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[ohsherrie]

'When Stephen was reunited with his sometime girlfriend LC on this summer's season premiere of the MTV reality series "Laguna Beach: The Real Orange County," his choice of soundtrack music was inspired: "Don't Stop Believin' " by the 80's power ballad specialists Journey, a firm song about uncertain love. "Generally, in reality TV, you like to control what music is being played," said the show's music supervisor, Jon Ernst, "but that was Stephen's own CD. It wasn't staged at all - he's a Journey fan."

Apparently he's a tastemaker, too. The day after the premiere, "Don't Stop Believin' " made its debut on the iTunes sales chart in the top 5, and it hovered in the top 10 for two weeks. Retail sales of the band's two greatest-hits collections jumped 40 percent in the week following the show's debut, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

"A whole other generation is coming up to me now - anywhere from 8 to 22 years old - wanting me to sign autographs," said Steve Perry, Journey's former lead singer. "They think Journey was awesome."

It's been a busy summer for the song, which has also appeared as karaoke music on an episode of "Family Guy"; as the soundtrack to "Star Wars: A Musical Tribute," a widely circulated Web video that cheekily revisits the love affair between Han Solo and Princess Leia (www.murdoch-watch.com/star_wars/); and as the hook for Capone & Noreaga's "City Boys" on the Heatmakerz' "Crack Mixtape Vol. 1." "I'm so glad the song is still speaking the way it originally was," Mr. Perry said of the recent attention. "So many of our graduating class, as I call them, you don't hear from anymore."

Up next for Journey: a new album, "Generations," due in October; a live DVD from 1981 produced by Mr. Perry, including a rendition of "Don't Stop Believin'," in November (he is estranged from the rest of the band, who continue to tour under the name Journey); and, perhaps, a return trip to Southern California. "The funniest thing," said Mr. Perry, "is that we just got a call from 'The O.C.' saying they were interested in using a Journey song next season." "

[perryfaithful]

"They think Journey was awesome."

[heardonthestreet]

"who continue to tour under the name, Journey.", as in, why bother?

[The_Noble_Cause]

"They think Journey was awesome."

More of the same spiteful divisivness from Steve Perry.
What a sad, frail old man.

[amaron]

"The funniest thing," said Mr. Perry, "is that we just got a call from 'The O.C.' saying they were interested in using a Journey song next season." "

Everyone said that the reason Journey couldn't release new DVD's is because of SP, and after reading this line, I don't think it's bullshit anymore.

Hey Steve, good luck with the Pack CD. Break a hip! erm.. leg.

[KarlRove]

[ohsherrie]

"They think Journey was awesome."

More of the same spiteful divisivness from Steve Perry.
What a sad, frail old man.

Nothing that Steve said in this article was in any way negative unless you choose to see it that way. Why do you choose to do that?

ohsherrie wrote:
"The funniest thing," said Mr. Perry, "is that we just got a call from 'The O.C.' saying they were interested in using a Journey song next season." "

Everyone said that the reason Journey couldn't release new DVD's is because of SP, and after reading this line, I don't think it's bullshit anymore.

Hey Steve, good luck with the Pack CD. Break a hip! erm.. leg.

What could that quote possibly have to do with the release of that CD? Why would you say something so hateful?

Only people who are bitter and spiteful would act like that.

(but of course it's only Perry fans who act like that)

[amaron]

(but of course it's only Perry fans who act like that)

You see, I am a Steve Perry fan. I have ST, FTLOSM, and GH+5 and I still listen to them whenever I have the chance.

But yes, I am bitter. I consider Journey from 86-97 a lost opportunity. An opportunity for Journey to keep creating great music. 11 years without anything but a record without two main cogs of the band (ROR) and a record that, if not for Sony playing the reunion angle, may not have sold any more than Arrival's 300k.

[Andrew]

"who continue to tour under the name, Journey.", as in, why bother?

Who continues to post the same old BS....why bother?

[OpeningAct]

Steve Perry is the BIGGEST asshole of all time...

Oh...hi Deeno...

[perryfaithful]

Steve Perry is the BIGGEST asshole of all time...

Oh...hi Deeno...

Too late my man!!

[jrnyjetster]

Have you LISTENED to anything from GENERATIONS yet? Perhaps you should.... OH...wait a minute...I forgot..you already have it your head that it's a terrible record because Steve Perry ain't on it so...WHY BOTHER, right??

