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Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:52 am
by S2M
...keep your pants on, I'm not talking about becoming a loser republican.... :lol:

I have been listening to In the Spirit of Things...I'm kinda digging it. :oops:

:P :lol: :P :lol:

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:05 am
by conversationpc
S2M wrote:...keep your pants on, I'm not talking about becoming a loser republican.... :lol:

I have been listening to In the Spirit of Things...I'm kinda digging it. :oops:

:P :lol: :P :lol:


Holy crap!!! We must have reached the nexus of the universe or something like that! I think I need a defribulator :shock: :lol:

Seriously...There are a couple of bad songs but at least they went in a more progressive direction with a couple of the songs there, particularly "Rainmaker". There's some astounding axework there from Steve Morse.

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:07 am
by S2M
conversationpc wrote:
S2M wrote:...keep your pants on, I'm not talking about becoming a loser republican.... :lol:

I have been listening to In the Spirit of Things...I'm kinda digging it. :oops:

:P :lol: :P :lol:


Holy crap!!! We must have reached the nexus of the universe or something like that! I think I need a defribulator :shock: :lol:

Seriously...There are a couple of bad songs but at least they went in a more progressive direction with a couple of the songs there, particularly "Rainmaker". There's some astounding axework there from Steve Morse.


I know! You've been like a Jehovah's Witness, dragging your kids around in sub-zero temperatures knocking on my door, for upwards of 10 years trying to get me to like that album... :P

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:28 am
by conversationpc
S2M wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
S2M wrote:...keep your pants on, I'm not talking about becoming a loser republican.... :lol:

I have been listening to In the Spirit of Things...I'm kinda digging it. :oops:

:P :lol: :P :lol:


Holy crap!!! We must have reached the nexus of the universe or something like that! I think I need a defribulator :shock: :lol:

Seriously...There are a couple of bad songs but at least they went in a more progressive direction with a couple of the songs there, particularly "Rainmaker". There's some astounding axework there from Steve Morse.


I know! You've been like a Jehovah's Witness, dragging your kids around in sub-zero temperatures knocking on my door, for upwards of 10 years trying to get me to like that album... :P


It's not even one of my favorite Kansas albums, either, for that matter but it is fun to smack you around with it once in a while. :lol:

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:31 am
by S2M
conversationpc wrote:It's not even one of my favorite Kansas album, either, for that matter but it is fun to smack you around with it once in a while. :lol:


Ummm...no. That honor goes to Leftoverture...not a filler on that bitch. :)

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:22 am
by conversationpc
S2M wrote:
conversationpc wrote:It's not even one of my favorite Kansas album, either, for that matter but it is fun to smack you around with it once in a while. :lol:


Ummm...no. That honor goes to Leftoverture...not a filler on that bitch. :)


Same here.

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:45 pm
by StevePerryHair
S2M wrote:...keep your pants on, I'm not talking about becoming a loser republican.... :lol:

I have been listening to In the Spirit of Things...I'm kinda digging it. :oops:

:P :lol: :P :lol:
I thought you'd be talking about breakfast cereal...since we had the lunch thread yesterday :P That might have been more exciting ;) :lol:

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:38 pm
by Moon Beam
S2M wrote:Ummm...no. That honor goes to Leftoverture...not a filler on that bitch. :)



That's my fave from them....amazing album!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:34 pm
by Pelata
My fave from them is Point Of Know Return...front to back a classic!

In The Spirit Of Things isn't a bad album at all...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:55 pm
by conversationpc
Pelata wrote:My fave from them is Point Of Know Return...front to back a classic!

In The Spirit Of Things isn't a bad album at all...


ANYTHING from them from "Song for America" through "Monolith" is a classic, in my opinion. I also consider "Somewhere to Elsewhere" in that category.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:20 am
by yulog
Pelata wrote:My fave from them is Point Of Know Return...front to back a classic!

In The Spirit Of Things isn't a bad album at all...


Its not a good album at all either Image

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:43 pm
by Arianddu
StevePerryHair wrote:
S2M wrote:...keep your pants on, I'm not talking about becoming a loser republican.... :lol:

I have been listening to In the Spirit of Things...I'm kinda digging it. :oops:

:P :lol: :P :lol:
I thought you'd be talking about breakfast cereal...since we had the lunch thread yesterday :P That might have been more exciting ;) :lol:


Yeah, I thought Sean was about to announce he'd discovered the wonders of All-Bran ;)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:59 pm
by S2M
Pelata wrote:My fave from them is Point Of Know Return...front to back a classic!

In The Spirit Of Things isn't a bad album at all...


Contains 2 fillers - Sparks of the Tempest, and Lightning's Hand... :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:50 pm
by conversationpc
S2M wrote:
Pelata wrote:My fave from them is Point Of Know Return...front to back a classic!

In The Spirit Of Things isn't a bad album at all...


Contains 2 fillers - Sparks of the Tempest, and Lightning's Hand... :lol:


I like both of those songs, especially "Sparks of the Tempest".

Re: Mr. Kellogg - You have finally converted me....

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:45 am
by Andrew
conversationpc wrote:
S2M wrote:...keep your pants on, I'm not talking about becoming a loser republican.... :lol:

I have been listening to In the Spirit of Things...I'm kinda digging it. :oops:

:P :lol: :P :lol:


Holy crap!!! We must have reached the nexus of the universe or something like that! I think I need a defribulator :shock: :lol:

Seriously...There are a couple of bad songs but at least they went in a more progressive direction with a couple of the songs there, particularly "Rainmaker". There's some astounding axework there from Steve Morse.


My fav Kansas album.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:43 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
i remember hearing Play That Game Tonight..off of Vinyl Confessions 1982 .. .. a real great tune.. i bought the album.. it was terrible.. just the worst .. i dont get it even today .. one listenable tune..

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:35 pm
by yulog
larryfromnextdoor wrote:i remember hearing Play That Game Tonight..off of Vinyl Confessions 1982 .. .. a real great tune.. i bought the album.. it was terrible.. just the worst .. i dont get it even today .. one listenable tune..


Larry you drinking ? thats a great cd :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:46 pm
by S2M
larryfromnextdoor wrote:i remember hearing Play That Game Tonight..off of Vinyl Confessions 1982 .. .. a real great tune.. i bought the album.. it was terrible.. just the worst .. i dont get it even today .. one listenable tune..


Livgren was in a rut writing-wise....and the Elefante bros. were penning crap-ass soft rock....but to be fair, Monolith and Audio-visions(much better than Monolith) weren't exactly up to Leftoverture/PoKR status either..... :?

I would say that there are more than ONE listenable tune on that release: Play the Game, Crossfire, Chasing Shadows

and from Drastic Measures, the other Elefante debacle: Fight Fire with Fire and Everybody's My Friend are decent tracks....

Power was great, In the Spirit of things is growing on me, and Freaks of Nature is an absolute piece of crap, save for Black Fathom Four

Always Never the Same is more copycat accompanied by a symphony stuff....every band was doing that around that time...Somewhere to Elsewhere was back in the right destination...

Kansas thru Two For the Show is the classic Kansas era...two best voices of the 70s were Walsh and RJD....bar NONE.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:50 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
yulog wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:i remember hearing Play That Game Tonight..off of Vinyl Confessions 1982 .. .. a real great tune.. i bought the album.. it was terrible.. just the worst .. i dont get it even today .. one listenable tune..


Larry you drinking ? thats a great cd :shock:


all of your picks have been on the money with me.. i better give this one another try..

this is pretty grown up music for me though ..

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:51 pm
by conversationpc
S2M wrote:...and Freaks of Nature is an absolute piece of crap, save for Black Fathom Four


We disagree here again...I love "I Can Fly", the title track, and "Cold Grey Morning".

Kansas thru Two For the Show is the classic Kansas era...two best voices of the 70s were Walsh and RJD....bar NONE.


Walsh's voice in the 70s was excellent...He had ALL the range of Perry, if not more, and clear as a bell without a sign of strain even on the highest notes.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:51 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
S2M wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:i remember hearing Play That Game Tonight..off of Vinyl Confessions 1982 .. .. a real great tune.. i bought the album.. it was terrible.. just the worst .. i dont get it even today .. one listenable tune..


Livgren was in a rut writing-wise....and the Elefante bros. were penning crap-ass soft rock....but to be fair, Monolith and Audio-visions(much better than Monolith) weren't exactly up to Leftoverture/PoKR status either..... :?

I would say that there are more than ONE listenable tune on that release: Play the Game, Crossfire, Chasing Shadows

and from Drastic Measures, the other Elefante debacle: Fight Fire with Fire and Everybody's My Friend are decent tracks....

Power was great, In the Spirit of things is growing on me, and Freaks of Nature is an absolute piece of crap, save for Black Fathom Four

Always Never the Same is more copycat accompanied by a symphony stuff....every band was doing that around that time...Somewhere to Elsewhere was back in the right destination...

Kansas thru Two For the Show is the classic Kansas era...two best voices of the 70s were Walsh and RJD....bar NONE.


great points..

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:52 pm
by conversationpc
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
yulog wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:i remember hearing Play That Game Tonight..off of Vinyl Confessions 1982 .. .. a real great tune.. i bought the album.. it was terrible.. just the worst .. i dont get it even today .. one listenable tune..


