New Van Halen on the Way?

[jestor92]

Found this a couple mins ago http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=10575

Jim Florentine (That Metal Show) recently conducted an interview with VAN HALEN's DAVID LEE ROTH on Ozzy's Boneyard, and he had this to say:

"I was up at (guitarist) Edward (Van Halen)'s house, maybe three days ago - just before I came here to the city - and we're starting to put music together. Not to give away exactly what the package will be, it's gonna be about 18 months, I think. We start way, way, way in advance, 'cause we are eminently art-centric, which is a really fancy way of saying we really do generate all the artwork, the graphics, etc. We don't hire out and have somebody design a bunch of album covers for us and then choose.... we start from scratch ourselves. Same thing with the merchandise - if you buy a t-shirt, that was designed, literally, in my living room. On and on... stage design, lighting rig, putting the show together - it takes about a year and a half, 18 months, because any idea that you have is 85 phone calls. Anybody can go, 'I got an idea, it's a stage that's shaped like, uh, like a square on top of a circle'. Great, my question never was, 'were you able to dream up a stage design', my question is, 'are you prepared to do the 87 phone calls that are about to follow now, to make sure it came out the way we decided'. And then there's another 80 phone calls that are gonna follow that because we have to figure out how to take the fuckin' thing apart and put it in the trucks and buses. And, and, and. So if you really want to generate the ideas from scratch and bring them all the way to the finish, you're gonna have to learn a few other languages, and you're gonna have to speak those over a lot of extra phone calls. And that's usually the break point for most artists."

He goes on: "Oh, yeah, we're writing... I write lyrics routinely. It's a perishable skill. And the band plays together routinely, at least three times a week. They’re up at Ed’s place, routinely."
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[Memorex]

18 months is to cover the three months of writing and 15 months of delays. Notice how he doesn't say they all play and write together. He writes - I assume at his house. And the band plays - up at Eddies. And they probably get together once every few months to see what they have - then off to their silos.

Dave's gotten very good at the PR stuff surrounding the craziness that goes on. I have a lot of admiration for him for that skill.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Last album was great. Would love to see another DLR VH cd.

[conversationpc]

Last album was great. Would love to see another DLR VH cd.

Me, too and hopefully with more newer material than rewrites of past demos, although there are still a handful they haven't done that would be worth recording.

[brywool]

yeah, the last album might've been decent, but Roth onstage was completely EMBARRASSING.
He looks like a cross between Charles Nelson Reilly and Richard Dawson. AWFUL front guy.

It's a pity that the Cherone incarnation didn't produce a good album because out of the three of them, he was the best live. He'd cover ALL the stuff and he did a helluva job with it. Sammy is Sammy, but only covered the Sammy tunes. Dave is... completely freaking lost and not able to do the Sammy stuff. Gary did a great job live and did it ALL.

I dare ANYONE to watch this and think that Dave is good for the band (at least live- utterly embarrassing). You couldn't pay me to go to this show. Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar gotta be laughing themselves silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbsW_Dp0mpM

Now watch this with Cherone. Friggin brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnilDTxCF8

Seriously, Daves albums were great. Loved em. But live, he is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.

[No Surprize]

yeah, the last album might've been decent, but Roth onstage was completely EMBARRASSING.
He looks like a cross between Charles Nelson Reilly and Richard Dawson. AWFUL front guy.

It's a pity that the Cherone incarnation didn't produce a good album because out of the three of them, he was the best live. He'd cover ALL the stuff and he did a helluva job with it. Sammy is Sammy, but only covered the Sammy tunes. Dave is... completely freaking lost and not able to do the Sammy stuff. Gary did a great job live and did it ALL.

I dare ANYONE to watch this and think that Dave is good for the band (at least live- utterly embarrassing). You couldn't pay me to go to this show. Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar gotta be laughing themselves silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbsW_Dp0mpM

Now watch this with Cherone. Friggin brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnilDTxCF8

Seriously, Daves albums were great. Loved em. But live, he is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.

Seriously, I couldn't get past him fucking up "Unchained". Now I see why Extreme never survived.

