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Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:37 am**

Not very good. Overall 2 decent songs 1 so- so song(pretty much the same feeling i got with the new journey cd) , guy sounds more like Trever horn, he really doesn't sound like Jon anderson to me,but this cd is not near the quality of DRAMA.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:08 am**

TRANSLATION: Every song on the album is great except for 1, and 2 are so-so. Almost as good as Eclipse.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:24 am**

Rip Rokken wrote:TRANSLATION: Every song on the album is great except for 1, and 2 are so-so. Almost as good as Eclipse.

That is good to know as i am going to see Styx/Yes next Fri

Thanks Rip. :wink:

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:41 am**

Babyblue wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:TRANSLATION: Every song on the album is great except for 1, and 2 are so-so. Almost as good as Eclipse.

That is good to know as i am going to see Styx/Yes next Fri Thanks Rip.

I like Yulog just fine but his reviews are always completely backwards. I think he'd make a great Alice In Wonderland character.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:43 am**

Rip Rokken wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:TRANSLATION: Every song on the album is great except for 1, and 2 are so-so. Almost as good as Eclipse.

That is good to know as i am going to see Styx/Yes next Fri Thanks Rip.

I like Yulog just fine but his reviews are always completely backwards. I think he'd make a great Alice In Wonderland character.

Or a great George Costanza...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RerJWv5vwxc

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:46 am**

S2M wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:TRANSLATION: Every song on the album is great except for 1, and 2 are so-so. Almost as good as Eclipse.

That is good to know as i am going to see Styx/Yes next Fri Thanks Rip.

I like Yulog just fine but his reviews are always completely backwards. I think he'd make a great Alice In Wonderland character.

Or a great George Costanza...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RerJWv5vwxc

Best sitcom, ever.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:11 am**

yulog wrote:Not very good. Overall 2 decent songs 1 so- so song(pretty much the same feeling i got with the new journey cd) , guy sounds more like Trever horn, he really doesn't sound like Jon anderson to me,but this cd is not near the quality of DRAMA.

I've always thought "Drama" was a very underrated album. I've always especially loved "Machine Messiah". I'll have to check out the new one.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:16 am**

I saw Jon Anderson in Annapolis, MD back in May. He sounded good. It was an acoustic, storytellers setting. He mentioned on stage he still expects to work with Yes again in the future.

I think Chris Squire feels Jon wouldn't hold up on a full schedule.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:44 am**

AR wrote:I saw Jon Anderson in Annapolis, MD back in May. He sounded good. It was an acoustic, storytellers setting. He mentioned on stage he still expects to work with Yes again in the future.

I think Chris Squire feels Jon wouldn't hold up on a full schedule.

Jon Anderson is a unique voice for sure. Almost everyone thinks he sings falsetto most of the time but that is actually his normal voice. One thing's for certain, though...The guy is certainly a weirdo. :lol:

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:53 am**

Rip Rokken wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:TRANSLATION: Every song on the album is great except for 1, and 2 are so-so. Almost as good as Eclipse.

That is good to know as i am going to see Styx/Yes next Fri Thanks Rip.

I like Yulog just fine but his reviews are always completely backwards. I think he'd make a great Alice In Wonderland character.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:43 pm**

conversationpc wrote:
yulog wrote:Not very good. Overall 2 decent songs 1 so- so song(pretty much the same feeling i got with the new journey cd) , guy sounds more like Trever horn, he really doesn't sound like Jon anderson to me,but this cd is not near the quality of DRAMA.

I've always thought "Drama" was a very underrated album. I've always especially loved "Machine Messiah". I'll have to check out the new one.

A great cd! unfortunatly this doesnt sound like drama , I think his voice just sounds more like horn. I was hoping for this to be good but its just not very memorable.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:22 pm**

So far the new cd is kinda sleepy...To me anyways...Great music as always, but sleepy.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:54 pm**

The Trevor Rabin era this is not (unfortunately). Definitely a return to old school Yes. The bonus track, Hour Of Need is alright. The rest will require a few more listens.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:30 am**

Yes has been my fav band since 1979 and I have to say....I am kinda dissapointed, but glad there is a new Yes album. Benoit does not sound like Jon, but more like Trevor as someone said already. The music is medicore at best for me. I was expecting something with more drama lol! It does sound more like a Asia, Buggles album since Horn and Downes are in the mix...(yea what did I expect). Drama is clearly superior to this. I only listened to it twice, but I don't think it will get any better for me. I do like some of the arrangements of the music though.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:36 am**

The new album is nothing I'm going to be buying, unless I see it in the cut-out bin for 99cents (probably a couple more weeks for that, LOL).

A lot of Yes fans are jacking off over this CD because they did a long-form suite again, but it's no big deal. Geoff Downes hasn't played with Yes since 1980 and his keyboard style in Asia is a lot more straightforward and "stock" than the kind of stuff Rick Wakeman and Patrick Moraz do. Geoff plays like Tony Kaye, just (obviously) better.

