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I think this will be on the Discovery channel. He states there are many types of life in the universe in the 100 billion galaxies. Any that could get here would be so far ahead of us that their motives could be resources or anything. He seems to be saying lay low & call no attention to this planet. Anyway, he has been a noted scientist the last 30 yrs and it is so hard that he has his severe physical disabilites while his brain(genius) is soooo intact. Now, last week Drudge had up a new Nebula that had a pillar that was 3 light years tall. It was taken by Hubble. I think that may be 365 days x 3 yrs x 187,000(rounded off) PER SECOND !!!!!!!!!! to travel to its top . Want to feel small ?

Well i hope when the aliens do get here it won't be like independence day.

I don't think it took Dr. Hawking to realize that 1) there are other life forms out in space, and 2) it may be hazardous to our health to deal with other life forms from outter space. Lets not forget that movie back in the day "I Come In Peace."

I met Dr. Hawking personally in around 2004. He was speaking where I worked at that time. Listening to him talk, I was astounded by his lecture in regards to black holes.

squirt1 wrote:I think that may be 365 days x 3 yrs x 187,000(rounded off) PER SECOND !!!!!!!!!! to travel to its top . Want to feel small ?

Well, you want to feel small....better yet, you want to realize something that will completely blow your mind? Think about this for a moment. When you look out into the night sky with a fairly decent telescope and can see M31 (Andromeda), what you see is a little tiny speck of white light, appears to be about the size of a grain of sand. However.....that little speck of white light is 220,000 light-years in diameter from one side to the other. Which means if you were actually at Andromeda and you were traveling the speed of light, it would take you 220,000 years to travel from one end to the other. And the real attraction here is you are able to see at one time this distance and time. When you look at that little speck of white light, your looking right at 220,000 light years of distance and time. That is absolute amazing!

Here it is, from one end to the other, your looking at 220,000 light years of distance and time in a single still frame.



And try to just imagine how far away from us Andromeda must be in order for us to see that amount of time and space in a single speck of light the size of a grain of sand.

The Sushi Hunter wrote:

squirt1 wrote:I think that may be 365 days x 3 yrs x 187,000(rounded off) PER SECOND !!!!!!!!!! to travel to its top . Want to feel small ?

Well, you want to feel small....better yet, you want to realize something that will completely blow your mind? Think about this for a moment. When you look out into the night sky with a fairly decent telescope and can see M31 (Andromeda), what you see is a little tiny speck of white light, appears to be about the size of a grain of sand. However.....that little speck of white light is 220,000 light-years in diameter from one side to the other. Which means if you were actually at Andromeda and you were traveling the speed of light, it would take you 220,000 years to travel from one end to the other. And the kicker is you are able to see at one time each end of this galaxy. When you look at that little speck of white light, your looking right at 220,000 light years of distance. That is absolute amazing!

that is incredible...I would love to own a telescope..

SteveForever wrote:

The Sushi Hunter wrote:

squirt1 wrote:I think that may be 365 days x 3 yrs x 187,000(rounded off) PER SECOND !!!!!!!!!! to travel to its top . Want to feel small ?

Well, you want to feel small....better yet, you want to realize something that will completely blow your mind? Think about this for a moment. When you look out into the night sky with a fairly decent telescope and can see M31 (Andromeda), what you see is a little tiny speck of white light, appears to be about the size of a grain of sand. However.....that little speck of white light is 220,000 light-years in diameter from one side to the other. Which means if you were actually at Andromeda and you were traveling the speed of light, it would take you 220,000 years to travel from one end to the other. And the kicker is you are able to see at one time each end of this galaxy. When you look at that little speck of white light, your looking right at 220,000 light years of distance. That is absolute amazing!

that is incredible...I would love to own a telescope..

It would have to be a huge telescope if you expect to see it like the picture I attached above. With the average telescope, it will be just a very tiny speck of light. With a 8" to 9" telescope it will be a few times bigger then a speck of light, but nothing more then that. And it will only be in black and white. When you see it in color, usually thats because they used some sort of filter system when the image was recorded. But yeah, when I was a teen, I'd spend hours out in the field during moonless nights looking at the stars with my telescope. Cooler winter months are the best, the air doesn't have a lot of activity when it's cooler compared to when it's warmer and that makes looking "through" earth's atmosphere more transparent. One of the most peaceful and relaxing ways I used to spend my time when I was a kid was looking at the stars with my telescope at night.

This stuff is really interesting and hard to put in perpective, it gives me a headache just thinking about how huge the Universe really is. Some scientist want to believe that there are numerous Universes now. Last year I was hearing about a Supernova that was like 7 billion light years away and we are just now seeing it, this means that star exploded over 7 billion years ago, before our planet or solar system even existed, and we are just now seeing the light from this.

Space IS just insanely large... here's another comparison picture, from Earth to the edge of the known universe... (click the link for the image, it's too big to post)
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3708/spacewy.jpg


And the intro from the movie Contact just blows my mind... the whole movie really underlines how small our little planet is in the scheme of things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLQF-4uyD4Y

Sarah wrote:Space IS just insanely large... here's another comparison picture, from Earth to the edge of the known universe... (click the link for the image, it's too big to post)
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3708/spacewy.jpg


And the intro from the movie Contact just blows my mind... the whole movie really underlines how small our little planet is in the scheme of things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLQF-4uyD4Y

Very cool comparison, my head is spinning just thinking about it!

Contact is a very cool movie, I even bought the soundtrack to it, like the music written for it.

LtVanish wrote:This stuff is really interesting and hard to put in perpective, it gives me a headache just thinking about how huge the Universe really is. Some scientist want to believe that there are numerous Universes now. Last year I was hearing about a Supernova that was like 7 billion light years away and we are just now seeing it, this means that star exploded over 7 billion years ago, before our planet or solar system even existed, and we are just now seeing the light from this.

You probably mean string theory. Check out anything starring Michio Kaku. It's pretty complex stuff, but extremely awesome. Our future is out there, not on earth.

squirt1 wrote:I think this will be on the Discovery channel. He states there are many types of life in the universe in the 100 billion galaxies. Any that could get here would be so far ahead of us that their motives could be resources or anything. He seems to be saying lay low & call no attention to this planet. Anyway, he has been a noted scientist the last 30 yrs and it is so hard that he has his severe physical disabilites while his brain(genius) is soooo intact. Now, last week Drudge had up a new Nebula that had a pillar that was 3 light years tall. It was taken by Hubble. I think that may be 365 days x 3 yrs x 187,000(rounded off) PER SECOND !!!!!!!!!! to travel to its top . Want to feel small ?

He was on last night with Chris Matthews as was James Cameron.

Squirty, as soon as you cited Drudge, I stopped reading. Sorry

parfait wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This stuff is really interesting and hard to put in perpective, it gives me a headache just thinking about how huge the Universe really is. Some scientist want to believe that there are numerous Universes now. Last year I was hearing about a Supernova that was like 7 billion light years away and we are just now seeing it, this means that star exploded over 7 billion years ago, before our planet or solar system even existed, and we are just now seeing the light from this.

You probably mean string theory. Check out anything starring Michio Kaku. It's pretty complex stuff, but extremely awesome. Our future is out there, not on earth.

Yeah , get packing buddy,, we will catch you later, k ?

parfait wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This stuff is really interesting and hard to put in perpective, it gives me a headache just thinking about how huge the Universe really is. Some scientist want to believe that there are numerous Universes now. Last year I was hearing about a Supernova that was like 7 billion light years away and we are just now seeing it, this means that star exploded over 7 billion years ago, before our planet or solar system even existed, and we are just now seeing the light from this.

You probably mean string theory. Check out anything starring Michio Kaku. It's pretty complex stuff, but extremely awesome. Our future is out there, not on earth.

That dude is fun to listen to, I have seen him on a few different shows, his string theory is way over my head.

LtVanish wrote:This stuff is really interesting and hard to put in perpective, it gives me a headache just thinking about how huge the Universe really is. Some scientist want to believe that there are numerous Universes now. Last year I was hearing about a Supernova that was like 7 billion light years away and we are just now seeing it, this means that star exploded over 7 billion years ago, before our planet or solar system even existed, and we are just now seeing the light from this.

Its all just so amazing.

parfait wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This stuff is really interesting and hard to put in perpective, it gives me a headache just thinking about how huge the Universe really is. Some scientist want to believe that there are numerous Universes now. Last year I was hearing about a Supernova that was like 7 billion light years away and we are just now seeing it, this means that star exploded over 7 billion years ago, before our planet or solar system even existed, and we are just now seeing the light from this.

