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Iceland Volcano(s)

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:14 am
by Behshad
Im sure by now all of you (minus Stevew2) have heard about this. 18000 flights(!) were cancelled in Europe yesterday and another 16000 are cancelled today....
The experts now say that if this would keep out for 2-3 weeks, up to 90% of Airlines in Europe may file for bankruptcy which results in a chaos that can set things back up to 40 years !!!
Of course with flights grounded, not only does the import/export gets affected, but also many peoples jobs and meetings,, scary to think how much we really depend on airplanes,,,..Lets hope the Volcano doesnt "wake up" the other Volcano(s)....

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:26 am
by bluejeangirl76
That's wild.
I was reading about it and I found this:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/0,39029 ... 476,00.htm
In the paragraph, click the link that says "Google's Lat Long blog" which takes you to a page that shows how to view it on google earth.

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:29 am
by Everett
This is why i don't fly

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:34 am
by Behshad
Thenightbull wrote:This is why i don't fly
Yep thats it.... youre so scared of Volcanos in MilFuckingWaukee to erupt,,, thats the reasons youre NOT FLYING to FUCKING MR FEST II.....
Did you get your fucking tickets, pussy !??


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:36 am
by Everett
Behshad wrote:Thenightbull wrote:This is why i don't fly
Yep thats it.... youre so scared of Volcanos in MilFuckingWaukee to erupt,,, thats the reasons youre NOT FLYING to FUCKING MR FEST II.....
Did you get your fucking tickets, pussy !??


I think you know the answer to your question. No i'm not afraid of volcanos a-hole i liked the film of the same name with tommy lee jones


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:48 am
by steveo777
What the hell does one Volcano in Iceland have to do with the grounding of thousands of planes? I might be a bit slow...not as slow as sw2, but I don't get it.
Where'd ya get the stats, B? Just a swag?

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:50 am
by Behshad
Thenightbull wrote:Behshad wrote:Thenightbull wrote:This is why i don't fly
Yep thats it.... youre so scared of Volcanos in MilFuckingWaukee to erupt,,, thats the reasons youre NOT FLYING to FUCKING MR FEST II.....
Did you get your fucking tickets, pussy !??


I think you know the answer to your question. No i'm not afraid of volcanos a-hole i liked the film of the same name with tommy lee jones

Youre the one who said THIS IS WHY I DONT FLY, dickbag.
You should just change your username from the NightBull to TheOneWithManyPoorExcuses !
Did you buy your tickets yet, you twinkie-jawed fruitwarmer ??

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:01 am
by Everett
steveo777 wrote:What the hell does one Volcano in Iceland have to do with the grounding of thousands of planes? I might be a bit slow...not as slow as sw2, but I don't get it.

Where'd ya get the stats, B? Just a swag?
If the ash get's into the planes engines it could cause a malfunction

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:10 am
by Behshad
steveo777 wrote:What the hell does one Volcano in Iceland have to do with the grounding of thousands of planes? I might be a bit slow...not as slow as sw2, but I don't get it.

Where'd ya get the stats, B? Just a swag?
If you can read Swedish , here is some articles
www.expressen.se
otherwise check this out :
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/04/17/ic ... tml?hpt=T1
And I guess I shouldve said ALL STEVES in my 1st post


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:10 am
by steveo777
Thenightbull wrote:steveo777 wrote:What the hell does one Volcano in Iceland have to do with the grounding of thousands of planes? I might be a bit slow...not as slow as sw2, but I don't get it.

Where'd ya get the stats, B? Just a swag?
If the ash get's into the planes engines it could cause a malfunction
Aha..similar to this story here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF09Mu9CoUA
Fuck you Beshad. I had not had my first cup of coffee yet.


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:15 am
by squirt1
This happened c 1300 and it caused a huge famine in Europe. This one also threatens the Russian bread basket if those crops can't get any sunlight.

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:10 am
by RocknRoll
Fact Finder wrote:squirt1 wrote:This happened c 1300 and it caused a huge famine in Europe. This one also threatens the Russian bread basket if those crops can't get any sunlight.
It might also put the Global Warming nutcases back in their closets for a few hundred years.

