MR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERte0m3E0ww

I want to see where this thread leads......

Sounds like Perry singing.

Saint John wrote:Sounds like Perry singing.

At least the dude doesn't have a Filipino accent....

And I could have sworn I heard Fuck you, Bitch...go eat another donut! in there somewhere....

Those guys SHOULD be six feet under after that abortion of a cover song.

S2M wrote:And I could have sworn I heard Fuck you, Bitch...go eat another donut! in there somewhere....

I shouldn't laugh at this ... but I'm going to anyway. Lynn and 7 will work this out. Both good people.

conversationpc wrote:Those guys SHOULD be six feet under after that abortion of a cover song.

Abby Normal is back....cool!

Saint John wrote:Sounds like Perry singing.

Oh that's sooooo cold!

conversationpc wrote:Those guys SHOULD be six feet under after that abortion of a cover song.

Ditto! What complete and utter garbage!!!

S2M wrote:

conversationpc wrote:Those guys SHOULD be six feet under after that abortion of a cover song.

Abby Normal is back....cool!

I think it fits my persona best, don't you?

Utter shite, but looking at the live version they seem to be quite popular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THfGUerw ... re=related

S2M wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERte0m3E0ww

I want to see where this thread leads......

I think anyone that listens to vocals like that should also be made to listen to Bieber endlessly for 24hrs straight....

Duncan wrote:Utter shite, but looking at the live version they seem to be quite popular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THfGUerw ... re=related

Christ on a bike! Look at all those fuckers getting into Cookie Monster doing AC/DC. There's hope for me as a frontman yet!

That singer sounds like Bon with a REAL bad case of bronchitis


Best comment... "Nice singing for a zombie."....

slucero wrote:That singer sounds like Bon with a REAL bad case of bronchitis


Best comment... "Nice singing for a zombie."....

You still pissed at me? Sorry I was a prick to you. You can tell me to fuck off again, I deserve it.

Rick wrote:

slucero wrote:That singer sounds like Bon with a REAL bad case of bronchitis


Best comment... "Nice singing for a zombie."....

You still pissed at me? Sorry I was a prick to you. You can tell me to fuck off again, I deserve it.

Nah man we're fine... my perspective on moderation is as one who has done it for a living (HBO, MTV)... and my significant other has been involved with managing online communities since the early 90's.... I'm not sure what yours is... I suspect it's as a user... so I get your (and others) resistance to moderation of any kind... my experience is that it can be done and when done right it actually WORKS.. but most forum owners don't want the expense... or don't believe in it - or both..

I can tell you this.. self-moderation or no moderation will always result in a forum that gets smaller and smaller in the number of regular posters... because those unwilling to "engage" simply remain as lurkers or move on altogether... either way the community does not "grow", it actually shrinks...

anyhoo.. we're good...

slucero wrote:

Rick wrote:

slucero wrote:That singer sounds like Bon with a REAL bad case of bronchitis


Best comment... "Nice singing for a zombie."....

You still pissed at me? Sorry I was a prick to you. You can tell me to fuck off again, I deserve it.

Nah man we're fine... my perspective on moderation is as one who has done it for a living (HBO, MTV)... and my significant other has been involved with managing online communities since the early 90's.... I'm not sure what yours is... I suspect it's as a user... so I get your (and others) resistance to moderation of any kind... my experience is that it can be done and when done right it actually WORKS.. but most forum owners don't want the expense... or don't believe in it - or both..

I can tell you this.. self-moderation or no moderation will always result in a forum that gets smaller and smaller in the number of regular posters... because those unwilling to "engage" simply remain as lurkers or move on altogether... either way the community does not "grow", it actually shrinks...

anyhoo.. we're good...

