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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:54 am

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Andrew wrote:Brazen and open corruption at every turn. Trump and his AG are as crooked as each other. Stunning how big a fuck you this Roger Stone bullshit is to the whole country. Wow.


If you think Stone did anything remotely deserving 9 years, you are watching fake news. And you must feel so many others, like Comey, Hillary, etc. deserve 20 years.


Stone is a convicted criminal being sentenced with federal prosecutors giving recommendations.

Comey and Hillary have not even been charged with a crime.

So, no, unlike you, I do not believe in anarchy, where people can be sentenced to crimes without being charged and convicted, and I do not believe the President or AG should interfere with that process either. If Trump doesn't like the sentence, he can pardon him...and face any political consequence in November.

But, our normal rule of law no longer applies in this country when it involves the Presidency. Too many people believe Trump can do whatever he wants...and that he can act like Kim, Putin, and Xi, Pretty sad that people like you support that type of shift. IMO, we are not too far away from people like you supporting people like Hillary and Comey facing a firing squad and executed without a trial.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:28 pm

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Andrew wrote:Brazen and open corruption at every turn. Trump and his AG are as crooked as each other. Stunning how big a fuck you this Roger Stone bullshit is to the whole country. Wow.


If you think Stone did anything remotely deserving 9 years, you are watching fake news. And you must feel so many others, like Comey, Hillary, etc. deserve 20 years.


I'm not brainwashed by Fox News.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:41 pm

Now we have a proper title. Get ready for 4 more years. The Dems are a DISASTER. Bernie for the win for Dems, and the biggest landslide in history for Trump. You heard it hear first.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby AR » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:18 pm

This shows the true hypocrisy of the left. OBama, Schumer and the Clintons from a few years ago all sounding exactly like Trump on immigration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K14GsGwdhFQ&fbclid=IwAR0Z-cMzj_T5MA4AgWmN-o0-TUZSki6Vsaw127xLpLOOXtVLecbpv41PW_M
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:40 pm

Aaron wrote:Now we have a proper title. Get ready for 4 more years. The Dems are a DISASTER. Bernie for the win for Dems, and the biggest landslide in history for Trump. You heard it hear first.


Bernie is FAR being nominated. Mayor Pete is actually ahead in delegates. Biden may do well in both Nevada and South Carolina. And, at this point, maybe Bloomberg may do well on Super Tuesday. The Democrats may have a brokered convention where no candidate has enough delegates to win.

No matter who the Democrats choose, I doubt Trump can win in a "landslide".
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:28 pm

Anyone care to attempt to explain why dickhead always points at the cameras during his ego-boost rallies and after calling them fake news and other disgraceful things, goes on to say "they're turning their recording lights off" and "they've stopped broadcasting", when literally NONE of them have EVER done that and the claims are simply shown as complete lies by watching the actual broadcasts.

Why does he keep saying stupid shit like this?
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:37 am

Andrew wrote:Anyone care to attempt to explain why dickhead always points at the cameras during his ego-boost rallies and after calling them fake news and other disgraceful things, goes on to say "they're turning their recording lights off" and "they've stopped broadcasting", when literally NONE of them have EVER done that and the claims are simply shown as complete lies by watching the actual broadcasts.

Why does he keep saying stupid shit like this?


Why did Ozzy bite the head off a bat?

It's what his audience expects him to do.

His rallies are a show more than a political rally. The truth doesn't matter. The bat can be fake or not...it's all about the show.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:59 am

I agree about the show.

I guess we should be used to his flat out bald faced lies by now.

No Trump fans care to comment? It seems all the right wingers have made a collective decision not to post here any more. Oh well...such is life.

Board stats are actually up overall :lol:
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:28 pm

Bernie will take the win if not whacked before hand by his own party. To be real, I don't think Pete can do it. The people proved with Obama's election the population is not racist. I'm not sure the people can bridge the Pete gap. I hope they vote their heart but I'm not sure Pete is electable.

Bottom line is Bernie is their guy. If the Clinton's don't have him whacked or the DNC doesn't whack him he'll be your looser demitard nominee.

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Aaron wrote:Now we have a proper title. Get ready for 4 more years. The Dems are a DISASTER. Bernie for the win for Dems, and the biggest landslide in history for Trump. You heard it hear first.


