ed, does he need to get the brown ring off his neck?

by **ltbob** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:52 am

I'd say its in pretty deep. His playin is off, so is his head.

by **NUBMAN** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:55 am

Wow, I thought this forum section was closed! LOL

The way it looks now is that VH is in limbo once again. Get ready for another few years of rumors, dead end deadlines, and no information (official that is) regarding VH.
I will have to wait for Sammy, the Waboritas, and Mike to play near me. That wont be too bad. At least I will be guarenteed a good show.

I sure hope Ed realizes what another 1 or 2 year(s) of silence will do to VH.

I am more hopeful that Roth will tour with the Eat Em And Smile lineup again in the future. That would be sweet!

by **Abitaman** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:34 am

Never cared much for the Dave era Van halen, so a reunion with Dave, I could care less if it happened. I know alot of other people feel different, but Sammy rocks, and the band really came around as a "band" when Sammy came on. But either with Sammy or Dave, not much is going to happen unless Ed gets his act together-ERIC

by **Fernando Ramirez** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:14 am

NUBMAN wrote:Wow, I thought this forum section was closed! LOL

The way it looks now is that VH is in limbo once again. Get ready for another few years of rumors, dead end deadlines, and no information (official that is) regarding VH.
I will have to wait for Sammy, the Waboritas, and Mike to play near me. That wont be too bad. At least I will be guarenteed a good show.

I sure hope Ed realizes what another 1 or 2 year(s) of silence will do to VH.

I am more hopeful that Roth will tour with the Eat Em And Smile lineup again in the future. That would be sweet!

I've always thought Diamond Dave screwed up BIG TIME by losing the firepower of both Billy Sheehan and Steve Vai. So, really, Diamond Dave screwed up TWICE: losing Van Halen, then losing these other guys. What an idiot.

At least you can still see Vai and Sheehan working together... Sheehan plays with Vai now. They are on the latest Steve Vai DVD: LIVE AT THE ASTORIA. They are also on the G3 DVD playing with Steve... the one that includes Yngwie on it.

by **NUBMAN** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:48 am

Yeah. Steve and Billy are magic together. I have the dvd from the London show. Amazing.
I once saw part of a bootleg from the Eat em and smile tour (Toronto I think) that was awesome. The band was so tight. They made the vh stuff look effortless. Plus, Dave's solo material was quirky and cool.

VH will need to do a lot of clensing before anything good comes from it.

by **Fernando Ramirez** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:01 am

I would love to see some video footage of Dave/Steve/Billy. I wonder why Diamond Dave hasn't put anything out?

IMHO, Dave lost it with the 2nd album. It was too "pop" and didn't have enough guitar on it. The production was very "tinny" and didn't sound loud and majestic enough. Coincidentally, Billy was gone by then. If I'm not mistaken, he recorded the album (or some tracks), but you can certainly tell he was kept on a leash... "chained up" by Dave. Dave didn't let him do anything of consequence. As a result, the album is sterile and cold.

by **piecesofeight** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:48 pm

While I have become more of a VH fan with Sammy, I have the DLR '86 tour from Canada and those were some of his best times! Great footage!
Dave, Steve and Billy 'is' good stuff!
I might even go as far as saying that I enjoy watching the '04 VH shows with Sammy better than watching old shows with Dave, but I really enjoy Dave's late 80's solo shows.
I'd rather LISTEN to Sammy than Dave. Dave is a GREAT showman, but Sammy has better vocals.
Bottom line again, unless Eddie gets his act together, there is no VH. To many when you lose a lead singer, the band is not the same, but in this case, if Eddie were gone there would be even less of a following than the Gary era.
IF Dave came back and Eddie wasn't there...it totally would not be VH.
VH with Sammy had one of the most successful new lead singer switches.
Sammy brought a whole diff dynamic to the group. Not only his awesome frickin' vocals, but the songs became a lot more positve too.
It wasn't just all about !!@#$$%% and that added a much huger fan base. They had so many radio hits with Sammy

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:53 am

You think Sammy and Mike aren't kicking themselves for not joining Soul Sirkus??? So they cashed in on ONE VH tour....they could have ridden Soul Sirkus somewhere....Ya ya I know, what have they done?? Give them time, they will.

by **Fernando Ramirez** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:22 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:You think Sammy and Mike aren't kicking themselves for not joining Soul Sirkus??? So they cashed in on ONE VH tour....they could have ridden Soul Sirkus somewhere....Ya ya I know, what have they done?? Give them time, they will.

