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Rip Rokken wrote:I have to admit, as much as I hated Vista, the only hope I had for Windows 7 was that it would be a bit quicker and less confusing to navigate thru. I planning on sticking with XP as long as I could.
I got the opportunity to switch over at the office about a week ago, and was so impressed that I've swapped to Windows 7 on my home PCs and laptop as well. I'm HIGHLY pleased with it. Wasn't quite sure when I saw it took just about as much disk space as Vista from a clean install (almost 8GB), but looks were deceiving. It's extremely quick and responsive -- even moreso than XP on each of my systems. My networked office PC (Core 2 Duo w/3GB RAM) boots up and is ready to go in 1:50, just under two minutes. My main home PC is a P4HT 3.0 with 2.5GB RAM, and my wife's is a P4HT 2.8 with only 1GB of RAM. It runs like a dream on both of them. Mine boots up and is ready to go at 55 freaking seconds -- that includes typing in both BIOS and Windows passwords, and I'm running Avast antivirus. Just got thru installing it on my laptop, an Intel Centrino 1.73GHz with 1.5GB of RAM, and aside from the fact the video chipset isn't compatible with Aero Glass, it's awesome.
Overall, it just has a much lighter feel, and proves that there was never a reason to purchase ungodly amounts of hardware just to smoothly run your O/S. And speaking of Aero Glass, it is smooth as it can be on each of my desktop PCs, including my wife's PC which is just running onboard graphics -- nothing fancy.
Several improvements overall, including a much smarter taskbar, MUCH better organized and easier access to your stuff (you don't have to navigate thru several levels of shell folders to find your freakin' hard drive or a network resource anymore). Also, they've done away with tons of pop-up interruptions, and give you an easy way to corral and control all the Notification Area (formerly System Tray) icons.
Another thing I notice right away is how much smoother multimedia content runs, especially while surfing the Web. For example, if I watch a YouTube video, it seems to stream much quicker and smoother than before, and if I jump ahead it loads quicker. Who'da thunkit?
Overall, it's quicker in just about every area, seemingly surpassing even XP in performance. They've reduced a bunch of headache by eliminating needless crap and endless mouse-clicks to get to where you want to go or do what you want to do. Windows 7 has really breathed new life into my existing equipment and made my 2-3 year old systems run like new. So I'm very pleased, but still give Microsoft a big F.U. for trying to force Vista on us for the past few years. What a piece of bloated, overcomplicated crap that was.
Anyone else running it yet?
Rick wrote:It's not available yet for commercial purchase yet, is it?
I beta tested it, and was happy with the performance of it. It didn't fully support my video card, and then when they came out with Release Candidate 1, it didn't support it at all. So I had to ditch it. When the RTM version hits the torrent sites, I'm going to download it and see if they fixed the problem with my video card before I run out and buy it. I'd hate to have to replace the video card. It was fairly outrageous when I bought it.
Aaron wrote:Thanks for the info. I bought a new machine last spring that has Vista on it. What a slow, unstable POS this thing is. It's running an AMD Phenom quad core at 2.2 Gz with 6 GB of RAM. The new machine is slower the 5 year old machine I replaced that used XP. I'm debating on whether to try Windows 7 now.
Rip Rokken wrote:Rick wrote:It's not available yet for commercial purchase yet, is it?
I beta tested it, and was happy with the performance of it. It didn't fully support my video card, and then when they came out with Release Candidate 1, it didn't support it at all. So I had to ditch it. When the RTM version hits the torrent sites, I'm going to download it and see if they fixed the problem with my video card before I run out and buy it. I'd hate to have to replace the video card. It was fairly outrageous when I bought it.
