votes.

BTW, when that shit happened, no conservative on these forums (well, actually BT's Watercooler...but you don't know what that is) complained that it was irresponsible and politically motivated.

You are just living in Obama-hatred land when you post we are heading down the same path as W led us. It is simply factually incorrect.

BTW, your misinformed I do not listen to or watch the programs or persons you listed. You just assume so.

You still spew the same puke...right down to the Hitler and socialism references - which are unfounded bullshit. You are a subscriber to their political religion...even if you do not directly listen, you still hear and repeat their words.

[steveo777]

BTW, how is Barry doing with removing presidential term limits? You know he's trying. A $500k per year goverment job is not going to be let go of easily.

[Boomchild]

You still spew the same puke...right down to the Hitler and socialism references - which are unfounded bullshit. You are a subscriber to their political religion...even if you do not directly listen, you still hear and repeat their words.

The recovery is all a pipe dream. The same financial problems lie underneath it all. All that has been done is delay the downfall. Dictating that you must buy health insurance is social program and the private insurance part of it will fall apart. Say what you will but you will never convince me that Obama is the right person and that his intentions are not to gain more power and tear down the democracy will now have. He got this idea from the people that surrounded him such as Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers as well as believing in his drunken, deadbeat father's political ideals.

[slucero]

You still spew the same puke...right down to the Hitler and socialism references - which are unfounded bullshit. You are a subscriber to their political religion...even if you do not directly listen, you still hear and repeat their words.

The recovery is all a pipe dream. The same financial problems lie underneath it all. All that has been done is delay the downfall. Dictating that you must buy health insurance is social program and the private insurance part of it will fall apart. Say what you will but you will never convince me that Obama is the right person and that his intentions are not to gain more power and tear down the democracy will now have. He got this idea from the people that surrounded him such as Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers as well as believing in his drunken, deadbeat father's political ideals.

We are not a democracy.The U.S.A. is a republic. And it is not semantics to say it does not matter.

The word democracy is not used in any of the founding documents. It is not in the Declaration of Independence, nor is it in the Constitution. You will also not find it in the Pledge of Allegiance. And for good reason. The Founders and Framers HATED the word democracy.. because as a form of government it means essentially "mob rule".. where only the majority has a voice... where areas in a republic the minority voice is protected. In their time they witnessed this happen in France with France going from monarchy, to democracy.. and ultimately mob rule and outright civil war. Mob rule indeed.

Our system of justice requires a person on trial be unanimously convicted. It is a Republic that protects the minority opinion, and voice. In a democracy the majority would always rule, and those in the minority would find their opinion and voice rendered moot..

We have come to use the word "democracy" as a word used to describe our society, but have also completely pluralized the meaning of that would to the point that Americans have a very fucked up understanding of what type of government we have versus the type of society we live in.. and more importantly WHY.

Take the time to learn why you should not refer to the country as a democracy, and how dangerous it is to think that way.. and you never will again.

[Boomchild]

You still spew the same puke...right down to the Hitler and socialism references - which are unfounded bullshit. You are a subscriber to their political religion...even if you do not directly listen, you still hear and repeat their words.

The recovery is all a pipe dream. The same financial problems lie underneath it all. All that has been done is delay the downfall. Dictating that you must buy health insurance is social program and the private insurance part of it will fall apart. Say what you will but you will never convince me that Obama is the right person and that his intentions are not to gain more power and tear down the democracy will now have. He got this idea from the people that surrounded him such as Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers as well as believing in his drunken, deadbeat father's political ideals.

We are not a democracy.The U.S.A. is a republic. And it is not semantics to say it does not matter.

The word democracy is not used in any of the founding documents. It is not in the Declaration of Independence, nor is it in the Constitution. You will also not find it in the Pledge of Allegiance. And for good reason. The Founders and Framers HATED the word democracy.. because as a form of government it means essentially "mob rule".. where only the majority has a voice... where areas in a republic the minority voice is protected. In their time they witnessed this happen in France with France going from monarchy, to democracy.. and ultimately mob rule and outright civil war. Mob rule indeed.

Our system of justice requires a person on trial be unanimously convicted. It is a Republic that protects the minority opinion, and voice. In a democracy the majority would always rule, and those in the minority would find their opinion and voice rendered moot..

We have come to use the word "democracy" as a word used to describe our society, but have also completely pluralized the meaning of that would to the point that Americans have a very fucked up understanding of what type of government we have versus the type of society we live in.. and more importantly WHY.

Take the time to learn why you should not refer to the country as a democracy, and how dangerous it is to think that way.. and you never will again.

I believe very soon whether you use the term democracy or republic to describe our country it won't matter. Because based on were we are headed it won't exist.

[slucero]

You still spew the same puke...right down to the Hitler and socialism references - which are unfounded bullshit. You are a subscriber to their political religion...even if you do not directly listen, you still hear and repeat their words.

The recovery is all a pipe dream. The same financial problems lie underneath it all. All that has been done is delay the downfall. Dictating that you must buy health insurance is social program and the private insurance part of it will fall apart. Say what you will but you will never convince me that Obama is the right person and that his intentions are not to gain more power and tear down the democracy will now have. He got this idea from the people that surrounded him such as Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers as well as believing in his drunken, deadbeat father's political ideals.

We are not a democracy.The U.S.A. is a republic. And it is not semantics to say it does not matter.

The word democracy is not used in any of the founding documents. It is not in the Declaration of Independence, nor is it in the Constitution. You will also not find it in the Pledge of Allegiance. And for good reason. The Founders and Framers HATED the word democracy.. because as a form of government it means essentially "mob rule".. where only the majority has a voice... where areas in a republic the minority voice is protected. In their time they witnessed this happen in France with France going from monarchy, to democracy.. and ultimately mob rule and outright civil war. Mob rule indeed.

Our system of justice requires a person on trial be unanimously convicted. It is a Republic that protects the minority opinion, and voice. In a democracy the majority would always rule, and those in the minority would find their opinion and voice rendered moot..

We have come to use the word "democracy" as a word used to describe our society, but have also completely pluralized the meaning of that would to the point that Americans have a very fucked up understanding of what type of government we have versus the type of society we live in.. and more importantly WHY.

Take the time to learn why you should not refer to the country as a democracy, and how dangerous it is to think that way.. and you never will again.

I believe very soon whether you use the term democracy or republic to describe our country it won't matter. Because based on were we are headed it won't exist.

Not disagreeing with you that what you say is true.. But it WILL matter... and you should still be armed with the knowledge to correct those who do not know. It's basic Civics (that is no longer taught)

[steveo777]

The new Obama care (Obama Tax) has been stolen from my paycheck and given to others, the same ones who also have Obama Phones. That was the amount of a month's worth of date nights budget for the wife and I. We pay for our medical insurance which is deducted from our payroll checks. I don't go to work every day and work my ass off to feed the lazy and illegals. I've worked my ass off since I left home at 17. Nobody ever gave me anything, nor did I ask anyone to.

The following video kind of helps sum up what is happening in America and apparently we have a president who feels a need to take care of this culture. And before anyone goes off on me, calls me a racist, etc., I'll have you know I do not have anything against a person because of the color of their skin. It just seems I have a problem with the kind of culture that re-generates this kind of expectation that "the government needs to take care of me".

Here is the example and I'm sure there are many more like this:

Black woman expects government to take care of her 15 kids........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0QBD6CXgdo

Hello.....Close your fucking legs!!!

[Boomchild]

The new Obama care (Obama Tax) has been stolen from my paycheck and given to others, the same ones who also have Obama Phones. That was the amount of a month's worth of date nights budget for the wife and I. We pay for our medical insurance which is deducted from our payroll checks. I don't go to work every day and work my ass off to feed the lazy and illegals. I've worked my ass off since I left home at 17. Nobody ever gave me anything, nor did I ask anyone to.

The following video kind of helps sum up what is happening in America and apparently we have a president who feels a need to take care of this culture. And before anyone goes off on me, calls me a racist, etc., I'll have you know I do not have anything against a person because of the color of their skin. It just seems I have a problem with the kind of culture that re-generates this kind of expectation that "the government needs to take care of me".

Here is the example and I'm sure there are many more like this:

Black woman expects government to take care of her 15 kids........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0QBD6CXgdo

Hello.....Close your fucking legs!!!

I've seen that video. The mentality of people who think it's the government's job to provide for the children they give birth to is sickening. We as as a culture have come up with so many excuses for it. If the government is going to provide this support then they should do it for the amount of children the person has at the time they apply and not increase it when they have more. Make it a one shot deal and having more children doesn't equal a bigger support check. If they cannot provide on what they were given then take the children away from them and place them with people who can. But until our culture changes we will be faced with this problem.

[Memorex]

BTW, how is Barry doing with removing presidential term limits? You know he's trying. A $500k per year goverment job is not going to be let go of easily.

I have a problem with the sanity of any person that would want to be president these days. Two terms? Nutty. No way would any sane individual want 3 terms in this day and age. And besides, he could make a lot more money than $500k outside the presidency anyway.

I think it should a single 6 or 8 year term. That's it. Then they would not have to campaign so much.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Maybe a year ago there was this study done where it was said that from the time a woman gets prego to the time the kid is 18 years old, the costs incurred for that kid is over $200,000. That's for each child. So if this is accurate, how is it that so many kids born to illigals and jobless individuals in America are supported? The US Government is redirectling tax payers funds for all of this. Since the US Government is redirecting such funds for such programs, they write and enforce the rules on who qualifies for these types of assistance.

So.....if there is a country set up like America, everyone would flock to it for the handouts at the expense of the legal citizens of that country. That's why America is being flooded with illigals and people who don't feel that they have to work. And what happens when a guy wants to come in and fix this issue? The masses come in and say the guy wants poor people to die and shit like that. We saw it last election.

