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Well,what did he look like before?

I thought he was bald for some reason

"This is creepy and disgusting."

I couldn't agree more, as a huge Boston fan this sickens me. Makes me realize TS never
gave a crap about Brad, I bought my last ticket with Brads last tour, really disgusting.

I am listening to one of Brad Delp's last performances from 06. There is NO comparison between the two. From what I am hearing the guy still had it and then some. While I am sure this De Carlo guy is a nice enough guy, there is a certain vocal timber that is lacking. While a great singer in his own right, it just not the same and in my eyes still very karokeesqu.

Pretty misguided and tasteless. Perryfans used to claim that Augeri tried to look like Perry, which was, of course, stupid. If anything, the red leather pants was stolen from Mike Reno.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Pretty misguided and tasteless. Perryfans used to claim that Augeri tried to look like Perry, which was, of course, stupid. If anything, the red leather pants was stolen from Mike Reno.

I never got it when people said Augeri tried to look like Perry. He tried to sound like him (he really didn't all that much), but that was the point. If the same criticisms were pointed at Hugo, they would certainly be justified. He has made a lot of money because he looks like Perry and copies his mannerisms, which Augeri never did.

Tommy DeCarlo's old look certainly didn't make him look like a rock star, and he definitely needed a change. The first time I saw a picture of him with his hair grown out and the facial hair, it was a complete WTF moment. I think it would have been worse if Tommy's hair grew out curly. If this look was intentional, it was tasteless and classless. If it wasn't, a change is still in order. Please don't sue me Tom.

scarygirl wrote:I am listening to one of Brad Delp's last performances from 06. There is NO comparison between the two. From what I am hearing the guy still had it and then some. While I am sure this De Carlo guy is a nice enough guy, there is a certain vocal timber that is lacking. While a great singer in his own right, it just not the same and in my eyes still very karokeesqu.

Brad Delp wasn't very good live for the most part. I have a boot of Boston playing Worcester MA from 87, and it's HORRIBLE, especially vocally. By the second half of Boston's career, they had Fran Cosmo singing all the high notes live. I saw them three times. Each show was enjoyable for the most part, but Delp couldn't come close to producing what he did on record. And it wasn't just a function of age, either, because he wasn't great in his prime either.

To be sure, Delp put some legendary notes on tape and should have his place in rock history for that. But let's not revise history and make him (or Boston itself) out to be some live tour de force. They could never come close to producing live what they produced on studio with all of Scholz's studio wizardry.

Ehwmatt wrote:

scarygirl wrote:I am listening to one of Brad Delp's last performances from 06. There is NO comparison between the two. From what I am hearing the guy still had it and then some. While I am sure this De Carlo guy is a nice enough guy, there is a certain vocal timber that is lacking. While a great singer in his own right, it just not the same and in my eyes still very karokeesqu.

Brad Delp wasn't very good live for the most part. I have a boot of Boston playing Worcester MA from 87, and it's HORRIBLE, especially vocally. By the second half of Boston's career, they had Fran Cosmo singing all the high notes live. I saw them three times. Each show was enjoyable for the most part, but Delp couldn't come close to producing what he did on record. And it wasn't just a function of age, either, because he wasn't great in his prime either.

To be sure, Delp put some legendary notes on tape and should have his place in rock history for that. But let's not revise history and make him (or Boston itself) out to be some live tour de force. They could never come close to producing live what they produced on studio with all of Scholz's studio wizardry.

Well as a huge Bostonfan I would like to rip you a new one for your critique! ......but your mostly right..
He always sounded good to me tone wise live, but yeah, it was not the same power as in the studio for sure.
Steve P was a much better live singer, probably did to much live in fact.

Ehwmatt wrote:

scarygirl wrote:I am listening to one of Brad Delp's last performances from 06. There is NO comparison between the two. From what I am hearing the guy still had it and then some. While I am sure this De Carlo guy is a nice enough guy, there is a certain vocal timber that is lacking. While a great singer in his own right, it just not the same and in my eyes still very karokeesqu.

Brad Delp wasn't very good live for the most part. I have a boot of Boston playing Worcester MA from 87, and it's HORRIBLE, especially vocally. By the second half of Boston's career, they had Fran Cosmo singing all the high notes live. I saw them three times. Each show was enjoyable for the most part, but Delp couldn't come close to producing what he did on record. And it wasn't just a function of age, either, because he wasn't great in his prime either.