No, but we got it early via Microsoft. I'm running the Enterprise edition. Funny you mentioned the video card. My office system was the only one I upgraded directly (it had Vista Business on it). The upgrade kept failing until I removed my new nVidia card, then I reinstalled it after the upgrade was complete and it is fine. The rest of my systems had XP so I did a clean install on each. Win7 recognized all hardware on each of them, except my HP laptop which has an Intel 915x Mobile chipset. Had to experiment with a mix of Vista and XP drivers for video, sound, networking, mass storage, and Infrared to get them going and everything is stable. The only other thing I had problems with at first was my LaserJet 1012 printer -- HP claims it's not compatible with Windows 7, but on a tip from the Web I used a 1015 driver and it works perfectly. Now how hard would that have been to fix? I love my 1012.
bluejeangirl76 wrote:So, Rip... Help me out a sec... I have a desktop and a laptop - both running Vista- if I upgrade from Vista, not clean install, will that suffice in making things better? Now, with the desktop - I have an issue with my printer... if I shut it off, I keep having to reinstall it every time because fucking goddamn piece of holy crap Vista keeps forgetting it's there... maybe this won't happen with W7? Damn printer has been on for about a year because I got sick of Vista not finding it.
I've heard decent things about 7 so far, and this is more good news. I cannot wait to stop dealing with this horsecrapular Vista mess.
bluejeangirl76 wrote:So, Rip... Help me out a sec... I have a desktop and a laptop - both running Vista- if I upgrade from Vista, not clean install, will that suffice in making things better? Now, with the desktop - I have an issue with my printer... if I shut it off, I keep having to reinstall it every time because fucking goddamn piece of holy crap Vista keeps forgetting it's there... maybe this won't happen with W7? Damn printer has been on for about a year because I got sick of Vista not finding it.
I've heard decent things about 7 so far, and this is more good news. I cannot wait to stop dealing with this horsecrapular Vista mess.
Rick wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:So, Rip... Help me out a sec... I have a desktop and a laptop - both running Vista- if I upgrade from Vista, not clean install, will that suffice in making things better? Now, with the desktop - I have an issue with my printer... if I shut it off, I keep having to reinstall it every time because fucking goddamn piece of holy crap Vista keeps forgetting it's there... maybe this won't happen with W7? Damn printer has been on for about a year because I got sick of Vista not finding it.
I've heard decent things about 7 so far, and this is more good news. I cannot wait to stop dealing with this horsecrapular Vista mess.
If I may...
Upgrading to 7 will give you all the benefits of 7, including a faster computer.
As far as your printer goes, you will need to go to the Microsoft website and look at the hardware compatibility list, when that becomes available.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compat ... fault.aspx
If your printer isn't on there, then you can do something like Rip did and use another driver that will work. That's going to be a tough one though, because not many people are tech savvy enough to pull that one off. Rip is, evidently.He's my new tech guru/idol.
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Rick wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:So, Rip... Help me out a sec... I have a desktop and a laptop - both running Vista- if I upgrade from Vista, not clean install, will that suffice in making things better? Now, with the desktop - I have an issue with my printer... if I shut it off, I keep having to reinstall it every time because fucking goddamn piece of holy crap Vista keeps forgetting it's there... maybe this won't happen with W7? Damn printer has been on for about a year because I got sick of Vista not finding it.
I've heard decent things about 7 so far, and this is more good news. I cannot wait to stop dealing with this horsecrapular Vista mess.
If I may...
Upgrading to 7 will give you all the benefits of 7, including a faster computer.
As far as your printer goes, you will need to go to the Microsoft website and look at the hardware compatibility list, when that becomes available.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compat ... fault.aspx
If your printer isn't on there, then you can do something like Rip did and use another driver that will work. That's going to be a tough one though, because not many people are tech savvy enough to pull that one off. Rip is, evidently.He's my new tech guru/idol.
Well, my printer came with an install disk for XP (and earlier). So I have to get the new Vista drivers for it. I believe I sent in for the CD from HP. The Vista drivers... hahahaha... forget it. I had SO many hardware issues with Vista. The makers of my wireless card never came out with a vista compatible driver BUT the card worked with the new Vista PC... for about 4 months... in month 4, out of nowhere, I started to get blue screen of death constantly. after another few weeks I discovered it was the stupid network card crashing it. I never suspected it because it worked fine for 4 whole months. Then it was the damn printer... Vista drivers or not, it still refuses to play nice with the printer. Vista is the biggest piece of shit ever.
Rick wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Vista is the biggest piece of shit ever.
Agreed. It's probably worse then Windows ME, which was a huge turd.
