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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:57 am
by Boomchild
Fact Finder wrote:Saudi king agrees in call with Trump to support Syria, Yemen safe zones -White House

https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-king-a ... 32329.html


Of course he would. As long it doesn't call for Saudi Arabia taking any of these refugees in.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:58 am
by Boomchild
Fact Finder wrote:It's too easy...

WASHINGTON, Jan. 14, 1993 — Saying that he feared a mass exodus of Haitians unless he acted, President-elect Bill Clinton announced today that he would at least temporarily abandon a campaign pledge and would continue the Bush Administration's policy of forcibly returning Haitians who try to emigrate to the United States.


Damn history is a bitch!

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:38 pm
by Boomchild
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The Saudi's give permission for american airbases,ect when needed. They also are not harboring ISIS Terrorists inside their country, at least openly. The Countries banned have active war zones, pirates ect. I would invite any liberal having a problem with the countries banned to travel there for their vacations. I am not a fan of the Saudi's, but Turkey isn't exactly a trustworthy friend either. That's why I'm a "drill baby drill" person. Every drop of American oil is money out of OPEC pockets.


These are all separate issues to the fact Saudi Arabia has not and never will agree to take in any of these refugees all the while they have facilities to do so. So in my mind, before anyone criticizes any anyone else about not helping these refugees the world deserves an answer from the Saudis. The U.N. should be pressuring them on it and as far as I know they haven't.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:48 am
by Boomchild
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Agreed, but we still need them for when we will have to bomb the shit out of Iran someday for the mess Obama made out of the bush mess. Both of them were Globalist idiots.


My hope is that we won't have to do that. That Iran will realize it's a new day and new sheriff in town. But, if we go by history the only thing people in that region understand is death and destruction.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:50 am
by Boomchild
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:05 am
by tj
Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The Saudi's give permission for american airbases,ect when needed. They also are not harboring ISIS Terrorists inside their country, at least openly. The Countries banned have active war zones, pirates ect. I would invite any liberal having a problem with the countries banned to travel there for their vacations. I am not a fan of the Saudi's, but Turkey isn't exactly a trustworthy friend either. That's why I'm a "drill baby drill" person. Every drop of American oil is money out of OPEC pockets.


These are all separate issues to the fact Saudi Arabia has not and never will agree to take in any of these refugees all the while they have facilities to do so. So in my mind, before anyone criticizes any anyone else about not helping these refugees the world deserves an answer from the Saudis. The U.N. should be pressuring them on it and as far as I know they haven't.


The Saudi royal family reigns very precariously. They won't bring in people who could upset the political balance of power, which many of these refugees would do. The royal family's rule and lives rest upon keeping order and bringing in people who might even remotely shake things up won't happen.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:44 am
by Boomchild
And now for your viewing enjoyment. I like the soundtrack on this.

Protesters getting BTFO'd by cars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deht9UvkTxM

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:35 am
by verslibre
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:47 pm
by Boomchild
I think President Trump would have saved himself some grief if he would have had delayed the entry ban for a day or two to allow for those affected by it get in sync with the ban. He also just canned the acting AG who was going to attempt to halt the action. Washington is in for a rude awakening. Trump doesn't fuck around.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:24 pm
by Boomchild
Fact Finder wrote:https://www.axios.com/trump-fires-acting-a-g-2226964333.html

Trump FIRES acting Attorney General!

:P


In other words he shit canned Loretta Lynch 2.0.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:42 pm
by Boomchild
Another example of these hardworking, law'-abiding illegal aliens. Capture, Detain and Deport!

Heroin Ringleader Arrested In Florida Is An Illegal Immigrant On FOOD STAMPS! – VIDEO

A drug bust in the early hours of the morning nabbed a top leader of a heroin drug trafficking group in Polk County, Florida recently. While it didn't surprise many that the ringleader who was arrested is an illegal immigrant, what was surprising was that he had been receiving almost $900 a month in government issued food stamps.

http://usherald.com/heroin-ringleader-a ... mps-video/


Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:33 pm
by Boomchild
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:35 pm
by UncleKG
Boomchild wrote:Image


Yeah, about that...http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/dearborns-anti-isis-rally/ Never let the facts get in the way of a good story, right?

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:37 pm
by UncleKG
Just so we're clear on this...

"For instance, the chance of an American being murdered in a terrorist attack caused by a refugee is 1 in 3.64 billion per year while the chance of being murdered in an attack committed by an illegal immigrant is an astronomical 1 in 10.9 billion per year."

