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Major ISPs' six strike Copyright alert system goes live

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:30 pm
by Don
Copyright Alert System gets started, ISPs ready to lay the smack down on P2P piracy

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/25/copy ... -now-live/

The fight against online piracy just gained a new weapon in the form of the Copyright Alert System (CAS) aka the "six strikes" policy. Starting today, participating ISPs like Verizon, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and Comcast will begin issuing warnings to customers suspected of using illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing services that violate copyright laws. Initial notifications will be used to educate and direct customers to legal alternative content sources. If the first set of notifications go avoided, the ISP may take further action, which includes: throttling internet connection speeds and redirecting users to websites requiring acknowledgment of CAS alerts.

If a person wishes to contest their ISP's findings, they will have 14 calendar days to request an independent review by the American Arbitration Association (AAA) for a fee of $35. If the investigation finds that no copyright violations have taken place, the alerts will be removed from the customer's account and they will receive a refund for the filing fee. However, should the organization's research rule otherwise, the internet service provider may proceed with taking action against its account holder.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:57 pm
by steveo777
Good thing I got anything that is worth a damn a long time ago. :wink: :lol:

I grabbed a movie off a torrent site a few years ago, just so I could watch it, nothing more. My ISP immediately sent me a warning. I never did that again!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:18 pm
by Rick
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:04 pm
by collingwood
Wow... I guess VPN services will sky rocket now

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:13 pm
by Don
collingwood wrote:Wow... I guess VPN services will sky rocket now


The free VPNs don't really protect you though, it's the ones that require a fee that don't keep logs and what not. If you're going to pay monthly for a good VPN service though, you might as well pay for USENET or simply buy the content instead of downloading it.

You are probably right though. A lot of people will think that any old VPN will protect them and their usage will skyrocket for a while until folks start getting nasty-grams despite using the VPNs.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:32 pm
by collingwood
P2P is probably the simple mans way to download, there are many other ways and no doubt there will be something else that grows and takes off.

If they cut off Porn, Music and Movies, the internet would virtually stop and people would stop using it. If the big businesses weren't so greedy, we would happily buy the real thing.

There was some interesting reading in this "5 Things Record Labels Don't Want You to Know They Do" http://www.cracked.com/article_20256_5- ... ey-do.html

Re: Major ISPs' six strike Copyright alert system goes live

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:20 pm
by yulog
Don wrote:Copyright Alert System gets started, ISPs ready to lay the smack down on P2P piracy

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/25/copy ... -now-live/

The fight against online piracy just gained a new weapon in the form of the Copyright Alert System (CAS) aka the "six strikes" policy. Starting today, participating ISPs like Verizon, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and Comcast will begin issuing warnings to customers suspected of using illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing services that violate copyright laws. Initial notifications will be used to educate and direct customers to legal alternative content sources. If the first set of notifications go avoided, the ISP may take further action, which includes: throttling internet connection speeds and redirecting users to websites requiring acknowledgment of CAS alerts.

If a person wishes to contest their ISP's findings, they will have 14 calendar days to request an independent review by the American Arbitration Association (AAA) for a fee of $35. If the investigation finds that no copyright violations have taken place, the alerts will be removed from the customer's account and they will receive a refund for the filing fee. However, should the organization's research rule otherwise, the internet service provider may proceed with taking action against its account holder.



i heard this was started in dec 2012, thought it was in place already

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:13 am
by tater1977
I don't mind paying for stuff.
The only thing thats burns my arse..is wishing the
artist would recieve a higher percentage of the purchase
price....

Re: Major ISPs' six strike Copyright alert system goes live

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:12 am
by Rick
yulog wrote:
Don wrote:Copyright Alert System gets started, ISPs ready to lay the smack down on P2P piracy

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/25/copy ... -now-live/

The fight against online piracy just gained a new weapon in the form of the Copyright Alert System (CAS) aka the "six strikes" policy. Starting today, participating ISPs like Verizon, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and Comcast will begin issuing warnings to customers suspected of using illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing services that violate copyright laws. Initial notifications will be used to educate and direct customers to legal alternative content sources. If the first set of notifications go avoided, the ISP may take further action, which includes: throttling internet connection speeds and redirecting users to websites requiring acknowledgment of CAS alerts.

If a person wishes to contest their ISP's findings, they will have 14 calendar days to request an independent review by the American Arbitration Association (AAA) for a fee of $35. If the investigation finds that no copyright violations have taken place, the alerts will be removed from the customer's account and they will receive a refund for the filing fee. However, should the organization's research rule otherwise, the internet service provider may proceed with taking action against its account holder.



i heard this was started in dec 2012, thought it was in place already


I haven't gotten any notices, and I get something off of the torrent sites a few times a week. I don't know if my ISP is on board with this yet though. They're a smallish cable company called Charter. Fastest internet connection I've ever had.

Re: Major ISPs' six strike Copyright alert system goes live

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:18 am
by steveo777
Rick wrote:
yulog wrote:
Don wrote:Copyright Alert System gets started, ISPs ready to lay the smack down on P2P piracy

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/25/copy ... -now-live/

The fight against online piracy just gained a new weapon in the form of the Copyright Alert System (CAS) aka the "six strikes" policy. Starting today, participating ISPs like Verizon, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and Comcast will begin issuing warnings to customers suspected of using illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing services that violate copyright laws. Initial notifications will be used to educate and direct customers to legal alternative content sources. If the first set of notifications go avoided, the ISP may take further action, which includes: throttling internet connection speeds and redirecting users to websites requiring acknowledgment of CAS alerts.

If a person wishes to contest their ISP's findings, they will have 14 calendar days to request an independent review by the American Arbitration Association (AAA) for a fee of $35. If the investigation finds that no copyright violations have taken place, the alerts will be removed from the customer's account and they will receive a refund for the filing fee. However, should the organization's research rule otherwise, the internet service provider may proceed with taking action against its account holder.



i heard this was started in dec 2012, thought it was in place already


I haven't gotten any notices, and I get something off of the torrent sites a few times a week. I don't know if my ISP is on board with this yet though. They're a smallish cable company called Charter. Fastest internet connection I've ever had.


That's what I have too. They give notices. I guess it all just depends on where your torrents come from and how new the movie is. I got thumped for downloading a leaked disc that was still playing in theaters. Infact, when I burned the DVD it said property "of" on the screen when it started. :shock:

Re: Major ISPs' six strike Copyright alert system goes live

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:44 am
by Rick
steveo777 wrote:
Rick wrote:
yulog wrote:
Don wrote:Copyright Alert System gets started, ISPs ready to lay the smack down on P2P piracy

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/25/copy ... -now-live/

The fight against online piracy just gained a new weapon in the form of the Copyright Alert System (CAS) aka the "six strikes" policy. Starting today, participating ISPs like Verizon, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and Comcast will begin issuing warnings to customers suspected of using illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing services that violate copyright laws. Initial notifications will be used to educate and direct customers to legal alternative content sources. If the first set of notifications go avoided, the ISP may take further action, which includes: throttling internet connection speeds and redirecting users to websites requiring acknowledgment of CAS alerts.

If a person wishes to contest their ISP's findings, they will have 14 calendar days to request an independent review by the American Arbitration Association (AAA) for a fee of $35. If the investigation finds that no copyright violations have taken place, the alerts will be removed from the customer's account and they will receive a refund for the filing fee. However, should the organization's research rule otherwise, the internet service provider may proceed with taking action against its account holder.



i heard this was started in dec 2012, thought it was in place already


I haven't gotten any notices, and I get something off of the torrent sites a few times a week. I don't know if my ISP is on board with this yet though. They're a smallish cable company called Charter. Fastest internet connection I've ever had.


That's what I have too. They give notices. I guess it all just depends on where your torrents come from and how new the movie is. I got thumped for downloading a leaked disc that was still playing in theaters. Infact, when I burned the DVD it said property "of" on the screen when it started. :shock:


One thing I make sure to do is move the file(s) I download out of the download folder when it's complete, so I'm not sharing it. I'm not sure how they do it now, but they used to search for things like movies, music and stuff and bust the people sharing it. They may have the technology now to snag a downloader, but that wasn't the case before.

