LOST/BSG FINAL EPISODE SPOILER

[Don]

Is this going to be the new cop out ending for Television shows when the storylines become so convoluted that there is no way to to connect all the dots anymore?

[ILjrnyFan]

Is this going to be the new cop out ending for Television shows when the storylines become so convoluted that there is no way to to connect all the dots anymore?

Lost?

[Everett]

Is this going to be the new cop out ending for Television shows when the storylines become so convoluted that there is no way to to connect all the dots anymore?

Lost?

Grey's Anatomy???

[S2M]

24?

[StevePerryHair]

If you are going to start talking about a certain show, you may want to put a spoiler alert in the title.....

[StevePerryHair]

24?

Jack became like a serial killer I don't like the direction they took his character at all the last few episodes. It was just too violent for me.

[Everett]

Days Of Our Lives???

[Don]

Is this going to be the new cop out ending for Television shows when the storylines become so convoluted that there is no way to to connect all the dots anymore?

Lost?

And Battle Star Galactica from what I have read. The writers for Lost promised last year that everything in the show would have a scientific explanation. Apparently, they didn't even attempt Pseudo science, they just threw everything into a pot and said that's it. Write your own explanation. BSG totally went off course when the writers started following online chats and abandoned their own storylines to incorporate what the fans believed was actually going on in the shows. Since fans aren't really writers and tend to change their minds, you end up painting your self in a corner as writer when you go that route.

No wonder reality T.V. shows are all the rage. At least those scripts can be halfway believable.

[Deb]

24?

Jack became like a serial killer I don't like the direction they took his character at all the last few episodes. It was just too violent for me.

Yep, I think Keifer's time as Jack Bauer is done. Hopefully see him in something new soon, he's much to good of an actor not to be.

[Don]

The consensus with Lost is that the Island was Purgatory.

"To make a very, very long story short we discovered via Christian Shephard aka Jack’s dead father that all of the people on Oceanic 815 including Desmond, Daniel, Charlotte, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Sayid, Sun, Jin, Richard, Michael, Walt, Miles, Ana Lucia, Locke, Hurley and Benjamin did really live on the island but when they died they moved on to L.A for their afterlife where they had the life that they always dreamed off. In The End we learned that those who did eventually find a way to forgive the people who hurt them , and forgave themselves were reunited with the people who meant something to them an went to heaven."

WTF?

[StevePerryHair]

Please put a LOST SPOILER ALERT IN THE TITLE! seriously! I know a few have not had time to watch it yet!!

[StevePerryHair]

24?

Jack became like a serial killer I don't like the direction they took his character at all the last few episodes. It was just too violent for me.

Yep, I think Keifer's time as Jack Bauer is done. Hopefully see him in something new soon, he's much to good of an actor not to be.

Yeah, gutting the russian was a bit much for me

[StevePerryHair]

The consensus with Lost is that the Island was Purgatory.

"To make a very, very long story short we discovered via Christian Shephard aka Jack’s dead father that all of the people on Oceanic 815 including Desmond, Daniel, Charlotte, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Sayid, Sun, Jin, Richard, Michael, Walt, Miles, Ana Lucia, Locke, Hurley and Benjamin did really live on the island but when they died they moved on to L.A for their afterlife where they had the life that they always dreamed off. In The End we learned that those who did eventually find a way to forgive the people who hurt them , and forgave themselves were reunited with the people who meant something to them an went to heaven."

WTF?

The consensus from those I've talked to is the Island was not purgatory. The flash sideways was. They left it up for a lot of interpretation to be left up for the viewer.

[AlteredDNA]

24?

Jack became like a serial killer I don't like the direction they took his character at all the last few episodes. It was just too violent for me.

Yep, I think Keifer's time as Jack Bauer is done. Hopefully see him in something new soon, he's much to good of an actor not to be.

Yeah, gutting the russian was a bit much for me

Well, how else was he supposed to get the memory card the russian had swallowed?

[StevePerryHair]

24?