Now take a look at Al Gore and think how close he came to being president of the US and look at what he's done lately with his failed tv station. He sold the station to Al Jazeera who were televising the beheadings of civilian American's in the middle east. So now Al Jazeera has business inside America. Al Jazeera is also on the side of terrorist groups. Al Fucking Gore! Just imagine what that fucker would have done to this country had he been handed the keys to it in 2000.

[Boomchild]

Now take a look at Al Gore and think how close he came to being president of the US and look at what he's done lately with his failed tv station. He sold the station to Al Jazeera who were televising the beheadings of civilian American's in the middle east. So now Al Jazeera has business inside America. Al Jazeera is also on the side of terrorist groups. Al Fucking Gore! Just imagine what that fucker would have done to this country had he been handed the keys to it in 2000.

This should not come to a surprise to anyone. These days all politicians are only in it for what they personally can get out of it. Gone is the integrity of the offices and positions they hold. They have and will sell this country down the river if it rewards them personally. Al Gore was a phony from the get go. His motivation for protecting the environment was strictly based on the personal profits he would gain from investing in the "green businesses" spawned from the global warming hot button. He was spouting off on how the more fortunate should pay more in taxes and then was scrambling to sell off his TV channel before the new tax rates took effect. The irony of it is that he sold it to an organization that is steeped fossil fuel. Where was his environmental compass then??

[conversationpc]

We are not a democracy.The U.S.A. is a republic. And it is not semantics to say it does not matter.

The word democracy is not used in any of the founding documents. It is not in the Declaration of Independence, nor is it in the Constitution. You will also not find it in the Pledge of Allegiance. And for good reason. The Founders and Framers HATED the word democracy.. because as a form of government it means essentially "mob rule".. where only the majority has a voice... where areas in a republic the minority voice is protected. In their time they witnessed this happen in France with France going from monarchy, to democracy.. and ultimately mob rule and outright civil war. Mob rule indeed.

Our system of justice requires a person on trial be unanimously convicted. It is a Republic that protects the minority opinion, and voice. In a democracy the majority would always rule, and those in the minority would find their opinion and voice rendered moot..

We have come to use the word "democracy" as a word used to describe our society, but have also completely pluralized the meaning of that would to the point that Americans have a very fucked up understanding of what type of government we have versus the type of society we live in.. and more importantly WHY.

Take the time to learn why you should not refer to the country as a democracy, and how dangerous it is to think that way.. and you never will again.

A-FREAKING-MEN!

[Rick]

We are not a democracy.The U.S.A. is a republic. And it is not semantics to say it does not matter.

The word democracy is not used in any of the founding documents. It is not in the Declaration of Independence, nor is it in the Constitution. You will also not find it in the Pledge of Allegiance. And for good reason. The Founders and Framers HATED the word democracy.. because as a form of government it means essentially "mob rule".. where only the majority has a voice... where areas in a republic the minority voice is protected. In their time they witnessed this happen in France with France going from monarchy, to democracy.. and ultimately mob rule and outright civil war. Mob rule indeed.

Our system of justice requires a person on trial be unanimously convicted. It is a Republic that protects the minority opinion, and voice. In a democracy the majority would always rule, and those in the minority would find their opinion and voice rendered moot..

We have come to use the word "democracy" as a word used to describe our society, but have also completely pluralized the meaning of that would to the point that Americans have a very fucked up understanding of what type of government we have versus the type of society we live in.. and more importantly WHY.

Take the time to learn why you should not refer to the country as a democracy, and how dangerous it is to think that way.. and you never will again.

A-FREAKING-MEN!

republic
 
re·pub·lic
[ri-puhb-lik]
noun
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.

Sounds dead on.

[slucero]

We are not a democracy.The U.S.A. is a republic. And it is not semantics to say it does not matter.

The word democracy is not used in any of the founding documents. It is not in the Declaration of Independence, nor is it in the Constitution. You will also not find it in the Pledge of Allegiance. And for good reason. The Founders and Framers HATED the word democracy.. because as a form of government it means essentially "mob rule".. where only the majority has a voice... where areas in a republic the minority voice is protected. In their time they witnessed this happen in France with France going from monarchy, to democracy.. and ultimately mob rule and outright civil war. Mob rule indeed.

Our system of justice requires a person on trial be unanimously convicted. It is a Republic that protects the minority opinion, and voice. In a democracy the majority would always rule, and those in the minority would find their opinion and voice rendered moot..

We have come to use the word "democracy" as a word used to describe our society, but have also completely pluralized the meaning of that would to the point that Americans have a very fucked up understanding of what type of government we have versus the type of society we live in.. and more importantly WHY.

Take the time to learn why you should not refer to the country as a democracy, and how dangerous it is to think that way.. and you never will again.

A-FREAKING-MEN!

republic
 
re·pub·lic
[ri-puhb-lik]
noun
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.

Sounds dead on.

contrast that with this..

Definition of DEMOCRACY
1
a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority