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Postby Lula » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:14 am

Moose wrote:
Lula wrote:What are you, a copy cat or somethin'?


right......that's it. :roll:

I know you have a vested interest, so why would you ask that?


:?:


I was making reference to the " :shock: ".... my feeble attempt at humor.
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Postby Moose » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:18 am

Lula wrote:
Moose wrote:
Lula wrote:What are you, a copy cat or somethin'?


right......that's it. :roll:

I know you have a vested interest, so why would you ask that?


:?:


I was making reference to the " :shock: ".... my feeble attempt at humor.


OK...I was actually saying, "right back at ya!"
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Postby Lula » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:28 am

All this went soaring over my head, Moose. I'll blame the cold medicine :lol: :?
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Postby Moose » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:32 am

Lula wrote:All this went soaring over my head, Moose. I'll blame the cold medicine :lol: :?


That's cool...I'm telling you, the Blackberry Brandy does wonders for me when I am 'illin
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Postby Aaron » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:45 am

Folks,

You've riled me up and I've had enough. Any fucker on this board that thinks Hugo doesn't' blow Journey away in writing talent or vocal talent is a non-hearing, tone-deaf, no music playing bastard. Hugo has more writing talent and vocal skills talent in the end of his dick than Journey has had since 86. Trial By Fire fuckin sucked. It was an adult contemporary gay record with shite on it besides one decent ballad (WYLAW). I was pissed when I heard that cd for the first 10 times. It was shite. Augi did a good job on Arrival. Generations was a friggin hodge podge of vocal bullshit. Red13 sucked. Valentine was every bit as good as Escape in song writing, music and vocal capability. If any of Hugo's shit would have been released under the "Journey" brand it would have outsold anything since ROR. Adam Holland is an excellent guitarist and can hold his own with about anyone. He has a different style than Schon but I'd argue his power chord playing ass rocks harder.

JSS has improved tremendously in the last few months in the live environment. After several months, he is capable of doing a reasonable job of covering the classic Journey material. He was given a lot of praise here when he was still singing like shit on classic Journey and I have no time for that. However, Hugo has demonstrated his ability to write, sing and deliver music as good as Journey has ever produced. Hugo has taken a shit rap for looking to much like Perry. WHO GIVES A FUCK! The dude can write, sing and deliver hard rockin, kick ass material.

Neil Schon, pull your head out of your ass, color Hugo's hair blond, write a new record that actually rocks (like you've been blowing shit about for 10 fuckin years), and then go out there and take over the rock and roll world.

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Postby Aaron » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:49 am

Dude,

Let me hear what you or your 4 year old son can deliver in a song. I'm all ears. Try "You'll Always Have Me" as a reference and let me know how you come out. My guess is you've not heard one fucking song Hugo has written or performed.

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yogi wrote:Cause his songs suck.

My four year old son could write as well, and my seven year old daughter could write better!!!!

His voice is great, but not his music.
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Postby Aaron » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:52 am

Liz,

Hugo writes his own stuff (except for the Avalon and Street Talk stuff). Anyone that has listened to Valentine can understand that he doesn't need any writing help at all. If not, they are just musically incompetent. You've got your head and ears on straight.

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frostbite wrote:Have to agree. The voice is there but the songs are like incidental music from an episode of Miami Vice. Shite.


Gee, this is turning into a slashfest! Maybe its because he only had about $900 behind him for the writing talents compared to someone like Journey who has $9 million.... :shock: j/k, I have absolutely no facts to back up anything I say on this board......but I still love Hugo....
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Postby Behshad » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:07 am

JrnyScarab wrote:I've only heard the 1:30 clip of "Shed a tear goodbye" from Talisman 7 and I gotta say -- This is about as melodic a song as Journey has ever done. Instantly catchy. If this is what Journey will sound like with Jeff I'm not gonna miss Perry or Augeri very much.


As much as I would like the New Journey to sound like Talisman, I'm affraid it wont,,,, the Talisman magic is the combination of Jeff's voice and Marcel's songwriting.
Without Marcel, Talisman wouldnt exist!
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Postby JrnyScarab » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:25 am

Behshad wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:I've only heard the 1:30 clip of "Shed a tear goodbye" from Talisman 7 and I gotta say -- This is about as melodic a song as Journey has ever done. Instantly catchy. If this is what Journey will sound like with Jeff I'm not gonna miss Perry or Augeri very much.