You bet, but I couldn't disagree more. This site is moderated perfectly, if you ask me. I've been on countless message boards, including this one. And if my memory serves correctly, I think you have been here as long or longer than me. The membership here hasn't decreased, by any means. I think Andrew's approach of letting shit fly is a good one. He comes in when things get out of order, and takes measures. You probably can't do that with HBO, but this isn't that. So I can see where you would want a stricter moderation. But let me give you one example, and I know this is true. When Deano is here, this place thrives. I don't think I have to say any more.

Andrew wrote:Christ on a bike!

This is one of the funniest I have ever read. Ever!

S2M wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERte0m3E0ww

I want to see where this thread leads......

A knock in the head is where it should lead ...consider it done!!

Rick wrote:

slucero wrote:

Rick wrote:

slucero wrote:That singer sounds like Bon with a REAL bad case of bronchitis


Best comment... "Nice singing for a zombie."....

You still pissed at me? Sorry I was a prick to you. You can tell me to fuck off again, I deserve it.

Nah man we're fine... my perspective on moderation is as one who has done it for a living (HBO, MTV)... and my significant other has been involved with managing online communities since the early 90's.... I'm not sure what yours is... I suspect it's as a user... so I get your (and others) resistance to moderation of any kind... my experience is that it can be done and when done right it actually WORKS.. but most forum owners don't want the expense... or don't believe in it - or both..

I can tell you this.. self-moderation or no moderation will always result in a forum that gets smaller and smaller in the number of regular posters... because those unwilling to "engage" simply remain as lurkers or move on altogether... either way the community does not "grow", it actually shrinks...

anyhoo.. we're good...

You bet, but I couldn't disagree more. This site is moderated perfectly, if you ask me. I've been on countless message boards, including this one. And if my memory serves correctly, I think you have been here as long or longer than me. The membership here hasn't decreased, by any means. I think Andrew's approach of letting shit fly is a good one. He comes in when things get out of order, and takes measures. You probably can't do that with HBO, but this isn't that. So I can see where you would want a stricter moderation. But let me give you one example, and I know this is true. When Deano is here, this place thrives. I don't think I have to say any more.

Sure when Deano is here it appears to thrive... he stirs up a lot of shit.. and the same, regular, posters all join in....

There are a lot of folks who've simply left... or don't post at all because they see the free-for-all, off-topic nature of the posting... which, when not on topic is most likely being directed AT a poster.. instead of a topic... that is by definition personally attacking someone...

I do recall some threads where folks ask... "where the hell is everyone?".... that does not occur on boards where there is lots of participation.

Forums do not grow because of the "regulars"... they grow when new members join and more importantly, participate in on-topic discussion... If lurkers do not join/participate it is because they perceive posting to be off-topic and attacking... we then have a situation where the forum will have to grow "in spite" of the regulars... a situation no forum owner really wants IMHO.

After all, we're here to talk about music not call each other names right? We can all agree to disagree, and I'm sure we can do it civilly too, if we choose to.

In fact, we've just done that.


Steve

My comment on moderation - if I see something amiss, I'll deal with it. But I won't waste my edntire day breaking up 5 minute bitch-fights between regulars on here - cause they should know better - and it never lasts.

As for the wider lurking audience - they simply have to jump in and sink or swim. Take a bit of crap and give it back. But at the same time, I won't let anyone bully new users just so they can proove they have a bigger (ie smaller) dick.

And for the last 2 years, this forum is actually closed to new users, unless they contact me or T-Bone direct, as there are about 200 spambots per day that sign up and no one has time to kill all of those once they get into the system.

Plus the fact some users were signing up 3 times a day under different names

A future board upgrade should help that though.

Andrew wrote:My comment on moderation - if I see something amiss, I'll deal with it. But I won't waste my edntire day breaking up 5 minute bitch-fights between regulars on here - cause they should know better - and it never lasts.

As for the wider lurking audience - they simply have to jump in and sink or swim. Take a bit of crap and give it back. But at the same time, I won't let anyone bully new users just so they can proove they have a bigger (ie smaller) dick.

And for the last 2 years, this forum is actually closed to new users, unless they contact me or T-Bone direct, as there are about 200 spambots per day that sign up and no one has time to kill all of those once they get into the system.