Larry you drinking ? thats a great cd :shock:


all of your picks have been on the money with me.. i better give this one another try..

this is pretty grown up music for me though ..


It's certainly not a great album but besides "Play the Game Tonight", both "Chasing Shadows" and "Crossfire" are excellent tunes as well. In my opinion, "Drastic Measures" was a far worse album.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:57 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
conversationpc wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
yulog wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:i remember hearing Play That Game Tonight..off of Vinyl Confessions 1982 .. .. a real great tune.. i bought the album.. it was terrible.. just the worst .. i dont get it even today .. one listenable tune..


Larry you drinking ? thats a great cd :shock:


all of your picks have been on the money with me.. i better give this one another try..

this is pretty grown up music for me though ..


It's certainly not a great album but besides "Play the Game Tonight", both "Chasing Shadows" and "Crossfire" are excellent tunes as well. In my opinion, "Drastic Measures" was a far worse album.


ive always loved the "radio friendly" Kansas tunes.. .. you and i have had this conversation before .. but i LOVE

the STREETS album of this time ..

If Love Should Go is a rocker..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuqk66j5IVo

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:04 pm
by conversationpc
larryfromnextdoor wrote:ive always loved the "radio friendly" Kansas tunes.. .. you and i have had this conversation before .. but i LOVE

the STREETS album of this time ..

If Love Should Go is a rocker..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuqk66j5IVo


Yeah, both of those Streets albums were pretty good, in my opinion. There's a good live version of that song on a "King Biscuit Flower Hour" release.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:04 pm
by S2M
Steve Walsh's solo efforts are also great music. Schemer-Dreamer, and Glossolalia are classic.

and as an aside: Dio does an awesome job on Kerry Livgren's, Mask of the Great Deceiver - off of Seeds of Change

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:20 pm
by S2M
This would be(and, in fact is) my Kansas playlist:

Black Fathom
Everybody's My Friend
Fight Fire with Fire
Crossfire
Chasing Shadows
Play the Game Tonight
Death of Mother Nature Suite
Journey from Mariabronn
Down the Road
All the World
Child of Innocence
Icarus(Borne of Wings of Steel) favorite Kansas song
It's You
Mysteries and Mayhem
The Pinnacle
Two Cents Worth
Cheyenne Anthem
Magnum Opus
Questions of My Childhood
Carry on Wayward Son
Miracles out of Nowhere
Opus Insert
The Wall
What's on my Mind
Closet Chronicles
Hopelessly Human
Nobody's Home
Paradox
Portrait (He Knew)
The Spider
Point of Know Return
Curtain Of Iron
Got to Rock On
Loner
Relentless
Can't Cry Anymore
Power
Musicatto
Taking in the View
Tomb 19
Hold On
No One Together
Look at the time
When the World was Young
Icarus II
People of the South Wind
Bring it Back
Apercu
Song for America
The Pinnacle

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:01 pm
by S2M
Ok....you guys got me all jacked up on Kansas tonight! :lol:

Just popped in the Kansas show from Topeka '09...and I gotta say I much prefer Steinhardt on violin (also his vocals on Miracles out of Nowhere crushes Greer's)...Having Livgren sit in on guitar for Hold On was awesome....I thought he should have stayed out there for more songs. Not having Elefante sit in for Fight Fire with Fire was a mistake...he OWNS that song.

Walsh's voice is totally toast...it is a shame. Although much better than his 90s voice, it seems strained 99% of the time.

Device Voice Drum is a better show, I believe....and the Omaha, NE show from '82 (Live Confessions)is even better - even though there is no Walsh. I have since lost that show, and wish I could find another copy...

Kansas is one of those bands that COMPLETELY ignores their fans by holding back vintage shows from the 70s....something from Leftoverture Tour, and PoKR would be EPIC for us fans.....

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:15 pm
by yulog
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
yulog wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:i remember hearing Play That Game Tonight..off of Vinyl Confessions 1982 .. .. a real great tune.. i bought the album.. it was terrible.. just the worst .. i dont get it even today .. one listenable tune..


Larry you drinking ? thats a great cd :shock:


all of your picks have been on the money with me.. i better give this one another try..

this is pretty grown up music for me though ..


It's certainly not a great album but besides "Play the Game Tonight", both "Chasing Shadows" and "Crossfire" are excellent tunes as well. In my opinion, "Drastic Measures" was a far worse album.


ive always loved the "radio friendly" Kansas tunes.. .. you and i have had this conversation before .. but i LOVE

the STREETS album of this time ..

If Love Should Go is a rocker..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuqk66j5IVo


Great song :wink: