Is anyone at tonights show?

[Rockindeano]

The reviews in the "On the Road Section" on quack talk are now saying Augeri was "under the weather" "illness" and that everyone did a sound check EXCEPT him. WTF? Does not a singer need to dial in his vocals? Oh nevermind, Steve doesn't need help....he already has it.

When they started the soundcheck, the lone guy was asked to leave.

Journey is scared shitless.

[AR]

60 - 40 live vs. tape tonight IMO

Again just my opinion.

[AR]

now saying Augeri was "under the weather"

i was HAPPY to hear some poor notes!

You know why. LOL

[Rockindeano]

60 - 40 live vs. tape tonight IMO

Again just my opinion.

Did Augeri sound good? I say this seriously. If he sounded good, it wasn't him. He no longer has the capabilities to sound good. I am serious, not being funny.

[AR]

Did Augeri sound good? I say this seriously. If he sounded good, it wasn't him

Sounded "ok" when it went live. Not croaking or anything. All high notes he turned to Deen. I have no problem with that BTW.

I can't prove anything. It is entirely possible that they let Steve go "live" enough to make the boots sound different this time.

However, the voice inflections and such tell me that Steve A. was more live tonight that he has been since before the Generations tour.

Just my call.

[KittyKat]

Arivalrules, thanks I wasn't happy to see that they still have No Matter What in the setlist and have had concerns about what DL's performance would be like this tour after hearing Joe on the Rock Honors show kill Rock of Ages. I was asking you since you said you were there and I read a few mixed reviews that sounded different. I personally don't like Roger Waters for example but I wouldn't say he stunk unless his performance was crappy. I'm not a big fan of DL's cover album and they did Rock On and No Matter What last tour and I absolutely hate the song Love Bites.

[AR]

Arivalrules, thanks I wasn't happy to see that they still have No Matter What in the setlist and have had concerns about what DL's performance would be like this tour after hearing Joe on the Rock Honors show kill Rock of Ages. I was asking you since you said you were there and I read a few mixed reviews that sounded different. I personally don't like Roger Waters for example but I wouldn't say he stunk unless his performance was crappy. I'm not a big fan of DL's cover album and they did Rock On and No Matter What last tour and I absolutely hate the song Love Bites.

No problem, and of course it's just my opinion. I LOVED Leppard on the "X" tour in Baltimore with the "High and Dry" medley.

I was super dissapointed that they were not going to play "Foolin' and "Brining on the Heartbreak" and they didn't.......

[KittyKat]

Arivalrules, thanks I wasn't happy to see that they still have No Matter What in the setlist and have had concerns about what DL's performance would be like this tour after hearing Joe on the Rock Honors show kill Rock of Ages. I was asking you since you said you were there and I read a few mixed reviews that sounded different. I personally don't like Roger Waters for example but I wouldn't say he stunk unless his performance was crappy. I'm not a big fan of DL's cover album and they did Rock On and No Matter What last tour and I absolutely hate the song Love Bites.

No problem, and of course it's just my opinion. I LOVED Leppard on the "X" tour in Baltimore with the "High and Dry" medley.

I was super dissapointed that they were not going to play "Foolin' and "Brining on the Heartbreak" and they didn't.......

I'm from Baltimore, that's funny Another coincidence, I was mad when I heard they were dropping Foolin from the set and I also forgot to mention in the other post that I hate Hellraiser so imo that's a bad lead off. Was wondering if Joe was gonna take a que from Journey and use tapes since he's sounded rough as of late

[Rockindeano]

Did Augeri sound good? I say this seriously. If he sounded good, it wasn't him

Sounded "ok" when it went live. Not croaking or anything. All high notes he turned to Deen. I have no problem with that BTW.

I can't prove anything. It is entirely possible that they let Steve go "live" enough to make the boots sound different this time.

However, the voice inflections and such tell me that Steve A. was more live tonight that he has been since before the Generations tour.

