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Tyler says "I am feeling great and everything is back to normal."...they are coming to Hawaii after getting SUED for bailing in 07...should be interesting....

Maui Tom wrote:Tyler says "I am feeling great and everything is back to normal."

Yeah.... okay....

Maui Tom wrote:Tyler says "I am feeling great and everything is back to normal."...they are coming to Hawaii after getting SUED for bailing in 07...should be interesting....

You going, Tommy?!?!?

Michigan Girl wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:Tyler says "I am feeling great and everything is back to normal."...they are coming to Hawaii after getting SUED for bailing in 07...should be interesting....

You going, Tommy?!?!?

oh yeah...got way better tix then I had in 07 cuz of the class action suit...ever been to a concert with THIS hanging over it?

Aerosmith is ‘under orders’ to put on spectacular show
By DAVE DONDONEAU, The Honolulu Advertiser
POSTED: October 17, 2009








HONOLULU - If you want to make sure you see a guaranteed, full-blown, no-holds-barred Aerosmith show, head over to Maui on Tuesday night to catch the rock icons at War Memorial Stadium.

That's not to say Sunday's show at the Blaisdell Arena will be any less spectacular, but we're talking guarantees.

The Maui concert has one via a court order. The Oahu concert comes only with guitarist Joe Perry's promise that every time the group takes the stage, they play hard for their fans.

The difference between the two will likely prove insignificant, but it's worth noting because the court order is the reason Aerosmith is performing here. The order stems from 2007, when the group pulled out of a Maui concert at the last minute. At the time, it stated scheduling conflicts with a bigger concert in Chicago.

The abrupt cancellation led to Honolulu attorney Brandee Faria filing a class-action lawsuit on behalf of about 8,000 fans who bought tickets, hotel rooms, flights and car rentals for the Maui show.

"Canceling a concert on Maui is not like canceling one on the Mainland, where it's mostly just lost drive time and ticket refunds," Faria said. "Most of the fans were coming from off-island, and since it was a Wednesday concert, many had to take off work for it."

Through disclosure, Faria discovered that the band had cancellation insurance and actually made more money by not performing on Maui. Also, the group had rescheduled the Chicago concert because of an alleged eye injury suffered by Steven Tyler. Faria, however, said the band still came to Hawaii that week, with its equipment, and played a private show on Oahu. It simply chose not to perform on Maui, she said.

"I lived and breathed this case for two years," Faria said. "In the end, they gave us everything we asked for."

Faria not only got what she wanted financially, but she was also able to include the clause that Aerosmith has to put on a full show on Maui. That means all equipment, which she said cost $250,000 to fly over in 2007, plus all band members must perform here.

In other words, if Tyler somehow isn't fully recovered from his injuries from falling off the stage in South Dakota in August, they could cut the show short Sunday night with no legal recourse.

If that were to happen on Maui, Faria said she would drag the group back to court.

"I didn't want them to be able to come in with half their equipment and not do a full show," she said.

Faria said the settlement calls for everyone who had a ticket to the 2007 concert to get a free ticket to either show on Maui or Oahu. (They were already reimbursed for their 2007 tickets.) Aerosmith is also responsible, up to $460,000, for reimbursing ticketholders for their out-of-pocket expenses for the 2007 concert, plus $100 travel credit for flights.

"The people who filed got their money back and a free concert to boot," Faria said. "That's a great deal. It's not common to get settlements like this in a class-action suit."

In the end, she doubted the performance clause would be needed.

"I have complete confidence they'll put on a spectacular show, with or without that clause," she said. "From everything I gather, they can still rock it."

Concert promoter Tom Moffatt said only a few hundred people at Sunday's sold-out show at Blaisdell Arena are using vouchers, and he's not sure how many more are doing so for the Maui concert.

"It's going to be a heck of a show," Moffatt said. "They're putting a runway in that stretches out into the audience. That's the first time we've ever had one in at the Blaisdell."

Erik Rutka of Hawaii Kai is one of the handful of 2007 concertgoers taking advantage of the free ticket for the Oahu concert. He said he isn't filing for his other expenses.