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Rick wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Vista is the biggest piece of shit ever.
Agreed. It's probably worse then Windows ME, which was a huge turd.
My ME system froze the hell up 3 minutes out of the box!
T-Bone wrote: I'd like to say I gave it an honest chance, but it didn't impress me at all other than a few cool features...
Rick wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:Rick wrote:It's not available yet for commercial purchase yet, is it?
I beta tested it, and was happy with the performance of it. It didn't fully support my video card, and then when they came out with Release Candidate 1, it didn't support it at all. So I had to ditch it. When the RTM version hits the torrent sites, I'm going to download it and see if they fixed the problem with my video card before I run out and buy it. I'd hate to have to replace the video card. It was fairly outrageous when I bought it.
No, but we got it early via Microsoft. I'm running the Enterprise edition. Funny you mentioned the video card. My office system was the only one I upgraded directly (it had Vista Business on it). The upgrade kept failing until I removed my new nVidia card, then I reinstalled it after the upgrade was complete and it is fine. The rest of my systems had XP so I did a clean install on each. Win7 recognized all hardware on each of them, except my HP laptop which has an Intel 915x Mobile chipset. Had to experiment with a mix of Vista and XP drivers for video, sound, networking, mass storage, and Infrared to get them going and everything is stable. The only other thing I had problems with at first was my LaserJet 1012 printer -- HP claims it's not compatible with Windows 7, but on a tip from the Web I used a 1015 driver and it works perfectly. Now how hard would that have been to fix? I love my 1012.
Veddy interestink. My video card is nVidia. hmmmm..... I'll remember that procedure if it happens to me. Thanks for the info sir.
bluejeangirl76 wrote:So, Rip... Help me out a sec... I have a desktop and a laptop - both running Vista- if I upgrade from Vista, not clean install, will that suffice in making things better? Now, with the desktop - I have an issue with my printer... if I shut it off, I keep having to reinstall it every time because fucking goddamn piece of holy crap Vista keeps forgetting it's there... maybe this won't happen with W7? Damn printer has been on for about a year because I got sick of Vista not finding it.
I've heard decent things about 7 so far, and this is more good news. I cannot wait to stop dealing with this horsecrapular Vista mess.
Rick wrote:If your printer isn't on there, then you can do something like Rip did and use another driver that will work. That's going to be a tough one though, because not many people are tech savvy enough to pull that one off. Rip is, evidently.He's my new tech guru/idol.
Rick wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Rick wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Vista is the biggest piece of shit ever.
Agreed. It's probably worse then Windows ME, which was a huge turd.
My ME system froze the hell up 3 minutes out of the box!
That was supposed to be a big transition version of Windows, bridging 9x to NT. They had a great idea, but it fuckin flopped.
So far, XP is the I-ching of all OS's as far as I am concerned.
T-Bone wrote:I agree that Win 7 is a HUGE step up from Vista. Although Vista had some cool features, it was a system hog and required too much from the processor, video and memory. The one downfall of Vista in my opinion was the folder setups. Instead of the My Documents like XP had, it had a different type in interface that I HATED with a passion. When i'd go into my 2nd or 3rd hard drive to check for something, it would open those drives in that folder setup. If I clicked on MUSIC, it went right back to the C Drive in the music section instead of staying in the 2nd or 3rd hard drive. I'd set the view to stay at LIST and then would set it so that ALL folders would stay like that, but every time I'd open the folder again, it was back to details and would have the tabs at the top with Date Modified, Size, Type, Artist, etc... I finally uninstalled it after 4 weeks of fighting with it. I had it dual booted with XP on my machine. I'd like to say I gave it an honest chance, but it didn't impress me at all other than a few cool features... I can't wait to get a real version of Win 7 on my machine and get rid of this trial version.
T-Bone wrote:I had to do a little research for my video card drivers as well, and found that the Vista 64 drivers for the Nvidia XFX GTX 260 Black Edition will also work with Windows 7. I see now that they've updated the drivers on the XFX website so that the Vista 64 bit also says Windows 7 to avoid the confusion
trekman wrote:Will Windows 7 be a FREE upgrade for Vista users?
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