Just my call.

Fair enough. We will see when the boots come out. No doubt they prolly thought to change it up.....because of this being talked about. Good, that's all I ever wanted. But some here will still say there was never ever any taping going on.

[bionic]

Journey's set should be about done now so I was hoping someone would post to let us know how it's going. Gonna take at least 30 mins. to set up DL's stage. I saw some people here post that they would be at this show tonight, the suspense is killing me.

Just read a review on backtalk,seems this guy got in early to watch a sound check everyone was there except Augeri?
Seems the show was good Generations was put back in and Steve was not well and had some trouble vocally,though by all accounts they got through.
I think they are aware of thr rumour and are trying to get through with less tapes and more of the other guys singing.
Prediction...... end of this tour they may make a big decision!

[Rockindeano]

here: From BT no less-

"which soon led to Journey taking the preshow stage at about 4:00pm. Aside from some cool individual warm-ups by each member and a drums-bass-backing vocals-only semi-rendition of "After The Fall," Schon, Cain, Valory, and Castronovo (no Augeri) played "Faith In The Heartland" with Cain on vocals and guitar before this audience of one was asked to leave (by none other than Rocco from The Roadies). It seems Journey prefers no one to be in the seating area of the arena while they do their sound check,"

Cain singing lead on FITH? Are you kidding me? No, Jon can't sing for shit, but he does sound decent on Every generation.

Gee, let me guess, Augeri is singing all the songs, right? Give me honesty or give me Toto for cryin out loud.

[KittyKat]

Deeno and Bionic, where are you seeing this? I know you said BT but I have re-checked the Camden thread several times for the part about the sound check and can't find the posts you guys are referring to. I did see in one of them that someone said Steve seemed tired and about Dean singing 4 songs but I can't find the rest of the stuff you guys are talking about.

[jrnysc]

Just want to put my .02 in here. First, of the two sound checks I have seen over the last few years (from a distance), Augeri has been at none of them. That is not uncommon. From my understanding he does his own vocal excercises in a steamed room by himself for an hour or two right before the show. I have heard Jon, Neal, Deen and even once or twice Ross sing during the sound checks. No big deal. Noone usually there. As far as Deen singing the high notes, and singing 3 or four songs during the show is also not uncommon. They have been doing that for a while now. He actually sounds more like Perry to me than Steve sometimes. He can also hit the highest notes Journey has IMO. From everything I have read so far, Journey blew DL off the stage last night, and I am happy to hear they were able to get through. I think it's time to face the facts that they have some vocal "help", but from what I have been reading most all live bands nowadays do. Doesn't seem to be rare by any means. If that is all it is, I am fine with that. They remain the best live band I have ever witnessed. I would love to know what exactly is going on with Steve's throat and/or vocal chords, and if it will ever get better.

[jrnysc]

Deeno and Bionic, where are you seeing this? I know you said BT but I have re-checked the Camden thread several times for the part about the sound check and can't find the posts you guys are referring to. I did see in one of them that someone said Steve seemed tired and about Dean singing 4 songs but I can't find the rest of the stuff you guys are talking about.

It is on the On The Road section of the Journey main website where you can post show reviews.

[KittyKat]

Deeno and Bionic, where are you seeing this? I know you said BT but I have re-checked the Camden thread several times for the part about the sound check and can't find the posts you guys are referring to. I did see in one of them that someone said Steve seemed tired and about Dean singing 4 songs but I can't find the rest of the stuff you guys are talking about.

It is on the On The Road section of the Journey main website where you can post show reviews.

I tried that but only the tour listing comes up, what am I doing wrong? I have seen the thread that is on the BT message board with reviews but that thread doesn't have the stuff about the sound check and other tid bits Bionic and Deeno mentioned.

[jrnysc]

Deeno and Bionic, where are you seeing this? I know you said BT but I have re-checked the Camden thread several times for the part about the sound check and can't find the posts you guys are referring to. I did see in one of them that someone said Steve seemed tired and about Dean singing 4 songs but I can't find the rest of the stuff you guys are talking about.

