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Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:05 pm
by Chubby321
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
After almost thirty years of making records, I still get surprised that there is so little morality in this business. I got shocked again, just today.....
Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:08 pm
by steveo777
Chubby321 wrote:"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
After almost thirty years of making records, I still get surprised that there is so little morality in this business. I got shocked again, just today.....
I wonder what that was all about? I don't think he's working on Journey stuff right now.
Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:08 pm
by Jana
Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:10 pm
by steveo777
Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:30 pm
by artist4perry
Chubby321 wrote:"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
After almost thirty years of making records, I still get surprised that there is so little morality in this business. I got shocked again, just today.....
Who in the heck is Caveman?

Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:56 pm
by Chubby321
artist4perry wrote:Chubby321 wrote:"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
After almost thirty years of making records, I still get surprised that there is so little morality in this business. I got shocked again, just today.....
Who in the heck is Caveman?

Kevin Shirley.
http://www.cavemanproductions.com/cavediary.htm
Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:08 pm
by artist4perry
Chubby321 wrote:artist4perry wrote:Chubby321 wrote:"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
After almost thirty years of making records, I still get surprised that there is so little morality in this business. I got shocked again, just today.....
Who in the heck is Caveman?

Kevin Shirley.
http://www.cavemanproductions.com/cavediary.htm
I know who Kevin Shirley is, thanks for making it more clear.

Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:12 pm
by Chubby321
artist4perry wrote:Chubby321 wrote:artist4perry wrote:Chubby321 wrote:"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
After almost thirty years of making records, I still get surprised that there is so little morality in this business. I got shocked again, just today.....
Who in the heck is Caveman?

Kevin Shirley.
http://www.cavemanproductions.com/cavediary.htm
I know who Kevin Shirley is, thanks for making it more clear.

Welcome.

Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:04 pm
by portland
That was fast Jana......


Posted:
Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:27 pm
by ScarabGator
Yall reckon he finally realized arnie boy is a lounge karaoke singer?
Re: Caveman's FB Message

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:08 am
by Babyblue

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:18 am
by BobbyinTN
ScarabGator wrote:Yall reckon he finally realized arnie boy is a lounge karaoke singer?
WOW! Now that'a a leap.

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:47 am
by ScarabGator
BobbyinTN wrote:ScarabGator wrote:Yall reckon he finally realized arnie boy is a lounge karaoke singer?
WOW! Now that'a a leap.
leap nothing, its the truth.

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:50 am
by Rockindeano
I read that KS passage and what grabbed me was "30." That's about how long Journey has been making records with Shirley. My money says this has absolutely everything to do with the Saints in Journey.


Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:35 am
by Saint John
I'm not worried.

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:56 am
by Jana
Rockindeano wrote:I read that KS passage and what grabbed me was "30." That's about how long Journey has been making records with Shirley. My money says this has absolutely everything to do with the Saints in Journey.

That's a stretch. He mentioned how long he's been in the business, almost 30 years. Sometimes a sentence means what it means, nothing more.
Re it being Journey, the majority of the album is done for Journey. They're not coming back until fall with just a little more to do.

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:58 am
by fredinator
I read on his facebook page awhile back that he was having trouble with Black Country--specifically Glenn Hughes--and maybe one or two others in the band over money.
I also just read this:
" George Howe Caveman!, My wife has been a huge Steve Perry fan for over 30 years. I read this post on Melodic Rock this week : "It is rumored former vocalist Steve Perry recently handed Kevin Shirley solo material to mix and master.” Are you able to confirm this for Steves millions of fans, who have patiently waited many years for ...any news of Steves return. Thanks for taking the time to read my post. Geordie
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This is ridiculous. I have been working with Journey, and Arnel is singing. I (and the Journey guys, including Arnel) love Steve, but this is just a silly rumor!"
I don't think the comment Kevin is quoted on in this thread is about Journey as much as the haters want it to be.

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:26 am
by Michigan Girl
Haters is a pretty strong word you Pinheads like to throw around ...


Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:27 am
by Saint John
Michigan Girl wrote:Haters is a pretty strong word you Pinheads like to throw around ...

Oh, don't mind Susie.


Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:33 am
by Michigan Girl
Saint John wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Haters is a pretty strong word you Pinheads like to throw around ...

Oh, don't mind Susie.

Thee?!? ...is this a payback?!?!
Oh and BTW~ I read AK's response to this same Caveman quote ^^^posted in the Perry
Forum...I agree w/him, wth kind of answer is that ...makes no sense!?!


Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:35 am
by Jana
Michigan Girl wrote:Haters is a pretty strong word you Pinheads like to throw around ...

Hmmm, I wasn't thowing it around like a Pinhead. I was thowing it out there as a defender of Neal, which has nothing to do with the Pinheads and more to do with some fans' intense dislike of Neal.


Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:37 am
by Michigan Girl
Jana wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Haters is a pretty strong word you Pinheads like to throw around ...

Hmmm, I wasn't thowing it around like a Pinhead. I was thowing it out there as a defender of Neal, which has nothing to do with the Pinheads and more to do with some fans' intense dislike of Neal.

Haters is a pretty strong word you
kneelers like to throw around!!

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:39 am
by S2M
Journey should change their name to STATUS QUO....

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:42 am
by Arkansas
Jana wrote:Rockindeano wrote:I read that KS passage and what grabbed me was "30." That's about how long Journey has been making records with Shirley. My money says this has absolutely everything to do with the Saints in Journey.

That's a stretch. He mentioned how long he's been in the business, almost 30 years. Sometimes a sentence means what it means, nothing more.
Re
it being Journey, the majority of the album is done for Journey. They're not coming back until fall with just a little more to do.
They're coming back in Nov to redo it all with Perry, and turn some of his new solo stuff into Journey.
That's the real reason for the break this summer. Ha.
later~

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:43 am
by Deb
Jana wrote:Rockindeano wrote:I read that KS passage and what grabbed me was "30." That's about how long Journey has been making records with Shirley. My money says this has absolutely everything to do with the Saints in Journey.

That's a stretch. He mentioned how long he's been in the business, almost 30 years. Sometimes a sentence means what it means, nothing more.
Re it being Journey, the majority of the album is done for Journey. They're not coming back until fall with just a little more to do.
Then after that he'll be working with the Mr Big guys on their new album, so no worries Jana, after Journey,
they'll turn Kevin's frown into a smile.


Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:47 am
by Jana
Michigan Girl wrote:Jana wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Haters is a pretty strong word you Pinheads like to throw around ...

Hmmm, I wasn't thowing it around like a Pinhead. I was thowing it out there as a defender of Neal, which has nothing to do with the Pinheads and more to do with some fans' intense dislike of Neal.

Haters is a pretty strong word you
kneelers like to throw around!!
It's Nealers.


Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:48 am
by Michigan Girl
Jana wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Jana wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Haters is a pretty strong word you Pinheads like to throw around ...

Hmmm, I wasn't thowing it around like a Pinhead. I was thowing it out there as a defender of Neal, which has nothing to do with the Pinheads and more to do with some fans' intense dislike of Neal.

Haters is a pretty strong word you
kneelers like to throw around!!
It's Nealers.

KNEELERS!!!
I think your Mel thread needs some attention and where is Portland?!?:wink:

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:56 am
by fredinator

Sorry that you took the hit for that "haters" comment Jana, lol. There are a few over-the-top haters on here, MG--I don't think you're one of them though.

Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:59 am
by portland
Michigan Girl wrote:Jana wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Jana wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Haters is a pretty strong word you Pinheads like to throw around ...

Hmmm, I wasn't thowing it around like a Pinhead. I was thowing it out there as a defender of Neal, which has nothing to do with the Pinheads and more to do with some fans' intense dislike of Neal.

Haters is a pretty strong word you
kneelers like to throw around!!
It's Nealers.

KNEELERS!!! I think your Mel thread needs some attention and where is Portland?!?:wink:
Oh I am right here!
Jana, for Neal she would be on her knees .....so kneelers is much a more appropriate term for her


Posted:
Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:00 am
by portland
fredinator wrote::)

Sorry that you took the hit for that "haters" comment Jana, lol. There are a few over-the-top haters on here, MG--I don't think you're one of them though.
I guess that would be me, right.
Thanks Suse!