To be sure, Delp put some legendary notes on tape and should have his place in rock history for that. But let's not revise history and make him (or Boston itself) out to be some live tour de force. They could never come close to producing live what they produced on studio with all of Scholz's studio wizardry.

I saw them on the "Corporate America" tour and the sound they had going on that tour was as good, if not better, than any I've heard so far. Yeah, so Delp couldn't replicate his studio vocals in a live setting.

I love Tommy's voice but I agree this is bizarre. Ian Astbury did the same thing when he sang with the new Doors band. Something must get inside these singers heads that they are now Jim or Brad. That's nuts.

JohnH wrote:I love Tommy's voice but I agree this is bizarre. Ian Astbury did the same thing when he sang with the new Doors band. Something must get inside these singers heads that they are now Jim or Brad. That's nuts.

Its coming from T.S. or management. its cheap and disrespectful. they pulled AR'S pics which showed how stupid
it is, then locked the topic. T.S. must have bought the fan site as well.

conversationpc wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

scarygirl wrote:I am listening to one of Brad Delp's last performances from 06. There is NO comparison between the two. From what I am hearing the guy still had it and then some. While I am sure this De Carlo guy is a nice enough guy, there is a certain vocal timber that is lacking. While a great singer in his own right, it just not the same and in my eyes still very karokeesqu.

Brad Delp wasn't very good live for the most part. I have a boot of Boston playing Worcester MA from 87, and it's HORRIBLE, especially vocally. By the second half of Boston's career, they had Fran Cosmo singing all the high notes live. I saw them three times. Each show was enjoyable for the most part, but Delp couldn't come close to producing what he did on record. And it wasn't just a function of age, either, because he wasn't great in his prime either.

To be sure, Delp put some legendary notes on tape and should have his place in rock history for that. But let's not revise history and make him (or Boston itself) out to be some live tour de force. They could never come close to producing live what they produced on studio with all of Scholz's studio wizardry.

I saw them on the "Corporate America" tour and the sound they had going on that tour was as good, if not better, than any I've heard so far. Yeah, so Delp couldn't replicate his studio vocals in a live setting.

I saw that tour too. The sound was merely passable... and that was after they got through the first 5 songs (including greats like Peace of Mind, Feeling Satisfied, and More than A Feeling) were ruined by an inexplicably awful sound mix. For the first 5 songs, you could faintly make out the electric guitars from the 3rd row. And you couldn't hear the vocals (harmony or electric) at all. The mics were literally off/not working. Then they got a passable mix going and I enjoyed a good show filled with some surprises (e.g., Surrender to Me and Magdalene). I thought it was the venue (Blossom in Cuyahoga Falls, OH, a big pavilion-type venue). But then I saw them again 2 years later and it was at a totally different, much smaller venue. And the SAME EXACT THING HAPPENED. It was unbelievable.

I had to chalk it up to their just having so many things on stage. I think they had 5 electric guitars, 2 acoustics (and at least 5 guitars from those 7 being played on just about every song), harmony vocals on everybody except the drummer, the organ Scholz uses on Foreplay/Long Time, and a regular keyboard. Not to mention Scholz's very complex amp/effects setups to get that Boston guitar sound running for all 5 guitars. But anyway, that always left a sour taste in my mouth seeing them thoes two times. They have such a limited catalogue, and just about every song they play live is going to be a can't miss for me (except for some Third Stage clunkers)... it really did suck.

But like I said, once the sound got sorted out, it was definitely a solid show.

RPM wrote:

JohnH wrote:I love Tommy's voice but I agree this is bizarre. Ian Astbury did the same thing when he sang with the new Doors band. Something must get inside these singers heads that they are now Jim or Brad. That's nuts.

Its coming from T.S. or management. its cheap and disrespectful. they pulled AR'S pics which showed how stupid
it is, then locked the topic. T.S. must have bought the fan site as well.

They did.

Bunch of apologists there.

Good that we can be honest here.