Jack became like a serial killer I don't like the direction they took his character at all the last few episodes. It was just too violent for me.

Yep, I think Keifer's time as Jack Bauer is done. Hopefully see him in something new soon, he's much to good of an actor not to be.

Yeah, gutting the russian was a bit much for me

Well, how else was he supposed to get the memory card the russian had swallowed?

[Don]

The consensus with Lost is that the Island was Purgatory.

"To make a very, very long story short we discovered via Christian Shephard aka Jack’s dead father that all of the people on Oceanic 815 including Desmond, Daniel, Charlotte, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Sayid, Sun, Jin, Richard, Michael, Walt, Miles, Ana Lucia, Locke, Hurley and Benjamin did really live on the island but when they died they moved on to L.A for their afterlife where they had the life that they always dreamed off. In The End we learned that those who did eventually find a way to forgive the people who hurt them , and forgave themselves were reunited with the people who meant something to them an went to heaven."

WTF?

The consensus from those I've talked to is the Island was not purgatory. The flash sideways was. They left it up for a lot of interpretation to be left up for the viewer.

That's the cop out for me.
We can't wrap everything up correctly (As we promised to) because we got lazy in our writing and got every thing twisted in a knot so why don't we just just let the audience make up their own interpretation of what happened.

One of the reasons, I'm bringing this up is because there was this big guy on the news blubbering his heart out about the finale of the show and I was wondering how someone could get so caught up in something that had no real story line and in the final season, had writers making every thing up on the fly just to get the damn show done?

[S2M]

Lately, I've been wondering if this forum is purgatory...:lol:

[StevePerryHair]

The consensus with Lost is that the Island was Purgatory.

"To make a very, very long story short we discovered via Christian Shephard aka Jack’s dead father that all of the people on Oceanic 815 including Desmond, Daniel, Charlotte, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Sayid, Sun, Jin, Richard, Michael, Walt, Miles, Ana Lucia, Locke, Hurley and Benjamin did really live on the island but when they died they moved on to L.A for their afterlife where they had the life that they always dreamed off. In The End we learned that those who did eventually find a way to forgive the people who hurt them , and forgave themselves were reunited with the people who meant something to them an went to heaven."

WTF?

The consensus from those I've talked to is the Island was not purgatory. The flash sideways was. They left it up for a lot of interpretation to be left up for the viewer.

That's the cop out for me.
We can't wrap everything up correctly (As we promised to) because we got lazy in our writing and got every thing twisted in a knot so why don't we just just let the audience make up their own interpretation of what happened.

One of the reasons, I'm bringing this up is because there was this big guy on the news blubbering his heart out about the finale of the show and I was wondering how someone could get so caught up in something that had no real story line and in the final season, had writers making every thing up on the fly just to get the damn show done?

Can you put the spoiler alert in instead of god did it? Because I know someone here who has not seen it yet and it will ruin it for those who haven't

And I think they wanted people to think the island is just a mysterious place, and the flash sideways was a way to have them all redeem all the bad things they were to maybe comfort the audience? That's why it was Purgatory? But they all arrived there at different times and they were the ones important to "jack" only. If you didn't watch it it's really hard to explain it to you.

[StevePerryHair]

Oh, and I didn't cry! I got very disconnected from the show the last season or 2 because it jumped around too much and I lost my connection with the characters. I heard people cried and I said "what"

[StevePerryHair]

Lately, I've been wondering if this forum is purgatory...:lol:

Or hell?? we get sucked in and we can't leave... Im starting to see it now

[Don]

Of course, everything that happened in the show could have been Jack seeing his life flash before his eyes right before he dies in the crash. A snapshot of what is, what was what could be. A St. Elsewhere moment minus the snow globe.

I'll stick with The Discovery Channel.

[StevePerryHair]

Of course, everything that happened in the show could have been Jack seeing his life flash before his eyes right before he dies in the crash. A snapshot of what is, what was what could be. A St. Elsewhere moment minus the snow globe.

I'll stick with The Discovery Channel.

