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Awesome Film Seen midnight and first showing this am before heading for the office Excellent with regards to following end of book imo

If you are a fan go see it

I didn't think they could hold it together for 8 films but they managed it.
Though, I am more geeked for the new Winnie The Pooh Movie which comes out tonight also.

So does harry die or what?

rather classic 20+ questions you might have regarding the movie....

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars ... tions.html

Going to go see it with my daughter......tradition........once the hype and first showings are over and all the kiddies have seen it. I am not fond of trying to watch a movie with toddlers talking through the whole thing. Looks good in the previews.

Rowling is the biggest literary thief I've ever seen....another rags to riches story borne on the wings of burglary. She makes George Lucas look like the King of Originality....

That being said, I've seen all 7 movies so far....I've read none.

S2M wrote:Rowling is the biggest literary thief I've ever seen....another rags to riches story borne on the wings of burglary. She makes George Lucas look like the King of Originality....

That being said, I've seen all 7 movies so far....I've read none.

Curious.....who did she rip off?


Read all of the books. It got my son to read who hated to read when he was little. He now reads on average 7 books a week and is wanting to be a writer.

The stories were very entertaining and have become a bonding thing between me and my children for years. We read the earlier books together.

I am no fan of the woman though, she has a tendency to make ridiculous statements to irritate people. Stupid for someone who has brought more children to reading than most children's authors out there.

Her writing style brings the story to life and the movies miss some great things.......try picking up a book. The first one is more of an introduction to characters, Harry, and Hogwarts.

S2M wrote:Rowling is the biggest literary thief I've ever seen....another rags to riches story borne on the wings of burglary. She makes George Lucas look like the King of Originality....
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For fucks sake Shakespeare borrowed from ideas from classical literature and the bible. Euripides rewrote Sophocloes plays after Sophocles rewrote Aescylus's plays. Verdi stole ideas from his operas from the same sources . thats what artists do, theme and variation. whats the big deal.

Had the pleasure of taking the gf to see it today. Incredibly entertaining film, this part reserved mostly for the action. Character deaths on the heroes' side were surprisingly brutal and one in particular was among the most horrific I've seen in recent memory.

S2M wrote:Rowling is the biggest literary thief I've ever seen....another rags to riches story borne on the wings of burglary. She makes George Lucas look like the King of Originality....

Who cares?

That being said, I've seen all 7 movies so far....I've read none.

Who cares, part 2?

conversationpc wrote:

S2M wrote:Rowling is the biggest literary thief I've ever seen....another rags to riches story borne on the wings of burglary. She makes George Lucas look like the King of Originality....

Who cares?

That being said, I've seen all 7 movies so far....I've read none.

Who cares, part 2?

Gideon wrote:Had the pleasure of taking the gf to see it today. Incredibly entertaining film, this part reserved mostly for the action.

true, but they did a fair amount of character moments, which is really what made the film work. There were fewer battle scenes than the previews would suggest, but it's a pretty much nonstop ride.

Gideon wrote:Character deaths on the heroes' side were surprisingly brutal and one in particular was among the most horrific I've seen in recent memory.

If I'm thinking of the one you're thinking of, definitely yes. Actually, I can think of two that were very ugly. Both could qualify, but one easily takes the cake.

They had a huge challenge with the final book since it was way too much for one movie and not enough for two. Cutting it would have probably ripped the emotional core out of the story, so I think they made the right choice. The certainly did from a financial aspect.

I think the tension was a bit messed up after the forest, but that's probably just the way it is with that story, and there isn't any way around that. There are a couple of stunning moments of movie-making magic that are well worth the price of admission.

There have been some missteps along the way that may have a lot to do with compounding problems from not knowing how things were going to end and what would be important to see. That said, they have gotten a lot more right than wrong. Either way, very good film and a worthy send-off to the books. Nice to see a rare summer blockbuster that lives up to the hype.

kgdjpubs wrote:true, but they did a fair amount of character moments, which is really what made the film work. There were fewer battle scenes than the previews would suggest, but it's a pretty much nonstop ride.

Oh, definitely. What I meant is that it really wasn't the last half of the book so much as the last third, this was simply dealing with the few remaining loose ends.

Very well paced.

k wrote:If I'm thinking of the one you're thinking of, definitely yes. Actually, I can think of two that were very ugly. Both could qualify, but one easily takes the cake.

You certainly are. One could say that the death I'm thinking of was very.... cutthroat.
Can't quite remember the second one you're thinking of, though, though my next guess would be the one that really.... bites.

k wrote:They had a huge challenge with the final book since it was way too much for one movie and not enough for two. Cutting it would have probably ripped the emotional core out of the story, so I think they made the right choice. The certainly did from a financial aspect.

I think the tension was a bit messed up after the forest, but that's probably just the way it is with that story, and there isn't any way around that. There are a couple of stunning moments of movie-making magic that are well worth the price of admission.

There have been some missteps along the way that may have a lot to do with compounding problems from not knowing how things were going to end and what would be important to see. That said, they have gotten a lot more right than wrong. Either way, very good film and a worthy send-off to the books. Nice to see a rare summer blockbuster that lives up to the hype.

