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Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

You know, as current Active Duty USAF member (just passed my 20yr-mark in Oct),
I've been saying the same thing for a very long time:

"I would rather work with some competent homosexuals than
some of the Jack-Holes I work with now!"

However, I think this is going to turn out bad in the long run.
While I fully support this plan & have no fears of serving with openly-gay
men & women, I am probably in the minority with that mindset.
Especially when you're discussing "gay men" and some of the more hardcore
soldiers serving everywhere in the Army & Marines...

I really hope this works out, and is a positve new direction for our military
and the homosexual community.
Just got my fears, thats all I'm saying...

Congrats to you Bobby , SteveW2 and NoSurprize

Behshad wrote:Congrats to you Bobby , SteveW2 and NoSurprize and GI Jim

Fixed it for you b

Everett wrote:

Behshad wrote:Congrats to you Bobby , SteveW2 and NoSurprize and GI Jim

Fixed it for you b

Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

G.I.Jim wrote:

Everett wrote:

Behshad wrote:Congrats to you Bobby , SteveW2 and NoSurprize and GI Jim

Fixed it for you b

Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

This is fine, just make sure there are rules to go with the gayness, like no BJ's during flights in fighter jets, etc. It's the ejector seat, not ejaculator seat!

BobbyinTN wrote:Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

I actually agree with you on this one.

conversationpc wrote:

BobbyinTN wrote:
I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing

I actually agree with you on this one.

Me too !

BobbyinTN wrote:Thank God it's gone. Congrats to every gay soldier out there. You can now serve your country openly and honestly.

Thanks Obama and democrats and the few republicans who moved us into the 21st Century.

(I hate this laptop I'm having to use, but it's better than nothing)

I agree with this as well

G.I.Jim wrote:[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Rockindeano wrote:

G.I.Jim wrote:

Everett wrote:

Behshad wrote:Congrats to you Bobby , SteveW2 and NoSurprize and GI Jim

Fixed it for you b

Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

You're mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers who because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conswervative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

"Your " mindset , dick breath

I am sorry, I like Jim as much as the next person, but this way of thinking destroys America, This close minded anti this and anti that just sucks all the hope out of the nation. I guess Jim would rather respect a conservative who does NOT sign up to serve his country rather than a homosexual who DOES offer to put his life on the line in order to serve.

I am done commenting on this because the mindset of Jim on this matter makes me sick.

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are.

Though I agree with you on this issue, I've seen FAR MORE anti-gay bigotry on this board from folks on the left than those on the right. It's not even close.

Rockindeano wrote:

G.I.Jim wrote:[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Don't assume all of us "on the right" feel as you say we do. I'm glad to see DADT gone. I think a person's sexual preferences should be irrelevant when it comes to military service. At the same time, I don't think it's right for anyone-straight or gay-to flaunt their sexuality to the point that it interferes with their job-military or otherwise.

Angel wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

G.I.Jim wrote:[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Don't assume all of us "on the right" feel as you say we do. I'm glad to see DADT gone. I think a person's sexual preferences should be irrelevant when it comes to military service. At the same time, I don't think it's right for anyone-straight or gay-to flaunt their sexuality to the point that it interferes with their job-military or otherwise.

You're right Natalie, I shouldn't paint the right with this broad of a brush, but then again, it sure isn't the left opposing this ruling. Ok ok, I will make up a new political genre- how about the military right? You know, those eggheaded sonsofbitches who like nothing but hardcore right wing nutjob military personnel? It's these people who are so frightened by a homosexual soldier that they "can't serve next to them." It's close minded nonsense is what it is. It's goddamned homophobia.

very cool to hear,

at one time people were excluded to serve because of their ethnicity and gender as well.

I am proud of any service man and women,

Thank God for you,

Angel wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

G.I.Jim wrote:[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Don't assume all of us "on the right" feel as you say we do. I'm glad to see DADT gone. I think a person's sexual preferences should be irrelevant when it comes to military service. At the same time, I don't think it's right for anyone-straight or gay-to flaunt their sexuality to the point that it interferes with their job-military or otherwise.

