JSS comment on BT made me laugh

[Moon Beam]

Awwwwwwwwwwww moonbeam! I treasure your opinion so.

That's the best you can do?

You must have realized that I owned your ass there.

[heardonthestreet]

Thank you for that favor, granny. I wouldn't know what to say to you anyway.

[Moon Beam]

Thanks Moon for setting HOTS straight...I refuse to anwser her/it/his posts...they are always so negative...G

I'm a SAHM and don't get out to the big world often.
She entertains me.

[ArnelRox]

Perry has more class than that, Nig

Jr, who the hell wants to hear from him when it's just to bitch about some perceived slight and to get a dig in to compare himself to Perry. It's always about something someone said about him. You all enjoy it and let me voice my opinion. It has nothing at all to do with wanting a response from him.

I like hearing from Jeff. I like the fact that he interacts w/us, shares things about himself, how he became a singer, his career, his influences, stands up for himself when someone says something wrong & even laughs at himself sometimes. That is what really endeared me to the guy. It's also what made me understand why his fans are so damn loyal to him.

Perry had class. Jeff has class too. Perry was not afraid to swear & have fun. Here's a great example that cracks me up every time I listen to it:

http://download.yousendit.com/E15D977711AA98D2

[Gaffguitars]

JSS
THP

Posts: 225
From: LA, CA
Registered: Jun 2004 posted November 25, 2006 09:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by shoot_em_up:
The interview was great, but as far as JSS, while he is a definite talent, it's LIKE Journey, but one octave lower. Doesn't fit my taste as far as Journey is concerned. I don't want to say anything bad about Jeff Scott Soto, just can't say anything bad, he's a good person, and a definite talent, but for me doesn't fit exactly.


FYI, an octave, if you're not musically inclined, is 12 WHOLE steps below or above it's original note. If it were an octave below, it would sound like Bowzer from Sha Na Na singing....come on now, a tad extreme, no?

OK I deleted the last post because it was slighlty incorrect. An octave is 8 notes or 12 whole steps from the root note. If Steve Perry is singing a high E, you can technically sing an octave lower and not sound like Bowser from Sha Na Na. I've worked with singers who do that all the time. It doesn't sound "the same" but at least it's in key. I think Steve Perry himself had to do it. Plus if the guitars are tuned down a half step, or in some cases a whole step (doubtful with Journey) it would make it easier as well. As far as Soto. I haven't heard him with Journey but saw him with Yngwie years ago and Soul Sirkus a couple years ago. He should have no problem nailing every note.

[Melissa]

I'm one of those loyal fans, & it's awesome to see others realize why now too!

[fred_journeyman]

I think he's just new to the volatile nature of Journey messageboarda Fred. He handles himself very well on them but he doesn't realize how his words are going to be dissected and analyzed and misconstrued by us.

That's true, Sherrie. What people say is dissected to the nth degree. Hey, by the way, when did you become Italian? ("messageboarda") You know I'm just bustin' you...

I think the word "thin" was a bad choice, but I don't think he meant it as an insult. There was never anything "thin" about Perry's voice. In fact there are very few men larger in stature that could sing like Perry does. Jeff was in a situation where he felt he had to respond and those were just the words that came out. You of all people have to realize that I'd be all over him if I thought he was dissing Perry.

That's why I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Even though he used the word "thin," he can't be using it in a negative way toward Perry, based on what he has said about our favorite crooner previously.

[ArnelRox]

That's true, Sherrie. What people say is dissected to the nth degree.

U know u are a rockstar when people on a message board dissect ur every word & ponder on its meaning & placement in a sentence

[ForceInfinity]

JSS does have a point in the thinness vs bellowing bit. It's like comparing Steve Perry's tenor to the so-called "3 Tenors"...opera singers who've no matter how high I've heard them sing, they sound lower pitched to my ear than Steve Perry, and in actuality, they are likely hitting the same notes Perry did. The difference is that yes Steve's voice is thinner than theres, and that's not a slight. It just happens to be the tonal quality coming off that voice is all.

When I read that, I never once took it as a slight against Perry. It really boils down to style of the singer and as another poster pointed out, the physicality of it all.

