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Are you worried about H1N1 flu?

Postby Voyager » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:36 am

This video is interesting:

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From Wikipedia:

The 2009 flu pandemic is a global outbreak of a new strain of an influenza A virus subtype H1N1, officially referred to as the novel H1N1, first identified in April 2009, and commonly called swine flu in North America and Mexican flu in some countries. It is thought to be a reassortment of four known strains of influenza A virus: one endemic in humans, one endemic in birds, and two endemic in pigs (swine). Transmission of the new strain is human-to-human. Cooked pork products will not transmit the virus.

The outbreak began in Mexico, with evidence that Mexico had already been in the midst of an epidemic for months before the outbreak was recognized. Soon after, its government closed down most of Mexico City's public and private offices and facilities to help contain the spread. In early June, as the virus spread globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared the outbreak to be a pandemic, but also noted that most illnesses were of moderate severity. As the virus was spreading with unprecedented speed, many clinics were overwhelmed testing and treating patients, and WHO and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stopped reporting all cases, focusing more on large outbreaks.

The virus spreads via coughing, sneezing, or touching contaminated surfaces and then touching the nose or mouth. Symptoms, which last up to a week, are similar to those of seasonal flu, and can include fever, sneezes, sore throat, coughs, headache, and muscle or joint pains. The CDC noted that although this was a very serious virus, cases worldwide were usually mild, and most hospitalizations and deaths had been of persons that also had underlying conditions such as asthma, diabetes, obesity, heart disease, or a weakened immune system.

To avoid spreading the infection, the CDC recommended that those with symptoms stay home from school, work, and crowded settings. Wearing facial masks was reported to be of "limited benefit".


Info about vaccines:

What are the plans for developing 2009 H1N1 vaccine?
Vaccines are the most powerful public health tool for control of influenza, and the U.S. government is working closely with manufacturers to take steps in the process to manufacture a 2009 H1N1 vaccine. Working together with scientists in the public and private sector, CDC has isolated the new H1N1 virus and modified the virus so that it can be used to make hundreds of millions of doses of vaccine. Vaccine manufacturers are now using these materials to begin vaccine production. Making vaccine is a multi-step process which takes several months to complete. Candidate vaccines will be tested in clinical trials over the few months.

When is it expected that the 2009 H1N1 vaccine will be available?
The 2009 H1N1 vaccine is expected to be available in the fall. More specific dates cannot be provided at this time as vaccine availability depends on several factors including manufacturing time and time needed to conduct clinical trials

Will the seasonal flu vaccine also protect against the 2009 H1N1 flu?
The seasonal flu vaccine is not expected to protect against the 2009 H1N1 flu.

Can the seasonal vaccine and the 2009 H1N1 vaccine be given at the same time?
It is anticipated that seasonal flu and 2009 H1N1 vaccines may be administered on the same day. However, we expect the seasonal vaccine to be available earlier than the H1N1 vaccine. The usual seasonal influenza viruses are still expected to cause illness this fall and winter. Individuals are encouraged to get their seasonal flu vaccine as soon as it is available.

Who will be recommended to receive the 2009 H1N1 vaccine?
CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) has recommended that certain groups of the population receive the 2009 H1N1 vaccine when it first becomes available. These target groups include pregnant women, people who live with or care for children younger than 6 months of age, healthcare and emergency medical services personnel, persons between the ages of 6 months and 24 years old, and people ages of 25 through 64 years of age who are at higher risk for 2009 H1N1 because of chronic health disorders or compromised immune systems.

We do not expect that there will be a shortage of 2009 H1N1 vaccine, but availability and demand can be unpredictable. There is some possibility that initially the vaccine will be available in limited quantities. In this setting, the committee recommended that the following groups receive the vaccine before others: pregnant women, people who live with or care for children younger than 6 months of age, health care and emergency medical services personnel with direct patient contact, children 6 months through 4 years of age, and children 5 through 18 years of age who have chronic medical conditions.

