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Deb wrote:Agree, disagree? How many have you heard of?
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... 61030/5#!2
Deb wrote:Agree, disagree? How many have you heard of?
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... 61030/5#!2
steveo777 wrote:Deb wrote:Agree, disagree? How many have you heard of?
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... 61030/5#!2
You gotta be fucking kidding me! Those guys, with two exceptions can all kiss Neal Schon's ball sack.
Who printed this garbage.....the rolling stone?![]()
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S2M wrote:Michael Angelo Batio
Rain Forest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiT6qtM09tI&feature=related
Like a dude said in the comments. If I had a million dollars for every note this guy missed, I'd be broke. Cleanest player ever. Sorry.
steveo777 wrote:Deb wrote:Agree, disagree? How many have you heard of?
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... 61030/5#!2
You gotta be fucking kidding me! Those guys, with two exceptions can all kiss Neal Schon's ball sack.
Who printed this garbage.....the rolling stone?![]()
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Rick wrote:S2M wrote:Michael Angelo Batio
Rain Forest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiT6qtM09tI&feature=related
Like a dude said in the comments. If I had a million dollars for every note this guy missed, I'd be broke. Cleanest player ever. Sorry.
It says he taught Tom Morello, and that dude is a fucking monster.
Behshad wrote:steveo777 wrote:Deb wrote:Agree, disagree? How many have you heard of?
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... 61030/5#!2
You gotta be fucking kidding me! Those guys, with two exceptions can all kiss Neal Schon's ball sack.
Who printed this garbage.....the rolling stone?![]()
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Dude , when it comes to shredding , there's about 10000 guitar players out there that are way better than Neal @ SHREDDING ! Just cause you like his music it doesn't make him a great shredderbesides why would you want anyone else kissing Neals sack , you're doing a great job at it on your own
The best shredders in my list would be ( in no particular order ) : Vai , Norum , Malmsteen , Satriani , Batio , Gilbert , McAlpine and Slash .
Rick wrote:Behshad wrote:steveo777 wrote:Deb wrote:Agree, disagree? How many have you heard of?
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... 61030/5#!2
You gotta be fucking kidding me! Those guys, with two exceptions can all kiss Neal Schon's ball sack.
Who printed this garbage.....the rolling stone?![]()
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Dude , when it comes to shredding , there's about 10000 guitar players out there that are way better than Neal @ SHREDDING ! Just cause you like his music it doesn't make him a great shredderbesides why would you want anyone else kissing Neals sack , you're doing a great job at it on your own
The best shredders in my list would be ( in no particular order ) : Vai , Norum , Malmsteen , Satriani , Batio , Gilbert , McAlpine and Slash .
Agreed. Neal is no shredder. His middle and ring finger tend to be married, which reduces his shredding capacity to very small. It does, however, like a lot of guitarists that marry those two fingers, gives him the ability to bend strings farther, which makes him and them better at melodic songs.
Rick wrote:Agreed. Neal is no shredder. His middle and ring finger tend to be married, which reduces his shredding capacity to very small. It does, however, like a lot of guitarists that marry those two fingers, gives him the ability to bend strings farther, which makes him and them better at melodic songs.
Behshad wrote:steveo777 wrote:Deb wrote:Agree, disagree? How many have you heard of?
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... 61030/5#!2
You gotta be fucking kidding me! Those guys, with two exceptions can all kiss Neal Schon's ball sack.
Who printed this garbage.....the rolling stone?![]()
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Dude , when it comes to shredding , there's about 10000 guitar players out there that are way better than Neal @ SHREDDING ! Just cause you like his music it doesn't make him a great shredderbesides why would you want anyone else kissing Neals sack , you're doing a great job at it on your own
The best shredders in my list would be ( in no particular order ) : Vai , Norum , Malmsteen , Satriani , Batio , Gilbert , McAlpine and Slash .
conversationpc wrote:Rick wrote:Agreed. Neal is no shredder. His middle and ring finger tend to be married, which reduces his shredding capacity to very small. It does, however, like a lot of guitarists that marry those two fingers, gives him the ability to bend strings farther, which makes him and them better at melodic songs.