Bernie is FAR being nominated. Mayor Pete is actually ahead in delegates. Biden may do well in both Nevada and South Carolina. And, at this point, maybe Bloomberg may do well on Super Tuesday. The Democrats may have a brokered convention where no candidate has enough delegates to win.

No matter who the Democrats choose, I doubt Trump can win in a "landslide".
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:31 pm

You need to request a scan of the crowd at a Trump rally with 25k people, a complete scan. And then request the same at Sanders rally with 100 people. There's not enough filters/lens/software to hide it.



Andrew wrote:Anyone care to attempt to explain why dickhead always points at the cameras during his ego-boost rallies and after calling them fake news and other disgraceful things, goes on to say "they're turning their recording lights off" and "they've stopped broadcasting", when literally NONE of them have EVER done that and the claims are simply shown as complete lies by watching the actual broadcasts.

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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:35 am

It's hard to keep hearing all the negativity. Trump this, Trump that.... To what end? It gets so boring. You can ask why he points at cameras and why he tweets this or that. But people who believe those things to be disqualifying never voted for him in the first place. It's not like he became president and suddenly people thought oh, this is what he's about. He's never not been that. So it's like, we've heard it a million times. Trump does lie, usually in regards to boasting and ego stuff. No one cares. Or I should say no one who voted for him cares. So why keep addressing it? He is actually quite entertaining and when you think about the forces he's up against, you kind of realize he would get nowhere if he was a Bush/Romney type. The only success he would have is those that the ruling elites wanted. And as much as you think Trump is out of control, at least he's open and honest and up front about it. The people working against him are pretty much just snakes in the grass. It's ok to dislike Trump's personality and it's absolutely ok to find that behavior bad enough that you would not vote for him. No one is saying people have to like the guy. But I also don't feel the need to defend every little thing. Sometimes the answer is simply that he is what he is.

As far as the election, it's not even fun at this point. The convention is likely to be nutty. If they try and take this from Bernie, and they will, it's going to be war in the Dem party. Hopefully two parties will emerge. Sane Dems and Socialists. The Republicans have their majority plus Never Trumpers.

I do wonder if Hilary jumping in could excite the Dems enough to make it a contest. But if it's anyone from the remaining group of candidates, this is just going to be an ass kicking. If it's Bernie, not only is it going to be an ass kicking, but a lot of house races will be lost for the Dems. We are not a socialist country, no matter how loud that faction is. Universal health care and free tuition and all that sounds nice, but no one can do any numbers on it in a way that would sell it to Americans. Add in the green new deal and watch how many Dems stay home on election day. Climate change has never polled high on the list of American's concerns. Not that they aren't concerned, it's just that they know other things are important to their daily lives.

All this while Trump has never been more popular than he is today. The excitement in his base is higher than ever before. You could tell his base that the win is in the bag and there is no need to go to vote and they would still show up, MAGA hat in the front seat of their Ford F150.

I think this election all comes down to the house. That is going to determine the next four years. The Dems know this, and it's why the party leaders want anyone but Bernie. I think they feel with Bernie, they stand to lose the house. Without Bernie, they know they will lose the presidential election, but could save the house.

That said, a market crash, corona-virus insanity, or some major new scandal could of course change all that.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:44 am

Aaron wrote:You need to request a scan of the crowd at a Trump rally with 25k people, a complete scan. And then request the same at Sanders rally with 100 people. There's not enough filters/lens/software to hide it.


People like you were making this same type of comment last time...the reality is the Hillary won the popular vote. The size of his rally crowds do not equate to the number of people willing to vote for him. That is a simple fact proven in 2016.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:52 am

Aaron wrote:Bernie will take the win if not whacked before hand by his own party.


Bernie is only a Democrat when he decides to run for President. He is an independent, not a Democrat. This is a fact that I brought up in this forum MONTHS ago that only now is being used against him by the others running for the Democrat nomination.

[/quote]To be real, I don't think Pete can do it. The people proved with Obama's election the population is not racist. I'm not sure the people can bridge the Pete gap. I hope they vote their heart but I'm not sure Pete is electable. [/quote]

ANY of them can do it at this point.

