Journey Foulup Again

[Soledad?]

Why is it so wrong to state my opinion, however negative it may be? I have endured much rude abuse here simply for stating what I deem to be the truth. I have been told to get lost, and that I am talking out of my ass, courtesy of Noble Cause, and that I am a moron, and a sonofabitch, courtesy of RocknDeano. Yet because I simply assert my POV, which happens to deviate from the standard POV here, I am threatened with a ban.

I don't understand, and think that's discriminatory. Please explain.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Why is it so wrong to state my opinion, however negative it may be?

It's not that it's negative, it's that your being dogmatic and really have no facts to speak of. Your not interested in honest discussion, u just want to ram your postulations down everyone's throats and to hell with what anyone else has to say.

You say this band doesn't take risks, I refuted that and listed several risks for u to consider, but you wouldn't concede even an inch; u let your anti-Augeri sentiments get in the way of recognizing even the simplest of truths.

That to me isn't real discussion.

Take off the partisan blinders and then maybe more people here will be receptive to your thoughts.

For an example of a good negative post, go click on Jeremy's Generations review.

I have endured much rude abuse here simply for stating what I deem to be the truth.
I have been told to get lost, and that I am talking out of my ass, courtesy of Noble Cause,

That's largely because u were and still are.
Tall Stories WAS NOT a Journey cover band.
Augeri does NOT look like Perry etc etc. etc. etc.

I am threatened with a ban.

Where? Andrew didn't threaten to do anything.

Yet because I simply assert my POV, which happens to deviate from the standard POV here, I am threatened with a ban.

Your POV is this; I miss Steve Perry and therefore, I will just merrily go on a bashing spree of all things current lineup related.
Sorry. That doesn't pass for legitimate discourse here.

[Andrew]

I have endured much rude abuse here simply for stating what I deem to be the truth.

You have stated that it is THE truth, not the truth as YOU see it.

Your correction is appreciated.

[Rockindeano]

You all are like caged tigers. Don't threaten the Journey fans, god forbid!

Perry rules, Augeri bites. FACT.

Perhaps you would feel more at home at another forum?

Why be nice to this prick. Boot it the fuck outta here..Clearly it is one of the loons dressed in drag...

No, that wasn't an attack..

Look, whatever this thing is, we were duped by the fact we responded to it for 2-3 pages. Andrew, we welcome debate, like Mr Cause said, but at least have a take and dont suck. He/she is just trying to derail the MR train.. If he/she were to come in a even "sort of have a point" rather than hate, "it" would be welcomed. But IMO, this guy is a complete shit stirrer.

[Abitaman]

You all are like caged tigers. Don't threaten the Journey fans, god forbid!

Perry rules, Augeri bites. FACT.

Perhaps you would feel more at home at another forum?

Preach on Andrew-ERIC

[Red13JoePa]

Sole?
ya came in blazing away on Augeri with elonquently stated critiqes like "Augeri bites."

Some of the good posters here have swung wrecking balls loaded with facts at your crap so you deploy the tactic of showing bogus sings of distress of being abused to get Andrew's attention.
He did not buy it because the abuse didn't happen, and hold off on hitting the send on that PM because I'm guessing you didn't read that he does not like tearful pms complainig about other posters. It cuts into his day job. If you're gonna start things like this he wants you to handle yourself.
We're not caged animals because we gave you reasons to give Augie a chance (Deen will get you a cd if you ask nice) or correct your ridiculous statement that he LOOKS like Perry.
I was wrong, the one WITHOUT the was tougher.

[Rockindeano]

Goddammit...Red13, 28 and others..

I am Dean

Deen is the drummer
Not like I give monkey's penis tho

[OpeningAct]

Why is it so wrong to state my opinion, however negative it may be? I have endured much rude abuse here simply for stating what I deem to be the truth. I have been told to get lost, and that I am talking out of my ass, courtesy of Noble Cause, and that I am a moron, and a sonofabitch, courtesy of RocknDeano. Yet because I simply assert my POV, which happens to deviate from the standard POV here, I am threatened with a ban.

I don't understand, and think that's discriminatory. Please explain.

Andrew didn't threaten you with a ban, he simply stated you may be better off at another forum. Andrew has a very slow fuse when it comes to banning people in his forums and gives ample warnings. He has more important work on his plate than banning people!
Hey, why not put up the same posts on Backtalk and see how long you last with its Mussolini Moderators running the show...