I'm not an expert player but played long enough to know that bending a string further doesn't make anyone a better player. Most string bends are done with the index, middle, and ring fingers together anyway and it also depends on what gauge strings you play. SRV, for instance, used very big strings compared to most players. I tended to use bigger than average strings as well, something like .010-.048, if I remember correctly, so it did make that aspect a little more difficult but the tone was a little better as well, in my opinion.
San Diego Gary wrote:Ok, this is just my opinion, but even though I KNOW there are guys better than Neal (and I think he shreds too much), there's just so much about his STYLE to love. And in my mind, he has the best vibrato I've ever heard. Never jerky or shaky, just silky smooth.
slucero wrote:conversationpc wrote:Rick wrote:Agreed. Neal is no shredder. His middle and ring finger tend to be married, which reduces his shredding capacity to very small. It does, however, like a lot of guitarists that marry those two fingers, gives him the ability to bend strings farther, which makes him and them better at melodic songs.
I'm not an expert player but played long enough to know that bending a string further doesn't make anyone a better player. Most string bends are done with the index, middle, and ring fingers together anyway and it also depends on what gauge strings you play. SRV, for instance, used very big strings compared to most players. I tended to use bigger than average strings as well, something like .010-.048, if I remember correctly, so it did make that aspect a little more difficult but the tone was a little better as well, in my opinion.
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slucero wrote:conversationpc wrote:Rick wrote:Agreed. Neal is no shredder. His middle and ring finger tend to be married, which reduces his shredding capacity to very small. It does, however, like a lot of guitarists that marry those two fingers, gives him the ability to bend strings farther, which makes him and them better at melodic songs.
I'm not an expert player but played long enough to know that bending a string further doesn't make anyone a better player. Most string bends are done with the index, middle, and ring fingers together anyway and it also depends on what gauge strings you play. SRV, for instance, used very big strings compared to most players. I tended to use bigger than average strings as well, something like .010-.048, if I remember correctly, so it did make that aspect a little more difficult but the tone was a little better as well, in my opinion.
GHS Nickel Rockers
.013
.015
.019 (plain)
.028
.038
.058.
koberry wrote:slucero wrote:conversationpc wrote:Rick wrote:Agreed. Neal is no shredder. His middle and ring finger tend to be married, which reduces his shredding capacity to very small. It does, however, like a lot of guitarists that marry those two fingers, gives him the ability to bend strings farther, which makes him and them better at melodic songs.
I'm not an expert player but played long enough to know that bending a string further doesn't make anyone a better player. Most string bends are done with the index, middle, and ring fingers together anyway and it also depends on what gauge strings you play. SRV, for instance, used very big strings compared to most players. I tended to use bigger than average strings as well, something like .010-.048, if I remember correctly, so it did make that aspect a little more difficult but the tone was a little better as well, in my opinion.
GHS Nickel Rockers
.013
.015
.019 (plain)
.028
.038
.058.
You must need a winch to bend those thingsI've played super slinky's for 20 years and have never deviated. Admittedly, sometimes the same set of strings sit on the guitar for 2 years or more
conversationpc wrote:koberry wrote:slucero wrote:conversationpc wrote:Rick wrote:Agreed. Neal is no shredder. His middle and ring finger tend to be married, which reduces his shredding capacity to very small. It does, however, like a lot of guitarists that marry those two fingers, gives him the ability to bend strings farther, which makes him and them better at melodic songs.
I'm not an expert player but played long enough to know that bending a string further doesn't make anyone a better player. Most string bends are done with the index, middle, and ring fingers together anyway and it also depends on what gauge strings you play. SRV, for instance, used very big strings compared to most players. I tended to use bigger than average strings as well, something like .010-.048, if I remember correctly, so it did make that aspect a little more difficult but the tone was a little better as well, in my opinion.
GHS Nickel Rockers
.013
.015
.019 (plain)
.028
.038
.058.
You must need a winch to bend those thingsI've played super slinky's for 20 years and have never deviated. Admittedly, sometimes the same set of strings sit on the guitar for 2 years or more
Yeah, that rust really adds to the tone of the strings.
koberry wrote:conversationpc wrote:Yeah, that rust really adds to the tone of the strings.
A little extra 'crunch' to the tone. I'm amazed I don't break 'em more often. They're a pain to replace on my dang Schon guitar. Riffing along to Edge of the Moment now - yeah!
