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Postby SF-Dano » Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:47 am

I have read on this site that most people don't really like this album.

IMO, this record is better than the first BE album. I think the songs are a bit "deeper". Less "Mary Poppins" to use a quote from Steve Smith. Really like "So This is Eden", "Straight to Your Heart", "Rebel Say a Prayer" and "Savage Blue". Someone once wrote on hear that it sounded like "they hated each other during the making of this album" and that it came through in the music. I really don't get that feel, but if anything I think it made for a more mature sounding record.

Anyone else around here dig this album more than the first. Maybe, I'm the only one :?:
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Postby Matthew » Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:50 am

"Straight To Your Heart" is a GREAT song...best Bad English track by a mile, I reckon.
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Postby Ms_M » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:37 am

I don't know if I can say I dig it more than the first one, but I dig it at least AS MUCH AS the first one. I love that album! Rebel Say a Prayer is not one of my faves, but Savage Blue, Straight to Your Heart, Pray for Rain... Love them.
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Postby Abitaman » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:47 am

The first one is in my top 25 cds. Back lash isn't even close, although I do like Straight to the Heart, So this is Eden (a newer take on the Hotel California theme), Time Stood Still and Time Alone With You (or something like that, don't have the cd in front of me). Rest of the songs are okay, have a feeling of been there, done that.-ERIC
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Postby Ms_M » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:03 pm

I like your description of So This is Eden - it is definitely more rockin' but kinda creepy like Hotel California. I was just a kid when that one came it and it gave me the heebie jeebies!!!
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Postby X factor » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:05 pm

As much as I like BACKLASH, particulary STYH, I'm not sure if anything on that album resonates with me the way DON'T WALK AWAY or BEST OF WHAT I GOT does.
But I really dig both albums, and have always been a little sad BE didn't create more music.
I met John Waite at a meet and greet in Biloxi a few years back, and one of his people advised my friend NOT to ask him about BE as it was a touchy subject, apparently. Anyone know what went down? I never really heard...
BTW- this is my first post after a long while lurking...welcome me aboard, dammit!
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Postby Ms_M » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:40 pm

Hello X - that's what I was saying - I have faves on both albums. Don't Walk Away is one - Restless Ones gives me chills, Possession and Ghost in Your Heart - Awesome! See, it's hard to say I favor one over the other.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:34 pm

X factor wrote:As much as I like BACKLASH, particulary STYH, I'm not sure if anything on that album resonates with me the way DON'T WALK AWAY or BEST OF WHAT I GOT does.
But I really dig both albums, and have always been a little sad BE didn't create more music.
I met John Waite at a meet and greet in Biloxi a few years back, and one of his people advised my friend NOT to ask him about BE as it was a touchy subject, apparently. Anyone know what went down? I never really heard...
BTW- this is my first post after a long while lurking...welcome me aboard, dammit!


John and Jon had a big break down...
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Re: B.E. Backlash

Postby Eric » Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:17 pm

At first I didn't like the 2nd one as much, but now I agree...its waaaaay better
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Postby Abitaman » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:39 pm

X factor wrote:As much as I like BACKLASH, particulary STYH, I'm not sure if anything on that album resonates with me the way DON'T WALK AWAY or BEST OF WHAT I GOT does.
But I really dig both albums, and have always been a little sad BE didn't create more music.
I met John Waite at a meet and greet in Biloxi a few years back, and one of his people advised my friend NOT to ask him about BE as it was a touchy subject, apparently. Anyone know what went down? I never really heard...
BTW- this is my first post after a long while lurking...welcome me aboard, dammit!


was at his show at Casino Magic in Bay ST. Louis, or at a diffrent casino? I was at the one in the Bay. He played 3 BE songs in the set-ERIC
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Postby X factor » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:20 am

I saw the show at the Bay (I believe Phil Sousan was playing bass for him then? That was pretty cool) but the show I'm refering to was about a year and a half later at the Grand (actually the Gulfport Grand, I believe, not Biloxi as I originally stated.) He only played one BE during this show (WISYS of sourse...)
Abitaman, hum? Wouldn't have lived near Abita Springs would you? I used to live on the North Shore myself...
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:39 am

X factor wrote:I saw the show at the Bay (I believe Phil Soussan was playing bass for him then? That was pretty cool) but the show I'm referring to was about a year and a half later at the Grand (actually the Gulfport Grand, I believe, not Biloxi as I originally stated.) He only played one BE during this show (WISYS of source...)
Abitaman, hum? Wouldn't have lived near Abita Springs would you? I used to live on the North Shore myself...


