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It's very quiet.

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:15 am
by Rick
So I'll throw a log on the fire.
Verizon Workers on strike.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 4#44099424
Verizon just paid a $10 Billion dividend to it's stock holders, had $27 Billion in revenue in the second quarter and wants it's employees to take what equates to a $20,000 a year cut in pay and benefits.

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:24 am
by Saint John
Fire them.


Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:25 am
by StevePerryHair

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:26 am
by Rick

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:26 am
by Arianddu
Sounds like it's time for the US to have another revolution. A little socialism, like a little salt, does you good


Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:37 am
by Saint John
I just watched some of the link that Rick posted. Just fire those goofs. Fuck, look at them. Hire a couple of hungry high school grads and save the company some money. Those people don't seem like they'll be too hard to replace. My company doubled our health insurance costs and I didn't say a word. If I have a problem with it, I'll simply go and find another place of employment, and I suggest those people do, too. Standing outside like useless slabs of meat and making fools of yourself, also known as the shameless act of "protesting," is really fucking dumb.

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:54 am
by S2M
Saint John wrote:I just watched some of the link that Rick posted. Just fire those goofs. Fuck, look at them. Hire a couple of hungry high school grads and save the company some money. Those people don't seem like they'll be too hard to replace. My company doubled our health insurance costs and I didn't say a word. If I have a problem with it, I'll simply go and find another place of employment, and I suggest those people do, too. Standing outside like useless slabs of meat and making fools of yourself, also known as the shameless act of "protesting," is really fucking dumb.
Yeah, Dan, those chowds that slung that tea in the drink back in seventeen seventy-fuck didn't accomplish Jack shit, huh?


Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:46 am
by Arianddu
Fact Finder wrote:Arianddu wrote:Sounds like it's time for the US to have another revolution. A little socialism, like a little salt, does you good

Hate to break the news to you, but if and when the next revolution comes to America, it will be a revolution to take out these socialist bastards that infect our government and welfare class.
Meh, not my country. If you want to sell your very souls for another dollar instead of looking after your communities, take your handbasket and be done with it.


Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:56 am
by scarygirl

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:03 pm
by Argus
/me runs into thread, drops a cherry bomb then runs off
FF you are a very scary dude .. have fun with the post Apocalyptic USA along with SJ...
/me sharpens pointy things, arms bears and makes beef jerky


Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:08 pm
by Arianddu
Argus wrote:/me runs into thread, drops a cherry bomb then runs off
FF you are a very scary dude .. have fun with the post Apocalyptic USA along with SJ...
/me sharpens pointy things, arms bears and makes beef jerky



Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:46 pm
by Seven Wishes2
Fact Finder wrote:Arianddu wrote:Sounds like it's time for the US to have another revolution. A little socialism, like a little salt, does you good

Hate to break the news to you, but if and when the next revolution comes to America, it will be a revolution to take out these socialist bastards that infect our government and welfare class.
The Tea Bagger dialogue would lead one to believe so and, when it comes down to it, they're the main instigators and the ones all over the message boards making (c)overt threats and stockpiling weapons.
However, you're dead wrong. The only revolution will be a symbolic one, and it will involve the middle class taking their country back from the rich elitists and mega corporations.
Re: It's very quiet.

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:49 pm
by Seven Wishes2
Rick wrote:
So I'll throw a log on the fire.

Verizon Workers on strike.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 4#44099424Verizon just paid a $10 Billion dividend to it's stock holders, had $27 Billion in revenue in the second quarter and wants it's employees to take what equates to a $20,000 a year cut in pay and benefits.
One of my clients' husbands is in upper management at Verizon, and his contract stipulates he and the other guys in management have to work 12 hour shifts, seven days a week, until the conflict is resolved. Never mind that it's backbreaking, highly dangerous work out in the field, and they have no formal training. He said about 5% of the strikers are over the edge and out of control, but the remainder is mostly engaged in peaceful protests. He's on their side. Of course, they've told him his position will be outsourced to India after the strike ends (thank you, George Dubbya), or that if he quits, his severance package is null and void.
Re: It's very quiet.

Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:31 am
by Arkansas
Seven Wishes wrote:One of my clients' husbands is in upper management at Verizon, and his contract stipulates he and the other guys in management have to work 12 hour shifts, seven days a week, until the conflict is resolved. Never mind that it's backbreaking, highly dangerous work out in the field, and they have no formal training. He said about 5% of the strikers are over the edge and out of control, but the remainder is mostly engaged in peaceful protests. He's on their side. Of course, they've told him his position will be outsourced to India after the strike ends (thank you, George Dubbya), or that if he quits, his severance package is null and void.
"his contract" Pretty much says it all. Was he coerced into signing it, or was it by choice?
later~

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Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:11 am
by RocknRoll
Since I retired I depend on dividends from corporations for income like many other ritirees. Since Verizon is known as one of those "Blue Chip" companies, it's in a whole lot of 401s, probably yours. Thank you for the dividend Verizon!

Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:44 am
by artist4perry
Hey, when things get crazy and all heck breaks loose; looting, riots, total shutdown of the grid..........I am going to go find one of those hunter folks and make good friends. They will have the know how to make and find food. Survivalists will rule the country.
Go Elmer! Viva la rustic living! I personally will learn farming.
I can make baskets and other things of use in survival. "TO THE HILLS!'" *runs off laughing wildly*


Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:52 am
by verslibre
It'll be the Wild West all over again. Brothels will be numerous and perfectly socially acceptable as recreational outlets.

Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:53 am
by ebake02
Those employees get 100% free health care, god forbid they have to pay a little bit like everybody else in the working world does. I have no sympathy for those people, they rake in close to 6 figures a year and have a benefits package that most people could only dream of having. I see nothing wrong with Verizon trying to bring these greedy people back to earth so they're on par with the rest of us.

Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:43 am
by hoagiepete
First, I sit on union health and welfare and pension trusts and appreciate their work.
However, dressing up in rat costumes and bannering good employers like they do does nothing to help their cause. Hell, half the time they are after other unions in our area.
You socialists that bitch about the Corps... bitch and bitch...and then bitch again when the value of your pensions go down when they are not profitable. How many of your pensions invest in Verizon?
Union guys do it all the time. Bitch about "the man" and bitch again when their pension is in the tank. OxyMORONic.

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Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:36 pm
by ebake02
I am slowly turning against unions, they seem to be very self-centered and short sighted anymore. They don't realize that strikes like this are more harmful in the long run and they are only hurting themselves. Verizon isn't losing a minute of sleep over this and why should they, they're paying 45,000 less people than they were before the strike.