Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[YoungJRNY]

LEXCORP! Finally, the Lex Luthor that is LONG overdue to see onscreen and not just some land obbessive widow banger:

[verslibre]

^^Sweet!!^^

[RedWingFan]

Looks like a new and used car dealership with a service bay in the middle.

[verslibre]

TIME TO PAY UP, TNC!!!

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May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

PayPal, right?

[RedWingFan]

TIME TO PAY UP, TNC!!!

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May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

PayPal, right?

Wait! I thought B v. S was MOS2?

[The_Noble_Cause]

TIME TO PAY UP, TNC!!!

Check it out: http://nikkifinke.com/comic-con/

May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

PayPal, right?

Don't hold your breath. Add it to the long list of comic sequels that never materialized including Green Lantern 2.

AintItCoolNews had a pretty accurate write-up today - "Zack Snyder's MAN OF STEEL grossed $688 million worldwide, which, for most movies, would be a healthy, franchise-launching haul. But for a film with a reported (i.e. bullshit) budget of $225 million (it was much closer to $300 million, if not over), that's barely break-even; when you factor in the massive marketing budget and the fact that half of the gross goes to the exhibitors, it would be entirely accurate to call MAN OF STEEL a box office disappointment."

Like I said, ain't happening.

[YoungJRNY]

TIME TO PAY UP, TNC!!!

Check it out: http://nikkifinke.com/comic-con/

May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

PayPal, right?

Wait! I thought B v. S was MOS2?

It is. They are just saying another Superman solo film is coming with the Man of Steel franchise. BvS is the sequel to Man of Steel, but there will be another solo Superman film in the Man of Steel line, which will be a true solo sequel directly for Superman and only Superman, as I expected. Can't wait to be $50 richer when the announcement comes in July.

[YoungJRNY]

TIME TO PAY UP, TNC!!!

Check it out: http://nikkifinke.com/comic-con/

May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

PayPal, right?

Don't hold your breath. Add it to the long list of comic sequels that never materialized including Green Lantern 2.

AintItCoolNews had a pretty accurate write-up today - "Zack Snyder's MAN OF STEEL grossed $688 million worldwide, which, for most movies, would be a healthy, franchise-launching haul. But for a film with a reported (i.e. bullshit) budget of $225 million (it was much closer to $300 million, if not over), that's barely break-even; when you factor in the massive marketing budget and the fact that half of the gross goes to the exhibitors, it would be entirely accurate to call MAN OF STEEL a box office disappointment."

Like I said, ain't happening.

Man of Steel was a healthy success to the studio and a box office success and if deemed a success, was going to be the launchpad of the DCUniverse and it did just that. Your Green Lantern schtick is flawed. THAT movie was supposed to be the movie to launch the DCUniverse and any idea after the fact was scrapped very quickly and it set WB back years.

Man of Steel comes along, produced the numbers the studio expected and 1 month after its release, BvS was announced. Superman will also get the BvS; JL boost and Superman is a household name and one of WB's film franchise's that with a boost, can do some killing at future box office's. Superman is a huge property with world-wide, pop cultural appeal. His name is legendary so it makes no sense for WB not to give the Man of Steel franchise another film since it was that film that allowed the launching pad to happen. It was green-lit.

MoS made its marketing budget back in merchandising alone before the movie even released and the Blu-Ray/DVD sells have made a killing, finishing top 3 in 2013 totals while only being on the market for 2 months and out-rivaled Iron Man 3 and The Wolverine ontop of it in a landslide in the genre and continues to do well, making more than 100+ million in sales. That's very successful. Box office numbers don't always accumulate a movies success, so does sales and MoS proved to be a hot buy among the general audience.

Come July:

[verslibre]

TIME TO PAY UP, TNC!!!

Check it out: http://nikkifinke.com/comic-con/

May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

PayPal, right?

Don't hold your breath. Add it to the long list of comic sequels that never materialized including Green Lantern 2.

AintItCoolNews had a pretty accurate write-up today - "Zack Snyder's MAN OF STEEL grossed $688 million worldwide, which, for most movies, would be a healthy, franchise-launching haul. But for a film with a reported (i.e. bullshit) budget of $225 million (it was much closer to $300 million, if not over), that's barely break-even; when you factor in the massive marketing budget and the fact that half of the gross goes to the exhibitors, it would be entirely accurate to call MAN OF STEEL a box office disappointment."

Like I said, ain't happening.

Two words.

Send money.