"We probably should have done a better job of keeping our receipts, but it's not worth the hassle now," he said. "It wasn't as bad for us going over there and not seeing the concert as it was for some others. My wife was my fiancee in 2007, and we had gone over with the idea to catch the concert and check out wedding locations. It worked out well."

As for Aerosmith's take on the performance clause, Perry dismissed it as a nonissue during a recent phone interview.

"We owe the fans of Hawaii good shows," he said. "We only had to do the Maui show under the court ruling, but we've always wanted to play there. It's just never lined up that we could before now."

We better get a concert review, Tom!

Arianddu wrote:We better get a concert review, Tom!

doubtful.....if I am hoarse and hungover...it was a good show....

Fuck Aerosmith. Tyler is a loser.

ok, that was being a bit harsh, but you'd think he'd grow up a bit.

it's rock and roll...most of these guys never grow up....

Maui Tom wrote:it's rock and roll...most of these guys never grow up....

Uh, yeah, I guess you're right. Hell, we got 60 year old guys wearing high healed boots and painting their faces for christ's sake.

Maui Tom wrote:

Arianddu wrote:We better get a concert review, Tom!

doubtful.....if I am hoarse and hungover...it was a good show....

Spoilsport!

steveo777 wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:it's rock and roll...most of these guys never grow up....

Uh, yeah, I guess you're right. Hell, we got 60 year old guys wearing high healed boots and painting their faces for christ's sake.

And we have some 50 year old dude that will look like an ass
that no amount of paint could cover!!!

Michigan Girl wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:it's rock and roll...most of these guys never grow up....

Uh, yeah, I guess you're right. Hell, we got 60 year old guys wearing high healed boots and painting their faces for christ's sake.

And we have some 50 year old dude that will look like an ass
that no amount of paint could cover!!!

Ass? I heard you had the corner on that.

steveo777 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:it's rock and roll...most of these guys never grow up....

Uh, yeah, I guess you're right. Hell, we got 60 year old guys wearing high healed boots and painting their faces for christ's sake.

And we have some 50 year old dude that will look like an ass
that no amount of paint could cover!!!

Ass? I heard you had the corner on that.

I've always got your ass in a corner and don't forget it!!

steveo777 wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:it's rock and roll...most of these guys never grow up....

Uh, yeah, I guess you're right. Hell, we got 60 year old guys wearing high healed boots and painting their faces for christ's sake.

And KISS never pulled that shit on their fans the way that Aeoshite pulled it on their so called "fans". Happy to hear that
their fans got their money back.

wait...the band has a court order to do this show? yah...they'll be a in great mood to jam for the audience. lol..

they still have some very ticked off South Dakotans.


a bit off topic, Steveo777's av:


I could use a super schon bonus lesson

MrsPerry wrote:they still have some very ticked off South Dakotans.


a bit off topic, Steveo777's av:


I could use a super schon bonus lesson

Jana wrote:

MrsPerry wrote:they still have some very ticked off South Dakotans.


a bit off topic, Steveo777's av:


I could use a super schon bonus lesson

Lol....it says bonus, not bone us.

Boy...I was a casual fan...had CD's and shit but had never seen them....these guys have balls....what a kick butt show.....Tyler was great and Joe FUCKING Perry was a monster...best part of show was after last encore when Tyler said...and I am paraphrasing here..."thank you Maui! This whole thing was OUR fault...we fucked up!"

Kinda cool to live somewhere where a concert like this was bigger than big.....Maui rocks...

Maui Tom wrote:Boy...I was a casual fan...had CD's and shit but had never seen them....these guys have balls....what a kick butt show.....Tyler was great and Joe FUCKING Perry was a monster...best part of show was after last encore when Tyler said...and I am paraphrasing here..."thank you Maui! This whole thing was OUR fault...we fucked up!"

Kinda cool to live somewhere where a concert like this was bigger than big.....Maui rocks...

VERY cool!! This sounds great, Tom!!! Glad it was a success, I love JFP!!!

