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Rock's Greatest Frontmen??

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:43 am
by portland
I know another list we can pick apart! :P


http://www.spinner.com/2010/01/15/great ... ?icid=main

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:51 am
by Babyblue
Cool Elvis was #1 :wink: :D Freddie was #2 :D :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:13 pm
by T-Bone
How did Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson even make the top 20, let alone the top 100? And Gene Simmons over Paul? No Steve Perry? This list has a slight flaw...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:15 pm
by portland
T-Bone wrote:How did Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson even make the top 20, let alone the top 100? And Gene Simmons over Paul? No Steve Perry? This list has a slight flaw...




Yes....I did not say it was a good list!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:20 pm
by steveo777
Nobody in the comments even questioned that Steve Perry wasn't on that list? That in itself proves corruption! The world is all fucked up! :evil:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:27 pm
by Marabelle
Oh Geez; if you feel like that imagine how SP feels!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:41 pm
by JasonD
steveo777 wrote:Nobody in the comments even questioned that Steve Perry wasn't on that list? That in itself proves corruption! The world is all fucked up! :evil:


You just called T-Bone a nobody. Runnnnnnnnnnn!Image

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:58 pm
by ProgRocker53
Robert Plant at #20- needs to be higher

Zombie and Manson don't belong on here

Springsteen needs to be a bit higher

Glad that I didn't see Cobain on here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:05 pm
by JasonD
ProgRocker53 wrote:Robert Plant at #20- needs to be higher

Zombie and Manson don't belong on here

Springsteen needs to be a bit higher

Glad that I didn't see Cobain on here


I agree. I also don't understand why Elvis is on the list. Can you really call someone a Frontman when there are no ..... er.... uh, Backmen? (What's the word I'm looking for?) How can a solo artist be considered a Frontman? When I think "Frontman," I think of someone who fronts a band. Manson's a no talent freak. He needs to come off the list altogether. I love The Cure so it's good to see Robert Smith's name mentioned but I don't believe he belongs on the list..... not in the top 20 at least!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:05 pm
by squirt1
Everytime I see these lists, I say WHO SAYS. It is kind of like the R&R HOF and the guy who selects and controls it in Cleveland. Add the Grammy to the list ! The only thing that means anything is CD sales so artists and bands can tour, which is more $$$.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:30 pm
by Luvsaugeri
T-Bone wrote:How did Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson even make the top 20, let alone the top 100? And Gene Simmons over Paul? No Steve Perry? This list has a slight flaw...


+1.....I was thinking the same thing on all points!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:00 pm
by ProgRocker53
squirt1 wrote:Everytime I see these lists, I say WHO SAYS. It is kind of like the R&R HOF and the guy who selects and controls it in Cleveland. Add the Grammy to the list ! The only thing that means anything is CD sales so artists and bands can tour, which is more $$$.


CD sales don't mean everything. Really.

If they did, Britney Spears is just as credible as Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, and Bruce Springsteen.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:04 pm
by Ehwmatt
squirt1 wrote:Everytime I see these lists, I say WHO SAYS. It is kind of like the R&R HOF and the guy who selects and controls it in Cleveland. Add the Grammy to the list ! The only thing that means anything is CD sales so artists and bands can tour, which is more $$$.


Well, I gotta stress that the homo Jann Wenner and his New York liberal cronies control the R&R HoF, not anyone in Cleveland.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:05 pm
by G.I.Jim
I don't agree with the fact that Steve was a "Great" front man. He had an awesome voice both live and in the studio, and he wasn't BAD on stage. I just don't think he really worked the stage as well as many other front-men out there do. Just saying. :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:07 pm
by Triple S
Right there

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:09 pm
by Ehwmatt
Triple S wrote:Right there

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I'd say Burton's frontman skills are pretty underrated. He's a more classic style "man's man" frontman, eschewing the oft-androgynous strutting and dancing of more flamboyant frontmen for simply great presence, great facial expressions, his "real life" (ie not just a lame "HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU DOIN" kinda stuff) conversational rapport with the fans in the audience at shows, and good chemistry with his bandmates.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:21 pm
by squirt1
OK Matt, but the HOF museum is in Cleveland, right? Hearing the words New York explains it all.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:24 pm
by Triple S
Ehwmatt wrote:
Triple S wrote:Right there

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I'd say Burton's frontman skills are pretty underrated. He's a more classic style "man's man" frontman, eschewing the oft-androgynous strutting and dancing of more flamboyant frontmen for simply great presence, great facial expressions, his "real life" (ie not just a lame "HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU DOIN" kinda stuff) conversational rapport with the fans in the audience at shows, and good chemistry with his bandmates.


Agreed! (but you know I was talking about Michael Hutchence - in my av - right? :) )

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:24 pm
by Ehwmatt
Triple S wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Triple S wrote:Right there

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I'd say Burton's frontman skills are pretty underrated. He's a more classic style "man's man" frontman, eschewing the oft-androgynous strutting and dancing of more flamboyant frontmen for simply great presence, great facial expressions, his "real life" (ie not just a lame "HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU DOIN" kinda stuff) conversational rapport with the fans in the audience at shows, and good chemistry with his bandmates.


Agreed! (but you know I was talking about Michael Hutchence - in my av - right? :) )


Yes, I did. But I knew you would know what I was talking about !

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:25 pm
by Ehwmatt
squirt1 wrote:OK Matt, but the HOF museum is in Cleveland, right? Hearing the words New York explains it all.


