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Ed said THE OTHER HALF is just a cover band. Isn't this without M.A.? Im goin, I dont care how bad Dave might,or might not sound. No matter what people say there is not a new band out that has a more original sound that V.H.

The Other Half is a cover band? Ummmm, I think Ed and Company did quite a few covers when they were playing the club scene. Obviously, he forgot about that.

Trailblazer wrote:The Other Half is a cover band? Ummmm, I think Ed and Company did quite a few covers when they were playing the club scene. Obviously, he forgot about that.

Yes, but don't they all have a little more experience and a larger body of work at this point?

Is the VanPornSoundtrack music going to be in the setlist? Might be a good way to get Dave a blow.

Love how all the big markets are basically jumping on this around the same time.
Folks over at the VH Trade Forums have been mentioning this for awhile, and gotta' give them even more props because before the all the big news markets starting jumping all over this, folks over there were giving this exact time frame.

I'm excited to see Dave and Eddie on stage together again. When I went to see CVH in 1981 I remember Dave and Eddie the most.

ltbob wrote:Ed said THE OTHER HALF is just a cover band. Isn't this without M.A.? Im goin, I dont care how bad Dave might,or might not sound. No matter what people say there is not a new band out that has a more original sound that V.H.

The Other Half is a cover band because MA didn't write any of the VH music. Eddie wrote the music and Dave wrote all the lyrics. This version of VH is not a cover band for the same reason.

Imagine if you were Eddie and your bass player that didn't write any of the music forms a band called The Other half and plays all your music. How would you feel? I know I would feel betrayed. MA has been riding Eddie's coat tails for 3 decades and became very wealthy doing it.

Don't forget MA newest band,The Mad Anthony Express that plays all of Eddie's music also.

I would have more respect for MA if he did a solo album with his own songs atleast to play along with the CVH songs that The Mad Anthony Express plays. I don't know of one single song that MA has ever written.

vhroth wrote:

ltbob wrote:Ed said THE OTHER HALF is just a cover band. Isn't this without M.A.? Im goin, I dont care how bad Dave might,or might not sound. No matter what people say there is not a new band out that has a more original sound that V.H.

The Other Half is a cover band because MA didn't write any of the VH music. Eddie wrote the music and Dave wrote all the lyrics. This version of VH is not a cover band for the same reason.

Imagine if you were Eddie and your bass player that didn't write any of the music forms a band called The Other half and plays all your music. How would you feel? I know I would feel betrayed. MA has been riding Eddie's coat tails for 3 decades and became very wealthy doing it.

Don't forget MA newest band,The Mad Anthony Express that plays all of Eddie's music also.

I would have more respect for MA if he did a solo album with his own songs atleast to play along with the CVH songs that The Mad Anthony Express plays. I don't know of one single song that MA has ever written.

Interesting view. I guess Eddie thinks it's wrong for MA to make money off of VH music without him and Alex. But you left out that he was playing in The Other Half with Sammy, who wrote or co-wrote much of the music they played.

NealIsGod wrote:

vhroth wrote:

ltbob wrote:Ed said THE OTHER HALF is just a cover band. Isn't this without M.A.? Im goin, I dont care how bad Dave might,or might not sound. No matter what people say there is not a new band out that has a more original sound that V.H.

The Other Half is a cover band because MA didn't write any of the VH music. Eddie wrote the music and Dave wrote all the lyrics. This version of VH is not a cover band for the same reason.

Imagine if you were Eddie and your bass player that didn't write any of the music forms a band called The Other half and plays all your music. How would you feel? I know I would feel betrayed. MA has been riding Eddie's coat tails for 3 decades and became very wealthy doing it.

Don't forget MA newest band,The Mad Anthony Express that plays all of Eddie's music also.

I would have more respect for MA if he did a solo album with his own songs atleast to play along with the CVH songs that The Mad Anthony Express plays. I don't know of one single song that MA has ever written.

Interesting view. I guess Eddie thinks it's wrong for MA to make money off of VH music without him and Alex. But you left out that he was playing in The Other Half with Sammy, who wrote or co-wrote much of the music they played.

You're right,I thought about that after I posted that Sammy wrote the lyrics for the songs they recorded with him so he's riding Eddie and Sammys coat tails. The name The Other Half refers to them being The Other Half Of VH and thats kind of sticking it in Eddies face. They also talked some shit about Eddie during the performances (while they where playing his music) especialy before they played Summer Nights. Sammy would say they couldn't play that song in 2004 because Eddie forgot how to play it and then launch into the song with the spotlight on Sammys guitar player.

The Mad Anthony Express is just MA and Sammys solo band members playing CVH that MA didn't write any of. I know he got credit on the albums but Eddie said back in the early days he did that before he knew he would be writting all the music. In later years Eddie said MA got rich off of his music and he still is with The Mad Anthony Express. MA needs to record something,even just a EP because he lives off of Eddie,Dave and Sammys music.

vhroth wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:

vhroth wrote:

ltbob wrote:Ed said THE OTHER HALF is just a cover band. Isn't this without M.A.? Im goin, I dont care how bad Dave might,or might not sound. No matter what people say there is not a new band out that has a more original sound that V.H.

The Other Half is a cover band because MA didn't write any of the VH music. Eddie wrote the music and Dave wrote all the lyrics. This version of VH is not a cover band for the same reason.

Imagine if you were Eddie and your bass player that didn't write any of the music forms a band called The Other half and plays all your music. How would you feel? I know I would feel betrayed. MA has been riding Eddie's coat tails for 3 decades and became very wealthy doing it.

Don't forget MA newest band,The Mad Anthony Express that plays all of Eddie's music also.

I would have more respect for MA if he did a solo album with his own songs atleast to play along with the CVH songs that The Mad Anthony Express plays. I don't know of one single song that MA has ever written.

Interesting view. I guess Eddie thinks it's wrong for MA to make money off of VH music without him and Alex. But you left out that he was playing in The Other Half with Sammy, who wrote or co-wrote much of the music they played.

You're right,I thought about that after I posted that Sammy wrote the lyrics for the songs they recorded with him so he's riding Eddie and Sammys coat tails. The name The Other Half refers to them being The Other Half Of VH and thats kind of sticking it in Eddies face. They also talked some shit about Eddie during the performances (while they where playing his music) especialy before they played Summer Nights. Sammy would say they couldn't play that song in 2004 because Eddie forgot how to play it and then launch into the song with the spotlight on Sammys guitar player.

The Mad Anthony Express is just MA and Sammys solo band members playing CVH that MA didn't write any of. I know he got credit on the albums but Eddie said back in the early days he did that before he knew he would be writting all the music. In later years Eddie said MA got rich off of his music and he still is with The Mad Anthony Express. MA needs to record something,even just a EP because he lives off of Eddie,Dave and Sammys music.

He's just a bass player with a good BG voice. I don't know this, but I doubt he writes anything. He knows his role. He may not have written anything with VH (not sure of this either), but he sure as hell contributed to the distinctive sound of VH. I wouldn't be surprised if they pipe in some of his BG vox on the upcoming tour.

NealIsGod wrote:

vhroth wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:

vhroth wrote:

ltbob wrote:Ed said THE OTHER HALF is just a cover band. Isn't this without M.A.? Im goin, I dont care how bad Dave might,or might not sound. No matter what people say there is not a new band out that has a more original sound that V.H.

The Other Half is a cover band because MA didn't write any of the VH music. Eddie wrote the music and Dave wrote all the lyrics. This version of VH is not a cover band for the same reason.

Imagine if you were Eddie and your bass player that didn't write any of the music forms a band called The Other half and plays all your music. How would you feel? I know I would feel betrayed. MA has been riding Eddie's coat tails for 3 decades and became very wealthy doing it.

Don't forget MA newest band,The Mad Anthony Express that plays all of Eddie's music also.

I would have more respect for MA if he did a solo album with his own songs atleast to play along with the CVH songs that The Mad Anthony Express plays. I don't know of one single song that MA has ever written.

Interesting view. I guess Eddie thinks it's wrong for MA to make money off of VH music without him and Alex. But you left out that he was playing in The Other Half with Sammy, who wrote or co-wrote much of the music they played.

You're right,I thought about that after I posted that Sammy wrote the lyrics for the songs they recorded with him so he's riding Eddie and Sammys coat tails. The name The Other Half refers to them being The Other Half Of VH and thats kind of sticking it in Eddies face. They also talked some shit about Eddie during the performances (while they where playing his music) especialy before they played Summer Nights. Sammy would say they couldn't play that song in 2004 because Eddie forgot how to play it and then launch into the song with the spotlight on Sammys guitar player.

The Mad Anthony Express is just MA and Sammys solo band members playing CVH that MA didn't write any of. I know he got credit on the albums but Eddie said back in the early days he did that before he knew he would be writting all the music. In later years Eddie said MA got rich off of his music and he still is with The Mad Anthony Express. MA needs to record something,even just a EP because he lives off of Eddie,Dave and Sammys music.

He's just a bass player with a good BG voice. I don't know this, but I doubt he writes anything. He knows his role. He may not have written anything with VH (not sure of this either), but he sure as hell contributed to the distinctive sound of VH. I wouldn't be surprised if they pipe in some of his BG vox on the upcoming tour.

Yeah I heard about that rumor that VH is going to do that. That would be lame.

A lot of VH writing credits are co-credits for full band which of course means MA gets credit too...

Red13JoePa wrote:A lot of VH writing credits are co-credits for full band which of course means MA gets credit too...

I understand that but there's a thread somewhere in this forum about a unrealesed GW Eddie interview from around 81 or 82 and Eddie said MA doesn't contribute ANYTHING.

vhroth wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:A lot of VH writing credits are co-credits for full band which of course means MA gets credit too...

I understand that but there's a thread somewhere in this forum about a unrealesed GW Eddie interview from around 81 or 82 and Eddie said MA doesn't contribute ANYTHING.

I'm sure that was the alcohol talking.

NealIsGod wrote:

vhroth wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:A lot of VH writing credits are co-credits for full band which of course means MA gets credit too...

I understand that but there's a thread somewhere in this forum about a unrealesed GW Eddie interview from around 81 or 82 and Eddie said MA doesn't contribute ANYTHING.

I'm sure that was the alcohol talking.

Very possible. But Eddie has made his decision to replace MA and I think its mostly because he wants to play with his son. Eddie has been thinking about replacing MA since around 81 but he felt to bad to do it. Dave wrote in his book that MA was nearly replaced for every album. I think The Other half was the final straw for Eddie and he just said screw it,Wolfgang is in. I have nothing against MA but but there's nothing anyone can do about him being out of the band and it won't stop me from seeing VH because of it like a lot of other people at other forum sites.

I think Eddie's idea to replace Michael Anthony has several factors behind it:

1. Eddie wanted to suck up to David Lee Roth, so he figures if he plays an anti-Hagar card by dissing MA, it will gain some brownie points with DLR.

2. Eddie was in a drunken, pissy state of mind when he got mad at MA and cut him from the roster.

3. Eddie was in a drunken stupor and had a whacked-out idea that his immature, inexperienced son could replace a rock icon.

Whatever combination of these three factors led to the axing of MA, it's water under the bridge now. I don't see any turning back at this point.

I think it's likely that Mikey is relieved to be free of the drama surrounding Van Halen. In his interview with Angie Kay, he said "we're not 25 anymore and just want to get out to the fans and have fun". Something along those lines.

One more thing and I am out of this VH forum. Does anyone really know if Eddie is clean and sober? I don't mean cutting back to six beers and a bottle of wine every day, but is he 100% sober? Since he was not able to mend fences with MA, I question the success of his rehab.

For anyone that will be buying a ticket, good luck. I hope you get your money's worth!

Over and out!!!

vhroth wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:A lot of VH writing credits are co-credits for full band which of course means MA gets credit too...

I understand that but there's a thread somewhere in this forum about a unrealesed GW Eddie interview from around 81 or 82 and Eddie said MA doesn't contribute ANYTHING.

I think that somewhere between "brings in his own songs" and "has every note dictated to him" is a vast grey area which many team player-types inhabit, MA among them.

In any case, existence of The Other Half is most likely just a convenient, symbolic excuse.

Trailblazer wrote:Since he was not able to mend fences with MA, I question the success of his rehab.

Ayup. Tour with the guy or don't, but I'll believe the hype of EVH having his head on straight when I see some kind of magnanimous gesture towards MA. That, and admitting responsibility for the fiasco that was 2004.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/art ... 1003623155



"Billboard.com reports that VAN HALEN will announce its reunion tour with David Lee Roth on Monday (Aug. 13) at 11:00 a.m. PST during a media event at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles. The tour is expected to begin in October and encompass 50 dates in North American arenas. The trek will feature founding VAN HALEN members David Lee Roth, Eddie Van Halen and Alex Van Halen, with Eddie's son Wolfgang on bass."

Eddie was in rehab for drug addiction,probably alchohol too. He was smoking meth and it showed. Rotten teeth,missing teeth until he got them fixed this year.

The Hannah Montana fall tour will probably do better than Van Halen.

Trailblazer wrote: Does anyone really know if Eddie is clean and sober? Since he was not able to mend fences with MA, I question the success of his rehab.

Good question, been wondering the same. I mean, what did MA really DO other than play w/ Sammy and DLR in 2002 when VH was on hiatus?