Michigan Girl wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:Boy...I was a casual fan...had CD's and shit but had never seen them....these guys have balls....what a kick butt show.....Tyler was great and Joe FUCKING Perry was a monster...best part of show was after last encore when Tyler said...and I am paraphrasing here..."thank you Maui! This whole thing was OUR fault...we fucked up!"

Kinda cool to live somewhere where a concert like this was bigger than big.....Maui rocks...

VERY cool!! This sounds great, Tom!!! Glad it was a success, I love JFP!!!

Sounds like a great time....and Joe fucking Perry rocks!!!

Maui Tom wrote:Boy...I was a casual fan...had CD's and shit but had never seen them....these guys have balls....what a kick butt show.....Tyler was great and Joe FUCKING Perry was a monster...best part of show was after last encore when Tyler said...and I am paraphrasing here..."thank you Maui! This whole thing was OUR fault...we fucked up!"

Kinda cool to live somewhere where a concert like this was bigger than big.....Maui rocks...

yay! so glad to hear they kicked ass!

i read a review of the honolulu show where steven said that it was 30 years ago since they played hawaii. i know i saw them 21 years ago in honolulu, in july of 1988, on the permanent vacation tour. didn't i? i can't find any evidence of this, so i'm feeling a little south of sanity at the moment.

Yes I lifted this...I NEVER remember set lists.....

http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=11642


War Memorial Stadium
Maui, Hawaii USA

The 2nd of 2 nights in Hawaii. This show was better than the one in Honolulu, on Sunday night. The band was extremely tight, if there was any problems between Steven & Joe, you could not tell.

Eat The Rich
Falling In Love (Is Hard On The Knees)
Rag Doll
Walking The Dog
Dream On
Last Child
Same Old Song And Dance
Combination
Stop Messing Around
Love In A Elevator
Cryin'
Draw The Line
Living On The Edge
Big 10" Record
I Don't Want To Miss A Thing
Walk This Way
Sweet Emotion
ENCORES-
Joe Perry Guitar Hero Battle
Rattlesnake Shake
Train Kept A Rollin'

Maui Tom wrote:Yes I lifted this...I NEVER remember set lists.....

http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=11642


War Memorial Stadium
Maui, Hawaii USA

The 2nd of 2 nights in Hawaii. This show was better than the one in Honolulu, on Sunday night. The band was extremely tight, if there was any problems between Steven & Joe, you could not tell.

Eat The Rich
Falling In Love (Is Hard On The Knees)
Rag Doll
Walking The Dog
Dream On
Last Child
Same Old Song And Dance
Combination
Stop Messing Around
Love In A Elevator
Cryin'
Draw The Line
Living On The Edge
Big 10" Record
I Don't Want To Miss A Thing
Walk This Way
Sweet Emotion
ENCORES-
Joe Perry Guitar Hero Battle
Rattlesnake Shake
Train Kept A Rollin'

5 cover songs and 1 song (I Don't Wanna Miss A Paycheck) not written by anyone in the band.

Now there's a setlist.

Four Grammies, 21 Top 40 hits, one of first rock groups to mix peanutbutter with chocolate (Toured with Run DMC). At least one Top 10 hit in the 70s, 80s, 90s and this century, Aerosmith has nothing left to prove.

from an awards standpoint...

Kiss - 1984 nominated for a MTV video award
1999 nominated for a Grammy

Aerosmith -

Award---------------------------------Wins-----Nominations
American Music Awards---------------7-------------9
Billboard Music Awards----------------4-------------5
Grammy Awards-----------------------4------------- 17
MTV Europe Music Awards------------1------------- 1
MTV Video Music Awards-------------10------------ 21
People's Choice Awards---------------1------------- 1
Teen Choice Awards-------------------2-------------2
Boston Music Awards------------------2------------- 6
MTV Movie Awards--------------------0-------------1


from a sales standpoint...

Kiss - 80 million records worldwide, 19 million in the United States.

Aerosmith - 150 million albums worldwide, including 66.5 million albums in the United States alone.