The committee recognized the need to assess supply and demand issues at the local level. The committee further recommended that once the demand for vaccine for these target groups has been met at the local level, programs and providers should begin vaccinating everyone from ages 25 through 64 years. Current studies indicate the risk for infection among persons age 65 or older is less than the risk for younger age groups. Therefore, as vaccine supply and demand for vaccine among younger age groups is being met, programs and providers should offer vaccination to people over the age of 65.

Do those that have been previously vaccinated against the 1976 swine influenza need to get vaccinated against the 2009 H1N1 influenza?
The 1976 swine flu virus and the 2009 H1N1 virus are different enough that its unlikely a person vaccinated in 1976 will have full protection from the 2009 H1N1. People vaccinated in 1976 should still be given the 2009 H1N1 vaccine.

Where will the vaccine be available?
Every state is developing a vaccine delivery plan. Vaccine will be available in a combination of settings such as vaccination clinics organized by local health departments, healthcare provider offices, schools, and other private settings, such as pharmacies and workplaces. For more information, see State/Jurisdiction Contact Information for Health Care Providers Interested in Providing H1N1 Vaccine.

Will this vaccine be made differently than the seasonal influenza vaccine?

No. This vaccine will be made using the same processes and facilities that are used to make the currently licensed seasonal influenza vaccines.

Are there other ways to prevent the spread of illness?
Take everyday actions to stay healthy.

•Cover your nose and mouth with a tissue when you cough or sneeze. Throw the tissue in the trash after you use it.
•Wash your hands often with soap and water, especially after you cough or sneeze. If soap and water are not available, use an alcohol-based hand rub.*
•Avoid touching your eyes, nose or mouth. Germs spread that way.
•Stay home if you get sick. CDC recommends that you stay home from work or school and limit contact with others to keep from infecting them.

Follow public health advice regarding school closures, avoiding crowds and other social distancing measures. These measures will continue to be important after a 2009 H1N1 vaccine is available because they can prevent the spread of other viruses that cause respiratory infections.

What about the use of antivirals to treat 2009 H1N1 infection?
CDC has issued interim guidance for the use of antiviral drugs for this season. CDC also has published Questions & Answers related to the use of antiviral drugs for this season.

Will two doses of vaccine be required?
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved the use of one dose of 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine for persons 10 years of age and older. Data from trials among children are not available at this time, so dosing schedules for children are not yet known. Data from trials among children will be available soon. At this time, FDA has approved two doses for children 9 years of age and younger. Immunogenicity data for the 2009 flu H1N1 vaccine among adults is similar to that for seasonal influenza vaccines. If this is also the case among children, then it is likely that younger children will require two doses and older children will require one dose, as licensed. As with seasonal vaccine, children ages 6 months through 35 months get two doses of 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine that contains one-half the dose used for older children and adults.

What will be the recommended interval between the first and second dose for children 9 years of age and under?
This will not be known until clinical trials are complete. For planning purposes, planners should assume 21-28 days between the first and second vaccination.

Can seasonal vaccine and novel H1N1 vaccine be administered at the same time?
Inactivated 2009 H1N1 vaccine can be administered at the same visit as any other vaccine, including pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine. Live 2009 H1N1 vaccine can be administered at the same visit as any other live or inactivated vaccine EXCEPT seasonal live attenuated influenza vaccine



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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:41 am

Worried? No more than for the seasonal, nope. We've seen patients with it already, they are over it in a week or less, same exact symptoms as seasonal. I spoke with a CDC head not too long ago, and this "novel" H1N1 isn't any more virulent than seasonal. Deaths occur with people with other complicating or underlying conditions, same as with seasonal. There is already a component of H1N1 in the seasonal vaccine, has been for years, but supposedly not the same as this newer once, so that's why they are developing a newer separate vaccine for this year.
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Postby mikemarrs » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:45 am

anyone avoiding or worried about taking this vaccine?
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:04 am

mikemarrs wrote:anyone avoiding or worried about taking this vaccine?


Honestly, myself, other nurses I work with, and even our MD's are kind of hesitant about it since it's new, no trial studies yet, etc., but we'll see. The reported numbers of cases of actual swine flu are VERY distorted because we were told one of the major hospitals here, as well as other places, are simply doing the rapid flu test on patients and if they're positive at all, they are just assuming and treating as swine flu. Which is wrong. Those rapid tests are only for influenza A and B in general and NOT a test for swine flu at all. Testing for swine flu is a culture only, and takes days to come back from a reference lab, you can NOT be told that same day that you 100% for sure have swine flu, and certainly not within minutes at some doctor's office, clinic, or E.R. So the numbers and media drama behind it all are overblown.
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Postby mikemarrs » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:09 am

Melissa wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:anyone avoiding or worried about taking this vaccine?


Honestly, myself, other nurses I work with, and even our MD's are kind of hesitant about it since it's new, no trial studies yet, etc., but we'll see. The reported numbers of cases of actual swine flu are VERY distorted because we were told one of the major hospitals here, as well as other places, are simply doing the rapid flu test on patients and if they're positive at all, they are just assuming and treating as swine flu. Which is wrong. Those rapid tests are only for influenza A and B in general and NOT a test for swine flu at all. Testing for swine flu is a culture only, and takes days to come back from a reference lab, you can NOT be told that same day that you 100% for sure have swine flu, and certainly not within minutes at some doctor's office, clinic, or E.R. So the numbers and media drama behind it all are overblown.



thanks for the info.i just try to take vitamins and get plenty of rest.honestly the vaccine thing worries me because of there not being a lot of facts known yet.
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Postby Blueskies » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:11 am

I'm not worried about this at all....maybe because I'm not the worrying type to start with. I figure we take our chances everyday in everyday things anyway...could take a slip in the shower, get in a car accident...even walking and not looking.....sudden heart attack while watching TV...who knows.
Not to be recklessy foolish...I think some common sense measures in activities should be taken and in this case some who may need to get immunized due to a weakened immune system from another condition, should.....but I don't think it's something otherwise healthy people need to be worried about.
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:18 am

There are a lot of viruses that wouldn't spread so much at all if people did 2 simple things: wash their hands, and stay home when sick. Pretty simple, yet so hard for SO many to understand.
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Postby Lula » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:54 am

as a teacher and momma my concern is with the students and my baby. i have a student in class today with a cough and runny nose. i wish parents would keep their children home when they are clearly sick.

melissa- are your children going to get the h1n1 vaccine? is it an additional shot beyong the regular seasonal flu shot? i've heard that some of the little ones need two shots. got any info?
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:07 am

I don't really care, and I sure as shit ain't getting that vaccine - look at what happened in the 70s last time they "vaccinated" people for this shit.
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:21 am

Not worried about it. Not getting the vaccine.
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Postby mikemarrs » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:42 am

Ehwmatt wrote:I don't really care, and I sure as shit ain't getting that vaccine - look at what happened in the 70s last time they "vaccinated" people for this shit.



the 1976 swine flu vaccine debacle. The vaccine killed more people than the virus.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:43 am

mikemarrs wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:I don't really care, and I sure as shit ain't getting that vaccine - look at what happened in the 70s last time they "vaccinated" people for this shit.



the 1976 swine flu vaccine debacle. The vaccine killed more people than the virus.


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Postby *Laura » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:52 am

I wasn't really worried until now, but considering that I'll be flying for 17 hours in a sealed environment with all kinds of people, I'm a bit concerned. There are always a few irresponsible persons who decide to travel when sick. They probably think that a few sneezes and a few coughs mean nothing.
We are instructed to sanitize our hands all the time and even to wear a mask if we happen to sit next to individuals who present even the slightest symptoms, but besides washing hands who the heck would wear a Jackson-style mask?...I haven't seen anyone doing that.
Another solution ? People who present signs of a cold/flu should be stopped to travel somehow. A quick medical check-up at customs would probably help, but that would delay everything like crazy.
Anyway, there wasn't a time when I flew anywhere without having several people in the plane under the weather. They just don't care.

Not going to get any vaccine. I'll just keep my hands tidy, avoid touching to much stuff around me and hide my face in my jacket if someone coughs in my general direction. Sigh.
I think I'll do the same in a fart-alert case. :lol: It's amazing how many people have no consideration for their fellow travel companions. :(
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:52 am

Lula wrote:as a teacher and momma my concern is with the students and my baby. i have a student in class today with a cough and runny nose. i wish parents would keep their children home when they are clearly sick.

melissa- are your children going to get the h1n1 vaccine? is it an additional shot beyong the regular seasonal flu shot? i've heard that some of the little ones need two shots. got any info?


Hey Lula- It is separate from the seasonal, and the same protocol as seasonal so far we've been told for first timers between 6 months and 9 years, 2 vaccines a month apart if never received before. That could change though of course, but that's the last we've heard.

So far, no I don't plan to have mine get it, or plan to myself either, and I don't think my husband will either if his dept. offers it. We've all had our seasonal vaccines already as every year, and I'm just going to stick with that for now. A brand new vaccine with no trials is just too iffy to me.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:55 am

Melissa wrote:There are a lot of viruses that wouldn't spread so much at all if people did 2 simple things: wash their hands, and stay home when sick. Pretty simple, yet so hard for SO many to understand.


Exactly. Omg, the hand-washing thing... SO bugs me! I'm moderately OCD about it... I'm not so extreme that I refuse to touch things or leave the house, or do that closed-fist hand greeting like Howie Mandel... but I do travel around with antibac hand gel and things like that. If I'm not where a sink is, it's better than nothing.

Grocery carts freak me out. I hate touching them. This started one day when I saw a baby in a cart with his whole mouth all over the handle, and first I thought about all the people who haven't washed their hands after coughing and sneezing and now this baby had his mouth on all that grossness, then I realized I was pushing a cart that had probably also been gripped on by boogery, unwashed folks.... BLARGH!!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:56 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Melissa wrote:There are a lot of viruses that wouldn't spread so much at all if people did 2 simple things: wash their hands, and stay home when sick. Pretty simple, yet so hard for SO many to understand.


Exactly. Omg, the hand-washing thing... SO bugs me! I'm moderately OCD about it... I'm not so extreme that I refuse to touch things or leave the house, or do that closed-fist hand greeting like Howie Mandel... but I do travel around with antibac hand gel and things like that. If I'm not where a sink is, it's better than nothing.

Grocery carts freak me out. I hate touching them. This started one day when I saw a baby in a cart with his whole mouth all over the handle, and first I thought about all the people who haven't washed their hands after coughing and sneezing and now this baby had his mouth on all that grossness, then I realized I was pushing a cart that had probably also been gripped on by boogery, unwashed folks.... BLARGH!!


Every time I start washing my hands compulsively, I get sick.
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:03 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Melissa wrote:There are a lot of viruses that wouldn't spread so much at all if people did 2 simple things: wash their hands, and stay home when sick. Pretty simple, yet so hard for SO many to understand.


Exactly. Omg, the hand-washing thing... SO bugs me! I'm moderately OCD about it... I'm not so extreme that I refuse to touch things or leave the house, or do that closed-fist hand greeting like Howie Mandel... but I do travel around with antibac hand gel and things like that. If I'm not where a sink is, it's better than nothing.

Grocery carts freak me out. I hate touching them. This started one day when I saw a baby in a cart with his whole mouth all over the handle, and first I thought about all the people who haven't washed their hands after coughing and sneezing and now this baby had his mouth on all that grossness, then I realized I was pushing a cart that had probably also been gripped on by boogery, unwashed folks.... BLARGH!!


Exactly, it is so gross. I HATE women's public bathrooms, because there are SO many women who never wash their hands, even spritzy little well to do looking princesses :lol: . It's disgusting. Being a nurse for so long now I'm like you, and my hands are aging WAY faster than I am because of all the hand washing, lol. I travel with that stuff too, esp. having kids.

I've seen parents LET their babies do that too, and it's so gross. I also REFUSE to use salt or pepper shakers at restaurants (I never salt anything anyway) after seeing a baby suck on the top of a salt shaker at one once, and the parents just sat there and let him.
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:10 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Every time I start washing my hands compulsively, I get sick.


