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Postby A Fire Inside » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:47 pm

Monker wrote:Better yet, why couldn't they take that year off to write and record an album...as they kept saying they were going to do, over and over and over again? It's NOT just Augeri's fault...it's the ENTIRE band's fault. And, you're right, if Azoff was pushing for more tours, it's his fault too.

THAT is what I wish more people would see. Has any of this changed? As far as I can tell - NO, it hasn't. So, treat the symptom and change the lead singer...but, the bigger problems in the band still exist.

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Postby Saint John » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:48 pm

Monker wrote:
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whocares wrote:brings what up, SJ?


I have NEVER heard Neal, Ross or Jon talk about Perry's hip surgery specifically. I haven't heard any of them comment on whether they thought the story is bullshit, he did have the surgery or if they simply don't know. It seems like there is some type of gag order regarding much of what happened around the TBF era. I suspect the "tapegate" incident will be very similar.


The hip surgery happened, or didn't happen, a couple years AFTER he was replaced in Journey...So, why would the band comment on it?


The hip surgery was in 1998, the SAME year he was legally removed from the Journey family.
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Postby LucyFurr » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:20 pm

Bravo Deano!! Very mature of both of you. Nice thread, really.
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Postby Citygirl » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:46 pm

Has ANYONE ever considered that Augeri WANTED to step down and saw this whole Tapegate scenario as an easy exit, not worrying about the repracussions to his reputaion?


I've wondered about that Carlitto. While I don't think anyone would really want to go out the way he did, it might be that he did want out anyway.

But, I still think there were plans to bring JSS in as far back as Soul Sirkus. The signs were there and as I've said before, the 50% Journey setlist in Newcastle made me think he might join them at some point. If this is right enough I'm not sure why they waited this long to do it but I think it's quite obvious that it was planned/spoken about long ago. Maybe SA was aware of it, maybe not... who would know?

In the future, Augeri will respond to any allegations the way he and the Journey lawyers agreed that he must


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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:55 pm

squirt1 wrote:Steve Smith said in an interview that Perry had the surgery.


Yeah, and Schon and Ross have indicated that there was some major obfuscation going on.
Neal and Herbie have gone on-record about this various times.

He also talked of the ice packs at the WYLAW video.


Maybe Perry did. I don't think Smith talked about this on-air.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:58 pm

Monker wrote:Better yet, why couldn't they take that year off to write and record an album...as they kept saying they were going to do, over and over and over again?


Because they stood nothing to gain from it.
After "Arrival" failed to re-launch them to Perry-era heights of fame and fortune, they became content to rest on their laurels.
Who can blame them?

I think they will try to give the 1st JSS album a big Arrival-type push and if that fails, expect more of the same creative apathy that marred the past 8 years.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:16 am

Damn TNC, that burger looks fucking good...especially when every inch of me feels like booze right now....
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Re: A Letter to Deano

Postby TRAGChick » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:36 am

Mandi wrote:Hello Dean,

After seeing your photo posted I am feeling pretty confident that you aren't really an ogre or some kind of freakish monster. You look very human, and to me that translates into "decent and reasonable". So, I am going out on a limb here, knowing I am not a favorite of yours, and knowing that I risk embarressment and humiliation.

I don't post very much, and when I do my posts lack the expertise and musical insight that most of the other posters here display. I am not a Journey expert. I am only someone who happened to catch a Journey concert in 1998, and fell instantly in love with the music, the band, and yes dare I say it, the lead singer. I became a die-hard Augeri fan, and a Journey fan all at once. I bought every single cd of theirs they have ever made, every one. I was a casual fan, I liked Steve Perry's voice, but that was it. That changed for me in 98.

Why am I boring you with this? OK, I will get to the reason for this letter.

I hated you at first, (sorry, I know that is a very strong word) for what you claimed about Steve Augeri. I resented your obvious gift for getting your point across and making people feel belittled. I read every thing you posted. Everything. Then I began to doubt. Not you, but the band. And your claims began making sense, and I hated you for that as well.

I was there at the first show of the tour, in Camden. It was one of at least two dozen concerts I attended since 98. I could tell something was wrong with the band. They were mechanical, unsmiling, lacked energy and it was easy for a die-hard fan to see that something was very wrong. I was also at Mohegan Sun a few days later. Things were a little better, but Steve could hardly sing, could barely speak. The sound was clearly rigged to drown out the vocals. I thought about you. I thought about everything you had claimed so vehemently. You were relentless in your claims of taped vocals, and sure enough in Raleigh, everything you said fell into place. I thought about you alot during that time. I thought about one concert back in 2005, where I was in the second row, and how for one fleeting moment it seemed like Steve wasn't really singing. I thought about how I pushed that out of my mind, and soon forgot all about it. Until you brought up "tapegate". And I started to see you in a very different light.

Have you ever had your heart broken, Dean? I would guess you have. Well, it sounds stupid to most, but I was heartbroken over what happened to Steve Augeri and to Journey. Everything you said came true. You were right all along. I now believe it. I know you are thinking "big deal". But I just wanted to let you know that I have a new respect for you. I think you were heartbroken over Journey, too. And you got angry and you did something about it. That is something many people wouldn't do and I have to admire and respect you for having such deep convictions. You are a man of character, and a truthful one. Very colorful at times, but still truthful.

I don't ever agree with the Augeri bashing you do, however. And I will never change my mind about Mr. Augeri's contributions to the band. I am grateful for what he gave us, I continue to love his work on Arrival and Generations. I still like him, just not so much, if you know what I mean. I guess I am disappointed. And I don't hate you anymore. In fact, I have enormous respect for your courage, and conviction to do what you did. To believe in something so strongly and to stand up for that belief is something I wish I had more of in myself. Maybe we could all use a little more of that quality.

And now, Journey has JSS! Thank you, Dean. You stuck to your guns. I would ask you to go a little easier on Steve Augeri once in awhile but I don't want to incurr your wrath! I have a million questions, but I won't ask. I will just wait and see what happens next. I was not going to post this publicly, because I don't want to start this debate all over again. We have all had enough of that, and should leave it in the past. We have the future to look forward to, and it is looking very bright for Journey fans.

I am so sorry to everyone that this is so long. I just felt I needed to say it. Thank you Dean, for reading.

Regards,
Mandi


Hey Mandi,

Just wanted to jump in here to say "Bravo" 8)

Great job; very well thought out.
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a letter to Deano

Postby Mandi » Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:17 am

Awwww, thank you for the kind words, folks!! :) :oops:


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