It is on the On The Road section of the Journey main website where you can post show reviews.

I tried that but only the tour listing comes up, what am I doing wrong? I have seen the thread that is on the BT message board with reviews but that thread doesn't have the stuff about the sound check and other tid bits Bionic and Deeno mentioned.

Go to the tour listing, and click on reviews by last nights show. It will bring em up for ya.

[Jeremey]

Just want to put my .02 in here. First, of the two sound checks I have seen over the last few years (from a distance), Augeri has been at none of them. That is not uncommon. From my understanding he does his own vocal excercises in a steamed room by himself for an hour or two right before the show. I have heard Jon, Neal, Deen and even once or twice Ross sing during the sound checks. No big deal. Noone usually there. As far as Deen singing the high notes, and singing 3 or four songs during the show is also not uncommon. They have been doing that for a while now. He actually sounds more like Perry to me than Steve sometimes. He can also hit the highest notes Journey has IMO. From everything I have read so far, Journey blew DL off the stage last night, and I am happy to hear they were able to get through. I think it's time to face the facts that they have some vocal "help", but from what I have been reading most all live bands nowadays do. Doesn't seem to be rare by any means. If that is all it is, I am fine with that. They remain the best live band I have ever witnessed. I would love to know what exactly is going on with Steve's throat and/or vocal chords, and if it will ever get better.

We went to the West VA State Fair on the Under the Radar tour, and we hung around the stands during sound check until we were kicked out. They played Line of Fire with no vocals, Steve was in the trailer for the soundcheck. When the gates opened, we actually did hear Steve backstage warming up before the show, he kept singing "Here we STAND.....Here We STAND.....SOMEDAY LOVE WILL FIND YOU...", I guess just warming up. I think "Higher Place" was the opening song in that set.

During the 2002 set, I was disappointed with Steve's vocals. He's clearly a great showman, and really enjoyed what he was doing (which is why I feel so bad for him now - It would literally be hell having to stand up there and struggle like that in front of thousands of people), but he ducked all kinds of notes, and changed the melodies to most of the songs to suit his range. Back then, the real reason I enjoyed the show so much was the amazing musicianship of the band, and the improvisation that went on. There was just amazing versions of Chain Reaction and others that had extended endings and went in different directions. The acoustic set with Liberty and Trial By Fire was amazing, and Neal's solo during that set was mind blowing. When we saw them last year at House of Blues, all of that spontenaiety was gone...

[jrnysc]

Just want to put my .02 in here. First, of the two sound checks I have seen over the last few years (from a distance), Augeri has been at none of them. That is not uncommon. From my understanding he does his own vocal excercises in a steamed room by himself for an hour or two right before the show. I have heard Jon, Neal, Deen and even once or twice Ross sing during the sound checks. No big deal. Noone usually there. As far as Deen singing the high notes, and singing 3 or four songs during the show is also not uncommon. They have been doing that for a while now. He actually sounds more like Perry to me than Steve sometimes. He can also hit the highest notes Journey has IMO. From everything I have read so far, Journey blew DL off the stage last night, and I am happy to hear they were able to get through. I think it's time to face the facts that they have some vocal "help", but from what I have been reading most all live bands nowadays do. Doesn't seem to be rare by any means. If that is all it is, I am fine with that. They remain the best live band I have ever witnessed. I would love to know what exactly is going on with Steve's throat and/or vocal chords, and if it will ever get better.

We went to the West VA State Fair on the Under the Radar tour, and we hung around the stands during sound check until we were kicked out. They played Line of Fire with no vocals, Steve was in the trailer for the soundcheck. When the gates opened, we actually did hear Steve backstage warming up before the show, he kept singing "Here we STAND.....Here We STAND.....SOMEDAY LOVE WILL FIND YOU...", I guess just warming up. I think "Higher Place" was the opening song in that set.

