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Not much pisses me off, however, the forums being a huge clusterfuck is one of them. There is a reason the forums are divided into forums for various artists and other subject matters, ie., Styx, Journey, Steve Perry, JSS, Toto, etc. WTF is with people dumping, for example, a Bob Seger thread in the Journey forum or a Journey thread in the Styx forum, as examples? I'd hate to come over to some people's houses, as I'll bet they are equally as disorganized clutterfucks. Can't some of you people put things in their proper places. Jeebus, this ain't kindergarten! My damn sock drawer is way more organized than some of ya'all's lives!

What's your rant for today? (I fully understand that the first person, eg., me, is probably the second poster's rant)

Because people talk in the threads that the most people actually READ. Get over it.

You're an ass ...there's not a loon on the planet that has
an ass as big as the ass you are ...Your Journey forum
isn't plokkerville and it certainly isn't sacred ...I'm personally
inviting you to SJ's church so I can kick your ass ...course,
I'll be leaving following the food fight at the entrance!!

Michigan Girl wrote:You're an ass ...there's not a loon on the planet that has
an ass as big as the ass you are ...Your Journey forum
isn't plokkerville and it certainly isn't sacred ...I'm personally
inviting you to SJ's church so I can kick your ass ...course,
I'll be leaving following the food fight at the entrance!!

That was the best Thursday rant EVER!!

Michigan Girl wrote:You're an ass ...there's not a loon on the planet that has
an ass as big as the ass you are ...Your Journey forum
isn't plokkerville and it certainly isn't sacred ...I'm personally
inviting you to SJ's church so I can kick your ass ...course,


I'll be leaving following the food fight at the entrance!!

That was super cool.

If that's the most major thing you can find to rant about, steveo, then you have it pretty good. It's just a dang message board. Calm thyself.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:If that's the most major thing you can find to rant about, steveo, then you have it pretty good. It's just a dang message board. Calm thyself.

I'm F.I.N.E.......really! I can handle it, just a bit bored today. muwahahaha #winning!

It's pretty simple. When Revelation came out, there was a lot of excitement about Arnel, the whole drama with the JSS termination and questions galore about the rationality of re-recording the greatest hits, what really happened with Augeri and yada, yada, yada..This year, with the hype of what was to come with Eclipse, everybody got ready to spill there load but after the first few tracks hit the air, all of a sudden for a lot of people, the woody died.
There were comments every few minutes leading up the release of Revelation. With this album and the change of direction musically, no more drama about Arnel and his life story, the overexposure of DSB the last 12 months and a lot of members no longer here the Journey forum, THE PLACE TO BE from years past seems to have slipped a gear. Sometimes, hours pass before someone even makes a post in the forum now.
Because of that stagnation, I personally don't see any problems with playing six degrees of Journey as it at least helps to generate some traffic until the album finally comes out.

You need some Midol It's not THAT big of a deal to rant over Little estrogen spike today?

The cost of higher education really pisses me off. Five years at Penn State put me $60,000+ in debt. Thanks to the shitty economy, the only work I could find was a low paying factory job. After 2.5 years of no interviews I went back to school for another degree. When I finish this degree in the fall I'll be over $80,000 in debt. With that kind of student loan debt I'll need $15-20 per hour minimum to keep my head above water and unfortunately I don't see that happening right after graduation. What's worse, I'm 27, flat broke (had to put all my loans on deferment) and I'm still stuck living at home ( I hate not being able to afford a place of my own.




That's enough of me, I'll hand the soap box over to someone else...

ebake02 wrote:The cost of higher education really pisses me off. Five years at Penn State put me $60,000+ in debt. Thanks to the shitty economy, the only work I could find was a low paying factory job. After 2.5 years of no interviews I went back to school for another degree. When I finish this degree in the fall I'll be over $80,000 in debt. With that kind of student loan debt I'll need $15-20 per hour minimum to keep my head above water and unfortunately I don't see that happening right after graduation. What's worse, I'm 27, flat broke (had to put all my loans on deferment) and I'm still stuck living at home ( I hate not being able to afford a place of my own.