T-Bone wrote:Another player that is grossly underrated is Andy Timmons. I think the Danger Danger "Hair Band" tag haunts him sometimes. That dude has some killer solo/instrumental releases.
koberry wrote:conversationpc wrote:koberry wrote:slucero wrote:conversationpc wrote:Rick wrote:Agreed. Neal is no shredder. His middle and ring finger tend to be married, which reduces his shredding capacity to very small. It does, however, like a lot of guitarists that marry those two fingers, gives him the ability to bend strings farther, which makes him and them better at melodic songs.
I'm not an expert player but played long enough to know that bending a string further doesn't make anyone a better player. Most string bends are done with the index, middle, and ring fingers together anyway and it also depends on what gauge strings you play. SRV, for instance, used very big strings compared to most players. I tended to use bigger than average strings as well, something like .010-.048, if I remember correctly, so it did make that aspect a little more difficult but the tone was a little better as well, in my opinion.
GHS Nickel Rockers
.013
.015
.019 (plain)
.028
.038
.058.
You must need a winch to bend those thingsI've played super slinky's for 20 years and have never deviated. Admittedly, sometimes the same set of strings sit on the guitar for 2 years or more
Yeah, that rust really adds to the tone of the strings.
A little extra 'crunch' to the tone. I'm amazed I don't break 'em more often. They're a pain to replace on my dang Schon guitar. Riffing along to Edge of the Moment now - yeah!
Deb wrote:Ok, and forgive me if this is a stupid question to you guitar players, but as per my post above, how do you get that crunchy tone? Is it the thickness of the strings or a certain pedal used??Absolutely love that crunchy guitar sound in the clip I posted.
conversationpc wrote:Deb wrote:Ok, and forgive me if this is a stupid question to you guitar players, but as per my post above, how do you get that crunchy tone? Is it the thickness of the strings or a certain pedal used??Absolutely love that crunchy guitar sound in the clip I posted.
It's a combination of a ton of different things, i.e., the guitar you're using, pickups, strings, your amplifier, effects, etc. Honestly, just about any player should be able to produce that kind of tone as long as you have a decent guitar and amplifier, though.
Deb wrote:conversationpc wrote:Deb wrote:Ok, and forgive me if this is a stupid question to you guitar players, but as per my post above, how do you get that crunchy tone? Is it the thickness of the strings or a certain pedal used??Absolutely love that crunchy guitar sound in the clip I posted.
It's a combination of a ton of different things, i.e., the guitar you're using, pickups, strings, your amplifier, effects, etc. Honestly, just about any player should be able to produce that kind of tone as long as you have a decent guitar and amplifier, though.
Thanks for the answer Dave, like I said I don't know jack about guitars, but wondered what makes that more crunchy sound, some songs have it and some don't. I like it.
conversationpc wrote:Deb wrote:Ok, and forgive me if this is a stupid question to you guitar players, but as per my post above, how do you get that crunchy tone? Is it the thickness of the strings or a certain pedal used??Absolutely love that crunchy guitar sound in the clip I posted.
It's a combination of a ton of different things, i.e., the guitar you're using, pickups, strings, your amplifier, effects, etc. Honestly, just about any player should be able to produce that kind of tone as long as you have a decent guitar and amplifier, though.
koberry wrote:conversationpc wrote:Deb wrote:Ok, and forgive me if this is a stupid question to you guitar players, but as per my post above, how do you get that crunchy tone? Is it the thickness of the strings or a certain pedal used??Absolutely love that crunchy guitar sound in the clip I posted.
It's a combination of a ton of different things, i.e., the guitar you're using, pickups, strings, your amplifier, effects, etc. Honestly, just about any player should be able to produce that kind of tone as long as you have a decent guitar and amplifier, though.
That's it - a combination of equipment and talent. I'm lacking a bit of both and the rusty strings don't help
Journey/Survivor wrote:I haven't looked at the list yet. But here are some of my favorites.
Neal Schon. Yes, Neal can shred with anyone!
He may not chose to all-out shred very often. But when he does he can match up with anyone. Neal has the fastest picking hand I've ever heard. The only one who comes close is John Mclaughlin.
Tony McAlpine
Malmsteen
Jeff Watson
Brad Gillis
Paul Gilbert
Neil Zaza
That's just a short list.
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