Bottom line is Bernie is their guy.


At this moment in time he is the front runner. But, Biden will win South Carolina, and there are a lot of days before Super Tuesday and a lot of time for people to change who they are going to vote for.

If the Clinton's don't have him whacked or the DNC doesn't whack him he'll be your looser demitard nominee.


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A very foolish thing to say, considering that Trump barely won last time.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:14 am

Aaron wrote:You need to request a scan of the crowd at a Trump rally with 25k people


Yes, I have seen those half full arenas.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:10 pm

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Aaron wrote:You need to request a scan of the crowd at a Trump rally with 25k people


Yes, I have seen those half full arenas.


You will have to show me when that was. Often the outside crowd that couldn't get in is even bigger.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:36 am

Memorex wrote:It's hard to keep hearing all the negativity. Trump this, Trump that.... To what end? It gets so boring. You can ask why he points at cameras and why he tweets this or that. But people who believe those things to be disqualifying never voted for him in the first place. It's not like he became president and suddenly people thought oh, this is what he's about. He's never not been that. So it's like, we've heard it a million times. Trump does lie, usually in regards to boasting and ego stuff. No one cares. Or I should say no one who voted for him cares.


It is a sad state of politics when people are saying that no one cares that the President of the United States constantly lies. It is not just about boasting or ego. My God, he lied about the predicted path of a hurricane. The entire birther thing was a lie. Just yesterday he stood in front of the press and downplayed the impact of the coronaviris...and pretended that Mike Pence is somehow qualified to lead the effort against it....while everybody else who spoke was warning against the potential impact in coming months. He lied about unemployment during Obama, saying the unemployment rate being promoted around %4 was a lie it was really up to %30...which was a ridiculous comment. But, now that he is in office the reported unemployment rate is not a lie, it's real. He lied about the tax cut, admitting it was a corporate tax cut. He lied to congress various time regarding what he would sign for health care...prompting McConnell to say that there was no use in passing a bill until Trump decided what he would sign. He lied about the Dreamers, he lied about what he would accept for gun control. HE CONSTANTLY LIES. It seems to me that every time he does some speech, he lies in it.

So why keep addressing it? He is actually quite entertaining and when you think about the forces he's up against, you kind of realize he would get nowhere if he was a Bush/Romney type.


Oh, please. He had health care and immigration compromises ready to pass and sign but since he lied and back out on what was acceptable, they went nowhere. Any Bush (Jeb!, W, GHW), or Romney would have got shit done. He is not a deal maker. He doesn't know what he is doing. The only thing he knows how to do is dictate and do presidential orders and other things that do not need congress, or things like New Nafta that nobody has an issue with.

The only success he would have is those that the ruling elites wanted. And as much as you think Trump is out of control, at least he's open and honest and up front about it.


LOL! If he is open and honest, he would release his tax returns, he would not have done a blanket executive privilege and refused to allow ANY witnesses or documents in his impeachment. Calling Trump "open and honest" is complete bullshit.

It's ok to dislike Trump's personality and it's absolutely ok to find that behavior bad enough that you would not vote for him. No one is saying people have to like the guy. But I also don't feel the need to defend every little thing. Sometimes the answer is simply that he is what he is.


If Bloomberg was nominated prior to this Trump fiasco, people like you would throw an absolute fit over these NDA's and his treatment of woman. But, for Trump, "that is what he is," and you wholeheartedly accept that he is a womanizer with multiple NDA's. What you are saying is pathetic and hypocritical. That is just one example of your utter hypocrisy.

As far as the election, it's not even fun at this point. The convention is likely to be nutty. If they try and take this from Bernie, and they will, it's going to be war in the Dem party. Hopefully two parties will emerge. Sane Dems and Socialists. The Republicans have their majority plus Never Trumpers.


If Bernie gets the needed delegates in the first vote, then it is over. If it goes to the Super delegates, IMO, it would not surprise me AT ALL if the Democrats decide to nominate a Democrat rather than an Independent using the party to run for office. The party will do what it needs to do to protect itself...just as Ted Cruz was willing to do to Trump.