As much as I would like the New Journey to sound like Talisman, I'm affraid it wont,,,, the Talisman magic is the combination of Jeff's voice and Marcel's songwriting.
Without Marcel, Talisman wouldnt exist!


Yes, I must give Marcel his due. But, Jeff has the ability to sing some very melodic lines regardless of who is songwriting. I think Neal & John + Jeff will be the equal of Talisman as far as good writing goes.
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Postby JrnyScarab » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:28 am

Behshad wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:I've only heard the 1:30 clip of "Shed a tear goodbye" from Talisman 7 and I gotta say -- This is about as melodic a song as Journey has ever done. Instantly catchy. If this is what Journey will sound like with Jeff I'm not gonna miss Perry or Augeri very much.


As much as I would like the New Journey to sound like Talisman, I'm affraid it wont,,,, the Talisman magic is the combination of Jeff's voice and Marcel's songwriting.
Without Marcel, Talisman wouldnt exist!


Yes, I must give Marcel his due. But, Jeff has the ability to sing some very melodic lines regardless of who is songwriting. I think Neal & John + Jeff will be the equal of Talisman as far as good writing goes.
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Postby RPM » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:29 am

"Any fucker on this board that thinks Hugo doesn't' blow Journey away in writing talent or vocal talent is a non-hearing, tone-deaf, no music playing bastard"

Hey I resemble that remark.........
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Postby Aaron » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:32 am

Sorry to hear that about you bro :wink: .... have you tried hearing aids yet?:lol:


RPM wrote:"Any fucker on this board that thinks Hugo doesn't' blow Journey away in writing talent or vocal talent is a non-hearing, tone-deaf, no music playing bastard"

Hey I resemble that remark.........
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Postby Behshad » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:34 am

JrnyScarab wrote:
Behshad wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:I've only heard the 1:30 clip of "Shed a tear goodbye" from Talisman 7 and I gotta say -- This is about as melodic a song as Journey has ever done. Instantly catchy. If this is what Journey will sound like with Jeff I'm not gonna miss Perry or Augeri very much.


As much as I would like the New Journey to sound like Talisman, I'm affraid it wont,,,, the Talisman magic is the combination of Jeff's voice and Marcel's songwriting.
Without Marcel, Talisman wouldnt exist!


Yes, I must give Marcel his due. But, Jeff has the ability to sing some very melodic lines regardless of who is songwriting. I think Neal & John + Jeff will be the equal of Talisman as far as good writing goes.


I woud have to disagree,,,, I think Neal,John and Jeff would sound more like Soul Sirkus than Talisman,,,,
Its totally different when the BASS PLAYER writes the songs,,,, Listen to Talisman's "Outta My Way" and you will hear what I mean :)
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Postby JrnyScarab » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:36 am

Behshad wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:
Behshad wrote:
JrnyScarab wrote:I've only heard the 1:30 clip of "Shed a tear goodbye" from Talisman 7 and I gotta say -- This is about as melodic a song as Journey has ever done. Instantly catchy. If this is what Journey will sound like with Jeff I'm not gonna miss Perry or Augeri very much.


As much as I would like the New Journey to sound like Talisman, I'm affraid it wont,,,, the Talisman magic is the combination of Jeff's voice and Marcel's songwriting.
Without Marcel, Talisman wouldnt exist!


Yes, I must give Marcel his due. But, Jeff has the ability to sing some very melodic lines regardless of who is songwriting. I think Neal & John + Jeff will be the equal of Talisman as far as good writing goes.


I woud have to disagree,,,, I think Neal,John and Jeff would sound more like Soul Sirkus than Talisman,,,,
Its totally different when the BASS PLAYER writes the songs,,,, Listen to Talisman's "Outta My Way" and you will hear what I mean :)


I see what you are saying. The melody flows through the bass lines. Much like Geddy Lee.
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Postby Aaron » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:52 am

Alright Lula, what's your favorite style of Journey music. Pick you favorite Journey song, let me know, I'll pick a Hugo song and send it to you, and if you don't like it, I won't bother you any more.

