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Great Article on "so called" Rock and Roll HOF

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:06 am
by hoagiepete
Not sure anyone could write much of a better article than the following on the joke called the Rock n Roll HOF.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -the-rock/

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:28 am
by DrFU
Good find, Hoagie. Guy dies a good job of explaining the absurdity.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:38 am
by Rip Rokken
Excellent article, and hits right at the source. Just saw another a few days ago where the band War was offended for being passed up while the Beastie Boys were inducted. The RaRHOF should have the decency to change their name if they can't muster the integrity to make common sense choices. They are truly offensive.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:06 am
by Andrew
Only 1 problem here - the HOS (Hall Of Shit) don't care what anyone thinks.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:09 am
by Maui Tom
be great if WAR got in...this is one of those groups with 4 or 5 original members who can't tour under the WAR name and one guy who can.....

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:18 am
by verslibre
Rush, the band every critic loves to hate, was snubbed again this year — a streak that’s now nearing Ron Santo/Susan Lucci-like levels of absurdity. Nearly 40 years after the Canadian power trio released their first album, the classic rock radio staple is still recording new music, still touring — with all the original members — and still packing huge venues around the world. Rush has 14 platinum albums — 14!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:34 am
by Rockindeano
Laughable. All you here who complain about the rock Hall is funny.

Everybody in the HOF is deserving. There are some acts that should be there well ahead of Journey. Ever heard of Lynard Skynard? Chicago? Hell, the E Street Band isn't in(Bruce is of course, but the band isn't due to technicality, and they are 5 times the band Journey is.

But to hear you all cry and call it "shit" and a "joke" just reeks of jealousy. Carry on.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:37 am
by conversationpc
verslibre wrote:
Rush, the band every critic loves to hate, was snubbed again this year — a streak that’s now nearing Ron Santo/Susan Lucci-like levels of absurdity. Nearly 40 years after the Canadian power trio released their first album, the classic rock radio staple is still recording new music, still touring — with all the original members — and still packing huge venues around the world. Rush has 14 platinum albums — 14!


I don't get it...Them and KISS are probably the two biggest snubs. Both have sold hundreds of millions of albums worldwide and, other than Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, and The Who, have influenced more other acts than just about anyone.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:37 am
by Maui Tom
Rockindeano wrote:Laughable. All you here who complain about the rock Hall is funny.

Everybody in the HOF is deserving. There are some acts that should be there well ahead of Journey. Ever heard of Lynard Skynard? Chicago? Hell, the E Street Band isn't in(Bruce is of course, but the band isn't due to technicality, and they are 5 times the band Journey is.

But to hear you all cry and call it "shit" and a "joke" just reeks of jealousy. Carry on.


Lynyrd Skynyrd

masturbate...

:)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:38 am
by conversationpc
Rockindeano wrote:Laughable. All you here who complain about the rock Hall is funny.

Everybody in the HOF is deserving. There are some acts that should be there well ahead of Journey. Ever heard of Lynard Skynard? Chicago? Hell, the E Street Band isn't in(Bruce is of course, but the band isn't due to technicality, and they are 5 times the band Journey is.

But to hear you all cry and call it "shit" and a "joke" just reeks of jealousy. Carry on.


At least learn how to spell Lynyrd Skynyrd.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:26 pm
by AR
The biggest snubs as I see it:

KISS
Hall & Oates
Rush
Chicago
The Moody Blues
Deep Purple

I think Eric Clapton (the Rolling Stone media darling) is in 3 different times. :lol: Yet the E Street band got overlooked when Springsteen got in?

Irrelevant. Just makes for some head scratching once a year.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:47 pm
by Rockindeano
AR wrote:The biggest snubs as I see it:

KISS
Hall & Oates
Rush
Chicago
The Moody Blues
Deep Purple



Agreed on all accounts. I would even put Journey in there. They were pretty good for 6 or 7 years. But Foreigner? Fuck no. Heart? Nope.

I think Eric Clapton (the Rolling Stone media darling) is in 3 different times. :lol: Yet the E Street band got overlooked when Springsteen got in?
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Elvis is in three times, or rather he is in the RnR HOF, the Country HOF and the Gospel HOF. I would say Bruce and Bono are RS's darlings. It IS overboard, I can admit that, but it's not their fault. Dave Marsh is too Bruce and not enough other acts IMO, yet he is an influence in the inductee happenings, as is Steve Van Zandt, who really pushes for the smaller less named acts.

