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Re the story on the front page. anyone know what is meant by Beatles camp and the largest union in the world? When I read Roger's email I couldn't help wondering if he was having some form of breakdown. David Ike sprung to mind.

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Duncan wrote:Re the story on the front page. anyone know what is meant by Beatles camp and the largest union in the world? When I read Roger's email I couldn't help wondering if he was having some form of breakdown. David Ike sprung to mind.

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All I know is Andrew kicked his ass

He's an advocate for people buying music legally, instead of stealing it and ripping off the artist.... yet he when he sells his own stuff, he doesn't deliver, and rips off the buyer... and then he gets ANGRY when he's called on it??

what a fucking hypocritical retard...

The Beatles Camp probably refers to all involved in the digital rights of the Beatles Catalog. Notice there are NO legal Beatles downloads? They are extremely tough about the catalog and how to keep people BUYING it.

This fucktard needs a swift kick to the happysack. Andrew has 100 FUCKING PERCENT supported MANY artists by promoting them, putting up samples of their music and giving sites where their music can be BOUGHT LEGALLY. This Roger Scott Craig jackass has the balls to call him out on that? Seriously? How many posts, updates, promotions and reviews Andrew has given to him and his bands to help them with sales and he has the nerve to respond to Andrew like that? This guy is delusional.


Roger,

Who gives a shit if some people downloaded your music. It doesn't change the fact that there are people that PAID for it and you OWE them their merchandise or it's considered FRAUD! You are an advocate for supporting musicians and against illegal downloading, but yet contradict yourself by your own actions. Put your money where your mouth is, shut the fuck up and either refund their money or send them their product. I hope you realize the many bridges you've now burned by doing this. I'm sure the amount of people that download your music will now rise due to your very own actions. You didn't really think this through all the way huh?

Duncan wrote:Re the story on the front page. anyone know what is meant by Beatles camp and the largest union in the world? When I read Roger's email I couldn't help wondering if he was having some form of breakdown. David Ike sprung to mind.

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He knows the surviving Beatles I think as well as the companies backing the Beatles legacy.

I hope all 88 of those people who get their money back donate half of it to MR and turn around and download Craig Scott Rogers (whatever the hell his name is) crap for free!!!

It's artists like Roger Craig that are the reason fucking MR-style music is in the shitter.

Dear Roger,

The beatles continue to sell albums because the beatles were fucking amazing....not because those responsible for their catalog dont allow digital downloading!!!! I'd be willing to bet that the beatles would STILL top sales lists even if every fucking tune they recorded is available on itunes.

Face the fucking facts, Roger. digital music is here to stay. It's a technology that can NOT be put back into the jar. While I feel some of the aspects of the past (cool album jackets, that smell of a new tape, lp or cd, having a physical cd) are things I will only give up when they no longer sell CDs in stores.....the fact of the matter is that the new generations of music listeners dont fucking care. They want their music instantly...they want to fucking buy it with a debit/credit card and have it in their fucking ipod quicker than the invoice hits their inbox via email.

That's the fucking cold, hard truth, Roger!!! If you want to be an ignorant little fuckstick and stick your head into the sand, that's not our problem. But when you engage in 88 seperate acts of defrauding the very people that sided with your point of view, and purchased your physical CD.....then you're a fucktard of biblical proportions.


Artists today have embraced the digital age. They've reduced their overhead by recording themselves on their laptops, they are no longer hamstrung by record companies (which were really just banks lending money at rates a mobster would be embarassed to quote)...and they promote their music digitally.


Sorry....face the fucking facts, you dipshits of the melodic/hard rock era:

* Your fan base is no longer sex-starved 17 year old girls
* Your fan base is less than 3% that it was in the 80s
* Your fan base doesn't give two shits about your causes. They only want you to release *good* new music.
* Your fan base doesn't want to see youtube, tribute act replacements because you can't fucking get along like cranky old fucking women.
* Your fan base DOESN'T WANT TO BE RIPPED OFF by you


Until you fucktards, from Roger Craig to Tommy Shaw to Neal Schon.....read the above and fucking figure it out....this music will NEVER, EVER come close to the fucking impact it had in the 80s. Never!



What are you left with Roger Craig? You're just another internet douchebucket fuckstick who stole some money from some people. Nothing more. You're not an artist. You're a cheap, peace of shit Bernie Madoff....you're a cocksmoking, wastoid version of Jeff Skilling. You're a fucking Milli Vanilli, you're a fucking Napster.