And this is what people " on the left" do not seem to get, DADT assumed people would serve without having to promote their sexual orientation, as the law stands, you can be whatever you want , its really nobody's business what you prefer,
and i agree with that, but thats not good enough, its as if they need some approval that this lifestyle is normal and preferable in american society.

RPM wrote:

Angel wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

G.I.Jim wrote:[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Don't assume all of us "on the right" feel as you say we do. I'm glad to see DADT gone. I think a person's sexual preferences should be irrelevant when it comes to military service. At the same time, I don't think it's right for anyone-straight or gay-to flaunt their sexuality to the point that it interferes with their job-military or otherwise.

And this is what people " on the left" do not seem to get, DADT assumed people would serve without having to promote their sexual orientation, as the law stands, you can be whatever you want , its really nobody's business what you prefer,
and i agree with that, but thats not good enough, its as if they need some approval that this lifestyle is normal and preferable in american society.

I see your point, and some on the left want just that, what you said, "to have their lifestyle championed." I think that is bullshit too. I just want there to be no discrimination against gays. It's as if they want a medal for sucking a big dick or something.

Rockindeano wrote:

G.I.Jim wrote:[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Dude, as someone who once wore the military uniform, how can you possibly be so ignorant to the fact that lives will be lost because of this? I have great, openly gay friends and am not a homophobe, so you can shove that theory right up your ass! Do they allow women in the military to serve on the front lines? No. You know why? Well there are a lot of reasons, but one of them is because if there are relationships going on during conflict, you aren't going to be focused on what the fuck you're supposed to be doing over there. You know what that does? It costs lives!

Not to mention that heterosexual men do not want to shower or share a foxhole with someone who is checking out their package. Would you want to? This is different than someone who just works in an office with others. We're talking about men who trust their lives with each other, shower together, sleep together, etc... for months at a time. The biggest thing our service members have when they're deployed is each other. When you can't trust that the guy next to you isn't going to make the moves on you, it throws trust right out the window.

You know what's going to happen now that this has been signed? Every gay who is in the military is going to come out of the closet, and they're going to cause tension in the ranks. You WILL see some of them acting flamboyantly and it will cause lives. mark my words.

And how the fuck do you turn everything that's said into a Bush debate? For fuck's sake Deano, get over him already!!!

conversationpc wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are.

Though I agree with you on this issue, I've seen FAR MORE anti-gay bigotry on this board from folks on the left than those on the right. It's not even close.

STFU, Dave. I was just starting to like you again.

Really, this is complete bullshit and utter nonsense. There are so many examples to prove you dead fucking wrong on this one that my head is spinning.

Rockindeano wrote:

RPM wrote:

Angel wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

G.I.Jim wrote:[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Don't assume all of us "on the right" feel as you say we do. I'm glad to see DADT gone. I think a person's sexual preferences should be irrelevant when it comes to military service. At the same time, I don't think it's right for anyone-straight or gay-to flaunt their sexuality to the point that it interferes with their job-military or otherwise.

And this is what people " on the left" do not seem to get, DADT assumed people would serve without having to promote their sexual orientation, as the law stands, you can be whatever you want , its really nobody's business what you prefer,
and i agree with that, but thats not good enough, its as if they need some approval that this lifestyle is normal and preferable in american society.

I see your point, and some on the left want just that, what you said, "to have their lifestyle championed." I think that is bullshit too. I just want there to be no discrimination against gays. It's as if they want a medal for sucking a big dick or something.

Agreed. for someone to serve their country is a sacrificial service to all of us who enjoy the benefits, however, there is no need to intertwine service to your country with sexual orientation.

G.I.Jim wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

G.I.Jim wrote:[Blow me! And for the record, I think it's the worst decision they could have made. No offense to you Bobby, but it IS going to cause conflicts, and cost American lives.

