MR

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:46 am**

The real emergency is that our government is a joke.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:58 am**

The hospital where I work is filled to capacity and patients are being diverted to anywhere there are beds available in this 2.5 million people metro area. We are attempting to find staff to be able to open up more beds (often limited by nursing availability). ICU beds are difficult to find anywhere. I don't think the government is making up the numbers because I am seeing it firsthand. It is also difficult to get anti-flu medication for children in community pharmacies because of the shortage. I'm not generalizing for the rest of the country, just saying what it's like here.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:03 am**

Fact Finder wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:The real emergency is that our government is a joke.

Yesterday there was a Swine Flu Vaccination Clinic held in Hamilton, Oh at the fairgrounds. Hamilton is north of Cincinnati. Now get this.......there were cars in the parking lot from Georgia, Tennessee and Indiana spotted. WTF???

Um, maybe family visiting? Maybe people who moved there who haven't changed their plates yet? And Indiana is VERY close to Cincy.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:24 am**

Fact Finder wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:The real emergency is that our government is a joke.

Yesterday there was a Swine Flu Vaccination Clinic held in Hamilton, Oh at the fairgrounds. Hamilton is north of Cincinnati. Now get this.......there were cars in the parking lot from Georgia, Tennessee and Indiana spotted. WTF???

Um, maybe family visiting? Maybe people who moved there who haven't changed their plates yet? And Indiana is VERY close to Cincy.

Um no."People receiving the vaccine don’t have to be Butler County residents because the vaccine is issued by the federal government, Burg said. Thursday’s crowd included a lot of people from outside the county and many from differentstates, she said."
No, these folks actually came from out of town to get the shot.

um yeah, I bet there were TONS of Georgia tags!! :lol:

out of town does not mean that many from THAT far away. Reading too much into your facts

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:29 am**

And about that vaccine clinic. Gee the swine flu is spreading rapidly!!! Thousands dying!!! Let's gather the largest group we can in one place and see how much more we can spread it! Brilliant! :roll:

if we are in a true state of emergency wouldn't it be smarter to avoid large crowds???

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:31 am**

Fact Finder wrote:Check this out from yesterday....unreal!

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... =Itemnr=17

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... =Itemnr=14

These people are going to catch the flu before they get the vaccine. :lol:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:31 am**

This is retarded. This so called swine flu is no different than the regular flu. The regular flu kills more people worldwide twice as much as the swine flu has already killed. It's the flu, plain and simple. Same symptoms, same everything. It's the damn flu, something modern society has been dealing with for hundreds of years.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:36 am**

YoungJRNY wrote:This is retarded. This so called swine flu is no different than the regular flu. The regular flu kills more people worldwide twice as much as the swine flu has already killed. It's the flu, plain and simple. Same symptoms, same everything. It's the damn flu, something modern society has been dealing with for hundreds of years.

Agreed.

My daughter said her friends mother died from it. She was supposedly a perfectly healthy woman, which I find a bit difficult to believe. But I've never met her, so I can't really say. I just don't see H1N1 killing anyone who isn't already compromised health-wise in some way.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:36 am**

Rick wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Check this out from yesterday....unreal!

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... =Itemnr=17

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... =Itemnr=14

These people are going to catch the flu before they get the vaccine.

great minds think alike :lol:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:37 am**

Rick wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:This is retarded. This so called swine flu is no different than the regular flu. The regular flu kills more people worldwide twice as much as the swine flu has already killed. It's the flu, plain and simple. Same symptoms, same everything. It's the damn flu, something modern society has been dealing with for hundreds of years.

Agreed.

My daughter said her friends mother died from it. She was supposedly a perfectly healthy woman, which I find a bit difficult to believe. But I've never met her, so I can't really say. I just don't see H1N1 killing anyone who isn't already compromised health-wise in some way.

When people say that, I suspect it means they were perfectly healthy on the outside but had some underlying things going on that perhaps they didn't even know about. Not too different from the proverbial 40-something fitness nut who drops dead on a morning run due to having hereditary heart disease/clogged arteries.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:39 am**

Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:This is retarded. This so called swine flu is no different than the regular flu. The regular flu kills more people worldwide twice as much as the swine flu has already killed. It's the flu, plain and simple. Same symptoms, same everything. It's the damn flu, something modern society has been dealing with for hundreds of years.

Agreed.

My daughter said her friends mother died from it. She was supposedly a perfectly healthy woman, which I find a bit difficult to believe. But I've never met her, so I can't really say. I just don't see H1N1 killing anyone who isn't already compromised health-wise in some way.

When people say that, I suspect it means they were perfectly healthy on the outside but had some underlying things going on that perhaps they didn't even know about. Not too different from the proverbial 40-something fitness nut who drops dead on a morning run due to having hereditary heart disease/clogged arteries.

That's EXACTLY why I choose not to exercise. That and I'm a lazy bastard. :lol:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:39 am**

I need this explained to me. I clicked the link and looked for the rest of the article, thinking it would say more than just:

"The emergency declaration enhances the ability of medical treatment facilities to handle a spike in influenza A(H1N1) patients by allowing them to implement emergency plans thanks to federal requirement waivers"

What "plans" are being implemented and what are these federal requirements that are being waived? You know, this is why I don't read the news nearly as much anymore as I should. I used to, back in the day when they bothered explaining to you what in hell they were talking about. Now I have to go and try to find other stories that fill in the blanks, or operate on the cliff notes version and reading the news has become homework for people like me who aren't content to accept "this is what they're doing." and want to know the how and where and why. :evil:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:40 am**

bluejeangirl76 wrote:I need this explained to me. I clicked the link and looked for the rest of the article, thinking it would say more than just:

"The emergency declaration enhances the ability of medical treatment facilities to handle a spike in influenza A(H1N1) patients by allowing them to implement emergency plans thanks to federal requirement waivers"

What "plans" are being implemented and what are these federal requirements that are being waived? You know, this is why I don't read the news nearly as much anymore as I should. I used to, back in the day when they bothered explaining to you what in hell they were talking about. Now I have to go and try to find other stories that fill in the blanks, or operate on the cliff notes version and reading the news has become homework for people like me who aren't content to accept "this is what they're doing." and want to know the how and where and why.

You're high maintenance aren't you? :lol:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:45 am**

StevePerryHair wrote:And about that vaccine clinic. Gee the swine flu is spreading rapidly!!! Thousands dying!!! Let's gather the largest group we can in one place and see how much more we can spread it! Brilliant! if we are in a true state of emergency wouldn't it be smarter to avoid large crowds???

Yeah, I thought the same thing. :lol:

My whole thing is "You're sick? Get your ass away from me!" I have a co-worker who has been sick twice in the last two weeks - and she came in to work sick both times :evil:

- and my boss sent her home both times. :lol:

She does not want sick people in the office and has no problem saying "Go home where you belong!" I love that about her.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:53 am**

Rick wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:I need this explained to me. I clicked the link and looked for the rest of the article, thinking it would say more than just:

"The emergency declaration enhances the ability of medical treatment facilities to handle a spike in influenza A(H1N1) patients by allowing them to implement emergency plans thanks to federal requirement waivers"

What "plans" are being implemented and what are these federal requirements that are being waived? You know, this is why I don't read the news nearly as much anymore as I should. I used to, back in the day when they bothered explaining to you what in hell they were talking about. Now I have to go and try to find other stories that fill in the blanks, or operate on the cliff notes version and reading the news has become homework for people like me who aren't content to accept "this is what they're doing." and want to know the how and where and why.

You're high maintenance aren't you?

Shush, you! Not high maintenance. But I'm not a sheeple who is content to accept what THE MAN tells me and not ask questions or look for further details. :lol:

If they mean to spead all this media hype again, they really need to stop with this cliff notes stuff. We had the swine flu scare once already this year and now that this news is back, it's the same thing as before... "eeek the sky is falling". That's not helping anything.

Now I'm going to go read the facts that fact finder found for me... thank you fact finder, I figured you would know where to find the facts.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:04 am**

Sorry naysayers and Obama haters, I've got a family member who travels to hospitals around the country and emergency rooms are filled to capacity, triple the regular numbers and it's all swine flu.

Grow up and stop blaming the government when it's doing its job.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:47 am**

Ehwmatt wrote:The real emergency is that our government is a joke.

