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Who is your fave drummer?

Jonas Ekdal , Evergrey !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1WI7tPRh6M

Steve Smith, since Buddy Rich wasn't on the list.

Porcaro. Long after his death, his grooves still impress.

Steve Smith

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Porcaro. Long after his death, his grooves still impress.

Bingo. Nothing like him.

parfait wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Porcaro. Long after his death, his grooves still impress.

Bingo. Nothing like him.

No offense, but I listen to ToTo, and I find nothing special. Same with Luke. Not exactly a guitar driven band. Maybe his solo stuff, but wow. I couldn't pick Porcaro or Lukather out in a song if my life depended on it....

"No offense, but I listen to ToTo, and I find nothing special."


Of course you don't.

JSS Rocks! wrote:"No offense, but I listen to ToTo, and I find nothing special."


Of course you don't.

Did you expect anything different from Mr Negative

1. Steve Smith
2. Deen Castronovo

S2M wrote:

parfait wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Porcaro. Long after his death, his grooves still impress.

Bingo. Nothing like him.

No offense, but I listen to ToTo, and I find nothing special. Same with Luke. Not exactly a guitar driven band. Maybe his solo stuff, but wow. I couldn't pick Porcaro or Lukather out in a song if my life depended on it....

Lukather is arguably a better guitar player than Neal, though I prefer Neal's tone. Now, if you can't hear the difference between Castronovo or Porcaro for example, then there's something wrong with you. Jeff Porcaro is unique.

Neil Peart is my fave

Its a three way tie between Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy and Steve Smith.

Even though he considers Journey his apprenticeship years, Smitty will always be my fav!!!
Never enjoyed watching/hearing someone develop more!!!

parfait wrote:

S2M wrote:

parfait wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Porcaro. Long after his death, his grooves still impress.

Bingo. Nothing like him.

No offense, but I listen to ToTo, and I find nothing special. Same with Luke. Not exactly a guitar driven band. Maybe his solo stuff, but wow. I couldn't pick Porcaro or Lukather out in a song if my life depended on it....

Lukather is arguably a better guitar player than Neal, though I prefer Neal's tone. Now, if you can't hear the difference between Castronovo or Porcaro for example, then there's something wrong with you. Jeff Porcaro is unique.

Like I stated in another thread, this isn't a knock on Lukather, just like it wasn't a knock on Schon. I just don't hear anything special in the music from the band. Maybe his solo stuff is different. I assume it is....but the fact remains that both, Neal in particular, are constrained in their bands. Neal's talent is wasted in Journey. He may 'rock out' on Eclipse, but it's nothing innovative. he lost that a long time ago. In fact, he is most creative on his solo projects.

Admittedly, I'm not an expect on Luke, Porcaro...etc. but from what *I* have heard, there doesn't seem to be anything that sticks out for me. Nothing negative there, Behshad....

On this list..John Bonham blows them all out of the water. Followed by Peart. Followed by Tommy Lee.

Steve Smith

steveo777 wrote:1. Steve Smith
2. Deen Castronovo

Another huge surprise here

Bonham and then Smith

IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

S2M wrote:IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

I cant believe Im gonna agree with you on this one. No surprise here to see this Journey-influenced board picking Journey members as favorite musicans, but when you look at the big picture , theyre good as a BAND , but each and every one of the band members in Journey, as individual musicans, are average AT BEST !

I don't have a favorite drummer, but from what I've seen live, I was really surprised at what a strong and good drummer Chad Smith is. ( Chili Peppers/chickenfoot) Really enjoyed him. Saw Jason Bonham with Foreigner, and thought he was very good too. I know there are better drummers out there. I just haven't seen them yet

S2M wrote:IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

That's something to think about you make a good point.