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/terrorism-immigration-risk-analysis

I'm fine with the deportation of illegal immigrants, but don't think for a second the refugee ban is going to have any discernible effect.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:42 pm
by UncleKG
Boomchild wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly. ___Jimmy Carter April 7, 1980



But, he was a Democrat so that is OK.


Conveniently left out of this is that this was during the Iranian hostage crisis. Is there a hostage crisis the "Fake News" isn't covering?

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:54 pm
by UncleKG
Drump on Twitter: "If the ban were announced with a one week notice, the "bad" would rush into our country during that week. A lot of bad "dudes" out there!"

The "bad" would "rush" into our country? Yeah, about that...

"The worldwide average (for immigration vetting in the U.S.) is between a year to a year and a half. For Syrian refugees, it takes two years on average."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/15/jeb-bush/jeb-bush-it-takes-almost-year-refugee-be-processed/

More cow pies issuing forth from the Drump's mouth and (unsecured) phone.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:09 am
by UncleKG
For your reading "pleasure," Drump fans.

"...the administration is testing the extent to which the DHS (and other executive agencies) can act and ignore orders from the other branches of government. This is as serious as it can possibly get: all of the arguments about whether order X or Y is unconstitutional mean nothing if elements of the government are executing them and the courts are being ignored.

Yesterday was the trial balloon for a coup d’état against the United States. It gave them useful information."

Another very interesting part of the piece:

"On Wednesday, Reuters reported (in great detail) how 19.5% of Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company, has been sold to parties unknown. This was done through a dizzying array of shell companies, so that the most that can be said with certainty now is that the money 'paying' for it was originally loaned out to the shell layers by VTB (the government’s official bank), even though it’s highly unclear who, if anyone, would be paying that loan back; and the recipients have been traced as far as some Cayman Islands shell companies.

Why is this interesting? Because the much-maligned Steele Dossier (the one with the golden showers in it) included the statement that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft if he became president and removed sanctions. The reason this is so interesting is that the dossier said this in July, and the sale didn’t happen until early December. And 19.5% sounds an awful lot like '19% plus a brokerage commission.'

Cue the "tinfoil hat" comments.

https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.ry0tk3xba

Here's the Reuters article on the oil company sale: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-privatisation-insight-idUSKBN1582OH

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:21 am
by UncleKG

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:22 am
by UncleKG
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
UncleKG wrote:Drump on Twitter: "If the ban were announced with a one week notice, the "bad" would rush into our country during that week. A lot of bad "dudes" out there!"

The "bad" would "rush" into our country? Yeah, about that...

"The worldwide average (for immigration vetting in the U.S.) is between a year to a year and a half. For Syrian refugees, it takes two years on average."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/15/jeb-bush/jeb-bush-it-takes-almost-year-refugee-be-processed/

More cow pies issuing forth from the Drump's mouth and (unsecured) phone.


Letting them in worked so well in Germany and Sweeden, didn't it? Trump is right. They need U.N. protected safe zones in their own countries.


When the facts don't agree with your worldview, ignore the facts and talk about something else. Well done.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:35 am
by UncleKG
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I love the sound of Globalist Liberals going squash under Trumps foot in the morning.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-execut ... l#comments


Can you say, "arbitrary?" I knew that you could.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:31 am
by UncleKG


A lot of people think McDonald's is a good restaurant. Doesn't make them correct.

Also, you keep talking about Germany and Sweden. Germany had an "open door" policy. At no point has the U.S had anything close to that.

Sweden's going to deport those whose applications are denied. Those people would very likely never have gotten into the U.S. to begin with.

I invite you to address the stat that your chances of being killed by a refugee on US soil are 1 in 3.64 billion per year.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:44 am
by UncleKG
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
I invite you to shut up. Trump is trying to keep it that way, or lower the odds. I understand that would be over a liberal head.


So, he's "fixing" something that doesn't need fixing. I understand you prove you're a Drump lap dog on an hourly basis, Cherry Bomb.

"Drump's doing something!!" "Yeah, but it's not a problem to begin with." "Yeah, well, but he's doing something!" "It's not going to have any meaningful effect." "But he's doing something!!" :lol:

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:35 am
by verslibre
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I invite you to shut up. Trump is trying to keep it that way, or lower the odds. I understand that would be over a liberal head.