[verslibre]

It breaks down like this:

Whether or not MoS "broke even" or "made a profit" or whatever, the movie with both Superman and Batman will make everyone go apeshit.

THAT will ensure another solo MoS film (with expected cameos, like Marvel has done).

[verslibre]

P.S. Green Lantern 2 was ready to be kicked into preproduction before the release of the film, but that was before everyone saw another giant talking cloud on the screen.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It breaks down like this:

Whether or not MoS "broke even" or "made a profit" or whatever, the movie with both Superman and Batman will make everyone go apeshit.

THAT will ensure another solo MoS film (with expected cameos, like Marvel has done).

No, it will ensure another Superman vs. Aquaman vs. Harvey Birdman vs. The Powderpuff Girls vs. whatever. Shoe-horning Batman into the mix so early is a vote of no confidence.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Two words.

Send money.

You do realize the year is 2014, right? 2018 is years away. If a MOS sequel goes into production, I will pay my debts. Mind you, that is a LEGIT MOS sequel. NOT a Justice League sequel. NOT a "Superman and Aquaman and Martian Manhunter and Zack and Miri Film a Porno" type deal.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Man of Steel was a healthy success to the studio and a box office success and if deemed a success, was going to be the launchpad of the DCUniverse and it did just that.

If that was true, Batman would not be coming in to save the day.

Man of Steel comes along, produced the numbers the studio expected and 1 month after its release, BvS was announced.

They have no choice. Marvel (and Disney and Sony etc) are eating their lunch.

His name is legendary so it makes no sense for WB not to give the Man of Steel franchise another film since it was that film that allowed the launching pad to happen. It was green-lit.

You sound like the defenders of Singer's Superman Returns. Keep spinning. Is the Human Dreidel a member of the Justice League? If not, he should be...

[verslibre]

It breaks down like this:

Whether or not MoS "broke even" or "made a profit" or whatever, the movie with both Superman and Batman will make everyone go apeshit.

THAT will ensure another solo MoS film (with expected cameos, like Marvel has done).

No, it will ensure another Superman vs. Aquaman vs. Harvey Birdman vs. The Powderpuff Girls vs. whatever. Shoe-horning Batman into the mix so early is a vote of no confidence.

MoS2 is still MoS2, regardless of other DC heroes having cameos or whatever. The second Captain America movie introduced The Falcon, and Black Widow was there full-time, too.

Two words.

Send money.

You do realize the year is 2014, right? 2018 is years away. If a MOS sequel goes into production, I will pay my debts. Mind you, that is a LEGIT MOS sequel. NOT a Justice League sequel. NOT a "Superman and Aquaman and Martian Manhunter and Zack and Miri Film a Porno" type deal.

Quit moving the goalposts, dude! It's only $100. You can afford it.

[YoungJRNY]

Two words.

Send money.

You do realize the year is 2014, right? 2018 is years away. If a MOS sequel goes into production, I will pay my debts. Mind you, that is a LEGIT MOS sequel. NOT a Justice League sequel. NOT a "Superman and Aquaman and Martian Manhunter and Zack and Miri Film a Porno" type deal.

By the time 2018 rolls around, Superman will appear in 3 films by 2018 and is one half of the WB/DC's most popular superhero's, let alone world-wide. He's a sure money maker. Add in the boost of films like BvS and the eventual Justice League and that will do nothing but strengthen a true stand alone sequel to MoS even greater.

If that was true, Batman would not be coming in to save the day.

The inclusion of Batman indicates it was a success. Man of Steel's success's hinged on the building of the DC Cinematic Universe. The studio would have only greenlighted a new Bat-solo franchise if MoS didn't work. Notice no solo Bat-film in future plans? He'll probably cameo in other movies and only be featured in teammup films. Batman just literally got over a trilogy. It's ballsy to include a new Bat character THIS soon after one of the best trilogy's in cinema. Instead, MoS did its job and it greenlighted a new Batman for world building and WB put their trust into the Man of Steel universe.

Not sure if Affleck will don the cape in solo's. This Batman is older, tired and weary and Affleck wasn't to fond on doing this superhero stuff before this so as far as Batman, I bet he'll only be used in teammups while the other gold WB/DC property with a hot, young actor in Cavill, will get more solo's.

They have no choice. Marvel (and Disney and Sony etc) are eating their lunch.