Not sure why the E Street Band didn't go in with Bruce. He was inducted in 99 I believe and they were broken up, but still, to not have perhaps the best band to ever step on a stage together not get in is in fact head scratching. Three amazing guitar players, of which bruce is the worst of all, the best saxophonist ever in C, and the incredible rythym section of Max and Garry? Bruce has said this is his biggest regret in life..not just music, but life.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:03 pm
by Ehwmatt
AR wrote:The biggest snubs as I see it:

KISS
Hall & Oates
Rush
Chicago
The Moody Blues
Deep Purple

I think Eric Clapton (the Rolling Stone media darling) is in 3 different times. :lol: Yet the E Street band got overlooked when Springsteen got in?

Irrelevant. Just makes for some head scratching once a year.


Pretty good list. But I'd add subtract Kiss and add The Guess Who in there. They started it all for canadian rockers and are pretty legendary in their own right. Tons of hits that go back to the 60s and early 70s. American Woman, Laughing, These Eyes, Undun, No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature, Share The Land etc.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:07 pm
by AR
Ehwmatt wrote:
AR wrote:The biggest snubs as I see it:

KISS
Hall & Oates
Rush
Chicago
The Moody Blues
Deep Purple

I think Eric Clapton (the Rolling Stone media darling) is in 3 different times. :lol: Yet the E Street band got overlooked when Springsteen got in?

Irrelevant. Just makes for some head scratching once a year.


Pretty good list. But I'd add subtract Kiss and add The Guess Who in there. They started it all for canadian rockers and are pretty legendary in their own right. Tons of hits that go back to the 60s and early 70s. American Woman, Laughing, These Eyes, Undun, No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature, Share The Land etc.
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Nothing against The Guess Who, but millions more have seen KISS live. I actually saw The Guess Who live once but without Burton Cummings (who is touring next year)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:08 pm
by Ehwmatt
AR wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
AR wrote:The biggest snubs as I see it:

KISS
Hall & Oates
Rush
Chicago
The Moody Blues
Deep Purple

I think Eric Clapton (the Rolling Stone media darling) is in 3 different times. :lol: Yet the E Street band got overlooked when Springsteen got in?

Irrelevant. Just makes for some head scratching once a year.


Pretty good list. But I'd add subtract Kiss and add The Guess Who in there. They started it all for canadian rockers and are pretty legendary in their own right. Tons of hits that go back to the 60s and early 70s. American Woman, Laughing, These Eyes, Undun, No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature, Share The Land etc.
''

Nothing against The Guess Who, but millions more have seen KISS live


Keep Kiss and add The Guess Who. They are as deserving as anyone.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:11 pm
by Rockindeano
AR wrote:Nothing against The Guess Who, but millions more have seen KISS live. I actually saw The Guess Who live once but without Burton Cummings (who is touring next year)


The question is just how live was KISS? LOL

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:47 pm
by AR
Rockindeano wrote:
AR wrote:Nothing against The Guess Who, but millions more have seen KISS live. I actually saw The Guess Who live once but without Burton Cummings (who is touring next year)


The question is just how live was KISS? LOL


I can play you some instant live CD's from 2004 to present with Paul Stanley's destroyed voice that will show you how live it is. :wink:

They lip on TV (Leno, Super Bowl) like many do, but not in concert.

Anything not sound live here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL9NRVEb2yQ

Thankfully Paul Stanley had vocal surgery recently. Last couple of tours have been rough.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:00 pm
by ebake02
The only reason Guns made it in is because Rolling Stone is hoping for a reunion which will undoubtedly sell a shit load of tickets.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:07 pm
by steveo777
ebake02 wrote:The only reason Guns made it in is because Rolling Stone is hoping for a reunion which will undoubtedly sell a shit load of tickets.


That's a bullshit argument, if you think about it. Speculation of a Perry / Journey reunion ought to do the same thing, so your assumption is null.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:08 pm
by JohnH
The elitist idiots running the hall of shame are the same ones that make lists that put Springsteen and Cobain as 100 greatest "guitarists" while leaving off people like Tom Scholz, Vai, Morse, Malmsteen, Satriani Mcalpine, etc.... and putting Blackmore at number 50.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:59 pm
by ebake02
steveo777 wrote:
ebake02 wrote:The only reason Guns made it in is because Rolling Stone is hoping for a reunion which will undoubtedly sell a shit load of tickets.


That's a bullshit argument, if you think about it. Speculation of a Perry / Journey reunion ought to do the same thing, so your assumption is null.


No it's not, Rolling Stone hates Journey remember. Both parties could come right out and say they were reuniting and they still wouldn't get in.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:39 am
by conversationpc
JohnH wrote:The elitist idiots running the hall of shame are the same ones that make lists that put Springsteen and Cobain as 100 greatest "guitarists" while leaving off people like Tom Scholz, Vai, Morse, Malmsteen, Satriani Mcalpine, etc.... and putting Blackmore at number 50.


I agree with all those you noted who were left off. However, Blackmore is an amazing guitarist and probably deserves better than #50.