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Hypothetical Situation....

Let's say that you are not "working out" at your current job.

BUT:

Your Boss will NOT fire you; they want YOU to make the decision to leave.

What is the best course of action?

TRAGChick wrote:Hypothetical Situation....

Let's say that you are not "working out" at your current job.

BUT:

Your Boss will NOT fire you; they want YOU to make the decision to leave.

What is the best course of action?

Have you ever seen Seinfeld? George had a similar situation. Oh wait... nevermind, he was avoiding his boss so he COULDN'T be fired!

Why would you want to be fired? Are things really that bad? The job market is tough as hell out there right now, so I'd seriously consider staying unless you have something else lined up. Just my $.02.

TRAGChick wrote:Hypothetical Situation....

Let's say that you are not "working out" at your current job.

BUT:

Your Boss will NOT fire you; they want YOU to make the decision to leave.

What is the best course of action?

Uh, I'd start looking for another job. (a) The reason they don't want to fire is due to them not wanting to participate in unemployment compensation and know a person can't collect if they voluntarily quit. (b) You are a minority or protected class and they don't want to get sued.

I think being fired is the worse option in this situation. It looks better on a resume to have "resigned"

Have you seen American Beauty? I love what he does there.

TRAGChick wrote:Hypothetical Situation....

Let's say that you are not "working out" at your current job.

BUT:

Your Boss will NOT fire you; they want YOU to make the decision to leave.

What is the best course of action?

Hey, I would make them pay you till they let you go. They are trying to be cheep. But you can look for a job just in case. You have time on your side because they don't want to pay workmans comp.

Hell no, I would never give in, especially if the boss is that much of a coward. In fact, if I had warning that someone wanted to "make me quit," I would go out of my way to be the 'perfect' employee. Even if I hated the job, I would be too ticked off to go out without a fight

TRAGChick wrote:Hypothetical Situation....

Let's say that you are not "working out" at your current job.

BUT:

Your Boss will NOT fire you; they want YOU to make the decision to leave.

What is the best course of action?

I would start looking for another job so that when you do resign, you have something lined up. Steveo777 is right, it sounds like they want to make you quit so they don't have to compensate you. But, in the meantime I would use every advantage of the current situation, such as building a client base or contacts to network, creating and working on projects that will add to your experience and resume, etc. Just don't do anything that could get you fired 'with cause' which would usually allow them not to compensate you. Many on MR are lucky, because surfing the Internet at work for stuff that is not work-related - like MR! - is often defined as 'time theft' and is considered the same as if you stole office supplies.

I would tough it out while I'm looking for another job.

Incidentally, I thought you only get unemployment if a company lays you off. I thought if you quit or get fired you don't qualify for compensation.

JasonD wrote:I would tough it out while I'm looking for another job.

Incidentally, I thought you only get unemployment if a company lays you off. I thought if you quit or get fired you don't qualify for compensation.

If you quit you don't get compensation or if you get fired 'with cause' - getting caught for something like stealing would justify them in firing a person without compensation. If it's a personality clash or something, but they cannot actually fault your performance, they can let you go, but then they have to pay you.

I would look for something else as soon as possible - this is a very negative situation. If this boss wants you out, it's a guarantee that no matter how hard you work or what you contribute, you will not benefit with a raise or promotion. I don't know the specifics, but there are always tasks that no one wants and you'll get assigned every one of them. Why use your valuable time and skills to contribute to and benefit a company or individual who doesn't appreciate it? If your boss has a boss (or there is another manager at the same level as yours) who may not be aware of this and is able to act on your behalf and move you to a different department, asking for guidance and a resolution to the situation is something to consider if you like the company.

rockinfayrose wrote:Hell no, I would never give in, especially if the boss is that much of a coward. In fact, if I had warning that someone wanted to "make me quit," I would go out of my way to be the 'perfect' employee. Even if I hated the job, I would be too ticked off to go out without a fight

+1 My pride wouldn't let them have the satisfaction.