Your mindset just flabbergasts me. Why the hate for some fellow soldiers because they are gay? Why does this bother you? I don't get it. An openly gay US citizen wants to proudly serve his/her country, and you on the right are worried. Just how in the fuck is it going to cost American lives? Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are. I'll tell you what costs American lives. Poorly planned wars(Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz)...Lying to the United Nations..Bush Administration...no exit strategy...Bush administration. Look in the fucking mirror when discussing American lives. Just how many have been lost due to the three points I just made? Gee, I bet this new law allowing gays to serve will be right up there with these huh? Too much. Are you a homophobe, Jim? Is it a conservative thing? A Southern thing? Seriously, why the hate against gays?

Dude, as someone who once wore the military uniform, how can you possibly be so ignorant to the fact that lives will be lost because of this? I have great, openly gay friends and am not a homophobe, so you can shove that theory right up your ass! Do they allow women in the military to serve on the front lines? No. You know why? Well there are a lot of reasons, but one of them is because if there are relationships going on during conflict, you aren't going to be focused on what the fuck you're supposed to be doing over there. You know what that does? It costs lives!

Not to mention that heterosexual men do not want to shower or share a foxhole with someone who is checking out their package. Would you want to? This is different than someone who just works in an office with others. We're talking about men who trust their lives with each other, shower together, sleep together, etc... for months at a time. The biggest thing our service members have when they're deployed is each other. When you can't trust that the guy next to you isn't going to make the moves on you, it throws trust right out the window.

You know what's going to happen now that this has been signed? Every gay who is in the military is going to come out of the closet, and they're going to cause tension in the ranks. You WILL see some of them acting flamboyantly and it will cause lives. mark my words.

And how the fuck do you turn everything that's said into a Bush debate? For fuck's sake Deano, get over him already!!!

Like I said, I like you Jim, but this post is the absolute most pathetic I have ever read. You make NO case and your reasons are just far reaching nonsense. You cannot be serious with this are you?

Call up Rush or Hannity and ask them what to say next. This is embarrassing.

I'll let you guys in on a little secret. The only place gay soldiers ever had a problem was in the States. For years, overseas base commanders have been turning the other cheek to this issue as much as they could, unless some base chaplain or one asshole with an axe to grind made a big deal out of it. Things I hadn't really been exposed to in the military (racism, homophobia) were never an ongoing issue for me to have any concerns about with my peers/subordinates until I got stationed in the states. Then it was like moving from the suburbs into a trailer park. All the camaraderie and sense of family I had encountered during my tours in both theaters seemed to have evaporated when I hit the home turf. I fucking hated it and couldn't wait to get back out of country again.

So, for those sayng it won't work, it HAS been working on a smaller scale for quite a while now. If it takes mandatory posting of every backwoods country fuck or puritan to more liberal bases overseas to get them acclimated to the idea, then so be it.
It hasn't decimated the other militaries of the free world that have accepted it and it won't here.

Seven Wishes wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are.

Though I agree with you on this issue, I've seen FAR MORE anti-gay bigotry on this board from folks on the left than those on the right. It's not even close.

STFU, Dave. I was just starting to like you again.

Really, this is complete bullshit and utter nonsense. There are so many examples to prove you dead fucking wrong on this one that my head is spinning.

Really??? Find a few then, and POST THEM, totally anti-gay bigoted statement from a conservative on this board...just a few is all I ask...one that isn't a joke (though that is as demeaning as anything). I can find a TON just from Deano, granted I know he is joking, as do most of us here, but to someone who doesn't know Deano it would appear that he is a homophoic bigot.

Bombs and Bullets don't discriminate... neither should the folks these good people serve...

If an American wants to serve their country as a member of our armed forces, then they should have that right...gay, straight, like to wear womens underwear under their BDU's or whatever then they should be allowed to do so. The logistics of it is where the problems will be, because of the perception that every gay man is some kind of pedophile or has orgies every night and that they are unable to control themselves sexually. Once they figure out the logistics of it, it will work out fine.