Re: Major ISPs' six strike Copyright alert system goes live

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:23 am
by yulog
Rick wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rick wrote:
yulog wrote:
Don wrote:Copyright Alert System gets started, ISPs ready to lay the smack down on P2P piracy

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/25/copy ... -now-live/

The fight against online piracy just gained a new weapon in the form of the Copyright Alert System (CAS) aka the "six strikes" policy. Starting today, participating ISPs like Verizon, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and Comcast will begin issuing warnings to customers suspected of using illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing services that violate copyright laws. Initial notifications will be used to educate and direct customers to legal alternative content sources. If the first set of notifications go avoided, the ISP may take further action, which includes: throttling internet connection speeds and redirecting users to websites requiring acknowledgment of CAS alerts.

If a person wishes to contest their ISP's findings, they will have 14 calendar days to request an independent review by the American Arbitration Association (AAA) for a fee of $35. If the investigation finds that no copyright violations have taken place, the alerts will be removed from the customer's account and they will receive a refund for the filing fee. However, should the organization's research rule otherwise, the internet service provider may proceed with taking action against its account holder.



i heard this was started in dec 2012, thought it was in place already


I haven't gotten any notices, and I get something off of the torrent sites a few times a week. I don't know if my ISP is on board with this yet though. They're a smallish cable company called Charter. Fastest internet connection I've ever had.


That's what I have too. They give notices. I guess it all just depends on where your torrents come from and how new the movie is. I got thumped for downloading a leaked disc that was still playing in theaters. Infact, when I burned the DVD it said property "of" on the screen when it started. :shock:


One thing I make sure to do is move the file(s) I download out of the download folder when it's complete, so I'm not sharing it. I'm not sure how they do it now, but they used to search for things like movies, music and stuff and bust the people sharing it. They may have the technology now to snag a downloader, but that wasn't the case before.


I never upload anything , my big thing is missed tv shows if theres 3 shows on at 10pm that i want to watch i usually will download 2 of 3, watch and delete (funny thing is i have a dvr but i have never used it) just force of habit and torrents are much easier to use


i wonder if something shared thru rapidshare,depositfiles, or rapidgator is going to count against you, i dont believe its a torrent, i believe its similar to dropbox ....Rick any ideas if this is something they could monitor

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:52 am
by Don
They used to just go after the uploaders but this is aimed at both. They are saying that your providers won't take any action after the sixth strike but there is a provision where they will turn over your info to the requesting agencies. I can't imagine that data won't be used against some of the offenders eventually.

Re: Major ISPs' six strike Copyright alert system goes live

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:15 am
by Rick
yulog wrote:
Rick wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rick wrote:
yulog wrote:
Don wrote:Copyright Alert System gets started, ISPs ready to lay the smack down on P2P piracy

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/25/copy ... -now-live/

The fight against online piracy just gained a new weapon in the form of the Copyright Alert System (CAS) aka the "six strikes" policy. Starting today, participating ISPs like Verizon, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and Comcast will begin issuing warnings to customers suspected of using illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing services that violate copyright laws. Initial notifications will be used to educate and direct customers to legal alternative content sources. If the first set of notifications go avoided, the ISP may take further action, which includes: throttling internet connection speeds and redirecting users to websites requiring acknowledgment of CAS alerts.

If a person wishes to contest their ISP's findings, they will have 14 calendar days to request an independent review by the American Arbitration Association (AAA) for a fee of $35. If the investigation finds that no copyright violations have taken place, the alerts will be removed from the customer's account and they will receive a refund for the filing fee. However, should the organization's research rule otherwise, the internet service provider may proceed with taking action against its account holder.



i heard this was started in dec 2012, thought it was in place already


I haven't gotten any notices, and I get something off of the torrent sites a few times a week. I don't know if my ISP is on board with this yet though. They're a smallish cable company called Charter. Fastest internet connection I've ever had.