SherriBerry wrote:

JasonD wrote:I would tough it out while I'm looking for another job.

Incidentally, I thought you only get unemployment if a company lays you off. I thought if you quit or get fired you don't qualify for compensation.

If you quit you don't get compensation or if you get fired 'with cause' - getting caught for something like stealing would justify them in firing a person without compensation. If it's a personality clash or something, but they cannot actually fault your performance, they can let you go, but then they have to pay you.

I would look for something else as soon as possible - this is a very negative situation. If this boss wants you out, it's a guarantee that no matter how hard you work or what you contribute, you will not benefit with a raise or promotion. I don't know the specifics, but there are always tasks that no one wants and you'll get assigned every one of them. Why use your valuable time and skills to contribute to and benefit a company or individual who doesn't appreciate it? If your boss has a boss (or there is another manager at the same level as yours) who may not be aware of this and is able to act on your behalf and move you to a different department, asking for guidance and a resolution to the situation is something to consider if you like the company.

Yeah, well put. It's very easy for a person in authority to "constructively" fire someone by giving them all the worst tasks and making their life a general hell (think Bill Lumbergh telling people to come in on Saturday).

Ehwmatt wrote:

SherriBerry wrote:

JasonD wrote:I would tough it out while I'm looking for another job.

Incidentally, I thought you only get unemployment if a company lays you off. I thought if you quit or get fired you don't qualify for compensation.

If you quit you don't get compensation or if you get fired 'with cause' - getting caught for something like stealing would justify them in firing a person without compensation. If it's a personality clash or something, but they cannot actually fault your performance, they can let you go, but then they have to pay you.

I would look for something else as soon as possible - this is a very negative situation. If this boss wants you out, it's a guarantee that no matter how hard you work or what you contribute, you will not benefit with a raise or promotion. I don't know the specifics, but there are always tasks that no one wants and you'll get assigned every one of them. Why use your valuable time and skills to contribute to and benefit a company or individual who doesn't appreciate it? If your boss has a boss (or there is another manager at the same level as yours) who may not be aware of this and is able to act on your behalf and move you to a different department, asking for guidance and a resolution to the situation is something to consider if you like the company.

Yeah, well put. It's very easy for a person in authority to "constructively" fire someone by giving them all the worst tasks and making their life a general hell (think Bill Lumbergh telling people to come in on Saturday).

Ummm, I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too, okay? Uh yeah, that would be great.

TRAGChick wrote:Hypothetical Situation....

Let's say that you are not "working out" at your current job.

BUT:

Your Boss will NOT fire you; they want YOU to make the decision to leave.

What is the best course of action?

CONAN?

Sarah wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:Hypothetical Situation....

Let's say that you are not "working out" at your current job.

BUT:

Your Boss will NOT fire you; they want YOU to make the decision to leave.

What is the best course of action?

CONAN?

Good one!

Thanx for the laugh.....

I can't give you any advice on quitting a job or getting fired .... BUT....while we're on the subject ..... um, .... I'm not trying to brag here, but I do believe I'm about to get a promotion.

I hope all goes well b/c it looks pretty promising.

I think I'm about to become a Record Producer. (*fingers crossed*)

JasonD wrote:I can't give you any advice on quitting a job or getting fired .... BUT....while we're on the subject ..... um, .... I'm not trying to brag here, but I do believe I'm about to get a promotion.

I hope all goes well b/c it looks pretty promising.

I think I'm about to become a Record Producer. (*fingers crossed*)

I bet you'll have that promotion within the next 24 hours....knowing you like I do.

Especially if Stevew2 will help you out.

JasonD wrote:I can't give you any advice on quitting a job or getting fired .... BUT....while we're on the subject ..... um, .... I'm not trying to brag here, but I do believe I'm about to get a promotion.

I hope all goes well b/c it looks pretty promising.

I think I'm about to become a Record Producer. (*fingers crossed*)

you are going to be the pole now, instead of the dancer?