[ohsherrie]

There should have been something positive in that article for anyone who wanted to find it. Instead Steve is immediatly accused of having some sort of ulterior agenda in it. The reporter even mentioned the new CD and the band that's currently touring. I would have thought you would have liked that.

Of course the fans of Perry's Journey are going to view it from a different perspective than the fans of the current band. We like the old music that's getting the attention from the media better than what they're doing now, but none of us got blatantly hostile about it. Neither PF, HOTS, nor I said anything as belligerent or antagonistic as the Schon fans did.

I guess what it really comes down to here is that you have to like the current band or else. And that is different from BT how? (Andrew, I don't mean from a moderating standpoint) Hell, I even saw where Monker got attacked for posting something that someone took as being negative about the new CD. You've become more protective and defensive of your boys than most of us are about Steve.

Could it be that you think some of the band members may be checking out this board to gauge the response to the interviews? Are you afraid we might offend them? That article certainly shouldn't offend them, they got mentioned. Jon and Neal have both said(Jon here, Neal in another recent interview)that they don't care what the fans say, so why worry about it? Isn't that sort of what some of you used to say to some of us? It went something like, "Perry doesn't care about you so why do you care about him?"

Get a grip people.

[jrnyman28]

Neither PF, HOTS, nor I said anything as belligerent or antagonistic as the Schon fans did.

Actually, HOTS' comment was extremely antagonistic.
Besides the fact that it was complete fiction on her part. IN NO WAY can I see how Perry's comment could be construed as to mean "why bother". She made it up to get a rise out of the board...

Notice I stayed out of this thread, I knew there was no where for it to go. And I had already responded to the same thread at BT. BUT, my one closing comment in that thread was "Maybe they can get a NEW song from Journey onto one of the TV shows"!! Getting a new song on a show like the OC would really get it to the young crowd.

[ohsherrie]

:? Have you LISTENED to anything from GENERATIONS yet? Perhaps you should.... OH...wait a minute...I forgot..you already have it your head that it's a terrible record because Steve Perry ain't on it so...WHY BOTHER, right??

No, I haven't, and you're right, I probably won't. I don't make a point of listening to every new CD by every band. In fact I seldom do. I'm just not interested. Why should I listen to this one? Just having the name Journey doesn't make them special to me. I'm not a Neal Schon fan, I'm a Perry/Journey fan.



Dave, I didn't take HOTS' remark as meaning that Steve was implying "why bother". It was the reporter not Steve who mentioned the current band. Not to speak for her, but I thought she was saying that was her personal take on what the reporter said. It's really only antagonistic if people are offended by her opinion. She didn't say she wished Jon had developed peritonitis or anything.

[NealIsGod]

ohsherrie, your opinions don't have any credibility if you refuse to even listen to a CD without Perry on it. And by the way, the heart of Journey is Schon, not Perry, so if oyu are not a fan of Schon, you are not a fan opf Journey. And that's not my opinion, it is fact. Neal is the only one who was there in the beginning, is there now, and will be there in the end. I already know you will come back with "Journey is not Journey without Perry". That is your opinion. All the fans attending Journey shows throughout the country disagree with that.

[The_Noble_Cause]

There should have been something positive in that article for anyone who wanted to find it. Instead Steve is immediatly accused of having some sort of ulterior agenda in it.

I believe Steve deliberately chose the wording "Journey WAS awesome."
That, to me, shows that he is insinuating that the Journey of today is anything less than awesome. As a fan of Journey (both old and new) I don't agree with that, and so I took issue with it.
Got a problem with that?

The reporter even mentioned the new CD and the band that's currently touring. I would have thought you would have liked that.

Why would we? This article was already posted here on the forums weeks ago.
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... ht=#108045

Contribute something new.

Of course the fans of Perry's Journey are going to view it from a different perspective than the fans of the current band. We like the old music that's getting the attention from the media better than what they're doing now, but none of us got blatantly hostile about it. Neither PF, HOTS, nor I said anything as belligerent or antagonistic as the Schon fans did.

Yes, you guys are such pacifists.
It's only a matter of coincidence that all hell breaks loose each time you show up here and start posting.

I guess what it really comes down to here is that you have to like the current band or else.

I frankly don't give two shits what you like.
I think most posters here feel the same way.

