Sports Illustrated Coaches Of Decade

[Enigma869]

Interesting list. I couldn't disagree more with Jackson being number one. The guy is the biggest fraud in the history of sports and has never coached any team that he ever had to build. If the team didn't have the best players in the NBA, Jackson wasn't interested in coaching that team!



1. Phil Jackson
2. Bill Belichick
3. Joe Torre
4. Terry Francona
5. Tony Dungy
6. Gregg Popovich
7. Geno Auriemma
8. Roy Williams
9. Urban Meyer
10 Tom Izzo


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/m ... ?eref=sihp

[ScarabGator]

Damn right Urban Meyer should be on that list. My only problem is he should be a hell of a lot higher than #9.

[Ehwmatt]

Phil jackson is a complete dick.

[Red13JoePa]

Interesting list.


7. Geno Auriemma

Er, sorry. Mens' sports only. Shameless cowtowing to the PC police. Pat Summit is better anyway.

[Ehwmatt]

Popovich should be higher on that list too. The guy has instilled a system in SA for over a decade that has worked even through the turnover of players and even key stars. The continuity in both the team's success and its identity from The Admiral's era to the Duncan era is truly something to be marveled at.

[YoungJRNY]

Interesting list. I couldn't disagree more with Jackson being number one. The guy is the biggest fraud in the history of sports and has never coached any team that he ever had to build. If the team didn't have the best players in the NBA, Jackson wasn't interested in coaching that team!



1. Phil Jackson
2. Bill Belichick
3. Joe Torre
4. Terry Francona
5. Tony Dungy
6. Gregg Popovich
7. Geno Auriemma
8. Roy Williams
9. Urban Meyer
10 Tom Izzo


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/m ... ?eref=sihp

"I can care less what some douche bag, dead beat, fat sports writer writes" (laughs)

Good list.

[Michigan Girl]

Popovich should be higher on that list too. .

I agree, love Pops!!!

[Rockindeano]

I'll tell you who should be on that list and a Helluva lot higher than Urban Meyer...Ron Gardenhire of the Twins. That guy does more with less than any coach in sports. I am so happy that that Count Dracula Mr Spock lookin' motherfucker coach K didn't make the list although I would have him on there for sure. He wins and graduates his players.

We should make a list of the top ten worst coaches too.

I can think of a few off the top of my head.

[ScarabGator]

Deano, as much as I wanna continue tooting Urban's horn I have to agree-Gardenhire is a terrific manager/coach. Does wonders with the Twins with much less than the normal contenders.

[Ehwmatt]

I'll tell you who should be on that list and a Helluva lot higher than Urban Meyer...Ron Gardenhire of the Twins. That guy does more with less than any coach in sports. I am so happy that that Count Dracula Mr Spock lookin' motherfucker coach K didn't make the list although I would have him on there for sure. He wins and graduates his players.

We should make a list of the top ten worst coaches too.

I can think of a few off the top of my head.

Good call on Gardenhire even though MLB is a rotting cesspool, joke of a sport. I hate baseball with a passion

[Rockindeano]

Good call on Gardenhire even though MLB is a rotting cesspool, joke of a sport. I hate baseball with a passion

I would much rather go to a MLB game than an NBA contest of free throws and imaginary fouls and fake defense. I would rather see Ichiro hit a triple down the left field line as he is on the run through the batter's box than see Shaq dunk another gimme. How about Roy Halladay dealing a filthy backdoor slider to Albert Pulos for a called third strike or Allen Iverson bitching and whining yet again for that painted free throw line tripping him up on the way to the hole?

[Ehwmatt]

Good call on Gardenhire even though MLB is a rotting cesspool, joke of a sport. I hate baseball with a passion

I would much rather go to a MLB game than an NBA contest of free throws and imaginary fouls and fake defense. I would rather see Ichiro hit a triple down the left field line as he is on the run through the batter's box than see Shaq dunk another gimme. How about Roy Halladay dealing a filthy backdoor slider to Albert Pulos for a called third strike or Allen Iverson complain yet again for that painted free throw line tripping him up on the way to the hole?

You're living in the 90s, the NBA simply isn't like that any more. All the best teams play great D. It has its flaws too, especially the whining (here's lookin at you LeBald), to be sure, but it's a lot better than watching fat alcoholics throw perfect games and the same two-four major market teams put the best team uncapped money can buy out there.

[Saint John]

The NBA is at an all-time low as far as talent and fundamentals go. Kobe, Wade and Chris Paul are the only guys that are legitimate "superstars" that know and understand the game, and care to play defense and try to make those around them better. I would include Tim Duncan, but he is on the downside of an incredible career. LeBron James is a fraud and is one of the most overhyped athletes as of right now in the history of sports. Basketball is nothing more than an organized penal league with traces of euro trash.

[Enigma869]

The NBA is at an all-time low as far as talent and fundamentals go. Kobe, Wade and Chris Paul are the only guys that are legitimate "superstars" that know and understand the game, and care to play defense and try to make those around them better. I would include Tim Duncan, but he is on the downside of an incredible career. LeBron James is a fraud and is one of the most overhyped athletes as of right now in the history of sports. Basketball is nothing more than an organized penal league with traces of euro trash.