True. I was just going to post this anyway. It's pretty hard to predict climate change when we have volcanos erupting periodically all over the world.
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/service/g ... olcano.htm
Volcanoes and Global Cooling
Volcanic eruptions are thought to be responsible for the global cooling that has been observed for a few years after a major eruption. The amount and global extent of the cooling depend on the force of the eruption and, possibly, its latitude. When large masses of gases from the eruption reach the stratosphere, they can produce a large, widespread cooling effect. As a prime example, the effects of Mount Pinatubo, which erupted in June 1991, may have lasted a few years, serving to offset temporarily the predicted greenhouse effect.
As volcanoes erupt, they blast huge clouds into the atmosphere. These clouds are made up of particles and gases, including sulfur dioxide. Millions of tons of sulfur dioxide gas can reach the stratosphere from a major volcano. There, the sulfur dioxide converts to tiny persistent sulfuric acid (sulfate) particles, referred to as aerosols. These sulfate particles reflect energy coming from the sun, thereby preventing the sun's rays from heating the Earth.
Global cooling often has been linked with major volcanic eruptions. The year 1816 often has been referred to as "the year without a summer." It was a time of significant weather-related disruptions in New England and in Western Europe with killing summer frosts in the United States and Canada. These strange phenomena were attributed to a major eruption of the Tambora volcano in 1815 in Indonesia. The volcano threw sulfur dioxide gas into the stratosphere, and the aerosol layer that formed led to brilliant sunsets seen around the world for several years.
However, there is some confusion about the historical evidence that global cooling may be caused by volcanic emissions. Two recent volcanic eruptions have provided contradictory evidence on this point. Mount Agung in 1963 apparently caused a considerable decrease in temperatures around much of the world, whereas El Chichn in 1982 seemed to have little effect, perhaps because of its different location or because of the El Nino that occurred the same year. El Nino is a Pacific Ocean phenomenon, but it causes worldwide weather variations that may have acted to cancel out the effect of the El Chichn eruption.
Volcanoes and Ozone Depletion
Another possible effect of a volcanic eruption is the destruction of stratospheric ozone. Researchers now are suggesting that ice particles containing sulfuric acid from volcanic emissions may contribute to ozone loss. When chlorine compounds resulting from the breakup of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) in the stratosphere are present, the sulfate particles may serve to convert them into more active forms that may cause more rapid ozone depletion (see NASA Facts--Ozone).
Monitoring the Effects of Volcanoes
Even if one can get to a volcano, it's practically impossible to measure its gas output because one can't synoptically see the whole cloud. Even aircraft can't do it because they're too low and it's too dangerous. Space observations from NASA's Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer (TOMS) instrument have contributed significantly to our knowledge of the total amount of sulfur dioxide emitted into the atmosphere in the course of major volcanic eruptions.Following the eruption of Mount Pinatubo, TOMS images show Sulfer-dioxide spreading across the Pacific. Several weeks later the sulfur dioxide had spread around the world as observed by the Microwave Limb Sounder (MLS) instrument on NASA's Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (UARS).
In addition to detecting the sulfur dioxide from Mount Pinatubo, TOMS has made similar observations of more than 100 volcanic events including a major eruption from the Cerro Hudson volcano in Chile in 1991. A TOMS instrument was launched on the Russian Meteor-3 spacecraft in 1991; it is also scheduled to fly on a special-purpose NASA satellite, an Earth Probe, in 1994, and on the Japanese Advanced Earth Observing System (ADEOS) mission in 1996. Current plans are for TOMS to monitor volcanic eruptions well into the next century.
Data from the Stratospheric Aerosol and Gas Experiment (SAGE II) instrument on NASA's Earth Radiation Budget Satellite (ERBS) have shown that during the first five months after the Mount Pinatubo eruption, the optical depth of the stratospheric aerosol increased up to 100 times in certain locations. Optical depth is a general measure of the capacity of a region of the atmosphere to prevent the passage of visible light through it. Greater optical depth means greater blockage of the light. In this case, the increased optical depth means that considerably less of the sun's energy can get through the cloud to warm the Earth's surface.
Observations of the effects of Mt. Pinatubo aerosols on global climate have been used to validate scientist's understanding of climate change and our ability to predict future climate. Researchers at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City have applied their general circulation model of Earth's climate to the problem. They have reported success in correctly predicting the effects of the sulfate aerosols from Mount Pinatubo's eruption on lowering global temperatures. The following related information can be found in the EOS Reference Handbook.

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:29 am
by Sarah
One of my friends was visiting France in the last couple weeks and is now stuck there! I guess she was supposed to fly home this weekend but who knows when she'll be able to come back now...

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:40 am
by steveo777
Sarah wrote:One of my friends was visiting France in the last couple weeks and is now stuck there! I guess she was supposed to fly home this weekend but who knows when she'll be able to come back now...
She will be fine as long as she doesn't get peed on by Parfait. Tell her to beware of young men professing to being physical therapists, while studying to become doctors.