Hell, I even saw where Monker got attacked for posting something that someone took as being negative about the new CD. You've become more protective and defensive of your boys than most of us are about Steve.

I found Monker to be frivolously carping on the new album so I called him on it. Just like I'll call you (or anybody) when you make a baseless critique.
Here's a thought....
Jeremy gave the new album a fairly scathing review, nobody attacked him. Nobody acted defensive or overly protective. Why do you think that is?
It's because he bolstered his comments with corroboration and intelligent airtight argument.
Not brain-dead stupid shit like "Too much guitar!".

Could it be that you think some of the band members may be checking out this board to gauge the response to the interviews? Are you afraid we might offend them? That article certainly shouldn't offend them, they got mentioned. Jon and Neal have both said(Jon here, Neal in another recent interview)that they don't care what the fans say, so why worry about it? Isn't that sort of what some of you used to say to some of us? It went something like, "Perry doesn't care about you so why do you care about him?"

Ok. At this point, I officially don't know what the hell you're even squawking about.

[jrnyman28]

Dave, I didn't take HOTS' remark as meaning that Steve was implying "why bother". It was the reporter not Steve who mentioned the current band. Not to speak for her, but I thought she was saying that was her personal take on what the reporter said. It's really only antagonistic if people are offended by her opinion. She didn't say she wished Jon had developed peritonitis or anything.

You can take it however you want to but (whether it was her take on Perry, her take on the writer, or her own opinion) it is antagonistic.

Honestly, posting any topic or interview on this board with the intention of saying Journey should not have continued or they suck without Perry IS antagonistic. Because the simple fact is that Journey IS carrying on. You can say you prefer Perry-era Journey all day long. But when you try to discredit what Journey is doing, THAT is antagonistic. When you post interviews that agree with your feeling that Journey should not have continued, THAT is antagonistic.

I don't see any fans of Augeri-era Journey starting any threads whos sole purpose is to tear down Perry or disrespect his decision to let Journey go.

I feel the need to repeat that I have NO issues with ANYONE preferring Perry-era Journey. I also have no issues with "you" post antagonistic threads and posts. Just don't pretend "you" are not...

[ohsherrie]

ohsherrie, your opinions don't have any credibility if you refuse to even listen to a CD without Perry on it. And by the way, the heart of Journey is Schon, not Perry, so if oyu are not a fan of Schon, you are not a fan opf Journey. And that's not my opinion, it is fact. Neal is the only one who was there in the beginning, is there now, and will be there in the end. I already know you will come back with "Journey is not Journey without Perry". That is your opinion. All the fans attending Journey shows throughout the country disagree with that.

NIG, what made Journey stand out from the pack for me in the '80s was Steve Perry's voice. The song writing magic with Steve in the mix made the songs themselves absolutely incredible when delivered by his vocal brilliance. I didn't even know the names of any of the others for years. It didn't matter then, and it doesn't matter now to most of the people who became fans of Journey then that the band was built around Neal Schon. As Neal admitted in his interview here, he was just one of the band and he's still striving for name recognition. He may be the heart of the band for you, but that's just your opinion and obviously in the minority. As for my credibility, I'm not trying to be a credible critic of the new band. I just don't care about them. I listened to some of Arrival and there was no magic there for me. I have no reason to think the new one will be any more impressive.

[NealIsGod]

NIG, what made Journey stand out from the pack for me in the '80s was Steve Perry's voice. The song writing magic with Steve in the mix made the songs themselves absolutely incredible when delivered by his vocal brilliance. I didn't even know the names of any of the others for years. It didn't matter then, and it doesn't matter now to most of the people who became fans of Journey then that the band was built around Neal Schon. As Neal admitted in his interview here, he was just one of the band and he's still striving for name recognition. He may be the heart of the band for you, but that's just your opinion and obviously in the minority. As for my credibility, I'm not trying to be a credible critic of the new band. I just don't care about them. I listened to some of Arrival and there was no magic there for me. I have no reason to think the new one will be any more impressive.

No offense, but some fans pay more attention to the band than just admiring the singer. Of course, Perry was special. No one disputes that. Are the Stones just Mick Jagger and his back up band? It U2 just Bono and a bar mitzvah band? Of course not. If you are a Journey fan, you admire and respect all members, not just the lead singer.

[jrnyman28]

I listened to some of Arrival and there was no magic there for me. I have no reason to think the new one will be any more impressive.

