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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:17 amPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:23 amPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:31 pmPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:37 pmScarabGator wrote:glad we gave him an excellent farewell party in the swamp last saturday.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:01 amPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:11 amRed13JoePa wrote:Shame.
And FSU hasn't reached NEARLY the bowl-less depths Penn St hit for 4 years earlier this decade....
Difference here is Paterno through The Dark Years as we call it in PSUdom never lost the majority of alumni or boosters the way they turned on Bowden in Tallahassee.
The President of the university wanted Joe out but didn;t have the power against the majority of boosters/alumns.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:19 amScarabGator wrote:
In the state of Florida football is huge, especially college. You are expected to win championships-if you are not winning championships then you go away, its that simple.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:30 amRockindeano wrote:ScarabGator wrote:
In the state of Florida football is huge, especially college. You are expected to win championships-if you are not winning championships then you go away, its that simple.
LOL. All three teams cheat their asses off. Players are there for a stopover and lunch and free shoes. Bowden won two championships. The guy is a legend. When Urban Meyer gets to number 2 all time, let me know. I would laugh like Hell if he went to Notre Dame. It's the greatest job in college football, bar none. They can buy him out of Florida's contract 20 times over. Don't put it past Meyer to go, especially now that his QB lover has to leave to go play flanker in Tampa Bay or St Louis.
You want to see college football or football madness in general, go to the state of Texas. It dwarfs Florida, California, wherever for football fever.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:04 amScarabGator wrote:Rockindeano wrote:ScarabGator wrote:
In the state of Florida football is huge, especially college. You are expected to win championships-if you are not winning championships then you go away, its that simple.
LOL. All three teams cheat their asses off. Players are there for a stopover and lunch and free shoes. Bowden won two championships. The guy is a legend. When Urban Meyer gets to number 2 all time, let me know. I would laugh like Hell if he went to Notre Dame. It's the greatest job in college football, bar none. They can buy him out of Florida's contract 20 times over. Don't put it past Meyer to go, especially now that his QB lover has to leave to go play flanker in Tampa Bay or St Louis.
You want to see college football or football madness in general, go to the state of Texas. It dwarfs Florida, California, wherever for football fever.
Only problem with that theory is Urban has already stated no Notre Dame and his wife followed up with how happy she and the kids are in Florida.
How do they cheat? I cant speak for FSU or Miami but Ive never heard of a cheating scandal at UF so I dont know what you are talking about...and as close as my family are to that school I think we'd have heard something.
Sure, players stopover for lunch, maybe a cup of coffee..it sucks when you are rich with NFL talent in one state I guess. Who can blame them for using the exposure they get in the state of Florida to fulfill their dreams of playing in the NFL.
And one more for the flanker/Tebow thing...several teams are looking at Tebow for QB...yes, QB. Buffalo is one that just said they'd take him with a very early pick if still available.....Jacksonville has said they will take him, Miami, the list goes on and on....
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:09 amRockindeano wrote:ScarabGator wrote:Rockindeano wrote:ScarabGator wrote:
In the state of Florida football is huge, especially college. You are expected to win championships-if you are not winning championships then you go away, its that simple.
LOL. All three teams cheat their asses off. Players are there for a stopover and lunch and free shoes. Bowden won two championships. The guy is a legend. When Urban Meyer gets to number 2 all time, let me know. I would laugh like Hell if he went to Notre Dame. It's the greatest job in college football, bar none. They can buy him out of Florida's contract 20 times over. Don't put it past Meyer to go, especially now that his QB lover has to leave to go play flanker in Tampa Bay or St Louis.
You want to see college football or football madness in general, go to the state of Texas. It dwarfs Florida, California, wherever for football fever.
Only problem with that theory is Urban has already stated no Notre Dame and his wife followed up with how happy she and the kids are in Florida.
How do they cheat? I cant speak for FSU or Miami but Ive never heard of a cheating scandal at UF so I dont know what you are talking about...and as close as my family are to that school I think we'd have heard something.
Sure, players stopover for lunch, maybe a cup of coffee..it sucks when you are rich with NFL talent in one state I guess. Who can blame them for using the exposure they get in the state of Florida to fulfill their dreams of playing in the NFL.
And one more for the flanker/Tebow thing...several teams are looking at Tebow for QB...yes, QB. Buffalo is one that just said they'd take him with a very early pick if still available.....Jacksonville has said they will take him, Miami, the list goes on and on....
Hey I love Timmy, but I am also a realistic. He isn't playing QB at the next level dude, at least not starting at QB. He may hold a clipboard and someday be an offensive coordinator. I love the way he is into the game itself. Much like Peyton manning. However, that shit UF runs doesn't play in Peoria much less Buffalo, Jacksonville or any other NFL town. Love to see him attempt a jump pass at the 4 yd line against Ray Lewis. He would be as flat as a decal.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:29 amRockindeano wrote:ScarabGator wrote:Rockindeano wrote:ScarabGator wrote:
In the state of Florida football is huge, especially college. You are expected to win championships-if you are not winning championships then you go away, its that simple.
LOL. All three teams cheat their asses off. Players are there for a stopover and lunch and free shoes. Bowden won two championships. The guy is a legend. When Urban Meyer gets to number 2 all time, let me know. I would laugh like Hell if he went to Notre Dame. It's the greatest job in college football, bar none. They can buy him out of Florida's contract 20 times over. Don't put it past Meyer to go, especially now that his QB lover has to leave to go play flanker in Tampa Bay or St Louis.
You want to see college football or football madness in general, go to the state of Texas. It dwarfs Florida, California, wherever for football fever.
Only problem with that theory is Urban has already stated no Notre Dame and his wife followed up with how happy she and the kids are in Florida.
How do they cheat? I cant speak for FSU or Miami but Ive never heard of a cheating scandal at UF so I dont know what you are talking about...and as close as my family are to that school I think we'd have heard something.
Sure, players stopover for lunch, maybe a cup of coffee..it sucks when you are rich with NFL talent in one state I guess. Who can blame them for using the exposure they get in the state of Florida to fulfill their dreams of playing in the NFL.
And one more for the flanker/Tebow thing...several teams are looking at Tebow for QB...yes, QB. Buffalo is one that just said they'd take him with a very early pick if still available.....Jacksonville has said they will take him, Miami, the list goes on and on....
Hey I love Timmy, but I am also a realistic. He isn't playing QB at the next level dude, at least not starting at QB. He may hold a clipboard and someday be an offensive coordinator. I love the way he is into the game itself. Much like Peyton manning. However, that shit UF runs doesn't play in Peoria much less Buffalo, Jacksonville or any other NFL town. Love to see him attempt a jump pass at the 4 yd line against Ray Lewis. He would be as flat as a decal.
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:43 amEhwmatt wrote:
Would Ray Lewis stab him too?
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:11 amScarabGator wrote:And one more for the flanker/Tebow thing...several teams are looking at Tebow for QB...yes, QB. Buffalo is one that just said they'd take him with a very early pick if still available
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:15 amPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:56 amGunbot wrote:After four years, Tebow still holds the ball below his waist when he gets ready to throw, he will be a turnover machine in the NFL if that doesn't get fixed. I wonder if his coaches at Florida tried to fix that but found him unable to adapt?
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:58 amRed13JoePa wrote:Gunbot wrote:After four years, Tebow still holds the ball below his waist when he gets ready to throw, he will be a turnover machine in the NFL if that doesn't get fixed. I wonder if his coaches at Florida tried to fix that but found him unable to adapt?
In the NFL he's a tight end or an HBack from the old Redskins system. Maybe even a fullback but not a qb. Any experiment w/ him under center will be an epic failure.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:03 amEhwmatt wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:Gunbot wrote:After four years, Tebow still holds the ball below his waist when he gets ready to throw, he will be a turnover machine in the NFL if that doesn't get fixed. I wonder if his coaches at Florida tried to fix that but found him unable to adapt?