You're just a fucking mess, aren't you?

ebake02 wrote:The cost of higher education really pisses me off. Five years at Penn State put me $60,000+ in debt. Thanks to the shitty economy, the only work I could find was a low paying factory job. After 2.5 years of no interviews I went back to school for another degree. When I finish this degree in the fall I'll be over $80,000 in debt. With that kind of student loan debt I'll need $15-20 per hour minimum to keep my head above water and unfortunately I don't see that happening right after graduation. What's worse, I'm 27, flat broke (had to put all my loans on deferment) and I'm still stuck living at home ( I hate not being able to afford a place of my own.




That's enough of me, I'll hand the soap box over to someone else...

Look at the bright side, you'll
be in a trailer park before you know it enjoying Bob Seger and Larry the Cable guy (you may even be a cable man yourself) and if your reaaaaallly lucky, you'll be doing all that south of the mason~dixon line ...call me when you get here, I'll take you out for a bud~light!!

Michigan Girl wrote:

ebake02 wrote:The cost of higher education really pisses me off. Five years at Penn State put me $60,000+ in debt. Thanks to the shitty economy, the only work I could find was a low paying factory job. After 2.5 years of no interviews I went back to school for another degree. When I finish this degree in the fall I'll be over $80,000 in debt. With that kind of student loan debt I'll need $15-20 per hour minimum to keep my head above water and unfortunately I don't see that happening right after graduation. What's worse, I'm 27, flat broke (had to put all my loans on deferment) and I'm still stuck living at home ( I hate not being able to afford a place of my own.




That's enough of me, I'll hand the soap box over to someone else...

Look at the bright side, you'll
be in a trailer park before you know it enjoying Bob Seger and Larry the Cable guy (you may even be a cable man yourself) and if your reaaaaallly lucky, you'll be doing all that south of the mason~dixon line ...call me when you get here, I'll take you out for a bud~light!!

It'll be a cold day in hell before you see me living in a trailer park.

Don wrote:

ebake02 wrote:The cost of higher education really pisses me off. Five years at Penn State put me $60,000+ in debt. Thanks to the shitty economy, the only work I could find was a low paying factory job. After 2.5 years of no interviews I went back to school for another degree. When I finish this degree in the fall I'll be over $80,000 in debt. With that kind of student loan debt I'll need $15-20 per hour minimum to keep my head above water and unfortunately I don't see that happening right after graduation. What's worse, I'm 27, flat broke (had to put all my loans on deferment) and I'm still stuck living at home ( I hate not being able to afford a place of my own.

You're just a fucking mess, aren't you?

Those numbers aren't counting the shit load of money I'll have to pay in interest.

Good news, the Funeral parks ain't going out of business soon. Forest Lawn starts out its Customer Service department at 14 bucks an hour, providing you can type 45 words a minute.
There's a lot of places hiring, you just have to be willing to settle for jobs that you might not do if you had a choice. With the kind of debt you've incurred, even McDonald's should be on your list as far as employment opportunities.

In all seriousness, ebake, I feel for you!! I know this is hard to believe
right now, but things will improve ...probably not under our current
leadership, however. If you had it to do over again, would you change
the fact that you spent that money on a wonderful education from
a very reputable institution?!? Probably not; it's going to pay off!!
I know we've been saying this a lot, but patience and ...you may have
to move ...

Don wrote:Good news, the Funeral parks ain't going out of business soon. Forest Lawn starts out its Customer Service department at 14 bucks an hour, providing you can type 45 words a minute.
There's a lot of places hiring, you just have to be willing to settle for jobs that you might not do if you had a choice. With the kind of debt you've incurred, even McDonald's should on your list as far as employment opportunities.

McDonalds is hiring 50,000 employees. April 19th is Burger Flipper Hiring Day. All you need is a masters degree and no gun permit. (They don't want you to go ballastic from working min wage with a darn near PHD....)

I think congress should seriously think about wiping out all student loan debt that is over 10 years old. And also wiping out other kinds of debt. Folks are drowning in it...And to make it fair, also wipe out business debt, the consumer gets a clean slate, and the business gets one too....then we put in reform, start from scratch....and everybody gets their mulligan....

