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What a woman!!!!! I LOVE this story (for obvious reasons)!

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Woman-gives-birth-hours-after-completing-Chicago?urn=oly-wp756

What kind of a woman would endanger an unborn child by running in a marathon.......I mean, WTF?

steveo777 wrote:What kind of a woman would endanger an unborn child by running in a marathon.......I mean, WTF?

Don't make me use my midwife voice!!!

Angel wrote:

steveo777 wrote:What kind of a woman would endanger an unborn child by running in a marathon.......I mean, WTF?

Don't make me use my midwife voice!!!

Enlighten me, Nat. I'm not in the mood to read verbose articles. Tell me why you think a pregnant woman running is a good thing for the child.

First thing I thought. What the fuck is a pregnant woman — that far along, no less — doing running a MARATHON?

steveo777 wrote:

Angel wrote:

steveo777 wrote:What kind of a woman would endanger an unborn child by running in a marathon.......I mean, WTF?

Don't make me use my midwife voice!!!

Enlighten me, Nat. I'm not in the mood to read verbose articles. Tell me why you think a pregnant woman running is a good thing for the child.

Because the mom had been running before her pregancy and continued to run during her pregnancy. There's no reason she needed to quit running as long as there were no complications. She was full term-39 weeks. She walked half and ran half. A few hours after she finished she had her baby and all was well.

Moms do far more damage by sitting on the couch eating Cheetos than by exercising while they are pregnant. Trust me, I know these things!

verslibre wrote:First thing I thought. What the fuck is a pregnant woman — that far along, no less — doing running a MARATHON?

She's being freakin' awesome, that's what she's doing!
It's amazing that she ran a marathon...more amazing that she was 39 weeks pregnant and more amazing that she then gave birth on the same day she ran a marathon! I've done both and the mere thought of doing them on the same day makes me want to take a nap!

Angel wrote:She walked half and ran half.

Alternating periods of walking/running, no doubt. K, it doesn't seem so looney now. You, on the other hand...

verslibre wrote:

Angel wrote:She walked half and ran half.

Alternating periods of walking/running, no doubt. K, it doesn't seem so looney now. You, on the other hand...are the one that's freakin' awesome!

Ah, thanks!

Well, this is sometihng to talk about, at least, rather than having the constant banter about washed up 80's bands and some of their choices in mates.

That woman is amazing! And times have changed so much - it wasn't until 1972 that women were allowed to even enter and run in the Boston Marathon and that was 5 years after a race official tried to tackle Kathrine Switzer when he realized she was running in the race with an official number. 39 years later a woman runs the Chicago Marathon and then goes and gives birth - I guess we aren't too delicate to run long distances after all.

Angel, do you run strictly outside or combine your training with a treadmill? I have a treadmill that I use for walking (very icy and hilly here in the winter), but I want to start training for long distance running and I'll have to use the treadmill for much of that. If you cross-train, do you find you need different types of shoes for the treadmill and sidewalk?

Angel wrote:

verslibre wrote:First thing I thought. What the fuck is a pregnant woman — that far along, no less — doing running a MARATHON?

She's being freakin' awesome, that's what she's doing!
It's amazing that she ran a marathon...more amazing that she was 39 weeks pregnant and more amazing that she then gave birth on the same day she ran a marathon! I've done both and the mere thought of doing them on the same day makes me want to take a nap!

My mom exercised plenty while pregnant with me and my sisters (she was a college athlete, so she's always been very active). But, running a marathon? That really doesn't sound like the best idea to me. That seems way too intense. She could have gotten severely dehydrated, got muscle cramps (a nice charlie horse in the quad or calf plus labor contractions sounds like FUN), gotten a stress fracture, passed out and fell on the hard ground etc. Just sounds like one of those nutjobs who has an unhealthy obsession with exercise to me (and this is coming from someone who hits the gym 7 days a week).