Which is exactly right and proving of the point. Man of Steel was always going to be the launching pad. If the studio deemed MoS a disappointment, they would have folded the Justice League idea. WB isn't Marvel Studio's. They are just fine with making other movies in any genre. Years before Man of Steel even came out where we knew nothing of those details of the plot of the movie, it was highly recognized that the DCU hinged on the success to Man of Steel. Not only did MoS launch the DCU, but they just didn't go STRAIGHT into Justice League. They are building the world with the BvS movie WB always wanted to make. You just don't do that with the same director, actor's and creative team if MoS wa a failure. This is Supe's universe.

You sound like the defenders of Singer's Superman Returns. Keep spinning. Is the Human Dreidel a member of the Justice League? If not, he should be...

You sound defeated. I would like to know where these defenders to Superman Returns are. Long gone..vanished in thin air and I couldn't be fucking happier. I sounded like you during the Superman Returns days and claimed we will NOT see a Superman Returns sequel or Routh don the suit anymore because SR fell FLAT. MoS was far from falling flat. The debates still rage, good or bad, A Superman film SHOOK THINGS UP. Who would of thought?

Man of Steel's entire cast is returning. Cavill will play Superman for many, many, many more years and the director for Man of Steel, a polarizing director mind-you in Zack Snyder, is returning to helm BvS and Justice League. You tell me how all of that originated from disappointment.

Or you can just:

[YoungJRNY]

January article in early 2013:

This looks like a job for Superman: Justice League movie hinges on Man of Steel’s success

If the upcoming Man of Steel (slated for release on June 14) doesn’t perform as well as Warner Bros.’ executives are hoping, the Justice League movie may never get off the ground. Burned by the abysmal Green Lantern staring Ryan Reynolds, and with a looming budget for the Justice League film in the hundreds of millions, not to mention the dozens of DC properties ripe for big screen success if it all works out, WB is being cautious. Before moving ahead, WB will want to see solid results from Man of Steel. And not just good numbers, but great.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/thi ... ss/#!Yr8kU

'Justice League' Movie Confirmed, Starts Filming After 'Superman Vs. Batman'
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/ ... vs-batman/

[verslibre]

How can a movie featuring Superman AND Batman not be a runaway success in terms of grosses?

If the movie is as good as MoS is, at the very least, it will be a smash.

[verslibre]

'Justice League' Movie Confirmed, Starts Filming After 'Superman Vs. Batman'
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/ ... vs-batman/

MoS2 announcement forthcoming. $50. Let's see...CDs? Movies? Red Robin? Gas tank?

[YoungJRNY]

If anybody has any comprehension skills whatsoever, then open your damn ears and actually LISTEN to what this man is saying. Now, after that, apply it to the FACTS that followed Man of Steel and connect the dots

Zack Snyder Man of Steel interview:

5:40-6:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExT5rqFqef0

Listen to that and get back with me and argue this logic of what's happening.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think I've been pretty gracious and upstanding about my wager. You guys sound like a bunch of deadbeat broke ass chumps. If the MOS sequel gets to any serious stage of pre-production, you will see your money. But not for a press release. Sorry. I didn't agree to that. There's not even a script yet. I apologize if you were counting on me to help pay the rent or keep u in scratch-offs and beef n cheese hot pockets. The fact that you are both insistent on the money RITE THIS SECOND, before so much as a frame had been filmed, indicates that ur confidence in the sequel actually happening is damn near close to zero. And, hey, I can't blame you.

[RedWingFan]

If that was true, Batman would not be coming in to save the day.

The inclusion of Batman indicates it was a success.

Dude, you have to know this is such bullshit. If a true MOS2 sequel were released in 2016 with his greatest enemy...Lex Luthor! (yawn) MOS2 would be lucky to break $400M. WB knows they can't do that, hence B v. S......Like TNC says to save the day. Everyone knows B v. S is going to make money, as well as Justice League. But what I'm saying the way they're cramming all this shit together, they're not going to make great movies. It's going to be half-ass storytelling because of all the characters they're gonna shove down our throats in such a short time period.

When all that is over WB will still face the big box office drop off of MOS2....they're just trying to cash in far enough into the black with B v. S and JL before that happens. If they completely screw the pooch with Shazaam and Sandman, I could see WB pulling the plug before they even get to MOS2.

[YoungJRNY]

I think I've been pretty gracious and upstanding about my wager. You guys sound like a bunch of deadbeat broke ass chumps. If the MOS sequel gets to any serious stage of pre-production, you will see your money. But not for a press release. Sorry. I didn't agree to that. There's not even a script yet. I apologize if you were counting on me to help pay the rent or keep u in scratch-offs and beef n cheese hot pockets. The fact that you are both insistent on the money RITE THIS SECOND, before so much as a frame had been filmed, indicates that ur confidence in the sequel actually happening is damn near close to zero. And, hey, I can't blame you.