The entire new album was uploaded to YT and the suite was okay, the last tune is okay, and EVERYTHING in-between sounded like shit except for Steve Howe's guitar instrumental.

Right now the once-invincible Yes is getting shitty live reviews, Styx is blowing them away (sad but true) and somewhere Oliver Wakeman and his dad are laughing.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:39 am**

P.S. The keyboardist in the version of Asia that still exists with John Payne (remember, Geoff unceremoniously canned everybody so he could get the original line-up back) is Erik Norlander, and he dusts Geoff Downes in terms of both playing AND synth sounds. I'd rather go see Payne-Asia than "Gaysia" aka new Yes!

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:46 am**

verslibre wrote:A lot of Yes fans are jacking off over this CD because they did a long-form suite again, but it's no big deal.

I really liked the epic tunes they did on KTA 1 & 2 but I don't see getting excited over a song just because it's "long-form". Doing something extended is cool as long as you're doing something interesting with it. Otherwise, it's just long for the sake of long. I believe I remember Wakeman having a problem with that mentality back when they did "Tales from Topographic Oceans".

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:54 am**

conversationpc wrote:
verslibre wrote:A lot of Yes fans are jacking off over this CD because they did a long-form suite again, but it's no big deal.

I really liked the epic tunes they did on KTA 1 & 2 but I don't see getting excited over a song just because it's "long-form". Doing something extended is cool as long as you're doing something interesting with it. Otherwise, it's just long for the sake of long. I believe I remember Wakeman having a problem with that mentality back when they did "Tales from Topographic Oceans".

The KTA material was way better than this new hackneyed "epic," believe me. Hell, no, it's not "Drama 2"! And they even did a fucking Buggles song. WTF?

They fucked up by firing Oliver Wakeman. There's too much politicking in the band, more than ever. Wakeman is friends with Jon Anderson and Trevor Rabin. That grates on Chris and Alan, so they punished Oliver. But Geoff Downes can't play Rick's lines like his son Oliver can. I read he's up there with sheet music and sight-reading stuff and standing there like a chump with his hands at his sides sometimes. Geoff should stay in Asia.

The complaints about Alan White are even worse. It sounds like Howe and Benoit David are carrying the whole fucking band! Oh, well.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:17 am**

Fact Finder wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
AR wrote:I saw Jon Anderson in Annapolis, MD back in May. He sounded good. It was an acoustic, storytellers setting. He mentioned on stage he still expects to work with Yes again in the future.

I think Chris Squire feels Jon wouldn't hold up on a full schedule.

Jon Anderson is a unique voice for sure. Almost everyone thinks he sings falsetto most of the time but that is actually his normal voice. One thing's for certain, though...The guy is certainly a weirdo.

Tony Kaye told me the story of the Union Tour, the tour where all of the members who played in Yes over the years united and toured the world together. On about the 4th date on the tour, the members came walking into their dressing room that afternoon to find that Anderson had sent the roadies out to buy him a Teepee, a real Indian one. They were all like, what the fuck is that thing doing in the dressing room? They walk over to it and find Anderson inside with incense burning and he was meditating or some shit. Ohm,Ohm,Ohm. Anderson tells them to fuck off, that he needs his space to get his mind right for the shows. So Wakeman, who Kaye says is the funniest fucker you'd ever meet gets an idea. The next stop on the tour, the guys again walk into the dressing room before sound check and there is the Teepee w/Anderson inside, and over in another corner is a brand new Sears Backyard Tool Shed, the metal kind that has about 200 screws in it to put it together. The guys go over to the shed and inside sits Wakeman and also, a snow blower, shovels, rakes, leaf blowers etc...(Wakeman is a farmer in real life) the ask him "What the hell" and Wakeman is like, "Fuck Jon, if can have his little teepee every night to feel good about himself then I can have my shed just like at home. So for the rest of that tour the poor roadies had to put up and take down nightly the damn teepee and Sears shed and move them from town to town.

That story is fucking hilarious!!! :lol:

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:54 am**

Wakeman has some of the best stories EVER. Hands down, my favorite Yes alumnus (and that will never change).

I love the story about how he's eating a fantastic chicken dinner prepped for him by the band's road chef, and all the "vegetarians" in the band — Jon, Steve, Alan — kept poking their heads through the door, one at a time, ten minutes apart, asking if they could have "a little meat, because it's alright to have some every once in a while." :lol:

So Rick would be, sure, man, have some, knock yourself out, laughing to himself after every one of them walked away eating some of the meat he gave them.

Rick gets a lot of hate (I don't know why), but he was the most levelheaded Yes guy of them all, IMO.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:05 am**

I know in later years (Talk) Anderson toured with a breathing tent as well so he could have a pure environment for breathing treatments.