And from what I saw on the ticker, she planned to run the entire thing and only started walking when her contractions started.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Angel wrote:

verslibre wrote:First thing I thought. What the fuck is a pregnant woman — that far along, no less — doing running a MARATHON?

She's being freakin' awesome, that's what she's doing!
It's amazing that she ran a marathon...more amazing that she was 39 weeks pregnant and more amazing that she then gave birth on the same day she ran a marathon! I've done both and the mere thought of doing them on the same day makes me want to take a nap!

My mom exercised plenty while pregnant with me and my sisters (she was a college athlete, so she's always been very active). But, running a marathon? That really doesn't sound like the best idea to me. That seems way too intense. She could have gotten severely dehydrated, got muscle cramps (a nice charlie horse in the quad or calf plus labor contractions sounds like FUN), gotten a stress fracture, passed out and fell on the hard ground etc. Just sounds like one of those nutjobs who has an unhealthy obsession with exercise to me (and this is coming from someone who hits the gym 7 days a week).

And from what I saw on the ticker, she planned to run the entire thing and only started walking when her contractions started.

Gotta agree with Matt here...Exercising while pregnant is supposed to be a good thing but running a marathon, even for a healthy non-pregnant person is extreme exercise.

Ehwmatt wrote:
My mom exercised plenty while pregnant with me and my sisters (she was a college athlete, so she's always been very active). But, running a marathon? That really doesn't sound like the best idea to me. That seems way too intense.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011 ... icago-race

A 35 year old man - a young, presumably healthy FIREFIGHTER - died doing this marathon, 500 yeards from the end. Granted, it's not the most common or likely occurance but it does happen, so yeah, while it may be technically speaking "safe" for a pregnant woman (who is otherwise fit and healthy and capable of running/jogging/walking) do do it, it doesn't mean it's the best idea.

Plus, this is really going to get me NO sympathy at all next time I'm too tired to do laundry or take a walk to Starbucks. "Oh suck it up honey, if that woman can run a marathon and give birth the same day..." Thanks a lot lady.

conversationpc wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Angel wrote:

verslibre wrote:First thing I thought. What the fuck is a pregnant woman — that far along, no less — doing running a MARATHON?

She's being freakin' awesome, that's what she's doing!
It's amazing that she ran a marathon...more amazing that she was 39 weeks pregnant and more amazing that she then gave birth on the same day she ran a marathon! I've done both and the mere thought of doing them on the same day makes me want to take a nap!

My mom exercised plenty while pregnant with me and my sisters (she was a college athlete, so she's always been very active). But, running a marathon? That really doesn't sound like the best idea to me. That seems way too intense. She could have gotten severely dehydrated, got muscle cramps (a nice charlie horse in the quad or calf plus labor contractions sounds like FUN), gotten a stress fracture, passed out and fell on the hard ground etc. Just sounds like one of those nutjobs who has an unhealthy obsession with exercise to me (and this is coming from someone who hits the gym 7 days a week).

And from what I saw on the ticker, she planned to run the entire thing and only started walking when her contractions started.

Gotta agree with Matt here...Exercising while pregnant is supposed to be a good thing but running a marathon, even for a healthy non-pregnant person is extreme exercise.

It's not extreme exercise at all. We've evolved into an obese, lazy society. We used to have to run around chasing our food all day long-now we drive up and order it at a window without even getting out of the car.

But I'll just take my Masters Degree in this area and shove it up my ass cuz you guys seem to have all the answers.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:
My mom exercised plenty while pregnant with me and my sisters (she was a college athlete, so she's always been very active). But, running a marathon? That really doesn't sound like the best idea to me. That seems way too intense.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011 ... icago-race

A 35 year old man - a young, presumably healthy FIREFIGHTER - died doing this marathon, 500 yeards from the end. Granted, it's not the most common or likely occurance but it does happen, so yeah, while it may be technically speaking "safe" for a pregnant woman (who is otherwise fit and healthy and capable of running/jogging/walking) do do it, it doesn't mean it's the best idea.