S2M wrote:IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

Well the word "favorite" is a broad term. Something or someone can become a favorite for reasons other than talent If you want opinions based on pure talent, then a poll asking for "best drummer or guitarist" should be started. 2 different things

Behshad wrote:

S2M wrote:IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

I cant believe Im gonna agree with you on this one. No surprise here to see this Journey-influenced board picking Journey members as favorite musicans, but when you look at the big picture , theyre good as a BAND , but each and every one of the band members in Journey, as individual musicans, are average AT BEST !

Agree!! But at least Smitty will show up
in the top 25 on most lists outside of this board ...he is well respected in the tom~tom world ...Neal will show up in the top
100 on most lists as does Jon Cain, Gregg ...even Aynsley ...can't account for the rest!!

StevePerryHair wrote:

S2M wrote:IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

Well the word "favorite" is a broad term. Something or someone can become a favorite for reasons other than talent If you want opinions based on pure talent, then a poll asking for "best drummer or guitarist" should be started. 2 different things

I disagree....when a list is presented, asking you to pick a favorite 'insert instrument here' - it implies musical talent. it's not asking for any other reason. Women tend to make choices based on looks/hotness. Or popularity.

S2M wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:

S2M wrote:IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

Well the word "favorite" is a broad term. Something or someone can become a favorite for reasons other than talent If you want opinions based on pure talent, then a poll asking for "best drummer or guitarist" should be started. 2 different things

I disagree....when a list is presented, asking you to pick a favorite 'insert instrument here' - it implies musical talent. it's not asking for any other reason. Women tend to make choices based on looks/hotness. Or popularity.

I don't even mean just looks. It can be based on "entertainment" value too. Some are very entertaining, and could be a favorite. But still not on a top 10 list of best ever. Favorite doesn't have to be best. There shouldn't be a list with that question.

StevePerryHair wrote:

S2M wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:

S2M wrote:IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

Well the word "favorite" is a broad term. Something or someone can become a favorite for reasons other than talent If you want opinions based on pure talent, then a poll asking for "best drummer or guitarist" should be started. 2 different things

I disagree....when a list is presented, asking you to pick a favorite 'insert instrument here' - it implies musical talent. it's not asking for any other reason. Women tend to make choices based on looks/hotness. Or popularity.

I don't even mean just looks. It can be based on "entertainment" value too. Some are very entertaining, and could be a favorite. But still not on a top 10 list of best ever. Favorite doesn't have to be best. There shouldn't be a list with that question.

I don't care HOW entertaining a musician is...if he/she isn't talented, he/she ain't gonna be a favorite. Example: David Bryan. Guy could be doing handstands on the keyboards while playing Runaway - and i'd just shake my head and laugh....

S2M wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:

S2M wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:

S2M wrote:IMHO, and aren't you glad I freely give it all the time, I don't know how a drummer can be a favorite if the drums aren't a HEAVILY featured instrument in said band. A drummer who happens to be in your favorite band doesn't mean it has to be your favorite drummer. Or bassist, in the case of Ross. I think every rock bassist is better than Ross. But mark my words, he's someone's favorite JUST because he's in Journey....

Well the word "favorite" is a broad term. Something or someone can become a favorite for reasons other than talent If you want opinions based on pure talent, then a poll asking for "best drummer or guitarist" should be started. 2 different things

I disagree....when a list is presented, asking you to pick a favorite 'insert instrument here' - it implies musical talent. it's not asking for any other reason. Women tend to make choices based on looks/hotness. Or popularity.

I don't even mean just looks. It can be based on "entertainment" value too. Some are very entertaining, and could be a favorite. But still not on a top 10 list of best ever. Favorite doesn't have to be best. There shouldn't be a list with that question.

I don't care HOW entertaining a musician is...if he/she isn't talented, he/she ain't gonna be a favorite. Example: David Bryan. Guy could be doing handstands on the keyboards while playing Runaway - and i'd just shake my head and laugh....

That's YOU and how YOU define the word favorite. I'm just pointing out it's a broad word, and some will not define it the way you are.

Catfight!