I think JSS is a much better choice for the group than Sammy Hagar. I mean, no disrespect intended.... I'm a Sammy Fan from back in the early 80s (STANDING HAMPTON, THREE LOCK BOX, VOA)... but JSS is a more versatile musician.... he can do anything from Queen to Journey, to Talisman, and his solo material. Very diverse.

Mike probably could have ridden the Soul Sirkus train, but probably wanted to keep his schedule open for anything Eddie may want to do with Van Halen in the near future. I think the plan was to record a new VH record at the beginning of this year, and have it out soon. But now, I'm not so sure.

by **rockeratheart** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:05 am

REGARDING THE PREVIOSU REPLY ABOTU mICHAEL ANTHONY WANTING TO BE AVAILBLE FOR VH..Given the fact tha VH cant sell out arenas and they dont matter anymore in the worl d of contemporary music , Mike may decide he no longer needs to factor VH into his life.. he could do
jsut as well in a good project on his own.. Maybe he might want to be in BITTER PILL with Roth , Lee and Vincent seeing Daisley supposedly is NOT invovled in it.

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:35 am

rockeratheart wrote:REGARDING THE PREVIOSU REPLY ABOTU mICHAEL ANTHONY WANTING TO BE AVAILBLE FOR VH..Given the fact tha VH cant sell out arenas and they dont matter anymore in the worl d of contemporary music , Mike may decide he no longer needs to factor VH into his life.. he could do
jsut as well in a good project on his own.. Maybe he might want to be in BITTER PILL with Roth , Lee and Vincent seeing Daisley supposedly is NOT invovled in it.

I am guessing that Ed wasn't too happy with Mike being so buddy-buddy with Sammy until Sammy rejoined the band. I read that Eddie didn't talk to Mike for a year or more. If Mikey worked with Roth, Eddie might just kick him out of VH. Not that there's anything to be kicked out of!

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:14 am

Mike is definately getting treated like shit! I even wonder if he would go back to VH without Sammy. At this point it is obvious that he an Sammy love working together.

I saw the Eat 'Em And Smile Tour and I was BLOWN AWAY!! The magic of that band, don't forget Gregg Bissonette on drums, was electric on stage. When Steve and Billy left I KNEW the problem was DLR. He has not had the same line-up on anything since leaving VH. Why is that?

My FAVORITE memory of the EEAS Tour was the "guitar" solo. Steve Vai walks out on stage and start this incredible guitar solo...all alone on stage. He noodles through a couple minutes of tricks. And then he bends this one note...but while bending the note he also bends the guitar! As he does it again (in case you missed it the first time I guess), Billy walks out on stage bending the note with his bass. At that point Steve threw the FOAM GUITAR he had been pretending to play out into the audience. It had been Billy on the bass for the WHOLE SOLO!! AMAZING stuff!!

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:19 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Mike is definately getting treated like shit! I even wonder if he would go back to VH without Sammy. At this point it is obvious that he an Sammy love working together.

I saw the Eat 'Em And Smile Tour and I was BLOWN AWAY!! The magic of that band, don't forget Gregg Bissonette on drums, was electric on stage. When Steve and Billy left I KNEW the problem was DLR. He has not had the same line-up on anything since leaving VH. Why is that?

My FAVORITE memory of the EEAS Tour was the "guitar" solo. Steve Vai walks out on stage and start this incredible guitar solo...all alone on stage. He noodles through a couple minutes of tricks. And then he bends this one note...but while bending the note he also bends the guitar! As he does it again (in case you missed it the first time I guess), Billy walks out on stage bending the note with his bass. At that point Steve threw the FOAM GUITAR he had been pretending to play out into the audience. It had been Billy on the bass for the WHOLE SOLO!! AMAZING stuff!!

