Monker wrote:How ignorant are you? TDK made 1.04 billion world wide. Civil War passed that in its third week. THAT WAS MY POINT. I was not confusing TDK:R. You are not only moving goal posts, you are not even recognizing when a touchdown was scored.
If you weren't too busy patting your best friend on the back (in the mirror, that is), you'd have noticed that I talked about BOTH TDK AND TDKR in my post dated Thu May 26, 2016 2:31 am. Evidently, your arrogance is akin to nearsightedness.
Monker wrote:So, now it seems Civil War passed BOTH TDK and TDK:R. I didn't know that.
And Civil War will be topped by some other CBM in the future. Next topic.
Monker wrote:verslibre wrote:And yeah, I'd expect Avengers: Civil War to make more than a movie starring ONE major superhero. All you're doing is proving to me and everyone that it took 12 heroes — including Spider-Man this time — to beat Batman! Bravo!
Oh, please, the number of superheroes means nothing. BvS proves that. Being a quality and entertaining film is what matter.
Better phone up Disney and Feige and let them know since they promoted the ever-lovin' fuck out of Civil War as a movie where Robert Downey, Jr. shares the limelight equally with Evans' — like it's Iron Man 4 — and hey, don't show all the heroes interacting or anything. They spoiled a few money shots in all those trailers. Yeah, Spider-Man's reveal had nothing to do with promoting the movie. It was all about "being a quality and entertaining film." Depending on who you talk to, those shitty Transformers movies qualify, too. How about the Leprechaun franchise?
You're also a hypocrite, as I previously pointed out for your dismissing Diana Prince's role in BvS as "purely promotional," when Spider-Man's is a clear-as-glass "HELLO! I'M IN THE MCU NOW!" Jack-in-the-Box-style pop-up in CW.
Next topic!
Monker wrote:Also, thanks for indirectly admitting that in your Monkerverse, quality cinema is synonymous with ticket sales. So that piece o' shit Avatar is obviously the best fucking film ever made!
Some people think it was. What it was is innovative and pushed technology to a new level. Again, people were entertained by it and wanted to experience that world over and over again.
Doesn't mean it wasn't shit. I also didn't think the CGI was all that. Most overrated movie ever.
Monker wrote:You're a glommer, and you have always been one.
I'm not the one who compared BvS to X-Men - you guys are. Too bad you can't compare it to a quality film like TDK, or TDK:R.
More proof you missed my point about DoFP and Apocalypse and what they're supposed to represent for a now 16-year-old X-franchise. Why don't you go back, if you're not too lazy daydreaming about Neal Schon's armpit hair, and re-read everything I said about it. Next topic.
Monker wrote:verslibre wrote:And I will continue to talk up the Nolan trilogy at will, because you can rest assured Civil War, which is described as "fun," "entertaining," "action-packed," and every associated synonym in Webster's, is still not, and never will be, the critical darling that The Dark Knight is (remember, now I'm talking about the 2008 film, not the 2012 film, so you don't get confused again).
It doesn't matter which film nowadays....since Civil War outsold both of them now.
Yep, you are definitely of the "more/most money made = better/best movie ever" mindset. Or are you just a pseudo-Marvel fanboy? I mean, you don't care about the comics where all these stories originated, so you can't even be a real fanboy. Just a wannabe fanboy. Next topic!
Monker wrote:And, which one of you guys said just a few weeks ago that critics don't matter? I guess they only matter when they have good things to say.
If that were the case, I wouldn't have shot down with unprecedented ease some of the stupid non-points the "critics" said about BvS. Next.
Monker wrote:verslibre wrote:No, they don't need to go to Marvel.
Then don't imply they are Marvel films.
They are movies made with IPs that Marvel sold to fend off bankruptcy woes 20 years ago. That's why remarks like "they should let the rights revert back to Marvel" make no sense. Marvel sold the film rights to them, but they are MARVEL COMICS characters nonetheless, and tough shit. They're Marvel movies (the difference being the word Studios), and that's why you see this at the beginning of each film:
Get over it. Next!