And make it clear from the get go that this is a ONCE in a lifetime deal....you rack up debt after that - you are on your own.

Student Loans
Credit Card
Mortgage debt(up to a certain amount)


Leave child support alone. Kids need support.

And do away with Welfare. Allow the payment of childcare while the mother goes to job-training. Welfare pays rent(no condos here!) while in school. Once mother passes, only keep paying for childcare....rent stops, food stamps stop....and Welfare recipient is on her own. Wean these leech motherfuckers off the system.

Folks need a break. I'm not talking about more handouts, more social programs...I'm talking clean slates, and job-training. Just because there are few jobs out there...doesn't mean these people shouldn't have the option of going to school in the interim.....

We already have that^^^ it's called bankruptcy ...chapter 7, student loans
can even be wiped out if proven they would be difficult to repay~ even
w/^^^^the Chap 7 ...I see this every day and people do this more than once in
their lifetimes ...

ebake02 wrote:

Don wrote:

ebake02 wrote:The cost of higher education really pisses me off. Five years at Penn State put me $60,000+ in debt. Thanks to the shitty economy, the only work I could find was a low paying factory job. After 2.5 years of no interviews I went back to school for another degree. When I finish this degree in the fall I'll be over $80,000 in debt. With that kind of student loan debt I'll need $15-20 per hour minimum to keep my head above water and unfortunately I don't see that happening right after graduation. What's worse, I'm 27, flat broke (had to put all my loans on deferment) and I'm still stuck living at home ( I hate not being able to afford a place of my own.

You're just a fucking mess, aren't you?

Those numbers aren't counting the shit load of money I'll have to pay in interest.

Hmm....you're scaring me!! I love my kids, and I hope they can all go to college, and get decent jobs....but I'm not prepared to have them living with me at 27!!! I know this is very common these days though. Hope things turn around and you find something!

S2M wrote:I think congress should seriously think about wiping out all student loan debt that is over 10 years old. Folks are drowning in it.....

Amen!!! Perfect example is one of my student loans I took out this year: $8,500 principle @ 12% for 15 years; The final payoff balance.......$36,000!!!!

StevePerryHair wrote:

ebake02 wrote:

Don wrote:

ebake02 wrote:The cost of higher education really pisses me off. Five years at Penn State put me $60,000+ in debt. Thanks to the shitty economy, the only work I could find was a low paying factory job. After 2.5 years of no interviews I went back to school for another degree. When I finish this degree in the fall I'll be over $80,000 in debt. With that kind of student loan debt I'll need $15-20 per hour minimum to keep my head above water and unfortunately I don't see that happening right after graduation. What's worse, I'm 27, flat broke (had to put all my loans on deferment) and I'm still stuck living at home ( I hate not being able to afford a place of my own.

You're just a fucking mess, aren't you?

Those numbers aren't counting the shit load of money I'll have to pay in interest.

Hmm....you're scaring me!! I love my kids, and I hope they can all go to college, and get decent jobs....but I'm not prepared to have them living with me at 27!!! I know this is very common these days though. Hope things turn around and you find something!

Living at home at this point was my plan, nothing against my parents but I hate it there. Not having my own place is driving my CRAZY.

Does anyone like this song from Van Halen's Greatest Hits album?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HHQ11HOZwM

steveo777 wrote:Not much pisses me off, however, the forums being a huge clusterfuck is one of them. There is a reason the forums are divided into forums for various artists and other subject matters, ie., Styx, Journey, Steve Perry, JSS, Toto, etc. WTF is with people dumping, for example, a Bob Seger thread in the Journey forum or a Journey thread in the Styx forum, as examples? I'd hate to come over to some people's houses, as I'll bet they are equally as disorganized clutterfucks. Can't some of you people put things in their proper places. Jeebus, this ain't kindergarten! My damn sock drawer is way more organized than some of ya'all's lives!

What's your rant for today? (I fully understand that the first person, eg., me, is probably the second poster's rant)

You would hate my art room! OCD much? LOL! Do you press your jockey shorts too?