No matter how ya look at it.. sales, awards, etc.. Aerosmith DWARVES Kiss

It also looks like Aerosmith fans don't really care about the "shit being pulled on them" since, just on sales alone it appears they have roughly TWICE AS MANY worldwide... and THREE TIMES as many in the US alone... the KISSArmy may be big... but the AeroForce appears to be a tad BIGGER...

slucero wrote:from an awards standpoint...

Kiss - 1984 nominated for a MTV video award
1999 nominated for a Grammy

Aerosmith -

Award---------------------------------Wins-----Nominations
American Music Awards---------------7-------------9
Billboard Music Awards----------------4-------------5
Grammy Awards-----------------------4------------- 17
MTV Europe Music Awards------------1------------- 1
MTV Video Music Awards-------------10------------ 21
People's Choice Awards---------------1------------- 1
Teen Choice Awards-------------------2-------------2
Boston Music Awards------------------2------------- 6
MTV Movie Awards--------------------0-------------1


from a sales standpoint...

Kiss - 80 million records worldwide, 19 million in the United States.

Aerosmith - 150 million albums worldwide, including 66.5 million albums in the United States alone.



No matter how ya look at it.. sales, awards, etc.. Aerosmith DWARVES Kiss

It also looks like Aerosmith fans don't really care about the "shit being pulled on them" since, just on sales alone it appears they have roughly TWICE AS MANY worldwide... and THREE TIMES as many in the US alone... the KISSArmy may be big... but the AeroForce appears to be a tad BIGGER...

KISS never canceled a gig on their fans then proceeded to lie to these fans and called the cancellation "routing issues".

I saw Aerocrap in concert twice and they were the two worst concerts I've attended out of 150 shows. Bottom line is Aerocrap has a lead vocalist who can't sing. And from recent video clips he can't dance either.

KISS just released one of their best cds. No outside song writers. Entire process took only 2 or 3 months to complete. When was the last time Aerocrap did that? They've been "recording" their latest studio cd for the past 8 years. The band can't write a song without Marti Frederiksen, Mark Hudson, Diane Warren, and Desmond Child.

Aerosmith released "I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing". KISS wins.

Voyager wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:Tyler says "I am feeling great and everything is back to normal."

Yeah.... okay....

Wow, Mary Tyler Moore didn't age well.

kissarmy wrote:

slucero wrote:from an awards standpoint...

Kiss - 1984 nominated for a MTV video award
1999 nominated for a Grammy

Aerosmith -

Award---------------------------------Wins-----Nominations
American Music Awards---------------7-------------9
Billboard Music Awards----------------4-------------5
Grammy Awards-----------------------4------------- 17
MTV Europe Music Awards------------1------------- 1
MTV Video Music Awards-------------10------------ 21
People's Choice Awards---------------1------------- 1
Teen Choice Awards-------------------2-------------2
Boston Music Awards------------------2------------- 6
MTV Movie Awards--------------------0-------------1


from a sales standpoint...

Kiss - 80 million records worldwide, 19 million in the United States.

Aerosmith - 150 million albums worldwide, including 66.5 million albums in the United States alone.



No matter how ya look at it.. sales, awards, etc.. Aerosmith DWARVES Kiss

It also looks like Aerosmith fans don't really care about the "shit being pulled on them" since, just on sales alone it appears they have roughly TWICE AS MANY worldwide... and THREE TIMES as many in the US alone... the KISSArmy may be big... but the AeroForce appears to be a tad BIGGER...

KISS never canceled a gig on their fans then proceeded to lie to these fans and called the cancellation "routing issues".

I saw Aerocrap in concert twice and they were the two worst concerts I've attended out of 150 shows. Bottom line is Aerocrap has a lead vocalist who can't sing. And from recent video clips he can't dance either.

KISS just released one of their best cds. No outside song writers. Entire process took only 2 or 3 months to complete. When was the last time Aerocrap did that? They've been "recording" their latest studio cd for the past 8 years. The band can't write a song without Marti Frederiksen, Mark Hudson, Diane Warren, and Desmond Child.

Aerosmith released "I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing". KISS wins.

WHAT EXACTLY DOES KISS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD?

Andrew wrote:WHAT EXACTLY DOES KISS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD?

I don't know either, but...