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:56 am
by Gin and Tonic Sky
Im not sure if im lucky or not . Ive been back home in Minneapolis visiting family, my return flight to London got axed, cant get out until Friday now.
good cause im stuck back home, bad because I have a lot of business issues back in England to sort


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:02 pm
by The Sushi Hunter
Looks like a lot of travelers are going to be stuck in hotels for quite a while with nothing to do. Will be interesting to see if there's a birth rate explosion in about 9 months from now because of it.

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:24 pm
by Everett
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Looks like a lot of travelers are going to be stuck in hotels for quite a while with nothing to do. Will be interesting to see if there's a birth rate explosion in about 9 months from now because of it.


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:32 pm
by Gin and Tonic Sky
I m hoping I get stuck here until May 1st, Ill just show up to melodic rock fest !!

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:46 pm
by squirt1
Fact Finder- I forget how many undersea volcanoes there are and it is an enormous #. There are super volcanoes and Old Faithful is one. If it ever blows it could end life by ending the growing seasons around the world. There is huge $$$$ in global warming fears. right Al? BTW where is Al with Waldo ? I think he uped his wealth to 500 Million. I believe keeping the planet as clean as possible by recycling & not wasting is necessary but the left seems to go WAYYYYYYYYYY overboard on this, We can't drill for oil even in our waters with improved technologies in 2010. Huh? Oh. but China & Russia with HORRIBLE technology plan to drill off Alaska and in the Gulf of Mexico. The current ,so called leaders, are idiots ! Do any of them understand that this planet has been doing its thing for 4.6 BILLION years?

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:34 pm
by RocknRoll
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:Im not sure if im lucky or not . Ive been back home in Minneapolis visiting family, my return flight to London got axed, cant get out until Friday now.
good cause im stuck back home, bad because I have a lot of business issues back in England to sort

Hey, if the Norwegian PM can run their gov't from an IPAD while stuck here in the states , you should be fine.


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:34 pm
by Everett
Hey fact finder are the wwe guys gonna be able to make it back to the states in time for monday night raw this week????


Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:25 pm
by StevePerryHair

Posted:
Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:39 pm
by G.I.Jim
Thenightbull wrote:Hey fact finder are the wwe guys gonna be able to make it back to the states in time for monday night raw this week????

We can only HOPE they get stuck there forever!


Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:21 am
by Everett

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:01 am
by Everett
Fact Finder wrote:Thenightbull wrote:Hey fact finder are the wwe guys gonna be able to make it back to the states in time for monday night raw this week????

Not that I give a shit, but apparently the answer is no.
Are Raw and Smackdown in jeopardy?
The Raw crew is set to finish its tour tonight in Belfast and then fly back to New York for Raw at the Izod Center. Whether, due to most airports in Europe being grounded, that will be possible has become a big question. The Miz just twittered saying it isn't looking good. Belfast was considered the best place to get out of, based on wind activity in Northern Europe.
The plan was for the crew to charter a flight from Belfast after today's show, but the airports in Northern Ireland have been shut down.
The Smackdown crew is in even worse shape. They have been on a bus trying to get to a place in Europe to fly back home. Chris Jericho twittered that it has been 36 hours since any of them have seen a bed and with no end in sight, joking that these past few days have taken years off his career, and he's looking at doing his retirement match on Monday night against MacGruber. He said the bus was about to break down. They were en route to Spain, but the airport they were looking at taking off from is apparently closed.
No specific decison has been made regarding the taping of Monday and Tuesday's show (scheduled for the Mohegan Sun Casino) at this point
Mickie James tweeted that the Smackdown crew has arrived at the airport in Madrid, Spain, after a 20 hour ride. I checked online using Flights Status & Ticket Agencies sites and planes are flying out of Madrid to JFK. Also planes from Madrid are able to go to Portugal and then to Newark & LGA. Also from Portugal to Chicago then to NYC.
To add to the above, WWE is obviously aware of the situation that they are dealing with right now with the Raw talent. They have told the building in East Rutherford, NJ that they are still planning to have Raw there on Monday. It's very possible that Smackdown talents will be in the building to perform at the show if the Raw workers can't get there. I was also told that if the Raw workers can't get out of Northern Ireland that we should expect video, or maybe even satellite appearances, with the wrestlers to be interspersed into Monday's go home show
Thanks man should be pretty interesting tomorrow