One of my closest friends in the Marines was discharged because someone found out he was gay, in fact no one knew he was until they removed him from duty. And you would NEVER have been able to tell from how he acted, looked or what have you. He was a fantastic Marine, and served his country with honor and distinction, until he was outted by some prick who just couldn't handle the fact that gay man was a Marine.

I never felt so ashamed of my country as I did on the day I found out he was to be discharged. It was a disgrace and while we hear about the civil rights of african-americans and the latinos and so on, the anti-gay bias in this country has quietly been ignored for a long time but it won't be any longer.

I am GLAD that DADT is a gonner, it should never have been in the first place.

G.I.Jim wrote:
Not to mention that heterosexual men do not want to shower or share a foxhole with someone who is checking out their package. Would you want to? This is different than someone who just works in an office with others. We're talking about men who trust their lives with each other, shower together, sleep together, etc... for months at a time. The biggest thing our service members have when they're deployed is each other. When you can't trust that the guy next to you isn't going to make the moves on you, it throws trust right out the window.

This is one of the funniest things I've read on here in a long time! I hope it's cleverly disguised satire...Are you a writer for The Onion in your spare time?

RossValoryRocks wrote:

Seven Wishes wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are.

Though I agree with you on this issue, I've seen FAR MORE anti-gay bigotry on this board from folks on the left than those on the right. It's not even close.

STFU, Dave. I was just starting to like you again.

Really, this is complete bullshit and utter nonsense. There are so many examples to prove you dead fucking wrong on this one that my head is spinning.

Really??? Find a few then, and POST THEM, totally anti-gay bigoted statement from a conservative on this board...just a few is all I ask...one that isn't a joke (though that is as demeaning as anything). I can find a TON just from Deano, granted I know he is joking, as do most of us here, but to someone who doesn't know Deano it would appear that he is a homophoic bigot.

Just click on Saint john then "view all posts" LOL, he hates gays!

Rockindeano wrote:

RossValoryRocks wrote:

Seven Wishes wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are.

Though I agree with you on this issue, I've seen FAR MORE anti-gay bigotry on this board from folks on the left than those on the right. It's not even close.

STFU, Dave. I was just starting to like you again.

Really, this is complete bullshit and utter nonsense. There are so many examples to prove you dead fucking wrong on this one that my head is spinning.

Really??? Find a few then, and POST THEM, totally anti-gay bigoted statement from a conservative on this board...just a few is all I ask...one that isn't a joke (though that is as demeaning as anything). I can find a TON just from Deano, granted I know he is joking, as do most of us here, but to someone who doesn't know Deano it would appear that he is a homophoic bigot.

Just click on Saint john then "view all posts" LOL, he hates gays!

I stand corrected...but over all?? Dan is in a class by himself isn't he?

RossValoryRocks wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

RossValoryRocks wrote:

Seven Wishes wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable how close minded you on the right are.

Though I agree with you on this issue, I've seen FAR MORE anti-gay bigotry on this board from folks on the left than those on the right. It's not even close.

STFU, Dave. I was just starting to like you again.

Really, this is complete bullshit and utter nonsense. There are so many examples to prove you dead fucking wrong on this one that my head is spinning.

Really??? Find a few then, and POST THEM, totally anti-gay bigoted statement from a conservative on this board...just a few is all I ask...one that isn't a joke (though that is as demeaning as anything). I can find a TON just from Deano, granted I know he is joking, as do most of us here, but to someone who doesn't know Deano it would appear that he is a homophoic bigot.

Just click on Saint john then "view all posts" LOL, he hates gays!

I stand corrected...but over all?? Dan is in a class by himself isn't he?

Oh for sure. That guy even hates lesbians! And by the way fucker, I am pro gay rights....please don't put me in with the anti gay crowd. I don't believe in ANY discrimination except one.....I believe in the wholeheartedly discrimination of RobbieG.

To be fair though, Dan isn't even a conservative. They are too left for his tastes. That guy is the ultra NEO Conservative!