In the NFL he's a tight end or an HBack from the old Redskins system. Maybe even a fullback but not a qb. Any experiment w/ him under center will be an epic failure.
Here's hoping he fades away. I'm so sick of hearing about him. Nothing against the guy personally, but I'm just tired of hearing about it.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:04 amRed13JoePa wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:Gunbot wrote:After four years, Tebow still holds the ball below his waist when he gets ready to throw, he will be a turnover machine in the NFL if that doesn't get fixed. I wonder if his coaches at Florida tried to fix that but found him unable to adapt?
In the NFL he's a tight end or an HBack from the old Redskins system. Maybe even a fullback but not a qb. Any experiment w/ him under center will be an epic failure.
Here's hoping he fades away. I'm so sick of hearing about him. Nothing against the guy personally, but I'm just tired of hearing about it.
Agreed. And I blame ESPN not Tebow, who from all indications is an unbelievable kid.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:35 amPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:50 amZedul wrote:Actually as far as Texas dwarfing California and Florida?
California has produced more NFL football players than any other state.
Florida is #2 barely over Texas at #3
There are 24 Division 1 colleges in California.... 10 with Div1 football programs.
There are 21 Division 1 colleges in Texas.... 10 with Div1 football programs.
There are 13 Division 1 colleges in Florida.... 4 with Div1 football programs.
Graduation rates in California schools are higher than Texas and Florida.
California boasts 2 big time academic schools with Division 1 talent - a very difficult task.
Florida colleges with football programs have BY FAR the worst graduation rates of those three states - is it because people in Florida are more likely to be stupid or because they don't give a crap about academics at all?
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:01 amPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:15 amZedul wrote: There are 13 Division 1 colleges in Florida.... 4 with Div1 football programs.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:17 amZedul wrote:
California boasts 2 big time academic schools with Division 1 talent - a very difficult task.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:20 amPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:30 amEhwmatt wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:Gunbot wrote:After four years, Tebow still holds the ball below his waist when he gets ready to throw, he will be a turnover machine in the NFL if that doesn't get fixed. I wonder if his coaches at Florida tried to fix that but found him unable to adapt?
In the NFL he's a tight end or an HBack from the old Redskins system. Maybe even a fullback but not a qb. Any experiment w/ him under center will be an epic failure.
Here's hoping he fades away. I'm so sick of hearing about him. Nothing against the guy personally, but I'm just tired of hearing about it.
or what the Vikings have to do now to love Favre... sports is so ironic that way!!
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:32 amRed13JoePa wrote:Zedul wrote: There are 13 Division 1 colleges in Florida.... 4 with Div1 football programs.
Florida, Miami, FL St, South Florida, Florida Atlantic, Central Florida, there's 5 and that's just off the top of my head. Plus that school that had the brawl w/ Miami, they're a D1A....
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:34 amPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:08 amGunbot wrote:Doesn't UCLA have one of the best medical schools in the world? I think you can include that school with Cal and Stanford when it comes to Academics.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:14 amRockindeano wrote:In Texas, High School football trumps NBA Mavericks, NHL Stars and Ranger Baseball. It's a fucking fever pitch sport in Texas.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:13 amEnigma869 wrote:Rockindeano wrote:In Texas, High School football trumps NBA Mavericks, NHL Stars and Ranger Baseball. It's a fucking fever pitch sport in Texas.
I'm with Dean on this one. It's not even debatable. You do realize that "Friday Night Lights" is all about high school football in Texas, right? There isn't a state on the planet who is half as nuts as Texas is when it comes to high school football. It's almost bizarre that they can turn out 25K people for a high school football game, when many high schools in other parts of the country have a problem drawing 500 people. Florida is a VERY strong state when it comes to college football in terms of the support their teams get, but a big part of it is that it's one of the absolute worst states in the union when it comes to pro sports. The teams all suck and so do the fans.