I lived in Ocean Springs MS, up until Hurricane Katrina. Worked for Abita Springs water company for over 6 years. Had the route from Long Beach, MS to Louisiana state line. Hurricane wiped my route off the face of the earth. So that is how I got the name on here Abitaman. Hurricane move you up?-ERIC
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Postby X factor » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:45 am

That's too bad. You have my sympathies, man. We actually moved from Biloxi about 5 years ago, but we had alot of friends and family down there and in NO that were hit really hard. It devistated us, too, cause the Coast was are home for so long. We were thinking about El Maguey, a little Mexican place right on the beach, we used to go to and how sad it is that's it's not there anymore.
Have you kept up with anyone still in the area?
Most of the folks I've talked with paint a pretty bleak picture.
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:55 am

Still talk to a lot of guys from work and church. My route went from 10 days to 1 and a half, now up to 2 days, so they say. Hancock county is still nothing. Biloxi and Gulfport away from beach showing little signs of improvement,but the closer to the water, the less improvement. 3 Casino's have re opened, and 1 or 2 more by years end. Been doen twice in past 3 months. Planning another trip soon. But it was sicking last time. Drove down into Biloxi, kids sitting out on streets with homes walls missing, nothing for them do.=ERIC
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Postby X factor » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:09 am

Yeah, I've heard much the same type thing. That's really sad, and it sucks how the country seems to have forgotten about it at this point. Those folks will be digging out from under that for years...a good friend of ours who was working with FEMA down there said they plan to have a presence there for at least the next ten years. My wife and I are hoping to go down that way this fall., but I'm not really looking forward to seeing it up close, even after the clean up they've done.
Did the Beau Rivage re open? And did the Hard Rock EVER open? I couldn't believe of all the things that survived, that big ass glass HARD ROCK sign somehow withstood the full brunt of that storm...
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:39 am

X factor wrote:Yeah, I've heard much the same type thing. That's really sad, and it sucks how the country seems to have forgotten about it at this point. Those folks will be digging out from under that for years...a good friend of ours who was working with FEMA down there said they plan to have a presence there for at least the next ten years. My wife and I are hoping to go down that way this fall., but I'm not really looking forward to seeing it up close, even after the clean up they've done.
Did the Beau Rivage re open? And did the Hard Rock EVER open? I couldn't believe of all the things that survived, that big ass glass HARD ROCK sign somehow withstood the full brunt of that storm...


the Beau and Hard Rock is what save the Biloxi Hospital. If they had been there, it would be gone.
Beau is one of the ones to reopen this year from my understanding. Hard Rock next year. And yet the guitar survived.

PM me and give me your address, I'll mail you a cd of pictures, of casino washed up on the opposite side of the road, miles from where they were. The Bay bridge and Biloxi drawbridge washed out.-ERIC
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Postby whocares » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:46 am

Backlash was a fine Cd in my opinion that means very little. I like all the songs mentioned above and a few more. The first CD is pretty darn good though. Who else would brag about having had VH1's number one worst love song ever, than John Waite? Got to see the humor there. "Rockin' Horse" was what made me get license plates for my 68 Mustang that said "BDNGLS". That confused anyone that read it. Nothing was better than cruising the highway with the top down and "Rockin' Horse" playing loudly. Even in the cold weather.

I also remember reading that the guys didn't like each other much during the recording of the 2nd CD, but I don't think it made it a worse CD.
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Postby Ms_M » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:49 am

Maybe I was naive, but I didn't notice any animosities that came through recordings, but obviously things on the BE boat were not going well...
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