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They had Neil Young on. I'm waiting for a great song. And he starts singing a slow version of Whip Your Hair, that little teeny bopper song by tween Willow Smith. He's singing it all somber with a straight face. And halfway through the song out comes Bruce Springsteen singing it with him. It was hysterical. And it wasn't Neil Young. It was Jimmy Fallon disguised and I didn't notice it. He sounded just like Neil.


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that was fun!

Jana wrote:They had Neil Young on. I'm waiting for a great song. And he starts singing a slow version of Whip Your Hair, that little teeny bopper song by tween Willow Smith. He's singing it all somber with a straight face. And halfway through the song out comes Bruce Springsteen singing it with him. It was hysterical. And it wasn't Neil Young. It was Jimmy Fallon disguised and I didn't notice it. He sounded just like Neil.


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It wasn't Springsteen either....my guess - Sandler.....LOL

You can see the shinyness of the two-sided tape under his mustache....

S2M wrote:

Jana wrote:They had Neil Young on. I'm waiting for a great song. And he starts singing a slow version of Whip Your Hair, that little teeny bopper song by tween Willow Smith. He's singing it all somber with a straight face. And halfway through the song out comes Bruce Springsteen singing it with him. It was hysterical. And it wasn't Neil Young. It was Jimmy Fallon disguised and I didn't notice it. He sounded just like Neil.


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It wasn't Springsteen either....my guess - Sandler.....LOL

You can see the shinyness of the two-sided tape under his mustache....

No. It was Springsteen. I wondered at first, too, because of the disguise. He came on afterwards and is now being interviewed by Jimmy and will sing next.

Sorry, not buying it....

Just checked TV Guide, Springsteen is the only musical guest listed, Was Neil just doing a cameo?

Don wrote:Just checked TV Guide, Springsteen is the only musical guest listed, Was Neil just doing a cameo?

No, it never was Neil. It was Jimmy disguised. He sounds just like Neil. It was Springsteen with him.

Jana wrote:

Don wrote:Just checked TV Guide, Springsteen is the only musical guest listed, Was Neil just doing a cameo?

No, it never was Neil. It was Jimmy disguised. He sounds just like Neil. It was Springsteen with him.

Yeah, I know. Jimmy's done Neil a couple of times. I was just being an ass.

I think it was Bruce in makeup to look like 70s Bruce...

Either way, that was awesome!!!!

You don't have to be a Springsteen fan or hater to laugh at this. Fallon imitates him to a tee. I pissed myself laughing.

It's only 2-3 minutes and well worth it.

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Also Jana,

I had no idea that he wrote "Fire" for Elvis Presley. Did you know that? That blew me away.

Awesome!!

One more thing. This is speculated to be the best box set ever released. It includes a replicate notebook complete with handwritten lyrics, notes, thoughts and ideas as well as pictures and prospective set lists. I would love to see Journey put out something like this from the Escape era. It would be fascinating to see Perry, Schon and Cain's mindsets and ideas. See how complicated writing Escape was. Now Darkness on the Edge of Town had 70 songs to choose ten from...I don't think Journey had 70 songs but still, it would be very interesting to see. It's a shame Azoff management doesn't think this way...there is still a throng of Journey classic fans who would eat something like this up. I certainly would.



Now imagine if Escape or Frontiers had a box set like this. You big Journey fans would shell out the 100 or so bucks for it. It would be awesome. Cyndy and Lora should show this to Steve and have him start working on it.

Sony holds the cards here. To create a boxset means Journey would have to come back into the fold. I don't know if Sony even wants a Perryless Journey back at this point. They seem perfectly content churning out the Greatest Hits Disc.

Don wrote:Sony holds the cards here. To create a boxset means Journey would have to come back into the fold. I don't know if Sony even wants a Perryless Journey back at this point. They seem perfectly content churning out the Greatest Hits Disc.

Oh come on Donald. You don't think Sony would cream their jeans over a box set like this one for Journey? Let's break this down. Journey was one of their biggest bands they ever had...surely cashing in on yesteryear would be too good to let pass. I don't know if Journey kept their notes and ideas like Springsteen did, but I remember reading somewhere that they did save all their recording tapes both studio and live...and trhey had to bake them and all that shit. You gotta think they saved the songbooks too. I just think they could get the same price Bruce is getting here (100 bucks +)if they put out a quality product. Now it also comes down to working management too. Bruce has Jon Lanau as his manager. Landau manages ONE artist and devotes his entire time to him. Azoff Mgt has multiple artists in which Journey is not the top horse in the barn. Would Azoff put in the required work and backing support needed to make this a top seller? Would they push the damned thing and advertise? That is the wild card IMHO.

Rockindeano wrote:

Don wrote:Sony holds the cards here. To create a boxset means Journey would have to come back into the fold. I don't know if Sony even wants a Perryless Journey back at this point. They seem perfectly content churning out the Greatest Hits Disc.

Oh come on Donald. You don't think Sony would cream their jeans over a box set like this one for Journey? Let's break this down. Journey was one of their biggest bands they ever had...surely cashing in on yesteryear would be too good to let pass. I don't know if Journey kept their notes and ideas like Springsteen did, but I remember reading somewhere that they did save all their recording tapes both studio and live...and trhey had to bake them and all that shit. You gotta think they saved the songbooks too. I just think they could get the same price Bruce is getting here (100 bucks +)if they put out a quality product. Now it also comes down to working management too. Bruce has Jon Lanau as his manager. Landau manages ONE artist and devotes his entire time to him. Azoff Mgt has multiple artists in which Journey is not the top horse in the barn. Would Azoff put in the required work and backing support needed to make this a top seller? Would they push the damned thing and advertise? That is the wild card IMHO.

Not for what Irving would want them to give up for it. Probably an additional two album deal of new material with all marketing paid by Sony, and a dollar per disc rate more in line with any Wal-Mart offers. If Sony doesn't think they can get at least one multi-platinum album out of this new lineup they will say forget it. Irving will get Wal-Mart to peddle the next Journey album for $7.99 and that will be it.

One more thing Gunbot- I now am rethinking this idea....maybe Journey couldn't do this with one album like Bruce did with Darkness. Maybe it would have to be a career type box set, but they could really reveal many lost gems, happenings, ideas, goof offs in the studios, etc. Maybe release a "The Classic Years" Journey box set. I was probably over reaching in my previous post, calling for an Escape or Frontiers only box set. They didn't write 70 songs for each album to choose from like Bruce did, so that may quell that idea, but I still maintain you could sell a real high quality set for the years '78-'96. You wouldn't really have to release all the same songs you already have...you could release demos, live versions, alternative versions, unreleased songs both with lyrics and without, etc. I am sure they have enough material to do this. And, like Springsteen, release a few NEVER RELEASED concert DVD's that the Journey fan has been clamoring for, ahem, ROR and maybe that Japan Frontiers show, or even the last show with Rolie that Herbert maintains is the best Journey show he has ever seen. There is material to be delivered if they want to do it.

Rockindeano wrote:One more thing Gunbot- I now am rethinking this idea....maybe Journey couldn't do this with one album like Bruce did with Darkness. Maybe it would have to be a career type box set, but they could really reveal many lost gems, happenings, ideas, goof offs in the studios, etc. Maybe release a "The Classic Years" Journey box set. I was probably over reaching in my previous post, calling for an Escape or Frontiers only box set. They didn't write 70 songs for each album to choose from like Bruce did, so that may quell that idea, but I still maintain you could sell a real high quality set for the years '78-'96. You wouldn't really have to release all the same songs you already have...you could release demos, live versions, alternative versions, unreleased songs both with lyrics and without, etc. I am sure they have enough material to do this. And, like Springsteen, release a few NEVER RELEASED concert DVD's that the Journey fan has been clamoring for, ahem, ROR and maybe that Japan Frontiers show, or even the last show with Rolie that Herbert maintains is the best Journey show he has ever seen. There is material to be delivered if they want to do it.

Perry has to be on board for any DVD release. Neal doesn't want anything promoting old Journey when he is selling the 'New King'. We already have Time3 with all the pre TBF stuff and Essential Journey was just re-released last year with an added disc. I just don't see a monster box package happening anytime soon.