You probably mean string theory. Check out anything starring Michio Kaku. It's pretty complex stuff, but extremely awesome. Our future is out there, not on earth.

Actually, I think multiple universes is M-theory. Something about 13 dimensions and it explains how quantum mechanics (the physics of the atomic level, very small) and relativity (the physics on a large, universal, scale) can both be correct and contradict each other at times.

But, you are right about Kaku.

The Sushi Hunter wrote:

SteveForever wrote:

The Sushi Hunter wrote:

squirt1 wrote:I think that may be 365 days x 3 yrs x 187,000(rounded off) PER SECOND !!!!!!!!!! to travel to its top . Want to feel small ?

Well, you want to feel small....better yet, you want to realize something that will completely blow your mind? Think about this for a moment. When you look out into the night sky with a fairly decent telescope and can see M31 (Andromeda), what you see is a little tiny speck of white light, appears to be about the size of a grain of sand. However.....that little speck of white light is 220,000 light-years in diameter from one side to the other. Which means if you were actually at Andromeda and you were traveling the speed of light, it would take you 220,000 years to travel from one end to the other. And the kicker is you are able to see at one time each end of this galaxy. When you look at that little speck of white light, your looking right at 220,000 light years of distance. That is absolute amazing!

that is incredible...I would love to own a telescope..

It would have to be a huge telescope if you expect to see it like the picture I attached above. With the average telescope, it will be just a very tiny speck of light. With a 8" to 9" telescope it will be a few times bigger then a speck of light, but nothing more then that. And it will only be in black and white. When you see it in color, usually thats because they used some sort of filter system when the image was recorded. But yeah, when I was a teen, I'd spend hours out in the field during moonless nights looking at the stars with my telescope. Cooler winter months are the best, the air doesn't have a lot of activity when it's cooler compared to when it's warmer and that makes looking "through" earth's atmosphere more transparent. One of the most peaceful and relaxing ways I used to spend my time when I was a kid was looking at the stars with my telescope at night.

Even with a large telescope, those pics are taken with long exposure times. So, with the naked eye, you are still not going to see much.

Anything larger then 8" telescope is a waste of money for people at home. With a 8" you will get to see brilliant views of the planets and the moon. If you want to try astrophotography, you can get some good pics of nebulae, galaxies, clusters and such...but you won't see them well with the naked eye.

Thenightbull wrote:Well i hope when the aliens do get here it won't be like independence day.

If aliens traveled to Earth, they would be millions of years ahead of us in technology. If they wanted the Earth, it would be more like "War of the Worlds". We would be nothing more then insects to them, needing to be exterminated. I doubt they would even regard us as 'intelligent' life...any more then we look at an ant colony as a sign of 'intelligent' life...but something we would want to get rid of if it was on our doorstep.


And we men, the creatures who inhabit this earth, must be to them at least as alien and lowly as are the monkeys and lemurs to us. The intellectual side of man already admits that life is an incessant struggle for existence, and it would seem that this too is the belief of the minds upon Mars. Their world is far gone in its cooling and this world is still crowded with life, but crowded only with what they regard as inferior animals. To carry warfare sunward is, indeed, their only escape from the destruction that, generation after generation, creeps upon them.

And before we judge of them too harshly we must remember what ruthless and utter destruction our own species has wrought, not only upon animals, such as the vanished bison and the dodo, but upon its inferior races. The Tasmanians, in spite of their human likeness, were entirely swept out of existence in a war of extermination waged by European immigrants, in the space of fifty years. Are we such apostles of mercy as to complain if the Martians warred in the same spirit?

Deano once told me a story about his belief in aliens. He said he actually had an encounter with them! He told me that it was about 6 years ago and he was walking home from the bar down the street from his apartment. He said along the way, that he saw a really bright light, and then blacked out. The next thing he knows, he wakes up the next morning and his ass is sore as HELL!!! He later realized that he had given Dan his Mag-light to hold as they walked back to his apartment, and he has a FIRM belief that Dan's an illegal alien!

Sorry Deano- You know me........... but not all ariticles he puts up are political @ I do read other sites, too. I will PM you abt your previous request . It is still on!!!!!!!!!!!

GI JIM- You are a hoot and I hope you survive the wreath of Deano!

Still can't type correctly ????????? Need Bifoggles or Bifocals ! I hate being an old bag !

Monker- What you said is somewhat like Hawking said. We would be like what happened to the American indians when the Spaniards landed with their intentions and diseases.