[Red13JoePa]

OA: Mussolini

Rock: That's what the hell you get for the GranmpaJoe joke in the other thread damn you.

[NoMoreTails]

I agree that Journey keeps making mistakes during this tour. What was there reason for strolling onto the concert stage so late?Journeytroll

If Journey took the stage at 9:00, this was in all likelyhood the time at which the venue/promoter decided and contracted for them to start. The review even said the started early, this is obviously the norm for this venue. They are better about starting on time than any band I've seen, always coming on within a couple of minutes of show time.

[RoyalOakRoadie]

"It's like they don't know what they're doing anymore," Castillo said, as I commented about the extended instrumentals that seemingly were going nowhere productive. "They started off doing their own thing but then went into this Santana kind of thing," he said incredulously.

I concur. Jam in your garage for fun, boys. Give us concertgoers what we want to hear: Classic tunes and, if worthy, a few select songs off your new album.

While this is a mostly positive review, I have to take issue with a "reporter" that doesnt research the history of the band being reviewed, and decides to classify older songs played as "this Santana kind of thing" because they were ignorant of the fact that these were early Journey tunes.

As for why the show ended early, there are reports of a rowdy crowd and things being thrown at the stage.

Roadie

[RoyalOakRoadie]

"It's like they don't know what they're doing anymore," Castillo said, as I commented about the extended instrumentals that seemingly were going nowhere productive. "They started off doing their own thing but then went into this Santana kind of thing," he said incredulously.

I concur. Jam in your garage for fun, boys. Give us concertgoers what we want to hear: Classic tunes and, if worthy, a few select songs off your new album.

While this is a mostly positive review, I have to take issue with a "reporter" that doesnt research the history of the band being reviewed, and decides to classify older songs played as "this Santana kind of thing" because they were ignorant of the fact that these were early Journey tunes.

As for why the show ended early, there are reports of a rowdy crowd and things being thrown at the stage. Also, it is stated on the Journey website that no CDs would be given out...

Roadie

[jrnyman28]

I have to take issue with a "reporter" that doesnt research the history of the band being reviewed, and decides to classify older songs played as "this Santana kind of thing" because they were ignorant of the fact that these were early Journey tunes.

Well, first off, that wasa response from another concert-goer. Therefore, it has merit describing an audience member's concert experience. Second, Journey DOES a Santana-thing in concert. After Neal plays Voodoo Child he segues into Gypsy Queen by Santana.

[RoyalOakRoadie]

I have to take issue with a "reporter" that doesnt research the history of the band being reviewed, and decides to classify older songs played as "this Santana kind of thing" because they were ignorant of the fact that these were early Journey tunes.

Well, first off, that wasa response from another concert-goer. Therefore, it has merit describing an audience member's concert experience. Second, Journey DOES a Santana-thing in concert. After Neal plays Voodoo Child he segues into Gypsy Queen by Santana.

Yes, but the reporter stated "I concur", and I still get the impression that the reporter was unaware of Neal's past with Santana..

Just my impression/opinion, and you know what they say about opinions

[Rockindeano]

This topic has got new life. That is why I stuck it...

Over at BT, there is a riot happening with fair management and the blind Journey fans who defend first, and get facts later...

I just posted that BOTH sides need to be responsible.

Go read the new reviews and posts..Incredible. Irving should have his dome on a stake. But he is sleeping.

[Rockindeano]

Andrew, don't censure me here, ok. I am talking on my own behalf, not on Melodicrock's.

Of course, they over there at BT closed the thread. They are fucking ridiculous. A little argument, and BAM! closing thread. What does this accomplish? How the fuck can you quiet good debate? That's what makes America great..

I guess over there, Journey can do no wrong..even though they did at Sioux Empire.

[yak]

Why be nice to this prick. Boot it the fuck outta here.. Clearly it is one of the loons dressed in drag...

Dean are you a clairvoyant without realizing it? Doesn't take rocket science, does it?

[jrnyman28]

It was not "a little arguing".
You had one person completely misrepresenting the fact and disrespecting the band and it's fans. You had fans offering up possibilities, some offering up facts and still that one person was attacking.
We are not naive here, we know that BT is for promoting the band as it is today. So of course, a thread that goes down that road will get closed.
And THEN that poster has the audacity to make a post comparing the fans and moderators of being nazis ON THEIR OWN BOARD!! Kind of stupid!

I did see your post, and I agree that both sides should make a statement. But we all know that Journey will likely stay quiet and let it blow over. (Another reason for closing the thread...they want it to 'be forgotten'.)

[Rockindeano]

I did see your post, and I agree that both sides should make a statement. But we all know that Journey will likely stay quiet and let it blow over. (Another reason for closing the thread...they want it to 'be forgotten'.)

Yeah 28, BUT, Journey are supposed to be different..Different than the Out of touch bands, the bands that are too good for BumFuckEgypt...Journey might want to say, Hey, let's make it up those South Dakotans..Ten dollars, all proceeds benefit state high schools(don't laugh, there aren't that many students in the state )) and leave a good taste in a northern tier state.

Then again, it isn't MY time, or MY money either.

But seriously, touring is not electoral math..You can't look at certain states and say, well SD has only 3 electoral votes so F them.."Let's hit California 12 times because of their enormous population..(fact: they are expected to make 10-12 stops in the Golden state.)..

[Rockindeano]

for closing the thread...they want it to 'be forgotten'.)

Yes they do. But what does that accomplish? They are in a way admitting fault, and not being responsible. If this is a reflection of management, then Journey has serious problems, and will never be a force again. What the hell is cj trying to do? She looks like Scott mcClellan defending Karl Rove. I really don't think Journey tried to screw the town, and it was either a misunderstanding or on the verge of violence with the fans...yet they want to keep it all smiles and flowers..geez....

28, I don't know about you, but I post over at BT very very rarely. I just wrote a very concise argument, and cj basically told me to go back to MR, and beat up Irving some more..I tell you, the truth really lacks over there. Neal can't like that. I will post my statement. I am sure they hate the fact that Neal swears..hey BT should get a grip..life is not all rosie.

28, here is my statement..I am sure she will delete it..

I am sorry for delving back into this, but I don't moderate the board, so my voice doesn't count, but I really believe that backing away from this is wrong. We need to resolve this, and not just let it blow over. Obviously, there is a very complex story to be told, and what happened the night in Sioux Falls needs to be investigated. Journey fans: I know you love the band unequivocally, as do I. I know some have traveled near and far, as I have. Last year, I went to 28 concerts. I am not bragging, but saying that Journey are not perfect. To defend them first without knowing all that transpired is not right. Something happened, and for the good of the situation(Journey, the fans and the city), there NEEDS to be an explanation. The way I see it so far, the Fair relased a statement..Journey has not, except for CJ's comment about Fairs having 90 mins. Ok, I went to Paso Robles, CA show, and was disappointed in the 90 mins set, (because I wanted a 10 hour show),but I understood, and the Band made it very clear as did the venue, that it was to 90 mins. No problem. By the way, wasn't that awesome? I really feel it is ok to question a certain entity if something is not right. it seems to me that Journey management is not communicating very effectively. For instance, the advertising generally throughout the cities on tour and newspapers precluding the tour all said, "An Evening with Journey." Generally, all write ups said a 3.5 hour show and a free cd will be given to fans on this tour. Neal had said it on many radio interviews. Now I know Neal cannot be in charge of everything, but Journey PR and Mgt. can and should be.
My opinion is Journey management should in fact make it clear to the residents and fans of Sioux Empire what happened. I know Journey has a very good reputation Live, and with interaction amongst fans, so I really can't see them saying, "Oh we have an option? After 90 mins, let's get the H*ll outta here!" That isn't their style, and I have never seen Journey depart via police escort. Which leads me to think there was a whole lot more going on than perhaps Radio Goddess might know. She may, or should know the fairs' alcohol policy. If a fair is selling beer(that's good), but if you are selling beer in bottles, or cans, that is completely foolish...I know South Dakota is the wild wild west, but come on? A full beer can, thrown by a hammered fan/p.oed fan, has a very accurate projectile. A cup of beer isn't going anywhere.. Radio Goddess, if your policy isn't can or bottle, I apologize.

So what I am saying is, Journey just might be at fault here. I can hear your collective fists clenching, and air letting out of your mouths, but no band is perfect. You all have to admit, that communication has been spotty at best this tour, and IMO, needs a better PR effort. Last time I checked Radio Goddess, S.D. was part of the United States, and I have read some comments about your natives stating Journey thought less of South Dakotans because of where you live. I know this to be untrue. That argument is weak. However, if I were Journey management, I would take out an newpaper ad, explaining the miscommunication to SE citizens..It would go along way in the court of fan opinion. It would echo Journey's class.

Journey fans, I respect your passion, and your love of the band, but to "blindly" defend the band when not being there is juvenile at best. All I am trying to say is Journey does make mistakes, and it is ok to acknowledge them when they do. it does not take away the love and admiration you have for the band. I am sure I will be prosecuted and reprimanded too Radio Goddess; this is a very tight group of people her, but they really are a good caring bunch..Very generous people who really go out of their way to help one another, but I do think many defended first, and found facts last...The police escort really has me double-thinking this whole thing..They had 35 hours to get to Detroit, so expedition for the trip east doesn't make sense. As for the Rush comment, maybe Neal is just referencing that as a way to describe what other bands played that type of music, and as a way of describing the music scene at the time. If he is doing it to put down Rush, then that too is wrong. Rush are a very sound, proud band, and don't deserve that...Perhaps we can get Schon to comment on that?

Sorry for the rambling. Radio Goddess, can you email at derbydeano@yahoo.com? There is something off board I would like to talk to you about.

Sorry for the ramble folks. I am as big a Journey fan as anyone, and hope you all don't hate me now too.

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[Andrew]

Why be nice to this prick. Boot it the fuck outta here..Clearly it is one of the loons dressed in drag...

That's ENOUGH thank you.

[Monker]

LOL....I missed something....

I don't see the thread she closed. She must have deleted it too. Oh, well.

Just out of curiousity, I checked how many times I have posted there in the past month....only four times, including the one where JSS went bonkers and the thread was closed/deleted.

BT is very meaningless, unless you want to praise Journey in the way Perry fans praise Perry. If you are Journey's version of OhSherry or HOTS, then that forum is for you. If there is any type of moderation within you, and you can see good and bad, then stay away from BT...Or, you can post there and censure your 'bad' side, or be banned.

And, with CJ running the show there, I think it is going to get worse, not better. ..just my opinion.

for closing the thread...they want it to 'be forgotten'.)

Yes they do. But what does that accomplish? They are in a way admitting fault, and not being responsible. If this is a reflection of management, then Journey has serious problems, and will never be a force again. What the hell is cj trying to do? She looks like Scott mcClellan defending Karl Rove. I really don't think Journey tried to screw the town, and it was either a misunderstanding or on the verge of violence with the fans...yet they want to keep it all smiles and flowers..geez....

28, I don't know about you, but I post over at BT very very rarely. I just wrote a very concise argument, and cj basically told me to go back to MR, and beat up Irving some more..I tell you, the truth really lacks over there. Neal can't like that. I will post my statement. I am sure they hate the fact that Neal swears..hey BT should get a grip..life is not all rosie.

28, here is my statement..I am sure she will delete it..

I am sorry for delving back into this, but I don't moderate the board, so my voice doesn't count, but I really believe that backing away from this is wrong. We need to resolve this, and not just let it blow over. Obviously, there is a very complex story to be told, and what happened the night in Sioux Falls needs to be investigated. Journey fans: I know you love the band unequivocally, as do I. I know some have traveled near and far, as I have. Last year, I went to 28 concerts. I am not bragging, but saying that Journey are not perfect. To defend them first without knowing all that transpired is not right. Something happened, and for the good of the situation(Journey, the fans and the city), there NEEDS to be an explanation. The way I see it so far, the Fair relased a statement..Journey has not, except for CJ's comment about Fairs having 90 mins. Ok, I went to Paso Robles, CA show, and was disappointed in the 90 mins set, (because I wanted a 10 hour show),but I understood, and the Band made it very clear as did the venue, that it was to 90 mins. No problem. By the way, wasn't that awesome? I really feel it is ok to question a certain entity if something is not right. it seems to me that Journey management is not communicating very effectively. For instance, the advertising generally throughout the cities on tour and newspapers precluding the tour all said, "An Evening with Journey." Generally, all write ups said a 3.5 hour show and a free cd will be given to fans on this tour. Neal had said it on many radio interviews. Now I know Neal cannot be in charge of everything, but Journey PR and Mgt. can and should be.
My opinion is Journey management should in fact make it clear to the residents and fans of Sioux Empire what happened. I know Journey has a very good reputation Live, and with interaction amongst fans, so I really can't see them saying, "Oh we have an option? After 90 mins, let's get the H*ll outta here!" That isn't their style, and I have never seen Journey depart via police escort. Which leads me to think there was a whole lot more going on than perhaps Radio Goddess might know. She may, or should know the fairs' alcohol policy. If a fair is selling beer(that's good), but if you are selling beer in bottles, or cans, that is completely foolish...I know South Dakota is the wild wild west, but come on? A full beer can, thrown by a hammered fan/p.oed fan, has a very accurate projectile. A cup of beer isn't going anywhere.. Radio Goddess, if your policy isn't can or bottle, I apologize.

