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WET

Posted:
Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:59 pm
by yulog

Posted:
Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:26 pm
by YoungJRNY
Dealing with issues? Sick or anything? 'My Everything' was barely watchable. I grimaced more than I did on Augeri's last day with the band when he sang live and when his voice was shredded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQPVxCv ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKlc0pmY ... re=related
'One Love': He flubs the opening then it seems like his voice gives out at 1:16. JSS is clearly struggling out there. Hope everything's okay with his voice.

Posted:
Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:02 pm
by Ehwmatt
Damn. Saw some other vids and thought they sounded a little off. But some of these, as Trav said, hearken back to 2005 just before Tapegate. Jeff VISIBLY struggled in One Love.
I think the WET material might honestly be pushing him a little too hard. A lot of it is at the very top end of his voice.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:11 am
by G.I.Jim
While he may have been having a slightly off-night, I think most of what is throwing you guys off is the backing vocals. They just aren't that great and to me they distract me from the lead. I wouldn't fault Jeff much on this.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:27 am
by Ehwmatt
G.I.Jim wrote:While he may have been having a slightly off-night, I think most of what is throwing you guys off is the backing vocals. They just aren't that great and to me they distract me from the lead. I wouldn't fault Jeff much on this.
Nah man, the backing vocals are off. But he definitely sounds strained. Listen again. I know you've got a good ear. WATCH between 1:14 and 1:18 of One Love. He literally strains, grimaces, and pulls back from the mic. He's also screaming/strained on a lot of different parts.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:38 am
by Joe Vana
Ehwmatt wrote:G.I.Jim wrote:While he may have been having a slightly off-night, I think most of what is throwing you guys off is the backing vocals. They just aren't that great and to me they distract me from the lead. I wouldn't fault Jeff much on this.
Nah man, the backing vocals are off. But he definitely sounds strained. Listen again. I know you've got a good ear. WATCH between 1:14 and 1:18 of One Love. He literally strains, grimaces, and pulls back from the mic. He's also screaming/strained on a lot of different parts.
Jeff may have had a bad night....but as a true pro he still had the audience eating it up....he is one of the best front men out there!!!
JMHO......JV

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:25 am
by Pelata
The backing vocals and the crowd singing are almost completely obscuring JSS on the choruses...can't judge a thing by the initial post video...JSS sounded perfectly fine on the verses...then on the choruses I hear backing vocals, crowd and hardly any JSS at all...

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:27 am
by Tito
Everyone's going to laugh, since I'm the big Jeff defender

, but I didn't think it sounded that bad. I didn't detect anything wrong. It sounded normal to me.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:45 am
by Yoda
I got interrupted so I'll have to go back and listen to the rest, but from what I heard, the stuff that was "off" were the backing vocals.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:21 am
by Rick
Yeah, the backing vocals and crowd are messing that up. Jeff sounds good as always. And if that was their first live show, you can't expect it to be perfect.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:36 am
by Don
Did the guy filming start singing halfway through?

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:45 am
by Jeremey
I listened to the original Brothers In Arms vid, then If I Fall and One Love....Sounded to me like Brothers In Arms was the first song of the night (don't know for sure?) but the only issue I'm hearing is that Jeff is having trouble finding the pitch center just because of the choppy rhythm of the verse, and of course, walking out on a stage having never sang the song live before in front of an audience. If I Fall and One Love sounded fine to me, are people really that picky? LOL. I believe Jeff got on a plane from Sweden in the wee hours of the morning of this gig and went out to sing later in what looks to be like a typical outdoor crap environment to sing in. He sounded pretty great to me, LOL. The pitch issues of the BGV are more related to monitoring, which you run into on a typical festival gig.
That being said, I love that JSS is looking like my old idol TTD these days, haha. Looks like it was a great show.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:24 pm
by Deb
Pelata wrote:The backing vocals and the crowd singing are almost completely obscuring JSS on the choruses...can't judge a thing by the initial post video...JSS sounded perfectly fine on the verses...then on the choruses I hear backing vocals, crowd and hardly any JSS at all...
Bingo. I posted the exact same thing in the Firefest thread a few days ago. He sounds great on the verses, but the backing vocals are mixed too high in the chorus for me, can barely hear Jeff's pipes.
If I Fall ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpdsVK7E ... re=related
.....is definitely very cool to see performed live. Love his delivery on that! Especially that first verse! Always performs with such passion on the rockers and soul on the ballads. Regardless, I agree with Joe Vana, one of the best live frontmen out there........he is still one of ONLY two frontmen/vocalists that I will/have put my travel $$ down on to cross the border to see LIVE!

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:33 pm
by AR
Their first gig. Everyone knew it would have some issues. Personally I would have loved to have been there. Like I said in a previous post Boston SUCKED live in the 70's. Took them years to figure out how to replicate their sound in a live setting. At least WET has backing vocals.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:26 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
The choruses seem a little too high for him to reach. That's ok. He kills on the mid-range stuff and that's where his voice comfortably sits anyway. It took time for him to get *up there* for Journey's shows. I didn't expect him to kill the WET material out of the gate.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:41 pm
by Rockindeano
Yoda wrote:I got interrupted so I'll have to go back and listen to the rest, but from what I heard, the stuff that was "off" were the backing vocals.
Don't you fucking hate that? when you are getting close, almost ready to explode, and the door has a knock on it...or God forbid your 3 yr old walks in on you? Yep, happens to all of us dude.

Posted:
Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:33 pm
by Gideon
Rockindeano wrote:Yoda wrote:I got interrupted so I'll have to go back and listen to the rest, but from what I heard, the stuff that was "off" were the backing vocals.
Don't you fucking hate that? when you are getting close, almost ready to explode, and the door has a knock on it...or God forbid your 3 yr old walks in on you? Yep, happens to all of us dude.
Were you watching the Firefest videos at the time of your near-eruption?


Posted:
Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:56 am
by Babyblue
Rick wrote:Yeah, the backing vocals and crowd are messing that up. Jeff sounds good as always. And if that was their first live show, you can't expect it to be perfect.
I agree with you Rick.

JSS Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!! I would love to see him & the band live.


Posted:
Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:48 am
by Yoda
Rockindeano wrote:Yoda wrote:I got interrupted so I'll have to go back and listen to the rest, but from what I heard, the stuff that was "off" were the backing vocals.
Don't you fucking hate that? when you are getting close, almost ready to explode, and the door has a knock on it...or God forbid your 3 yr old walks in on you? Yep, happens to all of us dude.

You know, I don't put that "Do Not Disturb" sign on my door just for the fun of it!


Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:53 am
by Deb
Jeremey wrote:I listened to the original Brothers In Arms vid, then If I Fall and One Love....Sounded to me like Brothers In Arms was the first song of the night (don't know for sure?) but the only issue I'm hearing is that Jeff is having trouble finding the pitch center just because of the choppy rhythm of the verse, and of course, walking out on a stage having never sang the song live before in front of an audience. If I Fall and One Love sounded fine to me, are people really that picky? LOL. I believe Jeff got on a plane from Sweden in the wee hours of the morning of this gig and went out to sing later in what looks to be like a typical outdoor crap environment to sing in. He sounded pretty great to me, LOL. The pitch issues of the BGV are more related to monitoring, which you run into on a typical festival gig.
That being said, I love that JSS is looking like my old idol TTD these days, haha. Looks like it was a great show.
Yeah he is, isn't he!


Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:56 am
by Ehwmatt
Deb wrote:Jeremey wrote:I listened to the original Brothers In Arms vid, then If I Fall and One Love....Sounded to me like Brothers In Arms was the first song of the night (don't know for sure?) but the only issue I'm hearing is that Jeff is having trouble finding the pitch center just because of the choppy rhythm of the verse, and of course, walking out on a stage having never sang the song live before in front of an audience. If I Fall and One Love sounded fine to me, are people really that picky? LOL. I believe Jeff got on a plane from Sweden in the wee hours of the morning of this gig and went out to sing later in what looks to be like a typical outdoor crap environment to sing in. He sounded pretty great to me, LOL. The pitch issues of the BGV are more related to monitoring, which you run into on a typical festival gig.
That being said, I love that JSS is looking like my old idol TTD these days, haha. Looks like it was a great show.
Yeah he is, isn't he!

I preferred the 06 look he had with Journey. Fit his overall style/music more.
Re: WET

Posted:
Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:40 am
by MichaelRiesenbeck
yulog wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im1eMohx_GE&feature=related

Thats a shame.
The one being off key is the bassist, not Jeff. The bassist has more vocal issues on the show. Just check out the WOA clip.

Posted:
Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:59 am
by conversationpc
AR wrote:Like I said in a previous post Boston SUCKED live in the 70's. Took them years to figure out how to replicate their sound in a live setting.
Boy, their sound was incredible when I saw them in 2002 or 2003. One of the best sounding shows I've ever heard. Of course, they had about SIX guitarists onstage.


Posted:
Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:02 am
by Rick
conversationpc wrote:AR wrote:Like I said in a previous post Boston SUCKED live in the 70's. Took them years to figure out how to replicate their sound in a live setting.
Boy, their sound was incredible when I saw them in 2002 or 2003. One of the best sounding shows I've ever heard. Of course, they had about SIX guitarists onstage.

Never got to see them. Man I regret that.
Re: WET

Posted:
Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:56 am
by yulog
MichaelRiesenbeck wrote:yulog wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im1eMohx_GE&feature=related

Thats a shame.
The one being off key is the bassist, not Jeff. The bassist has more vocal issues on the show. Just check out the WOA clip.
There's more than 1 person that sounds "off " during the chorus

, it sounds terrible.(and for the best part of the song to be that off just ruins it, they should have just piped in those parts)