Yes it is, but they pretty much do everything from New York... :(

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:29 pm
by Triple S
Ehwmatt wrote:
Triple S wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Triple S wrote:Right there

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I'd say Burton's frontman skills are pretty underrated. He's a more classic style "man's man" frontman, eschewing the oft-androgynous strutting and dancing of more flamboyant frontmen for simply great presence, great facial expressions, his "real life" (ie not just a lame "HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU DOIN" kinda stuff) conversational rapport with the fans in the audience at shows, and good chemistry with his bandmates.


Agreed! (but you know I was talking about Michael Hutchence - in my av - right? :) )


Yes, I did. But I knew you would know what I was talking about !


Slightly OT - but do you ever read his MySpace blog? He is one deep dude!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:37 pm
by Ehwmatt
Triple S wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Triple S wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Triple S wrote:Right there

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I'd say Burton's frontman skills are pretty underrated. He's a more classic style "man's man" frontman, eschewing the oft-androgynous strutting and dancing of more flamboyant frontmen for simply great presence, great facial expressions, his "real life" (ie not just a lame "HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU DOIN" kinda stuff) conversational rapport with the fans in the audience at shows, and good chemistry with his bandmates.


Agreed! (but you know I was talking about Michael Hutchence - in my av - right? :) )


Yes, I did. But I knew you would know what I was talking about !


Slightly OT - but do you ever read his MySpace blog? He is one deep dude!


I do... I really feel bad for him to be honest. I can tell he's really lonely and has some issues (especially the dad stuff)... But don't get me wrong, I love reading about his current playlists, his record collection, his memories of writing songs (especially when he posts unreleased tracks on there), and what not. But the more serious posts are really pretty sad sometimes... it's like his incredible gift and love for music/songwriting really trumped all his other desires throughout his life and now that he's gotten older it haunts him a bit.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:48 pm
by verslibre
Ronnie James Dio is not even on that list, therefore its credibility is ZERO.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:16 pm
by Babyblue
JasonD wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:Robert Plant at #20- needs to be higher

Zombie and Manson don't belong on here

Springsteen needs to be a bit higher

Glad that I didn't see Cobain on here


I agree. I also don't understand why Elvis is on the list. Can you really call someone a Frontman when there are no ..... er.... uh, Backmen? (What's the word I'm looking for?) How can a solo artist be considered a Frontman? When I think "Frontman," I think of someone who fronts a band. Manson's a no talent freak. He needs to come off the list altogether. I love The Cure so it's good to see Robert Smith's name mentioned but I don't believe he belongs on the list..... not in the top 20 at least!


I agre Elvis was never a front man ever.And the list is crazy but we knew that going in.Do they ever add Perry no not for the most part.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:27 am
by Rip Rokken
This list is TOTAL crap! It doesn't include Don Dokken, nor this guy - the greatest of them all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoBKdGAbJ4g

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:02 am
by X factor
Robert Plant at 20???How bout Plant at ONE where he belongs! And no Daltry? Crapola, if I'm gonna put anyone ahead of Plant, it'd be Daltry (or maybe Freddie. At least they got that right!)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:46 am
by parfait
X factor wrote:Robert Plant at 20???How bout Plant at ONE where he belongs! And no Daltry? Crapola, if I'm gonna put anyone ahead of Plant, it'd be Daltry (or maybe Freddie. At least they got that right!)


Plant is hugely (?) overrated. He had like 3-4 vocally good years with LZ, and that's about it.

The world's best frontman got to Bruce Springsteen - or Mr. Kittens from 1980-83 :)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:56 am
by X factor
parfait wrote:
X factor wrote:Robert Plant at 20???How bout Plant at ONE where he belongs! And no Daltry? Crapola, if I'm gonna put anyone ahead of Plant, it'd be Daltry (or maybe Freddie. At least they got that right!)


Plant is hugely (?) overrated. He had like 3-4 vocally good years with LZ, and that's about it.

The world's best frontman got to Bruce Springsteen - or Mr. Kittens from 1980-83 :)


I won't say you're wrong about the Boss, as my love for him is well documented in these pages, BUT- when I think of the prototypical frontman, I think of a singer as part of a band/unit. I guess bands like the E streeters and the Heartbreakers fall in that middle ground somewhere. Their singers aren't JUST singers, they are in essence the show.
Anyhoo...Plant may have only had a few years in top form, but they were mighty great years. And to me, he and Daltry set the standard of what a front man should be.
And btw- where the hell is Bon Scott on that list???

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:03 am
by steveo777
Babyblue wrote:
JasonD wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:Robert Plant at #20- needs to be higher

Zombie and Manson don't belong on here

Springsteen needs to be a bit higher

Glad that I didn't see Cobain on here


I agree. I also don't understand why Elvis is on the list. Can you really call someone a Frontman when there are no ..... er.... uh, Backmen? (What's the word I'm looking for?) How can a solo artist be considered a Frontman? When I think "Frontman," I think of someone who fronts a band. Manson's a no talent freak. He needs to come off the list altogether. I love The Cure so it's good to see Robert Smith's name mentioned but I don't believe he belongs on the list..... not in the top 20 at least!


I agre Elvis was never a front man ever.And the list is crazy but we knew that going in.Do they ever add Perry no not for the most part.


Looks like Elvis is fronting a band here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBmAPYkPeYU

So, would it have been any different if he was known as the Elvis Presley band and was the singer? Elvis is placed on that list exactly where he should be. The greatest performer to ever walk the earth. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:10 am
by Saint John
T-Bone wrote:How did Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson even make the top 20, let alone the top 100? And Gene Simmons over Paul? No Steve Perry? This list has a slight flaw...


Nobody outside of the Journey world thought Perry was any sort of "frontman." Singer? Yes ... the best ever. He's the reason so many people made fun of Journey. He was dorky, faggy and feminine.