[brywool]

And you watched the Roth thing and thought it was good?!! I thought I was watching Bad Grampa.
Good luck with that. Embarrassing.
Here's another... what the heck song is Ed playing anyway?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4

I cannot believe he didn't have his tech give him a new guitar, obviously out of tune with the keys and yet the bass is in tune.
Remarkably, Roth actually sounds halfway decent in this track.

[FamilyMan]

Memo to Dave: How about 80 fewer calls, and four times the musical output?

[Rick]

yeah, the last album might've been decent, but Roth onstage was completely EMBARRASSING.
He looks like a cross between Charles Nelson Reilly and Richard Dawson. AWFUL front guy.

It's a pity that the Cherone incarnation didn't produce a good album because out of the three of them, he was the best live. He'd cover ALL the stuff and he did a helluva job with it. Sammy is Sammy, but only covered the Sammy tunes. Dave is... completely freaking lost and not able to do the Sammy stuff. Gary did a great job live and did it ALL.

I dare ANYONE to watch this and think that Dave is good for the band (at least live- utterly embarrassing). You couldn't pay me to go to this show. Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar gotta be laughing themselves silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbsW_Dp0mpM

Now watch this with Cherone. Friggin brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnilDTxCF8

Seriously, Daves albums were great. Loved em. But live, he is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.

Seriously? I put Roth right up there with Plant and Mercury as far as front men go. Perry too. He can't carry a tune anymore, but he's still got that Dave thing going on. It's always fun to watch him perform.

[slucero]

Van Halen with Cherone = a band with a singer, with pipes.

Van Halen with Hagar = a band with a great singer, with pipes.

Van Halen with Roth = a great show.


I love Hagar.. but this is this is the only version of Van Halen that was worth a damn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoMGo__wWm4

[No Surprize]

Van Halen with Cherone = a band with a singer, with pipes.

Van Halen with Hagar = a band with a great singer, with pipes.

Van Halen with Roth = a great show.


I love Hagar.. but this is this is the only version of Van Halen that was worth a damn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoMGo__wWm4

Man, I've seen it before and that's Halen as we all know it. You know, it's not all about singing and you gotta get past it. Roth never in concert sung a song perfectly and by now never will. in the history of rock. No one else had his charisma, his interaction with the audience, his leg kicks, his high rise flying V off the drum set like this fucker. If it was all about singing groups like Metallica, The Rolling Stones, etc., wouldn't have made it. Van Halen with Diamond Dave bought the show.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I liked the Cherone album. Not great, not horrid. Wish they had soldiered on like Journey did w/ Augeri. But I guess low album sales were enough to make Eddie throw in the towel - kinda like when Genesis replaced Phil and the cd tanked.

[brywool]

yeah, the last album might've been decent, but Roth onstage was completely EMBARRASSING.
He looks like a cross between Charles Nelson Reilly and Richard Dawson. AWFUL front guy.

It's a pity that the Cherone incarnation didn't produce a good album because out of the three of them, he was the best live. He'd cover ALL the stuff and he did a helluva job with it. Sammy is Sammy, but only covered the Sammy tunes. Dave is... completely freaking lost and not able to do the Sammy stuff. Gary did a great job live and did it ALL.

I dare ANYONE to watch this and think that Dave is good for the band (at least live- utterly embarrassing). You couldn't pay me to go to this show. Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar gotta be laughing themselves silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbsW_Dp0mpM

Now watch this with Cherone. Friggin brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnilDTxCF8

Seriously, Daves albums were great. Loved em. But live, he is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.

Seriously? I put Roth right up there with Plant and Mercury as far as front men go. Perry too. He can't carry a tune anymore, but he's still got that Dave thing going on. It's always fun to watch him perform.

Oh Rick, watch the video I linked (if you haven't), Roth looks like Liberace and William Shatner had a baby. Oh, he's horrible. I saw Dave with VH on the Diver Down tour and he was a complete screw up live. Funny frontguy for a bit, but then if you listen to bootlegs, he did the same stuff at every show (e.g. "I'm gonna F yer girlfriend!") but man, he was singing chorses where verses were supposed to be and he was terrible. This new version is so much worse. I can totally understand why Eddie and Al have such difficulties working with him. (And yeah, Ed's a nutjob too) but at least they can usually play. Dave is totally unreliable as a singer. I'm sorry, but as a front guy now, he looks like a drum majorette in a jr. high school marching band. Horrible.