I definitely agree about the NBA, but not sure that it's really anything new. When I was growing up, almost everyone had a jump shot and the "bad" free throw shooters shot 70%. I would say for most of the past 15 years, the NBA is a joke. Nobody can fucking shoot to save their lives. You have a guy like Rasheed Wallace who should be playing in the low post taking three pointers and point guards (hello Rajon Rondo) who hit free throws at less than 50%. Complete embarrassment. A guy like Larry Bird shot just about 90% from the free throw line for his career and now it seems nobody gets close to that. The NBA is mostly unwatchable for me, even though I force myself to watch from time to time.

[Ehwmatt]

The NBA is at an all-time low as far as talent and fundamentals go. Kobe, Wade and Chris Paul are the only guys that are legitimate "superstars" that know and understand the game, and care to play defense and try to make those around them better. I would include Tim Duncan, but he is on the downside of an incredible career. LeBron James is a fraud and is one of the most overhyped athletes as of right now in the history of sports. Basketball is nothing more than an organized penal league with traces of euro trash.

I definitely agree about the NBA, but not sure that it's really anything new. When I was growing up, almost everyone had a jump shot and the "bad" free throw shooters shot 70%. I would say for most of the past 15 years, the NBA is a joke. Nobody can fucking shoot to save their lives. You have a guy like Rasheed Wallace who should be playing in the low post taking three pointers and point guards (hello Rajon Rondo) who hit free throws at less than 50%. Complete embarrassment. A guy like Larry Bird shot just about 90% from the free throw line for his career and now it seems nobody gets close to that. The NBA is mostly unwatchable for me, even though I force myself to watch from time to time.

Every sport has its critiques like this with people longing for the golden days of fundamentals and variety/completeness in games. Tennis, for example, catches a lot of flak because the racquet/string technology that has evolved has homogenized the game into power baseliners (you don't see people serving & volleying like McEnroe anymore). I've been to pro tournaments and seen guys who hit the ball a ton from the back of the court and have stone hands up at the net. There are a lot of people who constantly bemoan that. Hell, it bothers me a bit because I play an all-court game. But at the end of the day, the guys are still athletic freaks and finely tuned machines and that's what I pay to see.

I think basketball and every other sport sees these evolutions too as guys get more athletic and things change to suit certain games While the free throw stuff is a fair critique (and another reason why LeBron will never be great if/until he gets his FT act together), the fact of the matter is that back in the day, an average big guy like Sheed didn't have the athleticism or talent to knock down Js and were forced to play post games.

I don't think the talent is down, I just think the talent manifests itself in different ways as the game evolves and athleticism changes. I wanna see athleticism and excitement and the NBA delivers that in spades in my eyes. Watching some fat fuck trot out from the bullpen amid 5-minute commercials spitting shit everywhere does nothing for me, especially when about 3 teams can legitimately compete for a title. Yes, there's tons of skill involved in pitching and hitting, but like golf, it doesn't impress me too much to sit there and watch it for 3 hours.

[Ehwmatt]

The NBA is at an all-time low as far as talent and fundamentals go. Kobe, Wade and Chris Paul are the only guys that are legitimate "superstars" that know and understand the game, and care to play defense and try to make those around them better. I would include Tim Duncan, but he is on the downside of an incredible career. LeBron James is a fraud and is one of the most overhyped athletes as of right now in the history of sports. Basketball is nothing more than an organized penal league with traces of euro trash.

You realize Duncan's having one of his best statistical seasons in a while this year right? In fact, he's the only reason his otherwise disappointing squad (thus far) is staying afloat. I thought they were gonna do major damage with Jefferson, Blair, and the addition of vets like McDyess.

[Michigan Girl]

Complete Bushwa..there are more than three superstars in the NBA
that know and understand the game...

[Saint John]

Complete Bushwa..there are more than three superstars in the NBA
that know and understand the game...

Then let's hear them or close your blow hole.

[Michigan Girl]

Complete Bushwa..there are more than three superstars in the NBA
that know and understand the game...

Then let's hear them or close your blow hole.

Nash, Garnett, Howard...to start!!!

[Saint John]

Complete Bushwa..there are more than three superstars in the NBA
that know and understand the game...

Then let's hear them or close your blow hole.

Nash, Garnett, Howard...to start!!!

Steve Nash doesn't play defense, Garnett isn't a superstar anymore and Howard is very immature at times. He's on the brink of being a superstar, but I don't think he's quite there yet. Thanks for trying, though!

[Ehwmatt]

Complete Bushwa..there are more than three superstars in the NBA
that know and understand the game...

Then let's hear them or close your blow hole.

First of all, how the fuck could you leave out Steve Nash?