Nora, your last name sounds like somerthing I'd order at The Olive Garden.

Saint John wrote:Nora, your last name sounds like somerthing I'd order at The Olive Garden.

Well, it IS an Italian name....and, I'm part Italian, so SCORE!!

Seriously, I am available for Studio Work....if anyone needs demo mp3s or Resume, PM me.

Thanks.

TRAGChick wrote:Allow me to introduce myself:

My name is Nora Tragianese; Professional Vocalist.

I am interested in Studio Work as a Backup Vocalist; Demo Vocalist; Jingle Singer, and Voice-Over Artist.

Looking for work. Seriously.

If work is in CA....willing to travel.

Thanks!

Does this mean shit finally hit the fan and you told them [employer] to fuck off?

steveo777 wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:Allow me to introduce myself:

My name is Nora Tragianese; Professional Vocalist.

I am interested in Studio Work as a Backup Vocalist; Demo Vocalist; Jingle Singer, and Voice-Over Artist.

Looking for work. Seriously.

If work is in CA....willing to travel.

Thanks!

Does this mean shit finally hit the fan and you told them [employer] to fuck off?

No; for the record, I DID NOT tell them to fuck off.

I just politely decided to remove myself from the job.



And right now, I got nothing....been on a few interviews......

Going MATRIX ~ going after what I want to do!

steveo777 wrote:Uh, I'd start looking for another job. (a) The reason they don't want to fire is due to them not wanting to participate in unemployment compensation and know a person can't collect if they voluntarily quit. (b) You are a minority or protected class and they don't want to get sued.

My thoughts exactly. Also, unless things have changed I don't think a person gets unemployment if they were fired for misconduct, so if someone "gets themselves fired" it may, umm... backfire.

TRAGChick wrote:Allow me to introduce myself:

My name is Nora Tragianese; Professional Vocalist.

I am interested in Studio Work as a Backup Vocalist; Demo Vocalist; Jingle Singer, and Voice-Over Artist.

Looking for work. Seriously.

If work is in CA....willing to travel.

Thanks!

Damn, I thought you just finished your album? Or are you talking about the job you had besides your band?

Saint John wrote:Nora, your last name sounds like somerthing I'd order at The Olive Garden.

Duuude, you live in Chicago and eat at the Olive Garden? That's trag-ic.

DrFU wrote:

Saint John wrote:Nora, your last name sounds like somerthing I'd order at The Olive Garden.

Duuude, you live in Chicago and eat at the Olive Garden? That's trag-ic.

Only about once a year. I like that place!

Saint John wrote:

DrFU wrote:

Saint John wrote:Nora, your last name sounds like somerthing I'd order at The Olive Garden.

Duuude, you live in Chicago and eat at the Olive Garden? That's trag-ic.

Only about once a year. I like that place!

Fuck man, I like it too. And I enjoy "real" Italian food as much as the next pasty Irish guy with an Italian last name, but hey, sometimes I just want something like Olive Garden.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Saint John wrote:

DrFU wrote:

Saint John wrote:Nora, your last name sounds like somerthing I'd order at The Olive Garden.

Duuude, you live in Chicago and eat at the Olive Garden? That's trag-ic.

Only about once a year. I like that place!

Fuck man, I like it too. And I enjoy "real" Italian food as much as the next pasty Irish guy with an Italian last name, but hey, sometimes I just want something like Olive Garden.

The "Tour Of Italy" is a great dish and well priced, and their Minestrone soup is killer.

Ehwmatt wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:Allow me to introduce myself:

My name is Nora Tragianese; Professional Vocalist.

I am interested in Studio Work as a Backup Vocalist; Demo Vocalist; Jingle Singer, and Voice-Over Artist.

Looking for work. Seriously.

If work is in CA....willing to travel.

Thanks!

Damn, I thought you just finished your album? Or are you talking about the job you had besides your band?

A job I had besides my band.

Trust me ~ TRAG is fine; we have a bunch of kickass material.