Don wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

Don wrote:Sony holds the cards here. To create a boxset means Journey would have to come back into the fold. I don't know if Sony even wants a Perryless Journey back at this point. They seem perfectly content churning out the Greatest Hits Disc.

Oh come on Donald. You don't think Sony would cream their jeans over a box set like this one for Journey? Let's break this down. Journey was one of their biggest bands they ever had...surely cashing in on yesteryear would be too good to let pass. I don't know if Journey kept their notes and ideas like Springsteen did, but I remember reading somewhere that they did save all their recording tapes both studio and live...and trhey had to bake them and all that shit. You gotta think they saved the songbooks too. I just think they could get the same price Bruce is getting here (100 bucks +)if they put out a quality product. Now it also comes down to working management too. Bruce has Jon Lanau as his manager. Landau manages ONE artist and devotes his entire time to him. Azoff Mgt has multiple artists in which Journey is not the top horse in the barn. Would Azoff put in the required work and backing support needed to make this a top seller? Would they push the damned thing and advertise? That is the wild card IMHO.

Not for what Irving would want them to give up for it. Probably an additional two album deal of new material with all marketing paid by Sony, and a dollar per disc rate more in line with any Wal-Mart offers. If Sony doesn't think they can get at least one multi-platinum album out of this new lineup they will say forget it. Irving will get Wal-Mart to peddle the next Journey album for $7.99 and that will be it.

That is passive thinking(hoping) on Irving's part. Look, the only way their new disc goes platinum, is because of A) the 7.99 price at Walmart and B) the Filipino Nation. Not being a pisser here, but look at the last release. WITH all the fresh hoopla over Pineda's sob story, the disc moved a million units, mainly in part to the Pinoy's. Right? Well, the buzz has worn off, the band has not gotten any bigger, and in fact may have lost momentum, and I just cannot see them going platinum here in the US. Maybe worldwide because of the Asia contingent, but no way do they get award here in America only.

My argument for Sony is screw present day Journey...let them have their Walmart release and all that crap Irv wants to make a few bucks, but to me, the real meat and potatoes is a Perry/Journey high quality box set for a nice big fat price...ok, maybe not a hundred bucks, but say 75 bucks....come to think of it, they could include a small booklet, explaining to the devoted fan, what really transpired through the years of 85- through 96....maybe talk about the Street Talk and FTLOSM times as well as Bad English and all that shit....not a tell all, but maybe shed some light to the fan.

Don wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:One more thing Gunbot- I now am rethinking this idea....maybe Journey couldn't do this with one album like Bruce did with Darkness. Maybe it would have to be a career type box set, but they could really reveal many lost gems, happenings, ideas, goof offs in the studios, etc. Maybe release a "The Classic Years" Journey box set. I was probably over reaching in my previous post, calling for an Escape or Frontiers only box set. They didn't write 70 songs for each album to choose from like Bruce did, so that may quell that idea, but I still maintain you could sell a real high quality set for the years '78-'96. You wouldn't really have to release all the same songs you already have...you could release demos, live versions, alternative versions, unreleased songs both with lyrics and without, etc. I am sure they have enough material to do this. And, like Springsteen, release a few NEVER RELEASED concert DVD's that the Journey fan has been clamoring for, ahem, ROR and maybe that Japan Frontiers show, or even the last show with Rolie that Herbert maintains is the best Journey show he has ever seen. There is material to be delivered if they want to do it.

Perry has to be on board for any DVD release. Neal doesn't want anything promoting old Journey when he is selling the 'New King'. We already have Time3 with all the pre TBF stuff and Essential Journey was just re-released last year with an added disc. I just don't see a monster box package happening anytime soon.

I think Espee would be onboard issuing a DVD of the ROR tour, unless he didn't find his own voice up to snuff(food for thought). As for Neal not wanting old Journey to trump his new king bullshit, it has already happened. Remember when Houston '81 came out? It dwarfed whatever the current band was doing at the time. Same with the DSB resurgence...it was Perry DSB that got all the run, not Pineda DSB...that song trumped anything the Revelation era did, ten fold. Besides, Neal gets paid if BOTH versions score....and we know that bastard is all about the greenbacks.