Plus, this is really going to get me NO sympathy at all next time I'm too tired to do laundry or take a walk to Starbucks. "Oh suck it up honey, if that woman can run a marathon and give birth the same day..." Thanks a lot lady.

This is what I was trying to say.

And Angel, be careful about pulling the "You're wrong because I'm an expert" card. For example, I do tech support. For the most part, I know more than the clients about the software I support. However, every once in a while, a client who knows less than I do might know something I don't or has a different opinion than I do about it. That doesn't mean they can't know something I don't about the software or disagree with me and not be wrong.

Angel wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Angel wrote:

verslibre wrote:First thing I thought. What the fuck is a pregnant woman — that far along, no less — doing running a MARATHON?

She's being freakin' awesome, that's what she's doing!
It's amazing that she ran a marathon...more amazing that she was 39 weeks pregnant and more amazing that she then gave birth on the same day she ran a marathon! I've done both and the mere thought of doing them on the same day makes me want to take a nap!

My mom exercised plenty while pregnant with me and my sisters (she was a college athlete, so she's always been very active). But, running a marathon? That really doesn't sound like the best idea to me. That seems way too intense. She could have gotten severely dehydrated, got muscle cramps (a nice charlie horse in the quad or calf plus labor contractions sounds like FUN), gotten a stress fracture, passed out and fell on the hard ground etc. Just sounds like one of those nutjobs who has an unhealthy obsession with exercise to me (and this is coming from someone who hits the gym 7 days a week).

And from what I saw on the ticker, she planned to run the entire thing and only started walking when her contractions started.

Gotta agree with Matt here...Exercising while pregnant is supposed to be a good thing but running a marathon, even for a healthy non-pregnant person is extreme exercise.

It's not extreme exercise at all. We've evolved into an obese, lazy society. We used to have to run around chasing our food all day long-now we drive up and order it at a window without even getting out of the car.

But I'll just take my Masters Degree in this area and shove it up my ass cuz you guys seem to have all the answers.

I'm with Kim just above you. I'll take my collegiate and nationally ranked athlete pedigree in this area and shove it up your ass . Distance running is one of the most taxing activities - it's high impact on the joints, straining on the muscles, very challenging cardiovascularly (whether trained or not), and one of the toughest activities around. A few people drop dead in every major marathon. Your obesity argument is a glaring red herring here.

Taking a brisk few mile jog for a trained runner while pregnant? GREAT! Running a marathon, regardless of who you are? Not so great. This bitch can do what she wants, but it was irresponsible.

I guess that kid "hit the ground running". Ha.


later~

She has more of a chance of killing herself & her baby in a car accidentthanby running a marathon so are you suggesting she not drive or ride in a car during her pregnancy either?

Angel wrote:She has more of a chance of killing herself & her baby in a car accidentthanby running a marathon so are you suggesting she not drive or ride in a car during her pregnancy either?

Again, another red herring just like the obesity argument. Presumably she needs to travel on public streets and highways to work, go to the doctor for her prenatal checkups, buy the necessities of life like groceries etc. Under no set of facts does she need to run a marathon. I think it's more of a "look at me" attention grab than anything. The point is, she could have exercised in the gym or done something less strenuous than running a marathon.

Let me ask you this. And put aside all of your science, statistics, and experience as a midwife.

INTUITIVELY, if you were her doctor, would you feel comfortable, morally and legally, telling her it's ok to run a marathon at 39 weeks pregnant?

I know if I were her doctor, I'd err on the side of caution there.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Angel wrote:She has more of a chance of killing herself & her baby in a car accidentthanby running a marathon so are you suggesting she not drive or ride in a car during her pregnancy either?

Again, another red herring just like the obesity argument. Presumably she needs to travel on public streets and highways to work, go to the doctor for her prenatal checkups, buy the necessities of life like groceries etc. Under no set of facts does she need to run a marathon. I think it's more of a "look at me" attention grab than anything. The point is, she could have exercised in the gym or done something less strenuous than running a marathon.