Cool - who opened that show, do you remember?

EEAS is a GREAT CD. Recently downloaded it (to replace my cassette :shock:

) and listened to it for the first time in years.

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:29 am

I went and looked at my ticket stubs, but it does not say the opening act. But it was funny to see that the 2nd concert I ever went to was VH 5150 and the 3rd one was DLR EEAS.

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:30 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I went and looked at my ticket stubs, but it does not say the opening act. But it was funny to see that the 2nd concert I ever went to was VH 5150 and the 3rd one was DLR EEAS.

What was the second?

My first concert was VH Diver Down. Second was Sammy Hagar. Weird, huh?

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:33 am

My first was Heart's self-titled with Y&T opening. Then VH, Then DLR.

My parents would not let me go to any concerts until I was 14. I couldn't get tix to the VH 1984 Tour. Then nothing else came around until Heart. But after that, I went to EVERYTHING!

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:37 am

jrnyman28 wrote:My first was Heart's self-titled with Y&T opening. Then VH, Then DLR.

My parents would not let me go to any concerts until I was 14. I couldn't get tix to the VH 1984 Tour. Then nothing else came around until Heart. But after that, I went to EVERYTHING!

Spent your allowance on tix and albums, right? Me, too! And Atari games...

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:44 am

NealIsGod wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:My first was Heart's self-titled with Y&T opening. Then VH, Then DLR.

My parents would not let me go to any concerts until I was 14. I couldn't get tix to the VH 1984 Tour. Then nothing else came around until Heart. But after that, I went to EVERYTHING!

Spent your allowance on tix and albums, right? Me, too! And Atari games...

I skipped the video games. My dad had gotten an Apple II computer so I got games for that from friends. They would copy and trade them! Music has always been where I spent my money, that is why it has been so damn depressing lately not having any money to spend! For that very reason I have succubed to trading, burning and legal d/ls. I have given up on my pakage-obsession (for now). It's cheaper.

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:53 am

I RARELY buy CDs anymore. Maybe 2 or 3 a year. Much easier and cheaper to d/l. I will buy Generations, of course.

The iPod is the greatest invention since the phonograph! So easy to manage music that way. No more bulky leather CD cases for this guy!

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:58 am

I am still holding out on the iPod. I like my cds, I like listening to them all the way through...not just singles and not on random. Besdies, I cna't use headphones much because of work, kids, wife, phone, etc. But that iPod Phone seems cool. And connecting the iPod to the car stereo...very cool!

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:01 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I am still holding out on the iPod. I like my cds, I like listening to them all the way through...not just singles and not on random. Besdies, I cna't use headphones much because of work, kids, wife, phone, etc. But that iPod Phone seems cool. And connecting the iPod to the car stereo...very cool!

I only listen to headphones when cutting the grass. The other day I had it on random play, and that is the best. It's like a mix CD of all genres of your favorite songs, but you never know what's coming up next.

I listen in the car the most. A $25 attachment allows you to play it over the radio, and it sounds great 99% of the time (occasional static around telephone poles). I held out for a long time, but I can tell you it is worth every penney.

by **rockeratheart** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:03 am

I've read lots of comments at other sites too about Eddie's being sub par in 2004. I think I need ot get a bootleg to hear for myslef.. I find it hard to believe. He soundded decent on the three new songs on the CD

by **Toast!** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:11 am

rockeratheart wrote:I've read lots of comments at other sites too about Eddie's being sub par in 2004. I think I need ot get a bootleg to hear for myslef.. I find it hard to believe. He soundded decent on the three new songs on the CD

We saw them twice on the reunion tour, once in Kansas City and once in Dallas, and Eddie was great on the first show. The second show was not as good and Ed's timing was off on at least a couple of songs. Still, a bad night for Eddie is still pretty good.

And I have to agree with NIG about the iPod. I'm on my second player (ran out of space on the first one) and I love it.

MR

ed, does he need to get the brown ring off his neck?

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