I seen Boston in Kettering, OH last month. I picked up on the weird Delp look a like thing straight away and thought it was a little weird. With that being said, Tommy has a great voice and did a superb job of covering Delp’s original parts. He was awesome and was happy to listen to his vocals. I wished he'd stand on his own and let his vocals carry the day as opposed to looking too much like Delp. The guy is really really good. I'd hate for his capabilities to be tarnished because he looks too much like his predecessor (Hugo as an example).

AR wrote:

RPM wrote:

JohnH wrote:I love Tommy's voice but I agree this is bizarre. Ian Astbury did the same thing when he sang with the new Doors band. Something must get inside these singers heads that they are now Jim or Brad. That's nuts.

Its coming from T.S. or management. its cheap and disrespectful. they pulled AR'S pics which showed how stupid
it is, then locked the topic. T.S. must have bought the fan site as well.

Good that we can be honest here.

And land me in some strife.
Images have to go. They are copyrighted. And no over the top hate please.

Andrew wrote:

AR wrote:

RPM wrote:

JohnH wrote:I love Tommy's voice but I agree this is bizarre. Ian Astbury did the same thing when he sang with the new Doors band. Something must get inside these singers heads that they are now Jim or Brad. That's nuts.

Its coming from T.S. or management. its cheap and disrespectful. they pulled AR'S pics which showed how stupid
it is, then locked the topic. T.S. must have bought the fan site as well.

Good that we can be honest here.

And land me in some strife.
Images have to go. They are copyrighted. And no over the top hate please.

Mr. Scholz doesn't like this thread I guess.

I will never give him or his karaoke clown a dime of my money.

AR wrote:Mr. Scholz doesn't like this thread I guess.

No comment.

I bet if this were a positive thread Scholz wouldn't be throwing this little tantrum, and he wouldn't be complaining about using copyrighted photos either.

I love TC Helicon's equipment. Here a great interview with a great vocalist, Tommy DeCarlo. http://www.tc-helicon.com/tommy-decarlo ... c-helicon/

And here's an interview with one of the best vocalist ever. You make the call: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5Zg56vJI4

There's gotta be uncopyrighted photos someone can put up isn't there?

I love when people (karaoke Boston) get all pissy about "copyrighted" photos. If it's thrown up on the Internet it is essentially everywhere. As long as you aren't selling it who gives a shit?

now THIS is th Bostom I loved..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BOEg-AC ... re=related

Seems like when a band does something like this, they turn into a self tribute band, not that its necessarily a bad thing, just something I don't find any interest in. However, if they do go on to create new music then I would say it's not too much of a big deal and if the new music they create is something I really like, I'd buy it. The last Boston Album I got was Third Stage and that was....damn.....26 years ago while I was in the Philippines.

Tom may be the only original member, but they were DANG good when I seen them in OH. Tommy and David Victor did a great job singing. They sounded great and were a TON better than Journey the last time I seen them. The only thing I missed a little seeing Boston were the guitar leads. Barry Goudreau's lead parts were some of the best leads I've heard. Scholz and Pihl can hit the notes on Barry's parts but they sound like me trying to play them. Goudreau's work was a step above and it was missed when I seen them. Other than that, I wouldn't change a thing sound wise. I'd love to see the 76-79 line up with Tommy and David V singing but it's not likely to happen.

Aaron wrote:Tom may be the only original member, but they were DANG good when I seen them in OH. Tommy and David Victor did a great job singing. They sounded great and were a TON better than Journey the last time I seen them. The only thing I missed a little seeing Boston were the guitar leads. Barry Goudreau's lead parts were some of the best leads I've heard. Scholz and Pihl can hit the notes on Barry's parts but they sound like me trying to play them. Goudreau's work was a step above and it was missed when I seen them. Other than that, I wouldn't change a thing sound wise. I'd love to see the 76-79 line up with Tommy and David V singing but it's not likely to happen.

I wouldn't give Scholz a dime for a live show. Sometimes a band should just die gracefully. Dressing up a power tool salesman exactly like the guy he sort of sounds like is just fucking reprehensible. I'll stick with the recordings and the memories.

The tribute show is the last live thing I'll ever hear from them.

I'm "StillStanding" better than I ever did.

AR wrote:I'm "StillStanding" better than I ever did.

You are to funny dude...lol....