Yes, you're a fucking napster. You complain about people stealing music, yet you steal money.


You want people to reconnect the concept that money = music and music = money? Yet you fucking steal from people...and then complain about the inverse?




Guess what? Prior to this event.....88 people cared about your music. Now, as a result of your actions, ZERO people care about your music....and hundreds (who never gived two shits about you) now think you're a scumbag, piece of shit fraudster....


Congratulations, dickbag!


Roger Craig.....another hypocrite fraudster

Get off the fence man.

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strangegrey wrote:It's artists like Roger Craig that are the reason fucking MR-style music is in the shitter.

Dear Roger,

The beatles continue to sell albums because the beatles were fucking amazing....not because those responsible for their catalog dont allow digital downloading!!!! I'd be willing to bet that the beatles would STILL top sales lists even if every fucking tune they recorded is available on itunes.

Face the fucking facts, Roger. digital music is here to stay. It's a technology that can NOT be put back into the jar. While I feel some of the aspects of the past (cool album jackets, that smell of a new tape, lp or cd, having a physical cd) are things I will only give up when they no longer sell CDs in stores.....the fact of the matter is that the new generations of music listeners dont fucking care. They want their music instantly...they want to fucking buy it with a debit/credit card and have it in their fucking ipod quicker than the invoice hits their inbox via email.

That's the fucking cold, hard truth, Roger!!! If you want to be an ignorant little fuckstick and stick your head into the sand, that's not our problem. But when you engage in 88 seperate acts of defrauding the very people that sided with your point of view, and purchased your physical CD.....then you're a fucktard of biblical proportions.


Artists today have embraced the digital age. They've reduced their overhead by recording themselves on their laptops, they are no longer hamstrung by record companies (which were really just banks lending money at rates a mobster would be embarassed to quote)...and they promote their music digitally.


Sorry....face the fucking facts, you dipshits of the melodic/hard rock era:

* Your fan base is no longer sex-starved 17 year old girls
* Your fan base is less than 3% that it was in the 80s
* Your fan base doesn't give two shits about your causes. They only want you to release *good* new music.
* Your fan base doesn't want to see youtube, tribute act replacements because you can't fucking get along like cranky old fucking women.
* Your fan base DOESN'T WANT TO BE RIPPED OFF by you


Until you fucktards, from Roger Craig to Tommy Shaw to Neal Schon.....read the above and fucking figure it out....this music will NEVER, EVER come close to the fucking impact it had in the 80s. Never!



What are you left with Roger Craig? You're just another internet douchebucket fuckstick who stole some money from some people. Nothing more. You're not an artist. You're a cheap, peace of shit Bernie Madoff....you're a cocksmoking, wastoid version of Jeff Skilling. You're a fucking Milli Vanilli, you're a fucking Napster.

Yes, you're a fucking napster. You complain about people stealing music, yet you steal money.


You want people to reconnect the concept that money = music and music = money? Yet you fucking steal from people...and then complain about the inverse?




Guess what? Prior to this event.....88 people cared about your music. Now, as a result of your actions, ZERO people care about your music....and hundreds (who never gived two shits about you) now think you're a scumbag, piece of shit fraudster....


Congratulations, dickbag!


Roger Craig.....another hypocrite fraudster

Frank... I really wish you would quit beating around the bush and just spit it out for crying out loud! Great post by the way, and I agree 100%.

Okay, I'm mystified... is the logic that since people have been ripping him off by taking him music via illegle downloads and not giving him any money, he is somehow balancing the scales of justice in the universe by taking money from different people (his fans) and not giving them the music?

<cue Twilight Zone music here>

DrFU wrote:Okay, I'm mystified... is the logic that since people have been ripping him off by taking him music via illegle downloads and not giving him any money, he is somehow balancing the scales of justice in the universe by taking money from different people (his fans) and not giving them the music?

<cue Twilight Zone music here>

That's exactly the point I tried to make....I just am entirely incapable of being sucinct. Instead, I need to throttle it up with vulgarity and a 10 fucking page rant. Well said, Doc!

i had never heard of 101 South ,, till Andrew got them on MR disk 2 or 3 ..

Once Upon is a great song!!!!! best of the entire bunch.. great playing .. singing and

production..

BUT,, i would have never heard of this band if Andrew didnt advertise them,,

still dont know much about them ..

it reads like a drunk email.. ive never sent one of those though..

strangegrey wrote:It's artists like Roger Craig that are the reason fucking MR-style music is in the shitter.

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