I agree... and you can thank this guy for most of it:

Good luck to Obama trying to fix all the shit Bush fucked up.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:57 am**

Voyager wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:The real emergency is that our government is a joke.

I agree... and you can thank this guy for most of it:

Good luck to Obama trying to fix all the shit Bush fucked up.

Gas wasn't $4 a gallon when Bamster took office (like your photo suggests). And unemployment certainly wasn't nearing 10% like it is now. Our tax cut that Bush gave us is expiring at the end of the year, syphoning even more out of the private sector! It's only going to get worse, guided by Bamster's growth killing policies.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:03 am**

When such an emergency is declared by the President, how many jobs and how much revenue does this create? I'm sure it does increase business for hospitals, the pharmacutical companies that manufacture the drugs and the media gets something to spend their time talking about and reporting/writing stories on it.

Meanwhile, the first lady is playing in the yard with her hula hoops. Just curious why this first lady is only in the news talking about what they feed the family dog, her love in playing with hula hoops and shopping at J.Crew? Maybe I'm wrong but I always thought the first lady was involved in doing things related to political business while she's in the White House. Oh that reminds me, shouldn't that house's name be changed to something more cultural friendly...like the "People's House", "Your House", "Our House", "Power House", "Yes We Did House", etc. The White House just sounds so......White....for some reason.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:11 am**

RedWingFan wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:The real emergency is that our government is a joke.

I agree... and you can thank this guy for most of it:

Good luck to Obama trying to fix all the shit Bush fucked up.

Gas wasn't $4 a gallon when Bamster took office (like your photo suggests).

No, but that was the straw that broke the camel's back and sent the economy tumbling. The toxic mortgage loans were part of the cause, but allowing the gasoline prices to double under your watch is a sure way to wreck an economy. The price of shipping and delivering goods doubled, and companies had to lay off workers and/or increase prices to make up for the added expense of delivering their good or services. Then the people with bad mortgage loans got laid off and then their homes were foreclosed. All under the watch of Dubya. Now Obama is trying to clean up his mess. More power to him, I hope he can succeed.

We had to deal with eight years of incompetency with Bush. So now it's the Dems turn to see if they can fix his mess. If not, then we're all fucked.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:58 am**

Fact Finder wrote:I post this to get all sides on record...

Tuesday, October 20, 2009

Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan told an audience in Memphis on Sunday that they should refuse to take the H1N1 vaccine because it is a soft kill weapon designed to reduce global population.

Farrakhan has never shied from controversy and has previously spoken out on 9/11 being an inside job and how the international central bankers control the U.S. government.

“The Earth can’t take 6.5 billion people. We just can’t feed that many. So what are you going to do? Kill as many as you can. We have to develop a science that kills them and makes it look as though they died from some disease,” Farrakhan said, adding that many wise people won’t take the vaccine,” reports United Press International.

“The black community has become toxic and must cleanse and restore peace from within,” Farrakhan added.

As we have documented previously, the use of vaccines to sterilize minority populations and induce abortions is on the record.

I'm not quite sure lunatic fringe qualifies as a "Side". :lol:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:03 am**

I can't wait for YoMama to declare that all citizens (comrades) will be *required* to take the H1N1 vacination "for our own safety."

That might be the straw that actually makes the camel bite back....there's enough people in this country with Obama overreaching his authority...that he if forces people to take a stupid, half-baked coctail to fight the fucking common flu....It might just turn this country into revolt.

BTW, Voyager....you keep believing that YoMama is actually 'fixing' what Hayseed broke. :roll:

I'm not denying that Bush didn't fucking piss in the punch bowl for this country....but by using that same analogy.....YoMama is taking the punch bowl, putting it on the floor....taking a big, smelly watery shit into it.....stirring it up....and signing law requiring everyone at the party to take a sip.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:15 pm**

YoungJRNY wrote:This is retarded. This so called swine flu is no different than the regular flu. The regular flu kills more people worldwide twice as much as the swine flu has already killed. It's the flu, plain and simple. Same symptoms, same everything. It's the damn flu, something modern society has been dealing with for hundreds of years.

EXACTLY. This ruse is apparently based on the fact that 1,000 people have died. Not to dismiss the number, because I am not, and because anybody dealing with a death in their family is going through hell, BUT...this number is out of how many hundreds of millions of people in the US? Not to mention that the people who are losing their lives are doing so because they are immune compromised already. He is setting up the scenario to declare martial law. He is going after holistic doctors who are giving advice on how to prevent the flu. What does that tell you???

The truth is the vaccine is worse than the flu. I'm hightailing it out of here before Mrs. Hair finds me, but I'll be back. :wink:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:21 pm**

yak wrote:
The truth is the vaccine is worse than the flu. I'm hightailing it out of here before Mrs. Hair finds me, but I'll be back.

lol

i am just concerned about bringing some middle school germs into wy's world. i shower as soon as i get home. middle schools are the perfect breeding ground for all sorts of things, lovely little children :evil:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:42 pm**

Lula wrote:
yak wrote:
The truth is the vaccine is worse than the flu. I'm hightailing it out of here before Mrs. Hair finds me, but I'll be back.

lol

i am just concerned about bringing some middle school germs into wy's world. i shower as soon as i get home. middle schools are the perfect breeding ground for all sorts of things, lovely little children

I understand your plight. The kids need to take control themselves and take precautions, but that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. Doesn't your school send sick children home? That would solve a lot of problems. The admins need to take back control of the schools, and let the schools and teachers do what's best for the kids. Things are too insane. Prevention is key. Make sure you constantly wash your hands, and teach Wyatt to do the same; that is the single most thing that prevents illnesses. He'll do it automatically in the future - he'll go off to kindergarten and teach the other kids. I'm sure you know that already.

Are you sure you want to be seen "talking" to me on a public board? :wink:

Kissing butt and all that.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:56 pm**

i heard somewhere that the allergy meds people take help against the flu... the nasal type medicine. maybe i was dreaming. }:CP

i've been taking flonase for a few years & i haven't gotten sick as much as i used to get before i started taking the nasal allergy meds. when i do it comes & goes pretty quickly. that & i don't take any type of cold medicine... i will take tylenol but that's about it. i feel if you tough it out it just makes your immune system stronger.

if i had a little one i would prolly get some sanitizing wipes & wipe EVERYTHING they may touch... maybe get some sanitizing spray too & make sure they're getting their vitamins... & drinking enough water. }:C)

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:00 pm**

i would be a little nervous having my child take this h1n1 vaccine. only because it hasn't been around long. }:C/

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:08 pm**

yak wrote:

I understand your plight. The kids need to take control themselves and take precautions, but that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. Doesn't your school send sick children home? That would solve a lot of problems. The admins need to take back control of the schools, and let the schools and teachers do what's best for the kids. Things are too insane. Prevention is key. Make sure you constantly wash your hands, and teach Wyatt to do the same; that is the single most thing that prevents illnesses. He'll do it automatically in the future - he'll go off to kindergarten and teach the other kids. I'm sure you know that already.

Are you sure you want to be seen "talking" to me on a public board? Kissing butt and all that.

our nurse does not risk anything, she sends 'em home. our little health clinic is insane with customers. i have a jumbo bottle of hand sanitizer, my desk is off limits, and i spray the desks, shelves, door handles, etc. with disinfectant. wyatt doesn't go to day care so he gets what we bring home or out at market, park, and stuff. clean hands is key!

kiss kiss :lol:

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:31 pm**

treetopovskaya wrote:i heard somewhere that the allergy meds people take help against the flu... the nasal type medicine. maybe i was dreaming. }:CP

i've been taking flonase for a few years & i haven't gotten sick as much as i used to get before i started taking the nasal allergy meds. when i do it comes & goes pretty quickly. that & i don't take any type of cold medicine... i will take tylenol but that's about it. i feel if you tough it out it just makes your immune system stronger.

if i had a little one i would prolly get some sanitizing wipes & wipe EVERYTHING they may touch... maybe get some sanitizing spray too & make sure they're getting their vitamins... & drinking enough water. }:C)

I haven't heard about allergy meds specifically helping to prevent the flu, however, nasal washes may help....maybe that's where that came from.....

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:51 pm**

This is what you risk if you let them shoot you up with the "H1N1 vaccine."

MR

Obama declares swine flu emergency