Well at least they were allowed an ending. Try starting a show like Flashforward that they cancel after one season. It's not he first time Ive invested time into a show for them to axe it. It ticks me off AT LEAST let them end it in a 2 hour finale kind of thing so there is some closure! TV is very annoying these days! Shows don't last long at all. Im surprised LOST made it 6 years in this environment!

[Don]

Of course, everything that happened in the show could have been Jack seeing his life flash before his eyes right before he dies in the crash. A snapshot of what is, what was what could be. A St. Elsewhere moment minus the snow globe.

I'll stick with The Discovery Channel.

Well at least they were allowed an ending. Try starting a show like Flashforward that they cancel after one season. It's not he first time Ive invested time into a show for them to axe it. It ticks me off AT LEAST let them end it in a 2 hour finale kind of thing so there is some closure! TV is very annoying these days! Shows don't last long at all. Im surprised LOST made it 6 years in this environment!

And there in was the Problem. The writers had created a premise that would have been great if the show could have ended in four years. Once they realized the show wasn't going to stay within their time line, thy had to alter their original ideas and thus try to write backwards to have everything make sense, which didn't turn out very well.

[StevePerryHair]

Of course, everything that happened in the show could have been Jack seeing his life flash before his eyes right before he dies in the crash. A snapshot of what is, what was what could be. A St. Elsewhere moment minus the snow globe.

I'll stick with The Discovery Channel.

Well at least they were allowed an ending. Try starting a show like Flashforward that they cancel after one season. It's not he first time Ive invested time into a show for them to axe it. It ticks me off AT LEAST let them end it in a 2 hour finale kind of thing so there is some closure! TV is very annoying these days! Shows don't last long at all. Im surprised LOST made it 6 years in this environment!

And there in was the Problem. The writers had created a premise that would have been great if the show could have ended in four years. Once they realized the show wasn't going to stay within their time line, thy had to alter their original ideas and thus try to write backwards to have everything make sense, which didn't turn out very well.

Yeah,I was disappointed but then it could have been worse. At least it was thought provoking But it was very confusing. The night I saw it i sat there for 15 minutes after just saying to my husband "WTF was that.. what did we just watch" I mean it wasn't even disappointment. It was confusion and I really had no idea what it meant

[Deb]

The consensus with Lost is that the Island was Purgatory.

"To make a very, very long story short we discovered via Christian Shephard aka Jack’s dead father that all of the people on Oceanic 815 including Desmond, Daniel, Charlotte, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Sayid, Sun, Jin, Richard, Michael, Walt, Miles, Ana Lucia, Locke, Hurley and Benjamin did really live on the island but when they died they moved on to L.A for their afterlife where they had the life that they always dreamed off. In The End we learned that those who did eventually find a way to forgive the people who hurt them , and forgave themselves were reunited with the people who meant something to them an went to heaven."

WTF?

The consensus from those I've talked to is the Island was not purgatory. The flash sideways was. They left it up for a lot of interpretation to be left up for the viewer.

That's the cop out for me.
We can't wrap everything up correctly (As we promised to) because we got lazy in our writing and got every thing twisted in a knot so why don't we just just let the audience make up their own interpretation of what happened.

One of the reasons, I'm bringing this up is because there was this big guy on the news blubbering his heart out about the finale of the show and I was wondering how someone could get so caught up in something that had no real story line and in the final season, had writers making every thing up on the fly just to get the damn show done?

Can you put the spoiler alert in instead of god did it? Because I know someone here who has not seen it yet and it will ruin it for those who haven't

And I think they wanted people to think the island is just a mysterious place, and the flash sideways was a way to have them all redeem all the bad things they were to maybe comfort the audience? That's why it was Purgatory? But they all arrived there at different times and they were the ones important to "jack" only. If you didn't watch it it's really hard to explain it to you.

Hell I'm still trying to wrap my head around Sawyer as a cop?! Mmmm...

[Jana]

The consensus with Lost is that the Island was Purgatory.