Melo, Dirk, Joe Johnson, Dwight Howard, Durant, LeBron, Kevin Garnett (who looks surprisingly young thus far) and wait til Chris Bosh gets put into a good situation and the guy will be downright frightening. I'd also be willing to put Billups on this list because the guy has been so damn good, so fundamentally sound, and such an integral team player for whatever team he is on (look at what happened to the Pistons as soon as he left), that you can overlook that he's not as glamorous or puts up quite as many eye popping numbers as some of the other guys.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some very good players too.

[Ehwmatt]

Complete Bushwa..there are more than three superstars in the NBA
that know and understand the game...

Then let's hear them or close your blow hole.

Nash, Garnett, Howard...to start!!!

Steve Nash doesn't play defense, Garnett isn't a superstar anymore and Howard is very immature at times. He's on the brink of being a superstar, but I don't think he's quite there yet. Thanks for trying, though!

Garnett's not a superstar yet Boston went from being a scary defending champ to being a pretender with his injury last year and now they are right back to scary status with his surprising return to form. Wish in one hand, shit in the other, huh Dan?

Howard lacks offensive variety and he would do well to get rid of that goofy grin but the guy is a huge impact player.

[X factor]

The NBA is at an all-time low as far as talent and fundamentals go. Kobe, Wade and Chris Paul are the only guys that are legitimate "superstars" that know and understand the game, and care to play defense and try to make those around them better. I would include Tim Duncan, but he is on the downside of an incredible career. LeBron James is a fraud and is one of the most overhyped athletes as of right now in the history of sports. Basketball is nothing more than an organized penal league with traces of euro trash.

I definitely agree about the NBA, but not sure that it's really anything new. When I was growing up, almost everyone had a jump shot and the "bad" free throw shooters shot 70%. I would say for most of the past 15 years, the NBA is a joke. Nobody can fucking shoot to save their lives. You have a guy like Rasheed Wallace who should be playing in the low post taking three pointers and point guards (hello Rajon Rondo) who hit free throws at less than 50%. Complete embarrassment. A guy like Larry Bird shot just about 90% from the free throw line for his career and now it seems nobody gets close to that. The NBA is mostly unwatchable for me, even though I force myself to watch from time to time.

Every sport has its critiques like this with people longing for the golden days of fundamentals and variety/completeness in games. Tennis, for example, catches a lot of flak because the racquet/string technology that has evolved has homogenized the game into power baseliners (you don't see people serving & volleying like McEnroe anymore). I've been to pro tournaments and seen guys who hit the ball a ton from the back of the court and have stone hands up at the net. There are a lot of people who constantly bemoan that. Hell, it bothers me a bit because I play an all-court game. But at the end of the day, the guys are still athletic freaks and finely tuned machines and that's what I pay to see.

I think basketball and every other sport sees these evolutions too as guys get more athletic and things change to suit certain games While the free throw stuff is a fair critique (and another reason why LeBron will never be great if/until he gets his FT act together), the fact of the matter is that back in the day, an average big guy like Sheed didn't have the athleticism or talent to knock down Js and were forced to play post games.

I don't think the talent is down, I just think the talent manifests itself in different ways as the game evolves and athleticism changes. I wanna see athleticism and excitement and the NBA delivers that in spades in my eyes. Watching some fat fuck trot out from the bullpen amid 5-minute commercials spitting shit everywhere does nothing for me, especially when about 3 teams can legitimately compete for a title. Yes, there's tons of skill involved in pitching and hitting, but like golf, it doesn't impress me too much to sit there and watch it for 3 hours.

+ 100!!!

But I agree about Phil Jackson- I've thought he was a fraud for years.Belichick shoudl easily be number 1. AND Pat Summit's omission from this list is a HUGE joke.

[Michigan Girl]

Thanks Matty, I was going to mention Chaunc, but I still hurt...

[Saint John]

Chauncey Billups is a "superstar" in terms of leadership, experience and making players around him better, but as an offensive and defensive player he's not. Those other guys are "numbers" guys and aren't interested in anything but numbers. Kobe, Paul and Wade are guys that only care about winning. Steve Nash isn't shit. Nothing more than a poor man's John Stockton. Dirty fucker, too. Always looks unbathed.

[Michigan Girl]

I guess I didn't follow your definition of a superstar....
I'd like to add Ben Gordon!!

I agree w/you on Chaunc,....god I miss him!!!

[Saint John]

I'd like to add Ben Gordon!!

Ben Gordon?!?! He's only slightly fucking better than Benny The Bull!!!

[Michigan Girl]

Allen Iverson bitching and whining yet again for that painted free throw line tripping him up on the way to the hole?

Well there ya go +1...this^^^^^gives the NBA a bad name!!! Great, great sport though!!

[Saint John]

Allen Iverson bitching and whining yet again for that painted free throw line tripping him up on the way to the hole?

Well there ya go +1...this^^^^^gives the NBA a bad name!!! Great, great sport though!!

I, too, agree with Dean. Jordan was another fucking crybaby that got phantom calls. Except when he pushed off to beat Utah for the championship. But, hey, it was only being watched by 10's of millions of people. Why make the obvious call.

[Tomulator]

Where's Tressel??

He should be on there for sure.

Peace and Love everybody!