During the 2002 set, I was disappointed with Steve's vocals. He's clearly a great showman, and really enjoyed what he was doing (which is why I feel so bad for him now - It would literally be hell having to stand up there and struggle like that in front of thousands of people), but he ducked all kinds of notes, and changed the melodies to most of the songs to suit his range. Back then, the real reason I enjoyed the show so much was the amazing musicianship of the band, and the improvisation that went on. There was just amazing versions of Chain Reaction and others that had extended endings and went in different directions. The acoustic set with Liberty and Trial By Fire was amazing, and Neal's solo during that set was mind blowing. When we saw them last year at House of Blues, all of that spontenaiety was gone...

Jeremey, thanks for the reply. That acoustic set was indeed awesome. I hate this for Steve. He and his family are such gracious people. You seem very knowledgeable about all of this from reading your other post. What do you honestly think this will mean for the future of my favorite band?

[Jeremey]

There's no way to predict what may happen. I honestly thought last year was their last tour. I had no idea that they would put Augeri through another Main Event style tour. The guy is closing in on fifty. The songs were originally sung by someone in their early to mid thirties. I would have thought Steve could have sat back and rested and enjoyed himself this year, but I guess that's rock and roll for you.

In the meantime, Columbia isn't too far from Lancaster, come out to the Buford Sports Cafe tonight and catch our 3 hour tribute show! I will say that Buford Sports Cafe would be wise to invest in some smokeaters....Anyway, there's my plug!

[jrnysc]

There's no way to predict what may happen. I honestly thought last year was their last tour. I had no idea that they would put Augeri through another Main Event style tour. The guy is closing in on fifty. The songs were originally sung by someone in their early to mid thirties. I would have thought Steve could have sat back and rested and enjoyed himself this year, but I guess that's rock and roll for you.

In the meantime, Columbia isn't too far from Lancaster, come out to the Buford Sports Cafe tonight and catch our 3 hour tribute show! I will say that Buford Sports Cafe would be wise to invest in some smokeaters....Anyway, there's my plug!

Man, I have to work all weekend, or I would certainly come out and check out your show. Let me know if you ever come back this way. I would love to. As I have said about the other, you have shown me enough evidence to face the truth. It saddens me, however I still feel like they are some of the most talented musicians around and a GREAT live band. I thought Neal had said after last tour they may not tour this year except for a brief tour overseas. I wish Steve the best, and hope he can find a way to overcome this. He is certainly a trooper. It took some nads to take that job to begin with!!

[KittyKat]

Thanks Jrnysc. I needed to scroll over to see the review link, dumb blonde
As for Steve's age he's the same age as DL's singer. I know he doesn't sing in that high pitch range like the Journey guys but there has to be lots of them out there even older still singing pretty good. I bet Robert Plant can't do what he used to either.

[jrnysc]

Thanks Jrnysc. I needed to scroll over to see the review link, dumb blonde
As for Steve's age he's the same age as DL's singer. I know he doesn't sing in that high pitch range like the Journey guys but there has to be lots of them out there even older still singing pretty good. I bet Robert Plant can't do what he used to either.

Your very welcome KittyKat!! I just wish Steve the best. Hopefully he can get over all this.

[A Fire Inside]

I also caught a few sound checks last tour and Steve was never there.

[AR]

I also caught a few sound checks last tour and Steve was never there.

Soundcheck 8/25/01 photos with Augeri doing all vocals. 7 songs including "After the Fall". Can't say what they've done at soundchecks since, but this day Steve A said to us that they would actually do complete songs since we were there rather than do a traditional soundcheck where they may only go through parts of tunes.

http://community.webshots.com/myphotos? ... yoMeUiKHZC

And some photos from The Borgata on 9/27/03 thrown in for the heck of it

http://community.webshots.com/myphotos? ... ity=cjgAAc