Can you HONESTLY say you listened with an open mind? Or is it possible that you listened with prejudice because Perry was not there? And if you only listened to "some" of "Arrival", how do you know that you did not 'miss' the magic? I already know you do not hear 'the magic' on ALL of "Frontiers". Maybe you only heard the songs that don't hold 'the magic' for you. Either way, "Generations" is very different from "Arrival", so it could be magical when "Arrival" was not.... No matter, your heart is closed on this one, no big deal.

[NealIsGod]

I think it's time to face facts. Perry-onlies are not going to like the new Journey b/c it rocks. They are more into the lite stuff, and that is fine.

[ohsherrie]

I listened to some of Arrival and there was no magic there for me. I have no reason to think the new one will be any more impressive.

Can you HONESTLY say you listened with an open mind? Or is it possible that you listened with prejudice because Perry was not there? And if you only listened to "some" of "Arrival", how do you know that you did not 'miss' the magic? I already know you do not hear 'the magic' on ALL of "Frontiers". Maybe you only heard the songs that don't hold 'the magic' for you. Either way, "Generations" is very different from "Arrival", so it could be magical when "Arrival" was not.... No matter, your heart is closed on this one, no big deal.

What actually happened was that I saw the free per view show that the 2001 DVD was made from, and then heard some more of Arrival on a tape that one of my friends sent me. I just wasn't at all impressed. I don't really suppose I was intirely open minded about it, but I don't remember feeling anything about it at the time except curiosity. It was after I heard it that I thought they had made a HUGE mistake. I didn't even know the whole story at the time. In truth, none of us knows that even now, but I know a lot more than I did then. Generations may not be a "bad" album, Arrival wasn't "bad", but if they're going to call themselves Journey they have a standard to measure up to that, for me, they just aren't capable of reaching. You're right, it isn't as big a deal as some people try to make it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It was after I heard it that I thought they had made a HUGE mistake. I didn't even know the whole story at the time.

The HUGE mistake was waiting nearly over ten years to finally serve Perry his walking papers.

[ohsherrie]

I think it's time to face facts. Perry-onlies are not going to like the new Journey b/c it rocks. They are more into the lite stuff, and that is fine.

I don't know what you call lite stuff but I've said before that I don't care for elaborate screaming, squalling, frenetic guitars solos(or overpowering, relentless keyboards either, but I've never heard Jon do that). If that had dominated the Journey sound I would never have become a fan. I'm into soaring vocals with a good, strong band backing them up.

[NealIsGod]

I don't know what you call lite stuff but I've said before that I don't care for elaborate screaming, squalling, frenetic guitars solos(or overpowering, relentless keyboards either, but I've never heard Jon do that). If that had dominated the Journey sound I would never have become a fan. I'm into soaring vocals with a good, strong band backing them up.

Yeah, lite stuff.

[ohsherrie]

It was after I heard it that I thought they had made a HUGE mistake. I didn't even know the whole story at the time.

The HUGE mistake was waiting nearly over ten years to finally serve Perry his walking papers.

If you really feel that way and can acknowledge, as you surely must, that it was Steve's voice that made the name Journey famous, then why is it so important to you that they use that name now? Why must they use that name if it isn't even that sound that you want? You may answer as a Schon fan that it was his band to begin with, but the sound that became synonymous with the name Journey isn't the sound he wanted then or that you appear to want now, so why not rename it and go with another sound? Granted, they need the name to draw a crowd, but then most of you that post here complain because they are so limited in what they can play to please the crowd. They wouldn't have that problem if they didn't have the name. It makes not one jot of logical sense to me.

[ohsherrie]

I don't know what you call lite stuff but I've said before that I don't care for elaborate screaming, squalling, frenetic guitars solos(or overpowering, relentless keyboards either, but I've never heard Jon do that). If that had dominated the Journey sound I would never have become a fan. I'm into soaring vocals with a good, strong band backing them up.

Yeah, lite stuff.

Fair enough, I guess I like what you call "lite stuff".

[heardonthestreet]

And I don't care for anything too guitar driven or with multiple vocals, unless the vocalists are talented. Why bother!

[jrnyjetster]

And I don't care for anything too guitar driven or with multiple vocals, unless the vocalists are talented. Why bother!

And WHO do YOU consider to be a "talented" vocalist? PRESENT TENSE, please....