That's because a decent exposure to germs and bacteria keep your immunity strong and your anti-bodies built up. I stay clean, don't get me wrong, I don't walk around snotting up the world and picking grime off myself. I'm hygienically-conscious, just as most normal people are. But I'm far from a germ-o-phobe. I have no problem being around people with the flu, or strep, or whatever. I don't compulsively lather alcohol-gel after touching the bathroom doorknob.

And I've been sick (as in fever, feel shitty, stay home and watch the Price Is Right with kleenex cause I can't move) twice this decade.

I have no scientific evidence to back up my theory, but it works for me. What I find odd though, is that I can be around someone who is sick with the flu or something, and not get sick, but go be around someone else and they catch it off me. Even though I have no symptoms or problems. I have no idea what that means. I can't even remember my last cold to be honest.
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Postby Voyager » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:10 am

Melissa wrote:There are a lot of viruses that wouldn't spread so much at all if people did 2 simple things: wash their hands, and stay home when sick. Pretty simple, yet so hard for SO many to understand.


So much for option #1:

According to some experts, you can wash your hands all you want, and it won't do much to stop the spread of influenza, including the H1N1 variety.

"Washing hands really is wonderful for preventing many diseases, such as the common cold, but it's not very helpful to prevent influenza," said Arthur Reingold, professor of epidemiology at the University of California-Berkeley.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/24/ha ... g.helpful/

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Postby AlteredDNA » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:14 am

Rhiannon wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Every time I start washing my hands compulsively, I get sick.


That's because a decent exposure to germs and bacteria keep your immunity strong and your anti-bodies built up. I stay clean, don't get me wrong, I don't walk around snotting up the world and picking grime off myself. I'm hygienically-conscious, just as most normal people are. But I'm far from a germ-o-phobe. I have no problem being around people with the flu, or strep, or whatever. I don't compulsively lather alcohol-gel after touching the bathroom doorknob.

And I've been sick (as in fever, feel shitty, stay home and watch the Price Is Right with kleenex cause I can't move) twice this decade.

I have no scientific evidence to back up my theory, but it works for me. What I find odd though, is that I can be around someone who is sick with the flu or something, and not get sick, but go be around someone else and they catch it off me. Even though I have no symptoms or problems. I have no idea what that means. I can't even remember my last cold to be honest.


I'm exactly the same way, Rhi. EXCEPT - I have the flu this week - fairly mild, but the first time I have ever been sick with the flu in my life. The last time I was anywhere near this sick was definitely well over 10 years ago.
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Postby LtVanish » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:14 am

I still call it Swine Flu because it just sounds so terrible.. You've got Swine Flu :shock:
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:16 am

Melissa, if I call in sick, two things happen:

1- The lazy fat fuckin Mexican who "works" with me will find or clear an 8 foot section on the dog food aisle and sleep away his 8 hr shift, all the while talking on his cell to his gang member buds about busting hot slugs into some poor white guy,

and

2- My Boss will have a coronary.


You're right though, and I agree 100%
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Postby Peartree12249 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:18 am

No, it seems that it hits folks under 50 and especially children the hardest. They think people over 50 have been exposed to it already and have developed some immunity.

I work in long-term-care as a consultant and will probably get a vaccines for seasonal flu (much more dangerous for the elderly) and possibly swine flu. I am a little concerned about the swine flu vaccine. The last time there was an outbreak in the 70's or early 80's I believe, they gave vaccines & some people developed Gillian Barre syndrome. A very serious & scary condition. My uncle got it. He woke up one morning and he couldn't move his leg & within 24 hours he was completely paralyzed and on a vent for over a month. It took months of hospitalization & two years of rehabilitation to get him back and he never completetly recovered.
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:20 am

LtVanish wrote:I still call it Swine Flu because it just sounds so terrible.. You've got Swine Flu :shock:


I vote that "swine flu" is what we all call what happens when your buddy leaves the bar with a less-than-attractive individual. "Dude, did you hear? He got the swine flu last night!"

