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What a clusterfuck disappointment of a movie. Oliver Stone must have failed basic Economics in high school or college. The movie was laughable on so many levels. Josh Brolin was really the only bright spot - he is captivating as the not-quite villain of the film, Bretton James. Shia LeBeouf was terrible, and there was absolutely no chemistry between him and Carey Mulligan or Michael Douglas's Gordon Gekko.

Ehwmatt wrote:What a clusterfuck disappointment of a movie. Oliver Stone must have failed basic Economics in high school or college. The movie was laughable on so many levels. Josh Brolin was really the only bright spot - he is captivating as the not-quite villain of the film, Bretton James. Shia LeBeouf was terrible, and there was absolutely no chemistry between him and Carey Mulligan or Michael Douglas's Gordon Gekko.

It was good, not great. But The Town (bank heist thriller), directed by Ben Affleck, was excellent, getting great reviews across the board. Great movie and superb acting with a great cast, like Jeremey Renner.

Jana wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:What a clusterfuck disappointment of a movie. Oliver Stone must have failed basic Economics in high school or college. The movie was laughable on so many levels. Josh Brolin was really the only bright spot - he is captivating as the not-quite villain of the film, Bretton James. Shia LeBeouf was terrible, and there was absolutely no chemistry between him and Carey Mulligan or Michael Douglas's Gordon Gekko.

It was good, not great. But The Town (bank heist thriller), directed by Ben Affleck, was excellent, getting great reviews across the board. Great movie and superb acting with a great cast, like Jeremey Renner.

The trailer gives away the whole flippin' movie. We went to see Machete and right after the trailer for The Town, one of our group went "I didn't know this was going to be a double feature!"

Me: "Just saved us eleven bucks!!"

Ehwmatt wrote:Shia LeBeouf was terrible

Really getting tired of seeing this kid in every movie. Where have all the genuine movie stars gone?

verslibre wrote:

Jana wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:What a clusterfuck disappointment of a movie. Oliver Stone must have failed basic Economics in high school or college. The movie was laughable on so many levels. Josh Brolin was really the only bright spot - he is captivating as the not-quite villain of the film, Bretton James. Shia LeBeouf was terrible, and there was absolutely no chemistry between him and Carey Mulligan or Michael Douglas's Gordon Gekko.

It was good, not great. But The Town (bank heist thriller), directed by Ben Affleck, was excellent, getting great reviews across the board. Great movie and superb acting with a great cast, like Jeremey Renner.

The trailer gives away the whole flippin' movie. We went to see Machete and right after the trailer for The Town, one of our group went "I didn't know this was going to be a double feature!"

Me: "Just saved us eleven bucks!!"

True. All trailers do that now and it's irritating. But there are three action scenes, robbing a bank, Wells Fargo, and at Fenway Park, that are some of the best action and chase scenes I've seen in a long time. And nice character development in this movie, and even a little love story in it. He surrounded himself with great actors in this movie. Not a weak link in the bunch.

Reminds me of Indie 4 where the actors are just a bit too old to pull it off. A fun action romp like The Expendables or an older period piece such as Unforgiven can get away with it but I don't think advanced age benefits Douglas's character in this one.

A sequel I would have loved to have seen would be to Black Rain, having the Yakuza coming to America to seek retribution against Nick Conklin.
A bit too late for that one now also.

Rising Sun - Now there's a great movie....

S2M wrote:Rising Sun - Now there's a great movie....

One of those rare times where the film was as good as the book, despite taking a few liberties with the source material.

Don wrote:Reminds me of Indie 4 where the actors are just a bit too old to pull it off.

There's been reports of Harrison Ford hitting the gym and gaining bulk in case of an Indy 5. He did look pretty old in the last one, but like Sly as Rambo or Connery as Bond, I'd still pay to see it.

A film I would like to see rebooted (again) would be Last Of The Mohicans. I want to see a version closer to the book, perhaps using the Masterpiece Theatre adaption as a blue print.
I have to admit that I enjoyed Mann's 1992 screenplay with Daniel Day Lewis but he really did stray quite a bit from Cooper's novel.

Jana wrote:

verslibre wrote:

Jana wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:What a clusterfuck disappointment of a movie. Oliver Stone must have failed basic Economics in high school or college. The movie was laughable on so many levels. Josh Brolin was really the only bright spot - he is captivating as the not-quite villain of the film, Bretton James. Shia LeBeouf was terrible, and there was absolutely no chemistry between him and Carey Mulligan or Michael Douglas's Gordon Gekko.

It was good, not great. But The Town (bank heist thriller), directed by Ben Affleck, was excellent, getting great reviews across the board. Great movie and superb acting with a great cast, like Jeremey Renner.

The trailer gives away the whole flippin' movie. We went to see Machete and right after the trailer for The Town, one of our group went "I didn't know this was going to be a double feature!"

Me: "Just saved us eleven bucks!!"

True. All trailers do that now and it's irritating. But there are three action scenes, robbing a bank, Wells Fargo, and at Fenway Park, that are some of the best action and chase scenes I've seen in a long time. And nice character development in this movie, and even a little love story in it. He surrounded himself with great actors in this movie. Not a weak link in the bunch.

It doesn't take a film critic to know Jeremy Renner stole his thunder...and it was only the trailer!

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:Shia LeBeouf was terrible

Really getting tired of seeing this kid in every movie. Where have all the genuine movie stars gone?