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Lula wrote:As for Hugo.... not a fan.
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Postby yulog » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:37 am

C'mon nobody wants journey to sound like talisman -they're having enough trouble gettin air play as it is journey will crash and burn if they go that route unless they all move to europe. you guys need to cut back on that stuff your smokin

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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:38 am

There's a reason Neal, spelled with a fucking e and a, not an i and e, plays on a stage in front of 15 thousand and Hugo plays Bob's country Diners.

Fuck Hugo. Literally. Anyone who NEEDS to emulate another, is simply paying homage to THAT individual (in this case perry) and the music (Journey).

Fuck ANYONE here who doesn't think Neal fucking Schon and Jeff Scott Fucking Soto have serious writing skills and oh yeah, throw THE FRIG into the mix and there isn't any band out there that can write like those guys.

Let's get it on tonight.

I am the asshole that went to great measures to affect change, change happened, for the better, and here we are, and a few piss fucks (froy, Ms Monker and Bambi) are all c*unts....while the same old Loons are still bloody snatched bitches, now bitch about said change.

You fuckers can all just hop the fence and go cheer on Styx.

You all want to take me on tonight, bring it.
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:48 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:There's a reason Neal, spelled with a fucking e and a, not an i and e, plays on a stage in front of 15 thousand and Hugo plays Bob's country Diners.

Fuck Hugo. Literally. Anyone who NEEDS to emulate another, is simply paying homage to THAT individual (in this case perry) and the music (Journey).

Fuck ANYONE here who doesn't think Neal fucking Schon and Jeff Scott Fucking Soto have serious writing skills and oh yeah, throw THE FRIG into the mix and there isn't any band out there that can write like those guys.

Let's get it on tonight.

I am the asshole that went to great measures to affect change, change happened, for the better, and here we are, and a few piss fucks (froy, Ms Monker and Bambi) are all c*unts....while the same old Loons are still bloody snatched bitches, now bitch about said change.

You fuckers can all just hop the fence and go cheer on Styx.

You all want to take me on tonight, bring it.


Fuck, man! This is way better than any TV. Except tonite I'm just gonna watch. I might participate. Hmmm.. But still, this is WAY better than anything on TV! :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:51 am

Hey dude,

Since getting Sirius, I have found a new, sharper edge. I like it quite a bit.


I am having a harder and harder time dealing with shitbags like Bambi, Dick(Nancy), froy, HOTS, and some other shit worthy "people." Fuck em. They think they can roll ass in here when I am NOT here, is one thing, but when I am here, it's a different game.
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:53 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:Hey dude,

Since getting Sirius, I have found a new, sharper edge. I like it quite a bit.


I am having a harder and harder time dealing with shitbags like Bambi, Dick(Nancy), froy, HOTS, and some other shit worthy "people." Fuck em. They think they can roll ass in here when I am NOT here, is one thing, but when I am here, it's a different game.


Dude, you're being way too Sirius! LOL
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Postby Aaron » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:28 am

Thanks for your input spell check. What has Neal, JSS and your boy Friga delivered. I can tell you, fuck all, nothing. Individually they have done things well on their own. Collectively they haven't delivered shit so fuck off. They have demonstrated nothing as a team, nothing. They have attempted to cover Journey music from 20 fuckin years ago. What has Journey delivered since 86, again, shite. Hugo takes a bad wrap for sounding like Perry. Big fuckin deal. Hugo has demonstrated the ability to write, sing and deliver rock. Neal could take lessons from Valentine on how to rock. I've heard his "lets rock" bullshit for too many decades. He needs to deliver for once in a row. My guess is you don't own one fuckin record from Hugo. If you don't, then you're input isn't credible. So what Hugo music do you own Deano? Again, show me what Schon, Friga and Soto have delivered as a writing team. Again, nothing. Fuck, with help from Schon and Friga who isn't going to be a writing genius. Again, no credibility.

Lets get it on.

P.S. The new avatar sucks. Howard is an arrogant fuck head.

P.S.S. Its Bob's Country Bunker



Rockin'Deano wrote:There's a reason Neal, spelled with a fucking e and a, not an i and e, plays on a stage in front of 15 thousand and Hugo plays Bob's country Diners.

Fuck Hugo. Literally. Anyone who NEEDS to emulate another, is simply paying homage to THAT individual (in this case perry) and the music (Journey).