On another note, JSS can speak whenever he wants. If we're allowed to say shit about him, he should have a right to say shit back. If some people hate that he speaks up, then get over it and stop your bitchin. It seems like that's about all some people know how to do. They bitch about a guys singing, and then bitch when the target speaks out correcting a misstatement. Makes me think that people like that have nothing better to do than bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch.

Get over it already. JSS is the singer and Perry isn't. JSS does his thing. Perry does his own thing. The way I see it is if Journey records and Perry records, then that's all the much better for me as I'm a fan of both.

[Melissa]

Yep, I don't quite understand why the people who have posted not-so-nice things about Jeff here or on BT get all shocked when he responds to them.

Consider yourselves lucky, I'm a huge fan of his & would LOVE that. I don't know of any other artists who would do that.

[JSS]

Fuller, as in louder or shouting and bellowed as in full of hot air.

Fuller as in your big fucking head, bellowed as in your dumbass opinion...suck ass!!! Oh...& have a nice day dickhead

[Natalie]

Fuller, as in louder or shouting and bellowed as in full of hot air.

Fuller as in your big fucking head, bellowed as in your dumbass opinion...suck ass!!! Oh...& have a nice day dickhead

Hey JSS, don't hold back Sweetie, tell us what you really feel.

[JSS]

Good for Jeff. He doesn't let them talk shit about which they know nothing about.

I'm not sure I liked him calling Perry's voice "thinner" tho. But I don't think he meant anything bad by that.

What is the correct term for the difference they're actually noticing in Jeff's voice? Deeper timbre? Is that right?

I meant thinner only as in thinner than mine, his voice was plenty full & rich but if didn't have that Hagar/Gramm thickness on the more rocking stuff...still, not a diss on the Master, just in comparison...loved his tone as much as the next person!!

[Clasicrockldy]

Great responses, Jeff !

[ArnelRox]

Good for Jeff. He doesn't let them talk shit about which they know nothing about.

I'm not sure I liked him calling Perry's voice "thinner" tho. But I don't think he meant anything bad by that.

What is the correct term for the difference they're actually noticing in Jeff's voice? Deeper timbre? Is that right?

I meant thinner only as in thinner than mine, his voice was plenty full & rich but if didn't have that Hagar/Gramm thickness on the more rocking stuff...still, not a diss on the Master, just in comparison...loved his tone as much as the next person!!

Thanks Jeff. I knew u weren't dissing him.

[JSS]

Some of you may be calling it "not taking any shit" but I'd say it was more like complaining whiningly, imo.

Just because someone says that they are kidding or not dissing, does not mean it's to be taken as such. All the guys in the band have been criticized but you don't see them heading out, protesting and being defensive. His jabs about blatantly stealing style, who would hit the high notes if he and Perry were on stage and this "thin shit" sucks. He wouldn't even have had to state that he wasn't dissing Perry if he didn't already think that he was.

Sometimes you have to paint the whole picture as dumbasses (you for one who I'm just sick of reading your fucking whining!!) who take a comment & repaint it red!!! If I detail what I mean in a comment, it's so it's NOT taken wrongly...think about it....oh, sorry nevermind!!

Now criticism I can take, yo can downright say I suck...but if you're saying I sing songs an octave lower you're either using the wrong terminology or are simply deaf...that IS educating, teaching someone what the proper terms were.

Lastly, since I MUST explain every fucking word since you always read between the lines when there are no lines to read between, I am NOT nor would I EVER compare myself to Perry, he is in a class of his own, one I respect beyond most in this godforesaken business, but we are 2 different people, I'm no clone of his, he is not one of me, again, EDUCATION in noting what the differnces are between us.

Don't be a jerkoff & look for scandal where there aint none....& no, I aint trying to get everyone to back me & laugh at your ass because I DO defend myself when someone makes silly references, if this happens it's because you simply are making a jackass of yourself by unnecessarily trying to gain attention on here...I've come to look past your annoying negativities but I have no qualms about telling someone who'll never approve of me anyway that I too don't approve of you.

[larryfromnextdoor]

wow!! j double tells it like it is... love that cat!!!

[Granny]

Fuller, as in louder or shouting and bellowed as in full of hot air.