So what I am saying is, Journey just might be at fault here. I can hear your collective fists clenching, and air letting out of your mouths, but no band is perfect. You all have to admit, that communication has been spotty at best this tour, and IMO, needs a better PR effort. Last time I checked Radio Goddess, S.D. was part of the United States, and I have read some comments about your natives stating Journey thought less of South Dakotans because of where you live. I know this to be untrue. That argument is weak. However, if I were Journey management, I would take out an newpaper ad, explaining the miscommunication to SE citizens..It would go along way in the court of fan opinion. It would echo Journey's class.

Journey fans, I respect your passion, and your love of the band, but to "blindly" defend the band when not being there is juvenile at best. All I am trying to say is Journey does make mistakes, and it is ok to acknowledge them when they do. it does not take away the love and admiration you have for the band. I am sure I will be prosecuted and reprimanded too Radio Goddess; this is a very tight group of people her, but they really are a good caring bunch..Very generous people who really go out of their way to help one another, but I do think many defended first, and found facts last...The police escort really has me double-thinking this whole thing..They had 35 hours to get to Detroit, so expedition for the trip east doesn't make sense. As for the Rush comment, maybe Neal is just referencing that as a way to describe what other bands played that type of music, and as a way of describing the music scene at the time. If he is doing it to put down Rush, then that too is wrong. Rush are a very sound, proud band, and don't deserve that...Perhaps we can get Schon to comment on that?

Sorry for the rambling. Radio Goddess, can you email at derbydeano@yahoo.com? There is something off board I would like to talk to you about.

Sorry for the ramble folks. I am as big a Journey fan as anyone, and hope you all don't hate me now too.

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[Argus]

LOL....I missed something....

I don't see the thread she closed. She must have deleted it too. Oh, well.

Just out of curiousity, I checked how many times I have posted there in the past month....only four times, including the one where JSS went bonkers and the thread was closed/deleted.

BT is very meaningless, unless you want to praise Journey in the way Perry fans praise Perry. If you are Journey's version of OhSherry or HOTS, then that forum is for you. If there is any type of moderation within you, and you can see good and bad, then stay away from BT...Or, you can post there and censure your 'bad' side, or be banned.

And, with CJ running the show there, I think it is going to get worse, not better. ..just my opinion.

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/008944.html

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/008959.html

I don't think she's running the show either. But you don't really care about Journey anymore anyway Monker, so it doesn't matter about BT at all to you.

[Rockindeano]

I don't blame cj at all. She has been extremely kind to me in emails, and about missed cd giveaways. I just think the problems should be addressed, rather than look away, that's all.

Some over there(posters), wanted to move on, and all I wanted was a good, yet "nice" debate. You cannot even hint at Journey making mistakes..O well, I think cj is just doing her job.

No biggie.

[Monker]

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/008944.html

http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/008959.html

I don't think she's running the show either.

Well, that's probably a good thing....cuz I don't think she could handle it.

But you don't really care about Journey anymore anyway Monker, so it doesn't matter about BT at all to you.

That's true...that's why I missed the above, only make four posts a month on BT, and hardly ever talk about Journey's future in this forum. Journey as a whole is pretty screwed up right now and need to get it together, IMO, but I reallly think it's getting late in the game to fix it.

As for this latest thing...I skimmed the threads and it seems people are making a bigger deal out of this then they need to...especialy that Godess person.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Journey as a whole is pretty screwed up right now.

Hyperbole much?
They're a touring band.
Each year they go around and tour.
What more do you exactly want Monker?

[Rockindeano]

Monker, can I ask you a question?

You are a smart dude..Why don't you offer up some kind of plan..at least I tried, and I'm half as knowledgeable as you or NC....of course LAWoman tore it down really quick

I would love to see your plan for Journey.. Forget about Styx and those other bands..Journey are so much better, and should be treated by management as such.