Fuck ANYONE here who doesn't think Neal fucking Schon and Jeff Scott Fucking Soto have serious writing skills and oh yeah, throw THE FRIG into the mix and there isn't any band out there that can write like those guys.

Let's get it on tonight.

And fuck Styx too.

I am the asshole that went to great measures to affect change, change happened, for the better, and here we are, and a few piss fucks (froy, Ms Monker and Bambi) are all c*unts....while the same old Loons are still bloody snatched bitches, now bitch about said change.

You fuckers can all just hop the fence and go cheer on Styx.

You all want to take me on tonight, bring it.
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Postby Crazie Scarab » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:31 am

Aaron wrote:Howard is an arrogant fuck head.


Here we go! :lol:
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Postby donnaplease » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:34 am

This should be good...
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:57 am

Aaron wrote:Thanks for your input spell check. What has Neal, JSS and your boy Friga delivered. I can tell you, fuck all, nothing.



I can't quite hear you with Hugos' cock in your mouth.

You are telling me a fucking soundalike,m a tribute dude, can rival what Schon and Friga have accomplished? Dude, you need to check yourself.


Individually they have done things well on their own. Collectively they haven't delivered shit so fuck off. They have demonstrated nothing as a team, nothing.


Well, while not my favouritres, Arrival and Generations are better than anything Hugo has turned out and don't give me Valentine either. I listened to that flop of shit and determined it as just that, shit.

I've heard his "lets rock" bullshit for too many decades. He needs to deliver for once in a row.


You're right, Neal Schon sucks. We should ask him to leave and stick fuckin NIG in there to play out the string.

My guess is you don't own one fuckin record from Hugo.


I used to. Nothing grabbed me. If I want to hear Perry, I will hear Perry, not a Perry soundalike.


If you don't, then you're input isn't credible.


My input is always credible. I never argue if I don't think I'm right. You doubted me about Lipping and then Soto, and I proved myself correct both times. Fuck you Aaron.

Again, show me what Schon, Friga and Soto have delivered as a writing team.


Well, The Soul Sirkus CD was pretty fuckin astounding.

Fuck, with help from Schon and Friga who isn't going to be a writing genius.


Congratulations, you just contradicted yourself.

Again, no crediblity
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You're right. You have none.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:59 am

And secondly, you stupid smelly ass burglar.

Stern has scoreboard. Anyone who doesn't respect what he has accomplished is just a sore assed loser, or a red state conservative. Sorry that you have to live in that shithole called Indiana.
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Postby Lula » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:23 pm

Aaron wrote:Alright Lula, what's your favorite style of Journey music. Pick you favorite Journey song, let me know, I'll pick a Hugo song and send it to you, and if you don't like it, I won't bother you any more.

Cheers,

Aaron

Lula wrote:As for Hugo.... not a fan.


I'll give you a few-

Feeling That Way/Anytime
Where Were You
Stay Awhile
Escape

Send a rocker and a slow one ;) I promise to listen with an open mind.
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Postby SteveForever » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:52 pm

There are so many vocalists that have that Perry soundalike, but if you like that style then you want MORE and I guess that's why so many Perry fans are still holding out for him to release some new stuff. The bands have to be flattered when people emulate them, but then again some people can't deny the way they naturally sound, like Augeri or Hugo. I love hearing JSS sing Queen, doesn't take away from Mercury, its just more of a good thing. 8)
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Postby Aaron » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:58 pm

Dude, don't be using my own line against me. At least come up with something original. And you're coming into it, you can still speak well with JSS's dick in your mouth.

Rockin'Deano wrote:I can't quite hear you with Hugos' cock in your mouth.


If you'd have a look, Hugo has written five excellent cd's. Tribute band or not, you can't take that away from him. What has Journey delivered in the same time frame? Nothing. They've delivered fuck all since '86. Mac even said Hugo's self titled release is what Journey wished Trial By Fire release should have been. You're right, he hasn't accomplished shit. :roll:

Rockin'Deano wrote:You are telling me a fucking soundalike,m a tribute dude, can rival what Schon and Friga have accomplished? Dude, you need to check yourself.