Let me ask you this. And put aside all of your science, statistics, and experience as a midwife.

INTUITIVELY, if you were her doctor, would you feel comfortable, morally and legally, telling her it's ok to run a marathon at 39 weeks pregnant?

I know if I were her doctor, I'd err on the side of caution there.

This is her field so she is not gonna let you "win " this one, even though youre absolutely correct !

I'm not impressed. This is a fucking race and her time sucked. She was nothing more than a giant inconvenience to run around. The "Hey, look at me" type of person. It took her over 6 fucking hours to finish and I'm supposed to be impressed?!? Next time, kneel at the finish and give blowjobs to every man that finishes under 4 hours. That would impress me.

Saint John wrote:I'm not impressed. This is a fucking race and her time sucked. She was nothing more than a giant inconvenience to run around. The "Hey, look at me" type of person. It took her over 6 fucking hours to finish and I'm supposed to be impressed?!? Next time, kneel at the finish and give blowjobs to every man that finishes under 4 hours. That would impress me.

I shouldn't laugh at this but couldn't help it.

Angel wrote:She has more of a chance of killing herself & her baby in a car accidentthanby running a marathon so are you suggesting she not drive or ride in a car during her pregnancy either?

That's an extreme example. There is risk in everything. She could just as easily slip and fall in her kitchen or take a spill down the stairs, so should she stay on one floor of her home for 40 weeks or buy a ground level home when she becomes pregnant? No. You can't avoid the risks of everyday life, but you do need to be more cautious and maybe not do some of the things you would otherwise do. But... the marathon was not an everyday, unavoidable risk. The marathon was not mandatory and the marathon will be there next year.

I mean hey, her doc gave her the ok, and she did it and it all worked out fine, so that's great. For me personally, I'm all for exercise and whatnot during pregnancy but something like a marathon, no, it wouldn't be worth the risk of having something happen to the baby.

Here's what a pediatrician with 36 years of practice said about her running the race:

"Are you people familiar with the concept of a stillborn? Babies not infrequently die in utero right at the end of pregnancy, presumably at times from lack of adequate blood flow to the placenta. I think it is highly irresponsible for any physician to recommend such a long and strenuous course of action at 39 weeks, where blood clearly must be diverted from the placenta to her muscles. No one, I repeat, no one could assure her that this was a safe choice."

Saint John wrote:I'm not impressed. This is a fucking race and her time sucked. She was nothing more than a giant inconvenience to run around. The "Hey, look at me" type of person. It took her over 6 fucking hours to finish and I'm supposed to be impressed?!? Next time, kneel at the finish and give blowjobs to every man that finishes under 4 hours. That would impress me.

Saint John wrote:Here's what a pediatrician with 36 years of practice said about her running the race:

"Are you people familiar with the concept of a stillborn? Babies not infrequently die in utero right at the end of pregnancy, presumably at times from lack of adequate blood flow to the placenta. I think it is highly irresponsible for any physician to recommend such a long and strenuous course of action at 39 weeks, where blood clearly must be diverted from the placenta to her muscles. No one, I repeat, no one could assure her that this was a safe choice."

Excellent addition to Dave's point above that school degree/professional licensing qualifications are not the sine qua non of someone being right. Just like you can look hard enough for a lawyer to bring a frivolous case for you, you can find quack doctors to recommend asinine and dangerous things for you.

In the end, I think there's an important question to ask yourself. And that question is "Did this woman participate in the marathon, while pregnant, for the benefit of her health and/or the benefit of her child ... or did she participate in the marathon for reasons of self indulgence?" And I think the answer is pretty fucking clear.

Finally, something worth reading in this fucking morgue-like site. I can literally hear Natalie pushing out a shit the size of Boise to drop on Dan's neatly combed dome. She gets backed into a corner she is a rabid dog. I, would never even consider taking on the likes of her when she is enraged. St John beware.

Blow jobs for all men at the finish line? Where the fuck do we sign up for this? I'd finish the marathon for sure, either way.