I like Emily Latella's rants from SNL!

What's this I hear about Porto Rico wanting to be made a steak?

What's all this fuss over Endangered Feces?



Sorry......... My 80's retro memory is having hot flashes again.

S2M wrote:I think congress should seriously think about wiping out all student loan debt that is over 10 years old. And also wiping out other kinds of debt. Folks are drowning in it...And to make it fair, also wipe out business debt, the consumer gets a clean slate, and the business gets one too....then we put in reform, start from scratch....and everybody gets their mulligan....

And make it clear from the get go that this is a ONCE in a lifetime deal....you rack up debt after that - you are on your own.

Student Loans
Credit Card
Mortgage debt(up to a certain amount)


Leave child support alone. Kids need support.

And do away with Welfare. Allow the payment of childcare while the mother goes to job-training. Welfare pays rent(no condos here!) while in school. Once mother passes, only keep paying for childcare....rent stops, food stamps stop....and Welfare recipient is on her own. Wean these leech motherfuckers off the system.

Folks need a break. I'm not talking about more handouts, more social programs...I'm talking clean slates, and job-training. Just because there are few jobs out there...doesn't mean these people shouldn't have the option of going to school in the interim.....

Wipe out debt, then people got a bigger problem. Apparently the IRS looks at forgiven debt as income. Now that's fucked up!

Hmm, I'm sympathetic to student loans for sure as they can be crippling, and many schools are indeed getting way too expensive. It's at least gonna be another 20 years, probably closer to 25 before I'm thinking about sending a kid to college, and I shudder to think that a mere state school might cost over $30K a year by then (I don't know the exact rate the tuition rates go up and don't feel like doing the math... could be more than this). On the other hand, I have no student loan debt because I worked my ass off athletically and academically and got scholarships to undergrad and grad school.

That being said, I was playing college athletics and STILL could have finished school in three years with honors if I wanted to (but didn't so I could play out my sport for four years). That's the first medicine people need to take for their student loans - get out as quickly as you can. Don't fuck around taking 10-12 credits a semester and don't fail classes. There's simply no excuse for taking longer than four years to finish a standard undergrad degree unless it's one of the ones that ALWAYS takes that long (Engineering, nowadays Accounting, a few others...). If you sit there and take five+ years to finish a liberal arts degree like philosophy or political science, I really have no sympathy for the extra debt you accrue. Even if you can only be a part-time student for whatever reason, go through the summer and at least assume the debt in a shorter window of time so you can get started on paying it back earlier.

Moreover, there are a LOT of scholarships that you can apply for for a variety of reasons and qualifications even after you've been in college for a year or two. Even if you didn't achieve enough in high school academically or athletically to get a scholarship out of the gate, there are so many scholarships out there that people simply don't have the initiative to look for and work for (e.g., by writing the essay or doing the requirements).

Finally, there's other ways to save if going to college is really going to pinch every penny you've got, such as doing two years at a community college and transferring over for the last two, or seeking out a "value" undergrad institution. Most states I've been to have one state school that is substantially cheaper than even the other state schools, and even taking FULL loans out for schools like that wouldn't cripple you.

My kids works AND gets financial aid (not loans that need to be paid back). This isn't 1990, graduating from a small college is just as good as going to a well known institution these days. There is no need to bury yourself in debt just to have a big name school on your diploma.

It doesn't matter how quick you graduate when employers won't hire someone straight out of college. If I had a dime for every time an employer turned me down because I have no experience I wouldn't need to work anymore. Right now, employers want someone with 5-10 years experience who can jump right in the position with no downtime for on-the-job training. It's cheaper that way.

I got the prepaid thing for both of my kids once they were born and am so glad. I can't imagine trying to get them through college now with no plan, let alone when they are old enough to attend, which is 8-9 years away still for my oldest kid, lol. Student loans are one thing IMO that should be interest free as long as payments are being made, or at least very low interest. It is crap for people to have the same burden for something that is at least WORTH the loan, as people who spend ridiculous amounts of money loaned to them for nothing but fun stuff (not necessary stuff) and then bitch they are so far in debt.