"To make a very, very long story short we discovered via Christian Shephard aka Jack’s dead father that all of the people on Oceanic 815 including Desmond, Daniel, Charlotte, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Sayid, Sun, Jin, Richard, Michael, Walt, Miles, Ana Lucia, Locke, Hurley and Benjamin did really live on the island but when they died they moved on to L.A for their afterlife where they had the life that they always dreamed off. In The End we learned that those who did eventually find a way to forgive the people who hurt them , and forgave themselves were reunited with the people who meant something to them an went to heaven."

WTF?

I heard people are reading the ending two different ways. I never watched it after the first season, so I'm not up to speed on any characters.

[Sarah]

I wasn't mad about the spiritual ending as much as I was mad that it was just a big F U to anyone who was watching for answers to the mysteries. It was basically, "lol shit happens... it doesn't really matter what you all were fighting and dying for on the island, because it was just there to change your lives and now you get an afterlife party". Defenders of the finale claim that Lost was always only about character development and anyone watching for mystery was doing it wrong. I think that's bogus. No one who stuck with the show this long didn't have at least some interest in the sci fi aspects.


Also, the island WASN'T purgatory. Christian said everything up to the alternate universe (aka limbo) was real life. This last season was about as subtle as a punch in the face, so I'm inclined to believe the dialogue. So everything we've seen before this season (and the island events this season) were real events in the lives of the Losties. They just impacted each other so much that they got to meet up after they all died, whether they died on the island or long after (i.e. Hurley, Kate and the other survivors).

[brywool]

If you were into the characters, it was a good ending. If you were into it for the Sci Fi aspect, it lacked a LOT. So much wasn't explained.

My wife goes- "hey, didn't Titanic end like this?" YUP. All the dead folks waiting for the last dead folk to show up. I had a similar problem with the latest Star Trek movie that was also done by the Lost guy. Time travel- too easy and too over used. It really seems like Abrahams is the Stephen King of TV/Movies. "I don't know how to end this, or I'm tired of it, so here's a really lame ending for you".

I was disappointed that questions weren't answered, but I liked the character aspect of what happened.
I didn't HATE the ending, but I wanted a lot more out of it.

I can't believe it's taken two days for this topic to show up here.

English accent: "You are everybody" "You are everybody" "you are..."

[Don]

Didn't I already explain that you can't go back in time, that you can only go forward?

[StevePerryHair]

The consensus with Lost is that the Island was Purgatory.

"To make a very, very long story short we discovered via Christian Shephard aka Jack’s dead father that all of the people on Oceanic 815 including Desmond, Daniel, Charlotte, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Sayid, Sun, Jin, Richard, Michael, Walt, Miles, Ana Lucia, Locke, Hurley and Benjamin did really live on the island but when they died they moved on to L.A for their afterlife where they had the life that they always dreamed off. In The End we learned that those who did eventually find a way to forgive the people who hurt them , and forgave themselves were reunited with the people who meant something to them an went to heaven."

WTF?

The consensus from those I've talked to is the Island was not purgatory. The flash sideways was. They left it up for a lot of interpretation to be left up for the viewer.

That's the cop out for me.
We can't wrap everything up correctly (As we promised to) because we got lazy in our writing and got every thing twisted in a knot so why don't we just just let the audience make up their own interpretation of what happened.

One of the reasons, I'm bringing this up is because there was this big guy on the news blubbering his heart out about the finale of the show and I was wondering how someone could get so caught up in something that had no real story line and in the final season, had writers making every thing up on the fly just to get the damn show done?

Can you put the spoiler alert in instead of god did it? Because I know someone here who has not seen it yet and it will ruin it for those who haven't

And I think they wanted people to think the island is just a mysterious place, and the flash sideways was a way to have them all redeem all the bad things they were to maybe comfort the audience? That's why it was Purgatory? But they all arrived there at different times and they were the ones important to "jack" only. If you didn't watch it it's really hard to explain it to you.

Hell I'm still trying to wrap my head around Sawyer as a cop?! Mmmm...

All I know is the ONLY thing that makes me sad is I can't watch him every week anymore