That's what I have too. They give notices. I guess it all just depends on where your torrents come from and how new the movie is. I got thumped for downloading a leaked disc that was still playing in theaters. Infact, when I burned the DVD it said property "of" on the screen when it started. :shock:


One thing I make sure to do is move the file(s) I download out of the download folder when it's complete, so I'm not sharing it. I'm not sure how they do it now, but they used to search for things like movies, music and stuff and bust the people sharing it. They may have the technology now to snag a downloader, but that wasn't the case before.


I never upload anything , my big thing is missed tv shows if theres 3 shows on at 10pm that i want to watch i usually will download 2 of 3, watch and delete (funny thing is i have a dvr but i have never used it) just force of habit and torrents are much easier to use


i wonder if something shared thru rapidshare,depositfiles, or rapidgator is going to count against you, i dont believe its a torrent, i believe its similar to dropbox ....Rick any ideas if this is something they could monitor


I think this is targeted at Peer to Peer file sharing. I don't think they will be able to monitor things like that. I can delete the crying baby pic now. :lol: :D

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:17 am
by Rick
Don wrote:They used to just go after the uploaders but this is aimed at both. They are saying that your providers won't take any action after the sixth strike but there is a provision where they will turn over your info to the requesting agencies. I can't imagine that data won't be used against some of the offenders eventually.


I'm going to hide and watch. I've already told the people in my house that movie downloading is on hiatus. They can go spend a dollar at the Red Box. It was a pain in my ass anyway.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:26 pm
by slucero
Rick wrote:
Don wrote:They used to just go after the uploaders but this is aimed at both. They are saying that your providers won't take any action after the sixth strike but there is a provision where they will turn over your info to the requesting agencies. I can't imagine that data won't be used against some of the offenders eventually.


I'm going to hide and watch. I've already told the people in my house that movie downloading is on hiatus. They can go spend a dollar at the Red Box. It was a pain in my ass anyway.



the warning notices would hit your Charter email account. Unless you are forwarding that email to something like Yahoo or Gmail..

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:40 pm
by Rick
slucero wrote:
Rick wrote:
Don wrote:They used to just go after the uploaders but this is aimed at both. They are saying that your providers won't take any action after the sixth strike but there is a provision where they will turn over your info to the requesting agencies. I can't imagine that data won't be used against some of the offenders eventually.


I'm going to hide and watch. I've already told the people in my house that movie downloading is on hiatus. They can go spend a dollar at the Red Box. It was a pain in my ass anyway.



the warning notices would hit your Charter email account. Unless you are forwarding that email to something like Yahoo or Gmail..


Oh wow. I need to check that. :lol: :lol: :lol: I haven't even looked at that inbox since it was created.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:54 pm
by yulog
Rick wrote:
slucero wrote:
Rick wrote:
Don wrote:They used to just go after the uploaders but this is aimed at both. They are saying that your providers won't take any action after the sixth strike but there is a provision where they will turn over your info to the requesting agencies. I can't imagine that data won't be used against some of the offenders eventually.


I'm going to hide and watch. I've already told the people in my house that movie downloading is on hiatus. They can go spend a dollar at the Red Box. It was a pain in my ass anyway.



the warning notices would hit your Charter email account. Unless you are forwarding that email to something like Yahoo or Gmail..


Oh wow. I need to check that. :lol: :lol: :lol: I haven't even looked at that inbox since it was created.


What if you never started an email account with your internet provider?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:55 pm
by Rick
yulog wrote:
Rick wrote:
slucero wrote:
Rick wrote:
Don wrote:They used to just go after the uploaders but this is aimed at both. They are saying that your providers won't take any action after the sixth strike but there is a provision where they will turn over your info to the requesting agencies. I can't imagine that data won't be used against some of the offenders eventually.


I'm going to hide and watch. I've already told the people in my house that movie downloading is on hiatus. They can go spend a dollar at the Red Box. It was a pain in my ass anyway.



the warning notices would hit your Charter email account. Unless you are forwarding that email to something like Yahoo or Gmail..


Oh wow. I need to check that. :lol: :lol: :lol: I haven't even looked at that inbox since it was created.


What if you never started an email account with your internet provider?


No idea, but there was nothing in there but Charter Newsletters and junk from them. No warnings. :D