There were a few questionable moments, but I enjoyed that they dispensed with the bullshit deus ex machina duel found in the book and we were treated to an actual duel-and-chase at the end. The book's version was depressingly anticlimactic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APhdCSj-j8Q

Sums up my feelings perfectly!

Gideon wrote:

k wrote:If I'm thinking of the one you're thinking of, definitely yes. Actually, I can think of two that were very ugly. Both could qualify, but one easily takes the cake.

You certainly are. One could say that the death I'm thinking of was very.... cutthroat.
Can't quite remember the second one you're thinking of, though, though my next guess would be the one that really.... bites.

actually, you could say that for both scenes. I would tend to say the dead one is worse than the dying one, although the character itself plays some role in the former. Both are rather gruesome.

Gideon wrote:

k wrote:They had a huge challenge with the final book since it was way too much for one movie and not enough for two. Cutting it would have probably ripped the emotional core out of the story, so I think they made the right choice. The certainly did from a financial aspect.

I think the tension was a bit messed up after the forest, but that's probably just the way it is with that story, and there isn't any way around that. There are a couple of stunning moments of movie-making magic that are well worth the price of admission.

There have been some missteps along the way that may have a lot to do with compounding problems from not knowing how things were going to end and what would be important to see. That said, they have gotten a lot more right than wrong. Either way, very good film and a worthy send-off to the books. Nice to see a rare summer blockbuster that lives up to the hype.

There were a few questionable moments, but I enjoyed that they dispensed with the bullshit deus ex machina duel found in the book and we were treated to an actual duel-and-chase at the end. The book's version was depressingly anticlimactic.

yes, I agree. Much more cinematic the way they did it in the movie. I think they actually did a better job explaining the why also than the book did.

The epilogue comes off marginally better than in the book also, but I always thought it was horribly cheesy. Not sure how to improve it, but I don't think that was it. I think if anything, I would have put it AFTER the credits.

Agreed on the gruesomeness.

So i'm guessing everyone but harry get's it in this one right?

Everett wrote:So i'm guessing everyone but harry get's it in this one right?

Something of a mild spoiler, so highlight the following if you're interested: Oh, Harry definitely "gets it" too.

Saw it last night... I thought it was great - will probably see it again before it leaves theaters. I expected the battles at Hogwarts to be a little bit more intense, as they are in the book, but that's not a complaint... it was all very well done. Give Alan Rickman all the awards!

Spoiler if you haven't read it, highlight this if you already have (or if you don't care about spoilers ) ....... The part where Mrs. Weasley takes out Bellatrix Lestrange was pretty frickin' badass!! "Not my daughter, you bitch!" *POW*


And the whole Snape backstory - just awesome and SO well-acted!!

Well said.

Rickman has very limited screen time, but when he's there, he owns the scene. I actually loved how he was a little taller than Voldemort.

To answer your question, ginger, Rowling five-finger discounts from many fantasy authors...most notably:

Tolkien's LOTR
Orson Scott Card's 'Ender's Game'
Jane Yolen's "Wizard's Hall"

I've read all three of these. The theft is obvious. She gets unwarranted praise for pioneering this style of fantasy...not unlike Evanescence did for bringing their unoriginal gothic style to the mainstream. Someone mentioned deus ex machina? She is the master of this literary tool.

Thank God this shit is over.

Horrific deaths to protagonists? Watch The Descent if you want to see somebody die in unbelievably fucked-up way.

S2M wrote:To answer your question, ginger, Rowling five-finger discounts from many fantasy authors...most notably:

Tolkien's LOTR
Orson Scott Card's 'Ender's Game'
Jane Yolen's "Wizard's Hall"

I've read all three of these. The theft is obvious. She gets unwarranted praise for pioneering this style of fantasy...not unlike Evanescence did for bringing their unoriginal gothic style to the mainstream. Someone mentioned deus ex machina? She is the master of this literary tool.

Everyone knows she lifts her ideas wholesale. She's still filthy stinkin' rich and there's nothing anybody can do about it. IIRC she also settled out of court years ago with an American author who sued her.

I'm just glad I won't have to hear Haaayyyyyyyy-rrrrryyy Pawwt-tuhhhhhhh! on the fuckin' TV, anymore. At least not after the ads for this movie die down.

The film's most awkward and hilarious moment right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLKzJtjyc0E

verslibre wrote:

S2M wrote:To answer your question, ginger, Rowling five-finger discounts from many fantasy authors...most notably:

Tolkien's LOTR
Orson Scott Card's 'Ender's Game'
Jane Yolen's "Wizard's Hall"

I've read all three of these. The theft is obvious. She gets unwarranted praise for pioneering this style of fantasy...not unlike Evanescence did for bringing their unoriginal gothic style to the mainstream. Someone mentioned deus ex machina? She is the master of this literary tool.

Everyone knows she lifts her ideas wholesale. She's still filthy stinkin' rich and there's nothing anybody can do about it. IIRC she also settled out of court years ago with an American author who sued her.

I'm just glad I won't have to hear Haaayyyyyyyy-rrrrryyy Pawwt-tuhhhhhhh! on the fuckin' TV, anymore. At least not after the ads for this movie die down.

I agree. I actually tried to watch the first Potter film when it came out. I couldn't get past the kids speaking with that fucking horrific english accent. It was painful to hear and I never watched another, never will, and couldn't be more elated that this is the last one. Thank you Jesus!