Got to hand it to you, TNC. Your ability to spend time crafting a hilarious, random and not-so-insulting-anymore comedic sentence (straight up SKILL, btw. You should use it less often in fear of it becoming an overused gimmick)doesn't change the fact that all in all, the thought and potential of you being wrong is bothering you more than any dollar bill out of your pocket could dream of doing with my amusement.

[YoungJRNY]

Dude, you have to know this is such bullshit. But what I'm saying the way they're cramming all this shit together, they're not going to make great movies. It's going to be half-ass storytelling because of all the characters they're gonna shove down our throats in such a short time period.

WB wouldn't waste potential harm on Batman THIS soon after one of the most successful trilogies of all time by shorhorning him into a half-assed, not-so-great movie because that would mean one of their most successful money-making characters in their threshhold wouldn't be so profitable anymore Also, they are banking on Wonder Woman to be the next big potential franchise and won't risk that either. I know it's hard to comprehend or admit, but maybe WB/DC finally has a plan The rest of your points are garbage and not worth debating.

they completely screw the pooch with Shazaam and Sandman, I could see WB pulling the plug before they even get to MOS2.

I don't think Shazam is going to be a part of the DCUniverse and may be an entirely different franchise and entity so his franchise should and probably won't have any barring on MoS2 or future DC properties within' that Justice League universe. WB has been trying to green-light a Shazam movie franchise for years but it was shelved once the studio decided to put Superman as the focus with Man of Steel so I believe Shazam will be his own standalone franchise. Though, that's all getting ahead. WB was always scrutinized by not having a plan but now that they probably now DO have their plan in order, it doesn't please the wrong people.

[YoungJRNY]

Ben Fritz ‏@benfritz 24m
Hinting at a Wonder Woman movie someday, WB CEO Kevin Tsujihara says, "we have something we're not ready to announce."

[YoungJRNY]

It breaks down like this:

Whether or not MoS "broke even" or "made a profit" or whatever, the movie with both Superman and Batman will make everyone go apeshit.

THAT will ensure another solo MoS film (with expected cameos, like Marvel has done).

No, it will ensure another Superman vs. Aquaman vs. Harvey Birdman vs. The Powderpuff Girls vs. whatever. Shoe-horning Batman into the mix so early is a vote of no confidence.

You don't shoehorn Batman into ANYTHING that you have no confidence in. He's a recent billion dollar franchise and is one of the studio's golden franchise players. You just don't risk him and shorhorn him into no-confidence projects because that all but guarantees and kills off the importance of Batman and what he is worth if he's in a shitty movie. The last time they did that, Batman and Robin almost permanently KILLED any thought of a Batman franchise ever existing. Come on, think, man.

[YoungJRNY]

BTW: I still see the refusal to challenge this post:

Zack Snyder Man of Steel interview:

5:40-6:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExT5rqFqef0

Listen to that and get back with me and argue this logic of what's happening.

[verslibre]

I think I've been pretty gracious and upstanding about my wager.

Moving the goalposts, adjusting the parameters, etc., ≠ gracious and upstanding.

You guys sound like a bunch of deadbeat broke ass chumps.

You sound like somebody who jumped the gun.

If the MOS sequel gets to any serious stage of pre-production, you will see your money. But not for a press release. Sorry. I didn't agree to that. There's not even a script yet.

Oh, I see. You want to see the rough cut before you figure you've lost. I didn't realize you were connected to WB/DC. Must be awesome to be you.

I apologize if you were counting on me to help pay the rent or keep u in scratch-offs and beef n cheese hot pockets. The fact that you are both insistent on the money RITE THIS SECOND,

"Rite"? Dude, stop shopping at Rite Aid. That place is a rip. You can save a lot of money buying your sardines & shell noodles at The Dollar Store.

before so much as a frame had been filmed, indicates that ur confidence in the sequel actually happening is damn near close to zero. And, hey, I can't blame you.

"I'll pay you $50 if a solo Superman sequel happens."

"You're on. Oh, there's a pending announcement."

"No, I mean if they officially announce it and start writing it."

"Like I said, you're on. They already have the story. They also brought in another writer to polish the script."

"No, I mean only if the cast and director sit down for a reading."