Fuller as in your big fucking head, bellowed as in your dumbass opinion...suck ass!!! Oh...& have a nice day dickhead

LOVED IT... Couldn't have said that to a "nicer Person"...Granny

[Liam]

wow!!

That's what I'm sayin', dude. He just tore into her. He's just pissed about the Steelers. J/K Jeff.

[JSS]

Whoops...thanks for that, i stand corrected....I wasn't thinking, you're absolutely right!!!

I should have said 12 'half steps' not whole....it is 8 whole steps between octaves.

But the Bowzer reference was not about the high notes, just songs overall....try singing Wheel In The Sky or I'll Be Alright an octave lower....ha ha, sounds like Barry White!!

Thanks for theory correction tho'

JSS
THP

Posts: 225
From: LA, CA
Registered: Jun 2004 posted November 25, 2006 09:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by shoot_em_up:
The interview was great, but as far as JSS, while he is a definite talent, it's LIKE Journey, but one octave lower. Doesn't fit my taste as far as Journey is concerned. I don't want to say anything bad about Jeff Scott Soto, just can't say anything bad, he's a good person, and a definite talent, but for me doesn't fit exactly.


FYI, an octave, if you're not musically inclined, is 12 WHOLE steps below or above it's original note. If it were an octave below, it would sound like Bowzer from Sha Na Na singing....come on now, a tad extreme, no?

OK I deleted the last post because it was slighlty incorrect. An octave is 8 notes or 12 whole steps from the root note. If Steve Perry is singing a high E, you can technically sing an octave lower and not sound like Bowser from Sha Na Na. I've worked with singers who do that all the time. It doesn't sound "the same" but at least it's in key. I think Steve Perry himself had to do it. Plus if the guitars are tuned down a half step, or in some cases a whole step (doubtful with Journey) it would make it easier as well. As far as Soto. I haven't heard him with Journey but saw him with Yngwie years ago and Soul Sirkus a couple years ago. He should have no problem nailing every note.

[Clasicrockldy]

Great response once again. Jeff, I just have to say that I like seeing the down to earthness you project. Thanks for being who you are. I love it !

[Red13JoePa]

He wouldn't even have had to state that he wasn't dissing Perry if he didn't already think that he was.

Ah HA.

So this is what your annoyance with JSS' post is really about, a (by you) perceived shot at perry.
Not really his point, or his delivery.
Thin skinned about this stuff aren't you?

[Clasicrockldy]

He wouldn't even have had to state that he wasn't dissing Perry if he didn't already think that he was.

Ah HA.

So this is what your annoyance with JSS' post is really about, a (by you) perceived shot at perry.
Not really his point, or his delivery.
Thin skinned about this stuff aren't you?

Too damn thin skinned, 13. lmao

[Red13JoePa]

Perry has more class than that, Nig

Class like calling SA "a soundalike or whatever is" when "class"illy responding to a question for reaction about Augeri's dedication of Red13 to him?

[Clasicrockldy]

Perry has more class than that, Nig

Class like calling SA "a soundalike or whatever is" when "class"illy responding to a question for reaction about Augeri's dedication of Red13 to him?

HOTS will possibly come back and say Perry didn't say it, 13.

Whatever....

[Red13JoePa]

In Steve Perry's defense he did shake hands and converse, however briefly, w/ Augeri at the WOF.
Wasn't a creep that day, by all accounts, and should be said.

[JSS]

NOW I'M REALLY FUCKING GIGGLING!!!

Fuller, as in louder or shouting and bellowed as in full of hot air.

Fuller as in your big fucking head, bellowed as in your dumbass opinion...suck ass!!! Oh...& have a nice day dickhead

I am always here to correct you Jeff. Dickhead? Heardonthestreet is a bitch. .

[Clasicrockldy]

Too funny, Deano !

[Clasicrockldy]

Hey Deano, maybe you can be a lyricist, or what they are called who writes the words for songs ! Damn, I would buy a song written by Deano...........

[ArnelRox]

NOW I'M REALLY FUCKING GIGGLING!!!

Classy

Oh come on Red, she drove him to it w/all the crap she says about him.