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Prometheus

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:09 am
by Jeremey
I saw this at a midnight showing last night and it was flat out awesome. I was so happy to see a movie that actually didn't disappoint me with all the hype and mystery leading up to it...it seems like so many times these sort of "re-imagined" prequels or reboots are such let downs. I was blown away, and while I agree with some of the criticisms of the script, I can't recommend it enough. Visually it's hands down the greatest spectacle since Avatar (probably exceeding it IMO), and Scott was able to retain the spirit of the original film while still making a completely new and original installment in the Alien mythos.

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:29 am
by brandonx76
I'm going to hold you to that....looking fwd to this one, don't want it to be typical sci-fi schlock...(not that I don't enjoy that, but this one has a lot of hype for all the right reasons)

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:38 am
by brandonx76
btw, i watched Alien with the Mrs's last night, she'd never seen it before - scared the crap out of her - gripping my hand the whole time - got some good scares in ...hahaha....


Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:10 am
by Jeremey
brandonx76 wrote:btw, i watched Alien with the Mrs's last night, she'd never seen it before - scared the crap out of her - gripping my hand the whole time - got some good scares in ...hahaha....

Haha I watched it again Wednesday night...Prometheus is not the same kind of "horror" as Alien or the action type movies of Cameron or Fincher, it's more of an epic and universal film. There were some real cringe worthy moments (in a good way), and some genuine thrills that matched the best parts of the first film...I think some of the writing was dumb along the lines of "what are you doing you dumbass!!?" but there are also questions and motivations left unanswered that will really stick with you long after the film ends.

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:41 am
by tater1977
'Prometheus' Reviews: Ridley Scott's Blockbuster Gets Positive Notices From Critics
The Huffington Post
(read full article)..
ttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07 ... tent=Photo
"Ridley Scott's 'Prometheus' is a magnificent science-fiction film, all the more intriguing because it raises questions about the origin of human life and doesn't have the answers," Ebert writes in his four-star Chicago Sun-Times review. "This puzzle is embedded in an adventure film that has staggering visuals, expert horror, mind-challenging ideas and enough unanswered questions to prime the inevitable sequel."
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Best quote on tweeter bird so far...
@colliderfrosty
Steven Weintraub
#PROMETHEUS is the type of big budget sci-fi that studios rarely make. Extremely well done. Don't read reviews. Just go see it

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:47 am
by brandonx76
tater1977 wrote:#PROMETHEUS is the type of big budget sci-fi that studios rarely make. Extremely well done. Don't read reviews. Just go see it
To quote Rush:
So much style without substance,
So much stuff without style,
It's hard to recognize the real thing,
It comes along once in a while

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:56 am
by slucero
I hear the visual effects are pretty stunning...

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:05 am
by Monker
Jeremey wrote:brandonx76 wrote:btw, i watched Alien with the Mrs's last night, she'd never seen it before - scared the crap out of her - gripping my hand the whole time - got some good scares in ...hahaha....

Haha I watched it again Wednesday night...Prometheus is not the same kind of "horror" as Alien or the action type movies of Cameron or Fincher, it's more of an epic and universal film. There were some real cringe worthy moments (in a good way), and some genuine thrills that matched the best parts of the first film...I think some of the writing was dumb along the lines of "what are you doing you dumbass!!?" but there are also questions and motivations left unanswered that will really stick with you long after the film ends.
It'a actually a prequel to Alien and not really a reimagining...and he may do a sequel to the prequel. From what I understand, this doesn't leave off where Alien picked up.

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:37 am
by Don
Monker wrote:Jeremey wrote:brandonx76 wrote:btw, i watched Alien with the Mrs's last night, she'd never seen it before - scared the crap out of her - gripping my hand the whole time - got some good scares in ...hahaha....

Haha I watched it again Wednesday night...Prometheus is not the same kind of "horror" as Alien or the action type movies of Cameron or Fincher, it's more of an epic and universal film. There were some real cringe worthy moments (in a good way), and some genuine thrills that matched the best parts of the first film...I think some of the writing was dumb along the lines of "what are you doing you dumbass!!?" but there are also questions and motivations left unanswered that will really stick with you long after the film ends.
It'a actually a prequel to Alien and not really a reimagining...and he may do a sequel to the prequel. From what I understand, this doesn't leave off where Alien picked up.
Isn't it something along the lines of being in the same universe as Alien but while Nostromo was off in one direction, this takes place somewhere different? Also the time lines are probably non parallel because of crews going into stasis while they're traveling.

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:42 am
by Jeremey
Not to give anything away but it is not a prequel or a reboot, I just used those terms to compare to other movies that had done that and came up short. Prometheus if anything would be a prequel to a prequel maybe? It's like if somebody made a movie about your great great grandparents. That wouldn't really be a "prequel" to YOUR movie but that's the best way I can describe the Prometheus concept.