[SF-Dano]

Ok.....after watching that all that comes to mind is Ralph Firley is now fronting VH.

[verslibre]

I love Hagar.. but this is this is the only version of Van Halen that was worth a damn.

Simmer down, now! Millions disagree with you. I remember being initially dismayed when Hagar became VH's singer in '85 (the announcement, not the release of 5150), but I was won over by a great, great album minus the sucky drum sound that Mick Jones was/is so proud of. The genius of 1984 was a bitch to follow up but they managed to cook up something that's creatively on the same level without regurgitating their previous efforts (you know, like just exhuming a bunch of old '70s songs and recording them ).

By the way, that '82 show all but ignores Fair Warning, which is arguably the best VH-Roth album (and still fresh at the time)!

[verslibre]

I liked the Cherone album. Not great, not horrid. Wish they had soldiered on like Journey did w/ Augeri. But I guess low album sales were enough to make Eddie throw in the towel - kinda like when Genesis replaced Phil and the cd tanked.

I hate "Fire In The Hole" but III has a bunch of good songs. I like "One I Want" a lot. I don't think they could have forged a long-term thing with Cherone without accepting those albums wouldn't go platinum. It's not like Ed didn't already have enough money.

[No Surprize]

Oh Rick, watch the video I linked (if you haven't), Roth looks like Liberace and William Shatner had a baby. Oh, he's horrible. I saw Dave with VH on the Diver Down tour and he was a complete screw up live. Funny frontguy for a bit, but then if you listen to bootlegs, he did the same stuff at every show (e.g. "I'm gonna F yer girlfriend!") but man, he was singing chorses where verses were supposed to be and he was terrible. This new version is so much worse. I can totally understand why Eddie and Al have such difficulties working with him. (And yeah, Ed's a nutjob too) but at least they can usually play. Dave is totally unreliable as a singer. I'm sorry, but as a front guy now, he looks like a drum majorette in a jr. high school marching band. Horrible.

Bry, up until the world wide web came into the picture, you never seen those bootlegs and what he said during a show. From city to city and those that went, they ALL thought it was said the first time. And like I said before, he NEVER sung a song live perfectly and who the fuck really cared? NO ONE. They were without a doubt the biggest band in the world for a long time for a band with Roth leading the charge. I didn't care one small iota if Roth sung like Pavoratti or Ed played ever song onstage note for note or if Alex hit a tom instead of a snare. Van Halen was the ultimate party band onstage. Roth has his way onstage and it fit their style perfectly.

By the way, that '82 show all but ignores Fair Warning, which is arguably the best VH-Roth album (and still fresh at the time)

Vers, could it have been because they toured the previous year (1981) and did 82 shows backing up Fair Warning. Remember, this was when bands put out an album or even 2 albums a year. The 82 tour was promoting the Diver Down album and they did it well.

[jestor92]

yeah, the last album might've been decent, but Roth onstage was completely EMBARRASSING.
He looks like a cross between Charles Nelson Reilly and Richard Dawson. AWFUL front guy.

It's a pity that the Cherone incarnation didn't produce a good album because out of the three of them, he was the best live. He'd cover ALL the stuff and he did a helluva job with it. Sammy is Sammy, but only covered the Sammy tunes. Dave is... completely freaking lost and not able to do the Sammy stuff. Gary did a great job live and did it ALL.

I dare ANYONE to watch this and think that Dave is good for the band (at least live- utterly embarrassing). You couldn't pay me to go to this show. Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar gotta be laughing themselves silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbsW_Dp0mpM

Now watch this with Cherone. Friggin brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnilDTxCF8

Seriously, Daves albums were great. Loved em. But live, he is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.

The VH III songs from the Australia show slay the studio versions of the VH III songs. Whoever produced and mixed VH III should've had their ass kicked.