Instead of doing the easy thing, criticizing, write something..I would love to hear it.

Rock

[Monker]

Monker, can I ask you a question?

You are a smart dude..Why don't you offer up some kind of plan..at least I tried, and I'm half as knowledgeable as you or NC....of course LAWoman tore it down really quick

I would love to see your plan for Journey.. Forget about Styx and those other bands..Journey are so much better, and should be treated by management as such.

Instead of doing the easy thing, criticizing, write something..I would love to hear it.

Rock

I've done this before. It really seems a bit futile.

The first thing I would say is to scrap the very thought of rerecording or remastering Generations for the US. Why should somebody like me even think about buying the CD *NOW* when the talk is to do some rerecording and even some new songs for a US release?

Since it seems the band (or at least Neal) has given up on keeping songs from P2P services, I say stick them on the website for download for a $.50 fee each.

I would say this year is gone and over...whatever plans have been made have to be followed thru on...So, really, there is nothing that can change until next summer, if they tour (Neal did say he's ready for a break).

So, again, when they schedule the next tour, I think they should take the first date and publicly make it a big deal. Make it VERY public that they are going to video the show and release it on DVD. Make it very public that they are going to perform never before recorded songs...the songs that were to be on the US Generations. I think they should wrap the concert around the idea of the DVD...Completely fill the DVD but do not perform so many songs that some have to be cut (NOT a 3hr show...two hrs at most). I think they should scrap most, if not all, of the pre-Perry songs. I think they should scrap the Hendrix and Santana stuff. At least 1/3 of the songs should be from the Augeri era...including the new songs.

Then, they tour. At the end of the tour, release the DVD. Hit the studio and record a new CD that includes those songs and seven other new ones. Release that CD and tour behind it the following summer/fall/winter.

I think they should stop emphasizing festivals and fairs...they have done that often enough. I think they should look at outdoor amphi-theaters in the summer and indoor theaters in the fall/winter. Sure, they are smaller, but they could schedule multiple nights.

Do I think anything even REMOTELY close to this will happen? Nope.

[Rockindeano]

Thanks for the replt Monker.. I actually was pretty close to your thinking in my dream Manager thread...

DVD is the key word here..No one is going to see how good they are, and that are still around if they don't know about them.. Hello? The Arrival 2001 DVD is awesome, but the people who bought that are already the hardcore fans..Yes, there are 500,000 hardcore JRNY fans.

Thanks again Monker

[The_Noble_Cause]

I've done this before. It really seems a bit futile.

The first thing I would say is to scrap the very thought of rerecording or remastering Generations for the US. Why should somebody like me even think about buying the CD *NOW* when the talk is to do some rerecording and even some new songs for a US release?

Since it seems the band (or at least Neal) has given up on keeping songs from P2P services, I say stick them on the website for download for a $.50 fee each.

I would say this year is gone and over...whatever plans have been made have to be followed thru on...So, really, there is nothing that can change until next summer, if they tour (Neal did say he's ready for a break).

So, again, when they schedule the next tour, I think they should take the first date and publicly make it a big deal. Make it VERY public that they are going to video the show and release it on DVD. Make it very public that they are going to perform never before recorded songs...the songs that were to be on the US Generations. I think they should wrap the concert around the idea of the DVD...Completely fill the DVD but do not perform so many songs that some have to be cut (NOT a 3hr show...two hrs at most). I think they should scrap most, if not all, of the pre-Perry songs. I think they should scrap the Hendrix and Santana stuff. At least 1/3 of the songs should be from the Augeri era...including the new songs.

Then, they tour. At the end of the tour, release the DVD. Hit the studio and record a new CD that includes those songs and seven other new ones. Release that CD and tour behind it the following summer/fall/winter.

I think they should stop emphasizing festivals and fairs...they have done that often enough. I think they should look at outdoor amphi-theaters in the summer and indoor theaters in the fall/winter. Sure, they are smaller, but they could schedule multiple nights.

Do I think anything even REMOTELY close to this will happen? Nope.

I'm sorry, but just how does any of the above rectify Journey's current situation?
So the new lineup releases a press release saying they will be filming a new dvd featuring a majority of obscure Augeri-era songs.
Hooooray! -
All 500 members of BackTalk simultaneously erupt into applause and the rest of the world keeps going about its business same as before.
Who cares.