"Okay, then. I have PayPal, too."

"No, they have to have built sets, costumes, the new Batmobiles, green kryptonite condoms, the works. And pix from set leaks."

"A pic of LexCorp got posted. So did Gal Gadot, during filming."

"No, I mean they have to have completed principal photography. It has to go to the editing room."

"Fine, then."

"No, WB and Tjusihara have to announce filming is complete and they'll show footage at Comic Con 2015."

"Whatever. You're still on."

"No, I mean they have to have printed posters, aired teasers and trailers, and I want to see a standee in the theater lobby, too."

"Haha. Time to loosen the purse strings, dude."

"No, I NEED to be sitting in the theater when thegawdammittmuthafuckinshitspitonahotdogtootsierollupmypuckeredbrowneye DAMNIT WHY DID I MAKE THIS BET?!??!?!??!!"

[The_Noble_Cause]

It breaks down like this:

Whether or not MoS "broke even" or "made a profit" or whatever, the movie with both Superman and Batman will make everyone go apeshit.

THAT will ensure another solo MoS film (with expected cameos, like Marvel has done).

No, it will ensure another Superman vs. Aquaman vs. Harvey Birdman vs. The Powderpuff Girls vs. whatever. Shoe-horning Batman into the mix so early is a vote of no confidence.

You don't shoehorn Batman into ANYTHING that you have no confidence in. He's a recent billion dollar franchise and is one of the studio's golden franchise players. You just don't risk him and shorhorn him into no-confidence projects because that all but guarantees and kills off the importance of Batman and what he is worth if he's in a shitty movie. The last time they did that, Batman and Robin almost permanently KILLED any thought of a Batman franchise ever existing. Come on, think, man.

Actually, the studio had announced "Batman Triumphant", a third Schumacher directed Bat film, in the run-up to Batman & Robin, and even after its box office performance. Alot like MOS 2, it never happened.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think I've been pretty gracious and upstanding about my wager.

Moving the goalposts, adjusting the parameters, etc., ≠ gracious and upstanding.

You guys sound like a bunch of deadbeat broke ass chumps.

You sound like somebody who jumped the gun.

If the MOS sequel gets to any serious stage of pre-production, you will see your money. But not for a press release. Sorry. I didn't agree to that. There's not even a script yet.

Oh, I see. You want to see the rough cut before you figure you've lost. I didn't realize you were connected to WB/DC. Must be awesome to be you.

I apologize if you were counting on me to help pay the rent or keep u in scratch-offs and beef n cheese hot pockets. The fact that you are both insistent on the money RITE THIS SECOND,

"Rite"? Dude, stop shopping at Rite Aid. That place is a rip. You can save a lot of money buying your sardines & shell noodles at The Dollar Store.

before so much as a frame had been filmed, indicates that ur confidence in the sequel actually happening is damn near close to zero. And, hey, I can't blame you.

"I'll pay you $50 if a solo Superman sequel happens."

"You're on. Oh, there's a pending announcement."

"No, I mean if they officially announce it and start writing it."

"Like I said, you're on. They already have the story. They also brought in another writer to polish the script."

"No, I mean only if the cast and director sit down for a reading."

"Okay, then. I have PayPal, too."

"No, they have to have built sets, costumes, the new Batmobiles, green kryptonite condoms, the works. And pix from set leaks."

"A pic of LexCorp got posted. So did Gal Gadot, during filming."

"No, I mean they have to have completed principal photography. It has to go to the editing room."

"Fine, then."

"No, WB and Tjusihara have to announce filming is complete and they'll show footage at Comic Con 2015."

"Whatever. You're still on."

"No, I mean they have to have printed posters, aired teasers and trailers, and I want to see a standee in the theater lobby, too."

"Haha. Time to loosen the purse strings, dude."

"No, I NEED to be sitting in the theater when thegawdammittmuthafuckinshitspitonahotdogtootsierollupmypuckeredbrowneye DAMNIT WHY DID I MAKE THIS BET?!??!?!??!!"

A press release touting a movie is just that. All I can say to you is, never count ur chickens before they hatch. Oh, and start selling some of your vast collection of sticky, dog-eared hustler magazines on Ebay, because I fully anticipate being 100 dollars richer at the end of this. As for me reneging on my bet, if that were true, I could very easily delete my sn and never post in this thread again. You're not that bright are yah? Keep it up, ahole, and you'll be lucky if I send you a 5 spot in Monopoly currency that I wiped my ass with.