Eloquence...not your game. :lol:

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:36 am
by verslibre
I just cannot believe some of you are perfectly okay with Bannon. That is...crazy. Disturbing.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:54 am
by UncleKG
http://www.gq.com/story/aclu-anthony-romero-trumpimmigration-ban-trump

"...the incompetence with which they rolled out the executive order was breathtaking. The fact that government officials didn’t know how to apply it. That Customs and Border Protection agents were not briefed about how to deal with individuals coming into the country. That airport personnel were not trained, that the embassies were not given any guidance. That the government’s own lawyers didn’t know what arguments to make. When they were up in the court yesterday, it wasn’t even clear who was arguing for the government. This was a Keystone Kops moment for the Trump administration."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/31/speaker-defends-trump-order-warns-protests.html
"Throughout the day Monday, as confusion continued at home and abroad over the scope and implementation of the order, White House officials led by press secretary Sean Spicer insisted that Hill Republicans were involved in drafting the order and were aware of it beforehand. Yet top aides to House GOP leaders repeatedly disputed that assertion, leaving it unclear what Spicer was talking about.

Finally late Monday, confirming some details of a report in Politico, the House Judiciary Committee said that some staff members had been "permitted" to lend their expertise on immigration to the Trump transition team. Yet leadership was not aware, and earlier in the day committee officials had said that the panel's chairman, Rep. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia, was not consulted on drafting the executive order, so the staff effort appeared to take place behind the backs of top House Republicans, an unusual circumstance."

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:04 am
by verslibre
^The LAPD already said forget it. The Chief said they can't be cops and immigration detail at the same time. Other cities have chimed in.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:53 am
by Boomchild
UncleKG wrote:Conveniently left out of this is that this was during the Iranian hostage crisis. Is there a hostage crisis the "Fake News" isn't covering?


No there isn't a hostage crisis. But something far worse, international terrorism stemming from the countries included in the temporary ban. Countries that were identified both by Congress and the Obama administration to having a high amount of terrorist activity.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:24 am
by Boomchild
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Ask Merkel how well it's working out for her. Sweeden is about to throw them out. Stop lying.


Sweden’s state-funded broadcaster has revealed that of 163,000 migrants who came to Sweden, less than 500 have found jobs.

Sweden saw a record 163,000 applications for asylum last year as a result of the migrant crisis and many Swedes were assured that the new arrivals would contribute to the economy; but new research from Sweden’s state-owned SVT reveals that fewer than 500 migrants have found work.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06 ... bs-sweden/


Refugees: Welcome to Sweden, You'll Get a Job in a Decade

He could be one of the lucky ones as soon as he gets his residence permit, in a year or so. But if the past is anything to go by, about half of the refugees arriving today in the Nordic nation will still be unemployed by 2025.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... n-a-decade


Merkel's open-door policy hits German economy as 99% of migrants STILL don't have a job


THE German chancellor's controversial open-door migrant policy has been dealt another catastrophic blow after it emerged only 1 in every 10,000 migrants who arrived since last year has a job

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/710 ... oor-policy



Refugees won’t plug German labor gap

Few refugees from Syria and other war zones have vocational training or a degree.


“Let’s not delude ourselves,” said Ludger Wößmann, director of Munich-based Ifo Center for the Economics of Education. “From everything we know so far, it seems that the majority of refugees would first need extensive training and even then it’s far from certain that it would work out.”

http://www.politico.eu/article/refugees ... kills-gap/

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:36 am
by UncleKG
Boomchild wrote:
UncleKG wrote:Conveniently left out of this is that this was during the Iranian hostage crisis. Is there a hostage crisis the "Fake News" isn't covering?


No there isn't a hostage crisis. But something far worse, international terrorism stemming from the countries included in the temporary ban. Countries that were identified both by Congress and the Obama administration to having a high amount of terrorist activity.


A 1 in 3.42 BILLION chance of being killed on US soil by a refugee. We don't have a refugee issue that needs "fixing." Political theater.

Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:37 am
by Boomchild
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I invite you to shut up. Trump is trying to keep it that way, or lower the odds. I understand that would be over a liberal head.


Not to mention that transplanting these refugees to an entirely different culture with a different language and little prospect of having skills to obtain a job is not in the their best interest. Also what doesn't help is that a large percentage of the refugees are illiterate in their own language. It would be better to find them resettlement in their own region of the world as well as setting up "safe zones" as Trump is suggesting so that they can return to their country when the fighting has stopped. Then you have the issue that 95 million Americans cannot find work and some want to add more people to the pool. People that have many more challenges to finding work then the average American.