@Todd... get well soon, son! I keep thinking I'll jinx myself, but I don't. Shit, I'd love to get sick, I haven't had time off to just relax in forever. Lucky.
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Postby AlteredDNA » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:26 am

Rhiannon wrote:
LtVanish wrote:I still call it Swine Flu because it just sounds so terrible.. You've got Swine Flu :shock:


I vote that "swine flu" is what we all call what happens when your buddy leaves the bar with a less-than-attractive individual. "Dude, did you hear? He got the swine flu last night!"

@Todd... get well soon, son! I keep thinking I'll jinx myself, but I don't. Shit, I'd love to get sick, I haven't had time off to just relax in forever. Lucky.


Thanks - I'm just about over it today, and it wasn't that bad on me - wife and daughter going through it now, a little rougher on them, but they're taking meds - they're both smarter than I am... :)
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:27 am

Voyager wrote:
Melissa wrote:There are a lot of viruses that wouldn't spread so much at all if people did 2 simple things: wash their hands, and stay home when sick. Pretty simple, yet so hard for SO many to understand.


So much for option #1:

According to some experts, you can wash your hands all you want, and it won't do much to stop the spread of influenza, including the H1N1 variety.

"Washing hands really is wonderful for preventing many diseases, such as the common cold, but it's not very helpful to prevent influenza," said Arthur Reingold, professor of epidemiology at the University of California-Berkeley.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/24/ha ... g.helpful/

:?


I don't believe that, that it doesn't help at all, but hey, JMO then. Mr. Professor can walk around not bothering to wash his hands then, good for him :roll: :lol: I'm not over the top compulsive about it either, but it makes a difference, and if people only knew how gross things in public really are...
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Postby AlteredDNA » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:30 am

Melissa wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Melissa wrote:There are a lot of viruses that wouldn't spread so much at all if people did 2 simple things: wash their hands, and stay home when sick. Pretty simple, yet so hard for SO many to understand.


So much for option #1:

According to some experts, you can wash your hands all you want, and it won't do much to stop the spread of influenza, including the H1N1 variety.

"Washing hands really is wonderful for preventing many diseases, such as the common cold, but it's not very helpful to prevent influenza," said Arthur Reingold, professor of epidemiology at the University of California-Berkeley.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/24/ha ... g.helpful/

:?


I don't believe that, that it doesn't help at all, but hey, JMO then. Mr. Professor can walk around not bothering to wash his hands then, good for him :roll: :lol: I'm not over the top compulsive about it either, but it makes a difference, and if people only knew how gross things in public really are...


Sometimes too much knowledge isn't necessarily a good thing... ;)

My wife's a nurse as well, so I've learned way more than I ever wanted to know about "yucky-gross" things...
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:31 am

Rhiannon wrote:
LtVanish wrote:I still call it Swine Flu because it just sounds so terrible.. You've got Swine Flu :shock:


I vote that "swine flu" is what we all call what happens when your buddy leaves the bar with a less-than-attractive individual. "Dude, did you hear? He got the swine flu last night!"

@Todd... get well soon, son! I keep thinking I'll jinx myself, but I don't. Shit, I'd love to get sick, I haven't had time off to just relax in forever. Lucky.


Nah, what you've said makes sense Rhi, I don't catch anything easily at all either because of what I've worked around for so long. The thing with nurses though, esp. in my specialty, is that when we do (rarely) get sick, it's usually BAD, lol.
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:34 am

Rockindeano wrote:My Boss will have a coronary.


No I understand that, and it sucks a lot of employers are assholes when someone is sick, or their child is sick.
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:37 am

Melissa wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:My Boss will have a coronary.


No I understand that, and it sucks a lot of employers are assholes when someone is sick, or their child is sick.


Yeah, well what about people like me who come to work not sick, but pass along their little brother's strep to everyone else after sharing a drink on a weekend trip home? Should I stay home too? LOL... where do we draw the rationality line? :P

God, I make myself sound like a damn petri dish or something. :shock:
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