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:37 pm
by Monker
Jeremey wrote:Not to give anything away but it is not a prequel or a reboot, I just used those terms to compare to other movies that had done that and came up short. Prometheus if anything would be a prequel to a prequel maybe? It's like if somebody made a movie about your great great grandparents. That wouldn't really be a "prequel" to YOUR movie but that's the best way I can describe the Prometheus concept.
No, it's a prequel.
If you think about Alien, they land on that moon and find the alien ship that has the eggs in it. It's a prequel to kinda explain where that alien ship came from. Prometheus takes place on another moon supposedly orbiting the same planet.
You're right in that it stands on it's own merit...and to understand how it relates to Alien, you have to read what Ridley Scott says about it...not all of it is directly explained in the movie. A lot of things are left up to the viewers to fill in the blanks, or for the next movie.

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:11 pm
by Jeremey
Sure, well, like I said, a prequel to a prequel. There's still about 90 years left until Alien kicks in and the end of Prometheus is very much a set up for another film, but let's not quibble over semantics here, LOL.

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:34 pm
by Don
From what I read, Prometheus takes place in 2093 and Alien happens in 2122. Maybe the film elaborates more on the dates?
The viral video that introduces us to a young Weyland is about a hundred years before Alien though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb7gspHx ... re=related
Not sure when the David video takes place, I assume 2093 but it could be earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvXKN5Fz ... re=related

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:19 am
by Jeremey
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18298709
Has anyone else seen this movie? I actually am thinking the box office is not going to be that great on this film.

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:20 am
by Ehwmatt
Jeremey wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18298709
Has anyone else seen this movie? I actually am thinking the box office is not going to be that great on this film.
I am going to soon. Heard nothing but great things so far

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:43 am
by Don
Jeremey wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18298709
Has anyone else seen this movie? I actually am thinking the box office is not going to be that great on this film.
It's projected for a first weekend total of 50 million. It's hurt by its R-Rating and having to go up against Madagascar 3. It's at about 25 million already.

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:49 pm
by Monker
Don wrote:Jeremey wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18298709
Has anyone else seen this movie? I actually am thinking the box office is not going to be that great on this film.
It's projected for a first weekend total of 50 million. It's hurt by its R-Rating and having to go up against Madagascar 3. It's at about 25 million already.
That's ridiculous....an animated movie for kids is not going to hurt the sales for a R rated sci-fi movie. "Snow White and the Huntsman" is it's biggest competition - and it's also a very good movie. I also see Prometheus as having 'legs', as neal would say...unless you were paying attention, you would never know this was an Alien movie - until the recent promotion.

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:26 pm
by Don
Friday night totals:
Prometheus - 21.4 million
Madagascar3 - 20.4 million
Snow White - 7.5 million

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:02 pm
by verslibre
Don wrote:Monker wrote:Jeremey wrote:brandonx76 wrote:btw, i watched Alien with the Mrs's last night, she'd never seen it before - scared the crap out of her - gripping my hand the whole time - got some good scares in ...hahaha....

Haha I watched it again Wednesday night...Prometheus is not the same kind of "horror" as Alien or the action type movies of Cameron or Fincher, it's more of an epic and universal film. There were some real cringe worthy moments (in a good way), and some genuine thrills that matched the best parts of the first film...I think some of the writing was dumb along the lines of "what are you doing you dumbass!!?" but there are also questions and motivations left unanswered that will really stick with you long after the film ends.
It'a actually a prequel to Alien and not really a reimagining...and he may do a sequel to the prequel. From what I understand, this doesn't leave off where Alien picked up.
Isn't it something along the lines of being in the same universe as Alien but while Nostromo was off in one direction, this takes place somewhere different? Also the time lines are probably non parallel because of crews going into stasis while they're traveling.
I just saw the movie tonight and it rocks. It is a standalone movie that takes place in the Alien "universe", but it is not a direct prequel to the original 1979 film. The first scene of the film becomes more relevant towards the end. You should see it ASAP so it isn't spoiled for you.

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:05 pm
by verslibre
Don wrote:From what I read, Prometheus takes place in 2093 and Alien happens in 2122. Maybe the film elaborates more on the dates?
If you really need to know...
[SPOILER ALERT]
Christmas Day, 2093 through New Year's Day, 2094.

Posted:
Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:57 am
by TRAGChick

Posted:
Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:19 am
by verslibre
I know, that particular scene was lame, but it isn't a perfect movie. Still a good one, though.

Posted:
Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:44 am
by AR
I'm on vacation in Ocean City, MD this week. Considering checking this flick out on one of the inevitable rain days.