Don't know that MA did anything other than make the decision to tour with Sammy, JoePa. I don't think we will ever know the bullshit he put up with during his years with that band. One thing I have always been curious about - if his musicianship was sub-standard as Eddie has inferred and if they were trying to get rid of him for 20 years, why did it never happen until recently? Don't know about you, but if my work was sub-standard, it sure as hell wouldn't take my boss 20 years to fire my ass.

vhroth wrote:Eddie was in rehab for drug addiction,probably alchohol too. He was smoking meth and it showed. Rotten teeth,missing teeth until he got them fixed this year.

That kind of lifestyle usually doesn't get fixed during a 30-day stay in a posh celebrity rehab. Many celebrities go back to drinking and drugging the same day they leave the place. If Eddie hasn't done any drinking or drugging since he left rehab, he would be in the minority.

How many rehab stints has Ozzy been through? What about Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears?

Here's a list of celebrities who have been in rehab:

Betty Ford
Kirsty Alley
J. Paul Getty, Jr.
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
Robin Williams
Robert Downey, Jr.
Ray Kroc
Eminem
Patrick Kennedy
Ben Affleck
James Frey
Nick Nolte
Jan Michael Vincent
Nick Carter
Boy George
Michael Jackson
Keith Richards
Robert Mitchum
Judy Collins
Rush Limbaugh
Johnny Cash
Joaquin Phoenix
Pat O'Brien
Elton John
George Jones
Kurt Cobain
Courtney Love
Leif Garrett
John Belushi
Eileen Brennan
Daniel Baldwin
Corey Feldman
Corey Haim
Marion Barry
Whitney Houston
Bobby Brown
A. Whitney Brown
Glen Campbell
Dwight Gooden
Darryl Strawberry
Jerry Garcia
Samuel L. Jackson
Leonard Nimoy
Kelly Osbourne
James Brown
Lenny Bruce
Chevy Chase
Robert Blake
Eddie Van Halen
David Crosby
Judy Carne
Billy Holiday
Grace Slick
Iggy Pop
Richard Carpenter
Dr. John
Randy Moss
Pat Day
Tara Conner
Al Unser, Jr.
Jim Ramstad
Roy Simmons
Bela Lugosi
Mickey Rourke
Naomi Campbell
Patrick Swayze
Ted Kennedy
Haley Joel Osment
Anna Nicole Smith
Vitas Gerulaitis
Ozzy Osbourne
Stevie Ray Vaughan
John McVie
Hank Williams III
Paul Williams
Franz Wright
Christopher Kennedy Lawford
Annie Leibowitz
Mackenzie Phillips
Jo Dee Messina
Danny Bonaduce
Dennis Quaid
Jenna Bush
Noelle Bush
Dick Cheney
Mel Gibson
Michael Douglas
Matthew Perry
Charlie Sheen
Paula Poundstone
Kate Moss
Ray Charles
Johnny Depp
Mary Tyler Moore
Richard Dreyfuss
Philip Seymour Hoffman
John Daly
Keith Moon
Ted Turner
George C. Scott
Tony Curtis
David Gahan
Wynonna Judd
Britney Spears
Wilson Pickett
Carrie Fisher
Nell Carter
Billy Bob Thornton
Chris Webber
Onterrio Smith
Tom Sizemore
Drew Barrymore
Dick Van Dyke
Larry Hagman
James Galdolfini
Pete Doherty
Kiefer Sutherland
Elizabeth Taylor
Colin Farrell
Etta James
Rick James
Buzz Aldrin
Chris Penn
Jason Priestley
Prince Harry
Tom Arnold
Brett Butler
Dionne Warwick
Ken Caminiti
Jennifer Capriati
Tonya Harding
Truman Capote
Liza Minnelli
Martin Lawrence
Melanie Griffith
Tatum O'Neal
Lindsay Lohan
Shelley Winters
Eddie Money
Jessica Hahn
Christian Slater
Alice Cooper
Winona Ryder
Demi Moore
Nicole Richie
David Bowie
O.J. Simpson
Jim Brown
Joe Louis
Mike Tyson
Joe Namath
Lawrence Taylor
Steve Howe
Gerry Cooney
Dock Ellis
David Soul
Stacy Ann Ferguson "Fergie"
Oliver Stone
Representative Mark Foley
Richard Pryor
George Carlin
Richard Lewis
Rodney King
Jean-Claude Van Damme
Bo Bice (American Idol)
Dr. Bob

The chances of Eddie relapsing are very high.

Hell of a list. There was a couple of surprises!