That Democrats are not going to split into two parties. That is just sille.
The Republicans had a lot of people leave who can't stand Trump....many of those never trumpers. I do not believe the party grew as many think it did. Show me the numbers.

I do wonder if Hilary jumping in could excite the Dems enough to make it a contest.


That is also silly and would never happen.

But if it's anyone from the remaining group of candidates, this is just going to be an ass kicking. If it's Bernie, not only is it going to be an ass kicking, but a lot of house races will be lost for the Dems. We are not a socialist country, no matter how loud that faction is. Universal health care and free tuition and all that sounds nice, but no one can do any numbers on it in a way that would sell it to Americans. Add in the green new deal and watch how many Dems stay home on election day. Climate change has never polled high on the list of American's concerns. Not that they aren't concerned, it's just that they know other things are important to their daily lives.


You listen to too many pundits and are not making common sense. It is too early to predict ANY of this. I don't care what you are watching, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, whatever...all of this talk is just for filler and ratings. None of it is predictable. The state of things in February can not predict an election in November.

All this while Trump has never been more popular than he is today.


Not true...the poll averages are still in the mid-40's....right about where he always is.

The excitement in his base is higher than ever before. You could tell his base that the win is in the bag and there is no need to go to vote and they would still show up, MAGA hat in the front seat of their Ford F150.


Again, more predictions for things that you can't predict.

I think this election all comes down to the house. That is going to determine the next four years. The Dems know this, and it's why the party leaders want anyone but Bernie. I think they feel with Bernie, they stand to lose the house. Without Bernie, they know they will lose the presidential election, but could save the house.


That doesn't even make sense. Look at what Pelosi is saying. The House is it's own thing and those elections are not going to run off of the policy positions of the Presidential nominee. The simple fact is that Bernie IS NOT A DEMOCRAT and he is a self proclaimed SOCIALIST...so of course the party leaders are not going to like him.

That said, a market crash, corona-virus insanity, or some major new scandal could of course change all that.


Trump making an oddball speech can change things. The election in November is NOT PREDICTABLE at this point.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:24 am

“Three weeks ago there was much talk of a “Chernobyl moment” for China’s Communist Party, discredited by totalitarian attempts to suppress news of the spreading coronavirus in Wuhan. But fast-moving events can play wicked tricks, especially on a White House allergic to scientific facts.

The new coronavirus, or COVID-19, is more likely to be the Chernobyl moment for US President Donald Trump. His systematic destruction of the US pandemic defences – policy vandalism of the first order – and his surreal efforts to conjure away the virus with denialist spin suddenly brings an unthinkable prospect into play.”
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:25 am

How’s the stock market going there Donnie?
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:11 pm

Andrew wrote:“Three weeks ago there was much talk of a “Chernobyl moment” for China’s Communist Party, discredited by totalitarian attempts to suppress news of the spreading coronavirus in Wuhan. But fast-moving events can play wicked tricks, especially on a White House allergic to scientific facts.

The new coronavirus, or COVID-19, is more likely to be the Chernobyl moment for US President Donald Trump. His systematic destruction of the US pandemic defences – policy vandalism of the first order – and his surreal efforts to conjure away the virus with denialist spin suddenly brings an unthinkable prospect into play.”


This is true. Here is an article from years ago that predicted this situation:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... e-response

As for the stock market...we have been in a bubble now for a long time. The market was WAY over valued considering all of the indicators of a coming recession and the various tariffs. So, the coronavirus may have popped that bubble. There was absolutely no reason for the markets to climbing the past year to 30,000. That is a crazy amount. A correction was WAY over due.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:01 pm

Get ready for a major surprise. We DGAF about pomp and circumstance. We do care about delivery. I'm worried you Aussie's have to much Brit in you. :)

Andrew wrote:I think the hard right are a very vocal minority. I can't see how the majority of Americans would want this wanker representing them any longer than is necessary.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:02 pm

We'll have no data her sir. The sky is falling, aaaahhhhhhhhhh! :D

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Andrew wrote:I think the hard right are a very vocal minority. I can't see how the majority of Americans would want this wanker representing them any longer than is necessary.


I see you haven't been looking at the latest polls or the low Dem turnout in Iowa. I think it is fairly safe to say that Trump will win by an even larger margin this year.