Posted:
Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:28 am
by Jeremey
As I suspected Madagascar 3 took top spot, I knew the R rating would play against it and also I'd been seeing quite a few neck beards in a nerd rage on Reddit this weekend about lame writing. Also went to a 2nd 10 PM showing on Friday night and the theatre was about 40% full, which was NOT a good sign, LOL. Seems a lot of people wanted a black and white story where everything was spelled out for them. Whether it was lazy writing or intentionally vague and open-to-interpretation writing, it didn't bother me (1/2 of the writing team is the guy responsible for "Lost," which I DID classify as lazy writing). Alien itself wasn't exactly Shakespeare, some people forget that. It certainly did leave a lot of people talking about the film and asking questions, so job well done there.
Bottom line, for me, I guess I see it in the same way I look at Jurassic Park...It was pretty amazing visually, and a great movie going experience but it isn't necessarily a movie that will be held up in sacred company many years down the road.

Posted:
Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:37 am
by DrFU
Jeremey wrote:As I suspected Madagascar 3 took top spot, I knew the R rating would play against it and also I'd been seeing quite a few neck beards in a nerd rage on Reddit this weekend about lame writing. Also went to a 2nd 10 PM showing on Friday night and the theatre was about 40% full, which was NOT a good sign, LOL. Seems a lot of people wanted a black and white story where everything was spelled out for them. Whether it was lazy writing or intentionally vague and open-to-interpretation writing, it didn't bother me (1/2 of the writing team is the guy responsible for "Lost," which I DID classify as lazy writing). Alien itself wasn't exactly Shakespeare, some people forget that. It certainly did leave a lot of people talking about the film and asking questions, so job well done there.
Bottom line, for me, I guess I see it in the same way I look at Jurassic Park...It was pretty amazing visually, and a great movie going experience but it isn't necessarily a movie that will be held up in sacred company many years down the road.
Madagascar 3 was silly as shit ... But it does have a big chunk of "Any Way You Want It" in it.

Posted:
Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:34 am
by S2M
Most people don't 'get' the Alien movies....especially the one with 'Bishop'. It's all about Archetypes, and mythology. Please brush up on Joseph Campbell's works.


Posted:
Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:18 am
by brandonx76
Jeremey wrote:As I suspected Madagascar 3 took top spot, I knew the R rating would play against it and also I'd been seeing quite a few neck beards in a nerd rage on Reddit this weekend about lame writing. Also went to a 2nd 10 PM showing on Friday night and the theatre was about 40% full, which was NOT a good sign, LOL. Seems a lot of people wanted a black and white story where everything was spelled out for them. Whether it was lazy writing or intentionally vague and open-to-interpretation writing, it didn't bother me (1/2 of the writing team is the guy responsible for "Lost," which I DID classify as lazy writing). Alien itself wasn't exactly Shakespeare, some people forget that. It certainly did leave a lot of people talking about the film and asking questions, so job well done there.
Bottom line, for me, I guess I see it in the same way I look at Jurassic Park...It was pretty amazing visually, and a great movie going experience but it isn't necessarily a movie that will be held up in sacred company many years down the road.
Neck beards - LOL...for sure...
Didn't realize the LOST writer was involved...couldn't get into that show because of the obscure writing...but, perhaps there was some connective tissue between what we see and what we don't...
Check out this write up, some great points -
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

Posted:
Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:25 am
by S2M
brandonx76 wrote:Jeremey wrote:As I suspected Madagascar 3 took top spot, I knew the R rating would play against it and also I'd been seeing quite a few neck beards in a nerd rage on Reddit this weekend about lame writing. Also went to a 2nd 10 PM showing on Friday night and the theatre was about 40% full, which was NOT a good sign, LOL. Seems a lot of people wanted a black and white story where everything was spelled out for them. Whether it was lazy writing or intentionally vague and open-to-interpretation writing, it didn't bother me (1/2 of the writing team is the guy responsible for "Lost," which I DID classify as lazy writing). Alien itself wasn't exactly Shakespeare, some people forget that. It certainly did leave a lot of people talking about the film and asking questions, so job well done there.
Bottom line, for me, I guess I see it in the same way I look at Jurassic Park...It was pretty amazing visually, and a great movie going experience but it isn't necessarily a movie that will be held up in sacred company many years down the road.
Neck beards - LOL...for sure...
Didn't realize the LOST writer was involved...couldn't get into that show because of the obscure writing...but, perhaps there was some connective tissue between what we see and what we don't...
Check out this write up, some great points -
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1
If you ever watch Stefon from Weekend Update(SNL) - they are called FURTLENECKS. LMAO!

Posted:
Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:29 am
by brandonx76
S2M wrote:If you ever watch Stefon from Weekend Update(SNL) - they are called FURTLENECKS. LMAO!
how come that guy can't get through that skit w/out cracking up?

Posted:
Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:17 am
by Abitaman
Never was a LOST fan.....
Alien was good, Aliens was Great, Alien 3 Sucked, and 4 was ok. They lost their way after 2.