I can confirm the teepee. My brother worked for the University Police at UNLV and when the Union tour came through he let me walk through the backstage area and on the stage in the morning before the show. He then said you have to see this and he walked me to Anderson's dressing room and there was the freaking teepee. Epically hilarious. Did not see the shed.

I got to do this for a lot of shows in between classes in the early 90s. I can say one band had 5 keyboard players and a guitar player under the stage to cover the stuff going on stage.

Trixter had a keyboard player behind the stage as their songs had keyboards all over them. They were open about it though and considered him a member of the band, but management wanted a young hip 4-piece band. This guy was a little older probably late 20s, hippie looking guy. Did not fit the look. They credited him on both records and on the live MTV special during the credits it said Trixter is and it had all five guys listed.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:09 am**

NO musicman - and especially any woman - can hate a man with such fast fingers, as Rick Wakeman.

John -

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:15 am**

Hollywood wrote:I can say one band had 5 keyboard players and a guitar player under the stage to cover the stuff going on stage.

My guess is Toto.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:58 am**

verslibre wrote:
Hollywood wrote:I can say one band had 5 keyboard players and a guitar player under the stage to cover the stuff going on stage.

My guess is Toto.

I don't want to say as it will cause all kinds of shit. People calling me a liar and this band would never do it. I know I saw it with my own eyes and that's all that matters. It was not Toto. They were past their ticket selling prime and the Thomas & Mack is a huge arena.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:07 am**

Hollywood wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Hollywood wrote:I can say one band had 5 keyboard players and a guitar player under the stage to cover the stuff going on stage.

My guess is Toto.

I don't want to say as it will cause all kinds of shit. People calling me a liar and this band would never do it. I know I saw it with my own eyes and that's all that matters. It was not Toto. They were past their ticket selling prime and the Thomas & Mack is a huge arena.

PM me. I'm just curious to know which band needed FIVE keyboardists underneath them. I'm not one of the shit-stirrers. You know who they are on this site! :lol:

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:26 am**

Rip Rokken wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:TRANSLATION: Every song on the album is great except for 1, and 2 are so-so. Almost as good as Eclipse.

That is good to know as i am going to see Styx/Yes next Fri Thanks Rip.

I like Yulog just fine but his reviews are always completely backwards. I think he'd make a great Alice In Wonderland character.

That can be arranged............... :wink:

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:40 am**

artist4perry wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Babyblue wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:TRANSLATION: Every song on the album is great except for 1, and 2 are so-so. Almost as good as Eclipse.

That is good to know as i am going to see Styx/Yes next Fri Thanks Rip.

I like Yulog just fine but his reviews are always completely backwards. I think he'd make a great Alice In Wonderland character.

That can be arranged...............

I can't think of anyone who could do that better. I got so many compliments on the one you did for me. The trick though is, getting a picture of Yulog to start it off with. I don't know if he's ever posted one of himself.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:44 am**

Hollywood wrote:I got to do this for a lot of shows in between classes in the early 90s. I can say one band had 5 keyboard players and a guitar player under the stage to cover the stuff going on stage.

Come on, dude! You can't drop something like that, tease people with it, and then not mention them.

Trixter had a keyboard player behind the stage as their songs had keyboards all over them. They were open about it though and considered him a member of the band, but management wanted a young hip 4-piece band. This guy was a little older probably late 20s, hippie looking guy. Did not fit the look. They credited him on both records and on the live MTV special during the credits it said Trixter is and it had all five guys listed.

I don't get that. If you have a guy playing a part offstage, what is it going to hurt to just put him in a corner on the stage with the other musicians? People realize that some bands may have an extra musician on stage for some things. It's not that big of a deal.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:39 am**

conversationpc wrote:I don't get that. If you have a guy playing a part offstage, what is it going to hurt to just put him in a corner on the stage with the other musicians? People realize that some bands may have an extra musician on stage for some things. It's not that big of a deal.

Thin Lizzy had no problem putting Darren Wharton on a riser next to Brian Downey's kit.

Geoff Nicholls was also onstage with Sabbath. Off to the side, but still ON the stage.

Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe aka ABWH also had the 2nd keyboarder (Matt Clifford) and guitarist (fergit his name) onstage with them. Matt filled out the sound while Wakey wailed away like a mofo.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:29 pm**

verslibre wrote:
conversationpc wrote:I don't get that. If you have a guy playing a part offstage, what is it going to hurt to just put him in a corner on the stage with the other musicians? People realize that some bands may have an extra musician on stage for some things. It's not that big of a deal.

Thin Lizzy had no problem putting Darren Wharton on a riser next to Brian Downey's kit.

Geoff Nicholls was also onstage with Sabbath. Off to the side, but still ON the stage.

Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe aka ABWH also had the 2nd keyboarder (Matt Clifford) and guitarist (fergit his name) onstage with them. Matt filled out the sound while Wakey wailed away like a mofo.

Ask Van Halen why they never made Alan Fitzgerald visible.

MR

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