Americans are very forgiving of the way one speaks when you double their 401k and increase their wages.
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Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:07 pm

Na, he's just a business man that see's the big picture and is willing to manage it for the best result for the USA. Most people don't see it. He a bit in generalities and estimates because he thinks on a big high level which opens him up to being called a liar by detailed oriented people.

He doesn't listen to "experts" or follow "political leaders" because he's driving his own boat and in most cases, disrupting the power of non value added bureaucrats who have made careers by delivering nothing. It's the same in big business. I watch it every day.

Andrew wrote:Watch Trumps victory speech today and please, please try and tell me he’s not a completely unhinged insane sniffling old man.
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Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:09 pm

Our economy, wages and market results would disagree with your Aussie feelings.

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Andrew wrote:Watch Trumps victory speech today and please, please try and tell me he’s not a completely unhinged insane sniffling old man.


It was a rant, not a speech. Anybody who thinks he learned any type of lesson from being impeached is wrong.


Widely mocked here in AU. He’s just the most vile, clueless, narcissistic person I’ve ever had the misfortune to endure.
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Postby Andrew » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:09 pm

Aaron wrote:Get ready for a major surprise. We DGAF about pomp and circumstance. We do care about delivery. I'm worried you Aussie's have to much Brit in you. :)

Andrew wrote:I think the hard right are a very vocal minority. I can't see how the majority of Americans would want this wanker representing them any longer than is necessary.


Hell no! haha

BTW - 90% of Trumps presidency has been about pomp and ceremony to inflate his fragile ego.
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Postby Andrew » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:11 pm

Aaron wrote: Most people don't see it.


Because it's not there. He's a fool. Dow 3000 point fall this week...oops.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:18 pm

You're right and it's called conditional application of the law, which sucks. If you have a look at both sides of the coin you'll see the bureaucracy and media support the same narrative which supports progressives.

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Andrew wrote:Brazen and open corruption at every turn. Trump and his AG are as crooked as each other. Stunning how big a fuck you this Roger Stone bullshit is to the whole country. Wow.


If you think Stone did anything remotely deserving 9 years, you are watching fake news. And you must feel so many others, like Comey, Hillary, etc. deserve 20 years.


Stone is a convicted criminal being sentenced with federal prosecutors giving recommendations.

Comey and Hillary have not even been charged with a crime.

So, no, unlike you, I do not believe in anarchy, where people can be sentenced to crimes without being charged and convicted, and I do not believe the President or AG should interfere with that process either. If Trump doesn't like the sentence, he can pardon him...and face any political consequence in November.

But, our normal rule of law no longer applies in this country when it involves the Presidency. Too many people believe Trump can do whatever he wants...and that he can act like Kim, Putin, and Xi, Pretty sad that people like you support that type of shift. IMO, we are not too far away from people like you supporting people like Hillary and Comey facing a firing squad and executed without a trial.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:26 pm

He says crap like that because the media skew the view here. They try to minimize attendance at Trump events and maximize attendance at Lib events to deceive their audience. They don't show the full crowds at Trump events at large arenas. Nor do they show the lines around the block trying to get in that can't because the venues are full.

In comparison, they do everything they can to make Lib events look larger and more important than they are to support their narrative. It's embarrassing actually. Real journalism is gone in the US. Hopefully it's not where you are.

In reality, Trump has sell out attendance in large arenas around the US (25K peeps or larger). Libs are luck to bring in 500 people at one of their events. People need to look at the real data.


Andrew wrote:Anyone care to attempt to explain why dickhead always points at the cameras during his ego-boost rallies and after calling them fake news and other disgraceful things, goes on to say "they're turning their recording lights off" and "they've stopped broadcasting", when literally NONE of them have EVER done that and the claims are simply shown as complete lies by watching the actual broadcasts.

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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:29 pm

I think I have been sir. :) You're not paying attention. And to be honest, I've not seen any data based feedback from non Trump fans other than emotion.

If board results are up I'm happy to drop out.

Andrew wrote:I agree about the show.

I guess we should be used to his flat out bald faced lies by now.

No Trump fans care to comment? It seems all the right wingers have made a collective decision not to post here any more. Oh well...such is life.

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