Have I ever mentioned to anyone here about the Journey slot machines that almost got built? Oh boy Schon was high on that idea I tell ya. He was thinking money money money.

I get what you are saying but to have all those goodies requires Sony to deal with members from Current Journey and Azoff will want so much in return, Sony is going to see it as not being worth it.

Don wrote:I get what you are saying but to have all those goodies requires Sony to deal with members from Current Journey and Azoff will want so much in return, Sony is going to see it as not being worth it.

This is where I fall off in terms of knowledge to you....Classic Journey is Azoff's property as well as modern day Journey, or does HH still maintain some ownership of the classic years? If you are saying Irv has total control, then yeah, forget this idea, as he will want to bend Sony over and not give them the courtesy of a reach around. I was thinking perhaps Perry, Schon, Cain, Smith, Valory and maybe Herbert still owned a timepiece of Journey from the years they were all together. I just don't know.

Journey needs to release stuff like the PBS Soundstage show, or the Bluejean Network show from '80. Stuff from the Infinity era. I used to (and may still) have all that 70s stuff on VHS. When I was heavy into Journey trading....I even have some footage of Fleischman singing on stage, and a complete Storm concert, and also some stuff of Neal and Jon doing some Beyond the Thunder stuff....a good 20-25 VHS tapes of rare shit somewhere....

Journey isn't Bon Jovi or Bruce who can churn out GH packages three years in a row, the band doesn't have those types of fans anymore (if they ever did). AC-DC can do a mega box set, as their fans love Brian and Bon both. Journey, on the other hand is too splintered in its fanbase to make an expensive purchase like this cost effective.

Rockindeano wrote:Also Jana,

I had no idea that he wrote "Fire" for Elvis Presley. Did you know that? That blew me away.

No, I didn't. Really great interview. More like a great conversation about Springsteen's career instead of the usual canned questions. That is because Jimmy is a huge fan of Springsteen, so asks things that music lovers would be interested in.

Rockindeano wrote:

Don wrote:I get what you are saying but to have all those goodies requires Sony to deal with members from Current Journey and Azoff will want so much in return, Sony is going to see it as not being worth it.

This is where I fall off in terms of knowledge to you....Classic Journey is Azoff's property as well as modern day Journey, or does HH still maintain some ownership of the classic years? If you are saying Irv has total control, then yeah, forget this idea, as he will want to bend Sony over and not give them the courtesy of a reach around. I was thinking perhaps Perry, Schon, Cain, Smith, Valory and maybe Herbert still owned a timepiece of Journey from the years they were all together. I just don't know.

For all the special material, Columbia would have to make a request and this is where Irving can put the squeeze play on. If he is trying to get the band the best deal possible through Wal-mart and at the same time a few of his troops are giving Sony access to stuff Azoff might want the band to package later as part of getting the band a deal with a big box store, it's going to be a problem.

AC-DC kept Sony as their label even with their Wal-Mart exclusive where as Journey let everyone know that wanted to give Sony a giant middle finger by re-recording under their own label and going straight to Wally World.
Definitely not a relationship with a lot of love loss.

Jana wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Also Jana,

I had no idea that he wrote "Fire" for Elvis Presley. Did you know that? That blew me away.

No, I didn't. Really great interview. More like a great conversation about Springsteen's career instead of the usual canned questions. That is because Jimmy is a huge fan of Springsteen, so asks things that music lovers would be interested in.

Did you see Jimmy do his Bruce impression? and sometimes right in front of him? Bruce laughed at it. Jimmy is talented to be sure.

Don wrote:AC-DC kept Sony as their label even with their Wal-Mart exclusive where as Journey let everyone know that wanted to give Sony a giant middle finger by re-recording under their own label and going straight to Wally World.
Definitely not a relationship with a lot of love loss.

Aw, now it makes perfect sense. Journey-shoot-self-in foot. Typical.

S2M wrote: a complete Storm concert,

Quick question...was Smitty playing with them live??