Really, I thought Augeri was a piece of shit in your opinion and didn't deliver anything during his tenure in Journey. I agree with you, I like Arrival and Generations is ok. The material doesn't rock as hard compared to anything prior to '86. I'll put Hugo's stuff up against Arrival or Generations. I liked Generations but give me a fuckin break. AOR its not. How can you have a good AOR record with multiple singers?
Rockin'Deano wrote:Well, while not my favouritres, Arrival and Generations are better than anything Hugo has turned out and don't give me Valentine either. I listened to that flop of shit and determined it as just that, shit.


I never said Schon sucks. Schon is a great talent. Neal has been blowing bullshit about wanting to rock with his music for 10 years. He hasn't delivered a good rock record since ROR and arguably Frontiers.
Rockin'Deano wrote:You're right, Neal Schon sucks. We should ask him to leave and stick fuckin NIG in there to play out the string.


Your input is always credible in your own mind. You were 100% against JSS in Journey as their singer, then got free tickets, backstage passes and a BJ, and then you're his biggest fucking fan. I seen them live in Indy and they sucked. I heard the boots from Hollywood and said they were a lot better based on data, not free bullshit and getting my dick sucked. I belly up when the data changes, you don't. So who is credible? Fuck you dude.
Rockin'Deano wrote:My input is always credible. I never argue if I don't think I'm right. You doubted me about Lipping and then Soto, and I proved myself correct both times. Fuck you Aaron.


So if Soul SirkUS was so great, why did they not have multiple #1 singles, a huge tour and another record? I know, management held them back, right. Why was Schon bitching in print about how much cash he lost (300K USD) on the Soul SirkUS deal? He was pretty much a prick about it and JSS even was pissed about Schon's response. I guess the cash speaks louder than the way your treated. If Soul SirkUS was so fucking great, why is JSS in Journey? Wouldn't Soul SirkUS be out own their own?
Rockin'Deano wrote:Well, The Soul Sirkus CD was pretty fuckin astounding.


How do you figure dude? Schon and Friga have delivered excellent written music. Name one song Schon, Friga and JSS have written and delivered. I know, there isn't one. Name one song the Schon and JSS have written that 1 in 100 people off the street would know. Again, none.
Rockin'Deano wrote:Congratulations, you just contradicted yourself.


Opinions vary on who has credibility dude. You never heard me busting your balls about the tape gate deal. You never heard me say it wasn't true or your data wasn't real. I didn't like it but the data was the data. I agree with a lot of what you have to say and I really enjoy reading your stuff. Its good entertainment. However, when you switched your opinion of the current Journey line-up based on free tickets and personal attention from the band, your credibility went in the tank. Only until the Hollywood show did JSS remotely do a reasonable job covering the classics.
Rockin'Deano wrote:You're right. You have none.


The bottom line, what song has Journey covered during the last tour that is not 20 years old or older? None, yea? Then who is really the cover band? I'd much rather listen to Evolution cover Journey's 20 year old material than their current line-up. Who is really the cover band?

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Postby Aaron » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:08 pm

Stern is a dick dude. Anyone that makes fun of people who are less fortunate than him is a dick. I have no respect for anyone who publicly makes fun of handicapped people. I have a mentally challenged sister and I don't find it humorous.

Indiana may suck but at least we have a fuckin American running the show here, not an Austrian actor. Have a look at how long Stern was on the air in Indianapolis when going head to head with Bob and Tom. Stern publicly bashed Bob and Tom saying he would put them out of business. Stern lasted less than 6 months in Indy before he was canceled. Bob and Tom took the high road and as usual, Stern took the low road.

Rockin'Deano wrote:And secondly, you stupid smelly ass burglar.

Stern has scoreboard. Anyone who doesn't respect what he has accomplished is just a sore assed loser, or a red state conservative. Sorry that you have to live in that shithole called Indiana.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:08 pm

Total speculation on your part.

Free tix, backstage passes and blow jobs huh? THAT changed my opinion?

No. Giving Soto a chance. I blew his ass up based on the 2nd show he ever did. That was stupidity on my part.

Hey, we are moving on, and I guess you don't want to come.

I can refute each and every point you tried to make, but you would just go to the free tix, backstage passes and blow job card again.

Being backstage is cool and all, but now when I see those guys, it's no big deal. I see them in a very different light now.
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