I mean, he really sucks. There's no presence at all about him and frankly, I don't even look at him and see a good looking dude. He looks like a college freshman. I'm admittedly a pretty youthful looking 24, and he looks ages younger than me. He was totally unbelievable in his role in this movie. The dude is simply shit.

Ehwmatt wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:Shia LeBeouf was terrible

Really getting tired of seeing this kid in every movie. Where have all the genuine movie stars gone?

I mean, he really sucks. There's no presence at all about him and frankly, I don't even look at him and see a good looking dude. He looks like a college freshman. I'm admittedly a pretty youthful looking 24, and he looks ages younger than me. He was totally unbelievable in his role in this movie. The dude is simply shit.

Nah, man, he's gonna get the Oscar for "FUCK YOU, BRETTON!!!"

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

Don wrote:Reminds me of Indie 4 where the actors are just a bit too old to pull it off.

There's been reports of Harrison Ford hitting the gym and gaining bulk in case of an Indy 5. He did look pretty old in the last one, but like Sly as Rambo or Connery as Bond, I'd still pay to see it.

Harrison Ford can still pull off the role. The question is if they can keep the script somewhat grounded in reality unlike parts of the last film. It's ok to push the boundaries beyond what is "normal"....pushing beyond what is humanly possible tends to knock me out of the movie.

kgdjpubs wrote:Harrison Ford can still pull off the role. The question is if they can keep the script somewhat grounded in reality unlike parts of the last film. It's ok to push the boundaries beyond what is "normal"....pushing beyond what is humanly possible tends to knock me out of the movie.

George Lucas for some reason was insistent that aliens be featured in part 4. At one early stage, the script involved Jones thwarting off an alien invasion at his university where he teaches archaeology. The final version of the film obviously marginalized the extraterrestrial element, but I'm not sure if the movie really works. LeBeouf sucked in that too.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

kgdjpubs wrote:Harrison Ford can still pull off the role. The question is if they can keep the script somewhat grounded in reality unlike parts of the last film. It's ok to push the boundaries beyond what is "normal"....pushing beyond what is humanly possible tends to knock me out of the movie.

George Lucas for some reason was insistent that aliens be featured in part 4. At one early stage, the script involved Jones thwarting off an alien invasion at his university where he teaches archaeology. The final version of the film obviously marginalized the extraterrestrial element, but I'm not sure if the movie really works. LeBeouf sucked in that too.

The aliens part, I can deal with. The surviving a nuclear explosion by jumping in a fridge, and swinging with the apes are more what I'm talking about.l

verslibre wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:Shia LeBeouf was terrible

Really getting tired of seeing this kid in every movie. Where have all the genuine movie stars gone?

I mean, he really sucks. There's no presence at all about him and frankly, I don't even look at him and see a good looking dude. He looks like a college freshman. I'm admittedly a pretty youthful looking 24, and he looks ages younger than me. He was totally unbelievable in his role in this movie. The dude is simply shit.

Nah, man, he's gonna get the Oscar for "FUCK YOU, BRETTON!!!"

That was such a pussy ass moment - he sounded like such a homo

Interesting article exposing the financial/economic inaccuracies of the film:

http://hellermanbaretz.com/soundbites/h ... lity-check

Ehwmatt wrote:Shia LeBeouf

WHY is everyone hiring this clown to be in their movies? I haven't witnessed anything worthy of acclaim from this dude.

Don wrote:A film I would like to see rebooted (again) would be Last Of The Mohicans. I want to see a version closer to the book, perhaps using the Masterpiece Theatre adaption as a blue print.
I have to admit that I enjoyed Mann's 1992 screenplay with Daniel Day Lewis but he really did stray quite a bit from Cooper's novel.

The D.D.L. version of Mohicans is one of my absolute, top-3 favorite movies of all time. I think I saw it 14 times in the theater. I thought it was a great first date movie.

Rip Rokken wrote:

Don wrote:A film I would like to see rebooted (again) would be Last Of The Mohicans. I want to see a version closer to the book, perhaps using the Masterpiece Theatre adaption as a blue print.
I have to admit that I enjoyed Mann's 1992 screenplay with Daniel Day Lewis but he really did stray quite a bit from Cooper's novel.

The D.D.L. version of Mohicans is one of my absolute, top-3 favorite movies of all time. I think I saw it 14 times in the theater. I thought it was a great first date movie.

probably one of the best action movies in the last 30 years also. One of the few films where you actually care about the characters, with an intelligent screenplay. The ending where dad goes berserk never fails to get the adrenaline pumping.

kgdjpubs wrote:

Rip Rokken wrote:

Don wrote:A film I would like to see rebooted (again) would be Last Of The Mohicans. I want to see a version closer to the book, perhaps using the Masterpiece Theatre adaption as a blue print.
I have to admit that I enjoyed Mann's 1992 screenplay with Daniel Day Lewis but he really did stray quite a bit from Cooper's novel.

The D.D.L. version of Mohicans is one of my absolute, top-3 favorite movies of all time. I think I saw it 14 times in the theater. I thought it was a great first date movie.

probably one of the best action movies in the last 30 years also. One of the few films where you actually care about the characters, with an intelligent screenplay. The ending where dad goes berserk never fails to get the adrenaline pumping.

Definitely. The action sequences were brutal, but graceful and poetic in a way. Notice how similar period war films that came afterward mimicked the battle action style -- The Patriot is one example.