Plus the fact some users were signing up 3 times a day under different names

A future board upgrade should help that though.

Drew, how seamless is the change over going to be for established members?

S2M wrote:

Andrew wrote:My comment on moderation - if I see something amiss, I'll deal with it. But I won't waste my edntire day breaking up 5 minute bitch-fights between regulars on here - cause they should know better - and it never lasts.

As for the wider lurking audience - they simply have to jump in and sink or swim. Take a bit of crap and give it back. But at the same time, I won't let anyone bully new users just so they can proove they have a bigger (ie smaller) dick.

And for the last 2 years, this forum is actually closed to new users, unless they contact me or T-Bone direct, as there are about 200 spambots per day that sign up and no one has time to kill all of those once they get into the system.

Plus the fact some users were signing up 3 times a day under different names

A future board upgrade should help that though.

Drew, how seamless is the change over going to be for established members?

Not seamless at all

In fact, it will be an all-new board system, starting from scratch. Which is why this one will remain also

Wow...I thought it was a complete switch over....

Andrew wrote:

S2M wrote:

Andrew wrote:My comment on moderation - if I see something amiss, I'll deal with it. But I won't waste my edntire day breaking up 5 minute bitch-fights between regulars on here - cause they should know better - and it never lasts.

As for the wider lurking audience - they simply have to jump in and sink or swim. Take a bit of crap and give it back. But at the same time, I won't let anyone bully new users just so they can proove they have a bigger (ie smaller) dick.

And for the last 2 years, this forum is actually closed to new users, unless they contact me or T-Bone direct, as there are about 200 spambots per day that sign up and no one has time to kill all of those once they get into the system.

Plus the fact some users were signing up 3 times a day under different names

A future board upgrade should help that though.

Drew, how seamless is the change over going to be for established members?

Not seamless at all

In fact, it will be an all-new board system, starting from scratch. Which is why this one will remain also

So will some of us be banished to this site if we are bad there? We will be the reject board here? Or is the parallel board thing temporary?

StevePerryHair wrote:So will some of us be banished to this site if we are bad there? We will be the reject board here? Or is the parallel board thing temporary?

Lynn, are you sure this is what you mean or are you gonna try to say that you meant something different tomorrow? Natalie will call you on this so you better be sure!:lol:

Saint John wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:So will some of us be banished to this site if we are bad there? We will be the reject board here? Or is the parallel board thing temporary?

Lynn, are you sure this is what you mean or are you gonna try to say that you meant something different tomorrow? Natalie will call you on this so you better be sure!:lol:

I don't know.... I thought I knew what I meant... but now I'm all confused.. maybe I meant something different. Did I insult you? Do I know you enough that it's okay?

Will this board be locked, available for researching the older postings only or will this be the R-rated board and the newer one a plokker friendly zone?

Don wrote:Will this board be locked, available for researching the older postings only or will this be the R-rated board and the newer one a plokker friendly zone?

Are you saying we aren't plokker friendly?

StevePerryHair wrote:

Saint John wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:So will some of us be banished to this site if we are bad there? We will be the reject board here? Or is the parallel board thing temporary?

Lynn, are you sure this is what you mean or are you gonna try to say that you meant something different tomorrow? Natalie will call you on this so you better be sure!:lol:

I don't know.... I thought I knew what I meant... but now I'm all confused.. maybe I meant something different. Did I insult you? Do I know you enough that it's okay?

StevePerryHair wrote:

Don wrote:Will this board be locked, available for researching the older postings only or will this be the R-rated board and the newer one a plokker friendly zone?

Are you saying we aren't plokker friendly?

For the experienced plokkers that are battle hardened, it's not an issue but we had a lot that came in and went back out very quickly (or at least went into lurker mode). I'm asking if the new place be is to be like a sanctuary for them, loons and others, (not meaning to single out a certain group) with all the hard core action relegated to this side of the yard .